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AVS/ AHV application for 'independants'

Hello,


I know that there are a few posts on this topic out there already but none seems to really address how to apply for an AVS/AHV number when a self-employed person arrives in Geneva, most just say your employer should apply for you.


So does anyone know how a self-employed independant (already with Permit B) can apply to get an AVS/AHV number? Is there an AVS/AHV office in the Geneva canton that I need to contact?


Thank you for your help


Alex

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Hello,


I know that there are a few posts on this topic out there already but none seems to really address how to apply for an AVS/AHV number when a self-employed person arrives in Geneva, most just say your employer should apply for you.


So does anyone know how a self-employed independant (already with Permit B) can apply to get an AVS/AHV number? Is there an AVS/AHV office in the Geneva canton that I need to contact?


Thank you for your help


Alex


Alex MMar 21, 2014 @ 12:28
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http://www.ocas.ch/fr/modif_coti_perso/modif_coti_perso.asp


 





 Adresse    

Office AI du canton de Genève 
Rue des Gares
Case postale 2096
1211 Genève 2



 Tel.
022 327 27 27


 Fax
022 327 28 10


 E-mail
[email protected]


 Web Site
www.ocas.ch


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http://www.ocas.ch/fr/modif_coti_perso/modif_coti_perso.asp


 





 Adresse    

Office AI du canton de Genève 
Rue des Gares
Case postale 2096
1211 Genève 2



 Tel.
022 327 27 27


 Fax
022 327 28 10


 E-mail
[email protected]


 Web Site
www.ocas.ch



epicure, Mar 21, 2014 @ 12:38
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Dear epicure,


Thank you. The link provided seems to be for people who already have a "N° d’affilié". 


I will try to contact OCAS. 


Thanks again.


Kind regards,


Alex

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Dear epicure,


Thank you. The link provided seems to be for people who already have a "N° d’affilié". 


I will try to contact OCAS. 


Thanks again.


Kind regards,


Alex


Alex M, Mar 21, 2014 @ 14:32
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This section of OCAS is in English:


http://www.ocas.ch/fr/form.asp/0-0-1055-0-0-0/1-6-355-4-1-0-0/


Contacts:


http://www.ocas.ch/fr/contact.asp/0-0-418-6-0-0/1-6-353-4-1-0-0/


Email for self-employed: [email protected]

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This section of OCAS is in English:


http://www.ocas.ch/fr/form.asp/0-0-1055-0-0-0/1-6-355-4-1-0-0/


Contacts:


http://www.ocas.ch/fr/contact.asp/0-0-418-6-0-0/1-6-353-4-1-0-0/


Email for self-employed: [email protected]


hay_, Mar 21, 2014 @ 17:34
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Hi, I am self-employed and pay my AVS via FER-CIAM. "Membership fee" is 200.-/year. Service indépendants: 022 715 33 80. www.ciam-avs.ch.


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Régine

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Hi, I am self-employed and pay my AVS via FER-CIAM. "Membership fee" is 200.-/year. Service indépendants: 022 715 33 80. www.ciam-avs.ch.


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Régine


rusks, Mar 22, 2014 @ 06:46
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Hi, I am self-employed and pay my AVS via FER-CIAM. "Membership fee" is 200.-/year. Service indépendants: 022 715 33 80. www.ciam-avs.ch.

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Régine


Mar 22, 14 06:46

Hi Regine,


What is the advantage of using this organisation over paying OCAS directly? Presumably the 200 is an additional fee, or is that the entire contribution? I pay them directly, a percentage of my income.


And to the original poster, Alex. I became registered when my fiduciare wrote them a simple letter asking that I become registered. They then wrote lots of letters to me asking for a description of my work, requesting a profit & loss statement and a few other things. They also wanted to see contracts from numerous clients as proof, to qualify as independent they have specific criteria. One of these criteria is that you have multiple contracts rather than be financially dependent on one contract. I think they need 5 contracts but you'd really need to check that. I believe some people have difficulty with this part of the applicatio. For more detail on criteria, see below.


http://www.jaminternational.com/node/84


They are quite helpful and open if you speak to them by telephone. I'm not sure how anglo friendly they are but it's worth a try.


Good luck.


Amy

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Hi Regine,


What is the advantage of using this organisation over paying OCAS directly? Presumably the 200 is an additional fee, or is that the entire contribution? I pay them directly, a percentage of my income.


And to the original poster, Alex. I became registered when my fiduciare wrote them a simple letter asking that I become registered. They then wrote lots of letters to me asking for a description of my work, requesting a profit & loss statement and a few other things. They also wanted to see contracts from numerous clients as proof, to qualify as independent they have specific criteria. One of these criteria is that you have multiple contracts rather than be financially dependent on one contract. I think they need 5 contracts but you'd really need to check that. I believe some people have difficulty with this part of the applicatio. For more detail on criteria, see below.


http://www.jaminternational.com/node/84


They are quite helpful and open if you speak to them by telephone. I'm not sure how anglo friendly they are but it's worth a try.


Good luck.


Amy


Amy Soska, Mar 22, 2014 @ 08:47
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Hi, depending on your activity, OCAS makes it difficult for you to register as self-employed. To my knowledge, FER-CIAM is more forthcoming. But yes, it costs 200.-/y in addition to what you actually pay into AVS. Good luck. Régine

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Hi, depending on your activity, OCAS makes it difficult for you to register as self-employed. To my knowledge, FER-CIAM is more forthcoming. But yes, it costs 200.-/y in addition to what you actually pay into AVS. Good luck. Régine


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FER is better especially if you have a small business. they are more accessible.

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FER is better especially if you have a small business. they are more accessible.


Marcy S, Mar 26, 2014 @ 20:13
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HI,


 


I am working here in Geneva, I have the AVS number.


anyone knows how to get the AVS number for my dependent wife and child?


 


The insurance people need it for the insurance card.


 


Thanks,


Anirban.

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HI,


 


I am working here in Geneva, I have the AVS number.


anyone knows how to get the AVS number for my dependent wife and child?


 


The insurance people need it for the insurance card.


 


Thanks,


Anirban.


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