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Posted 13 August 2008 10:59   (Post #51755)


 

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Dear all,

Shall you come to Geneva to work for some years, which would the best Bank institution and what kind of bank account to make your money grow.

Is it true that in Switzerland you are always charged when taking money from a bankomat?

Wisdom from all of you is welcomed, as this is an important topic for all of us

Cheers,
Hugo

Posted 19 August 2008 10:31   (Post #52108)


 

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Hi there,

Just about to move to Zurich.. wondering if you ever found out and can now share your wisdom :o)

cheers,

Billie 


Posted 19 August 2008 19:55   (Post #52144)


 

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Hugo, Sparkles,

Here's the bit I know:

1. Most expats (but far from all) use UBS, for several reasons:

  • There's UBS branches all over CH
  • They are well known from other countries
  • All branches speak English
  • Their rates are competetive vs other banks.

2. It does not cost money to withdraw money from a banco-mat, if you draw money from your own bank. IE, if you have an account with UBS, and you withdraw money from a UBS bancomat, you won't pay a fee. But if you have a UBS account, and you withdraw money from a Bankomat of another bank, you'll pay a fee.

3. Opening a Swiss bank account - assuming you have a local work permit - is not difficult. Here's a list of all UBS bank branches & contact details in CH: any branch can give you more info.

4. Interest rates are low in CH, so you won't make much on your money. Typical rates for current accounts are under 1%, and for saving accounts 1-2%.  

Hope this helps, pls let me know if you need more info.

Nir


Posted 19 August 2008 20:39   (Post #52152)


 

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and UBS e-banking is excellent. If you do alot of transfers its worth if for that alone.

Posted 19 August 2008 20:50   (Post #52156)


 

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i started with migros bank, because their rates are a lower then ubs. but their e-banking just sucks. and i means sucks. i now have one checking account with them, and one with ubs. I use the ubs one for most things, and for ebanking i use only ubs. if you don't need ebanking, and you don't need real banking advise in english, migros bank will do. if you do need ebanking, and need some english advice, ubs is the way to go.

Posted 20 August 2008 11:51   (Post #52184)


 

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Fully agree about UBS's ebanking: it's really good.

Posted 20 August 2008 12:37   (Post #52192)


 

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I remember when getting my ATM card from UBS that they told me I could withdraw from any ATM in Switzerland regardless of which bank it belonged to without getting charged extra for it? Am I mistaken or is it just a perk of the plan I signed up with?

Posted 20 August 2008 16:38   (Post #52235)


 

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Hi Hugo + Billie ... and welcome to glocals & CH!

for all of the advantages mentioned above by Nir and others, i would also recommend credit suisse (cs). they are number 2 in switzerland but maybe operate still more like a smaller bank than ubs (i.e. more personalized

and their ebanking is excellent too!

perhaps another point to consider, are the staggering losses racked up by the global banks this year (see below table..). as of 29.july.08 ubs was at $37bn vs. $6bn at cs.

Hugo, if you want to grow your money.. don't put it in saving accounts that can be less than inflation (some as low as 0.5%), but rather look at something like a mutual fund, which is already a diversified portfolio.

When making your decision.. be sure to study past performance (although no guarantee of future results, it is a good indicator), management stability, buy, sell and management fees, and high-interest beaing bonds included as a percentage of the portfolio.
Ideally, you want to be able to add to this investment monthly without fees. High-growth areas might be emerging markets and / or real estate (this area has fallen enormously so.. for savvy investors there are many bargains around < esp. in the us with the credit cruntch and the weak dollar> that can be negotiated even lower..

good luck and all the best!

Acquarius


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Write-downs of largest banks reach $274bn

* Julia Kollewe
* guardian.co.uk,
* Tuesday July 29 2008 14:01 BST


Alliance & Leicester, which last month agreed to a £1.26bn takeover by Spain's Santander, has seen its first-half profits almost wiped out by the credit crunch. It took a £209m hit from losses on investments and asset write-downs, and suffered soaring funding costs in the wholesale money markets.

Earlier this week Wall Street bank Merrill Lynch shocked the market when it moved to raise fresh funds to shore up its battered balance sheet, sold $11bn (£5.6bn) of toxic mortgage securities and took a fresh $5.7bn mortgage-related write-down - just 10 days after it slipped into the red and unveiled write-downs of $9.4bn.

As the first anniversary of the credit crunch approaches, total write-downs announced by the world's largest banks have ballooned to $274bn. Some estimates suggest that the total losses, related to US sub-prime mortgages and leveraged loans, could hit $1 trillion.

Citigroup $47bn

Merrill Lynch $46bn

UBS $37bn

HSBC $25bn

Lehman Brothers $17bn

Morgan Stanley $12bn

Royal Bank of Scotland $11.8bn

Deutsche Bank $10bn

Crédit Agricole $7bn

Bank of America $7bn

Wachovia $6bn

Société Générale $6bn

Credit Suisse $6bn

JP Morgan $4.9bn

Natixis $4.3bn

Goldman Sachs $3.8bn

Barclays $3.8bn

Bear Stearns $3.2bn

BayernLB $3bn

IKB $2.6bn

HBOS $2bn

Lloyds TSB $1.7bn

Washington Mutual $1.6bn

UniCredit $1.6bn

WestLB $1.5bn

Commerzbank $1.1bn

National Australia Bank $950m

here's the complete article :

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/top-stories/story/644504.html

Posted 20 August 2008 17:26   (Post #52243)


 

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Hi,

I had a close look at the banks for a simple account when I arrived here.

The cheapest is obviously the http://www.postfinance.ch/ but I didn't like the service, also it was not possible to open a rent security deposit for renting an appartment.

Then I had a look at UBS. I didn't like, that they charge you for using ATMs of other banks in Switzerland. Also they charge you for every money transfer.

I asked the people in my office coming from Geneva which would be the best bank here and then decided to open an account at Banque Cantonale de Geneve:

 http://www.bcge.ch/index.php?SubMenu=gestiondefortune&lang=en

You can use every ATM in Switzerland without extra charges, they don't charge you for money transfer (except abroad), they have a good service (if I have a question per mail, I always get a reply within 20min) and they have a good, english internet banking.

Hope, this could help


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