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Sep 3, 2017 @ 15:48

Hello everybody! I would like to tell you about my disadventure at Annemasse where I live. I would like to ask for your opinion.


Coming back a week ago from the holidays at 10pm I found a notice hanging from the door. The “syndic” (building administrator) warns me that due to asbestos control (not so urgent) he had to force my door (in the presence of a officer of justice) to enter. Obviously, I remained out of home and had to go to the hotel. In addition to the annoyance, the syndic informed me that the cost of the break-in and the new lock will be charged to me because I had been warned of this visit by registered letter on July 26th (when I had already departed for the holidays). The nice "visit" was on August 2nd, just one week after and during a full vacation period. In practice, they have been authorized by themselves !!


Is it possible this behavior in France is legal? Thanks!

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Hello everybody! I would like to tell you about my disadventure at Annemasse where I live. I would like to ask for your opinion.


Coming back a week ago from the holidays at 10pm I found a notice hanging from the door. The “syndic” (building administrator) warns me that due to asbestos control (not so urgent) he had to force my door (in the presence of a officer of justice) to enter. Obviously, I remained out of home and had to go to the hotel. In addition to the annoyance, the syndic informed me that the cost of the break-in and the new lock will be charged to me because I had been warned of this visit by registered letter on July 26th (when I had already departed for the holidays). The nice "visit" was on August 2nd, just one week after and during a full vacation period. In practice, they have been authorized by themselves !!


Is it possible this behavior in France is legal? Thanks!


Mauro MSep 3, 2017 @ 15:48
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Sep 4, 2017 @ 14:46

This story is amazing! Surprised

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This story is amazing! Surprised


Astrid P, Sep 4, 2017 @ 14:46
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Sep 4, 2017 @ 17:27

I've read that many syndics perform very bad service. So I'm not convinced that  this is such an extraordinary story.


 


The syndic works for the co-proprieté. So I'd check if the Assembée Generale had decided to execute this contral, and when. If the AG had made such a decision, then he probably is covered.


 


If you're a renter, and your land-lord hasn't informed you of such a decision, than you can complain to him.


 

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I've read that many syndics perform very bad service. So I'm not convinced that  this is such an extraordinary story.


 


The syndic works for the co-proprieté. So I'd check if the Assembée Generale had decided to execute this contral, and when. If the AG had made such a decision, then he probably is covered.


 


If you're a renter, and your land-lord hasn't informed you of such a decision, than you can complain to him.


 


tawb, Sep 4, 2017 @ 17:27
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Sep 4, 2017 @ 17:28

I am not an expert in French law but the notification sent was very short. Unless there is imminent danger - such as pipe broken, gas leakage etc. I very much doubt that with sending one notification, they have had the right to open up the appartment. 


French law is really pro-tenant.


To me the whole issue seems to be as if someone forgot to do his/her own job at the building management company - they may have been obliged by a public body to complete the assessment within a certain deadline and the case handler went overboard to complete the task.


I think if you have a legal insurance, it is worth to check the legal background. 

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I am not an expert in French law but the notification sent was very short. Unless there is imminent danger - such as pipe broken, gas leakage etc. I very much doubt that with sending one notification, they have had the right to open up the appartment. 


French law is really pro-tenant.


To me the whole issue seems to be as if someone forgot to do his/her own job at the building management company - they may have been obliged by a public body to complete the assessment within a certain deadline and the case handler went overboard to complete the task.


I think if you have a legal insurance, it is worth to check the legal background. 


Reka Y, Sep 4, 2017 @ 17:28
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Sep 6, 2017 @ 10:10

was a nightmare, not amazing :D

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was a nightmare, not amazing :D


Mauro M, Sep 6, 2017 @ 10:10
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Sep 6, 2017 @ 10:13

I've read that many syndics perform very bad service. So I'm not convinced that  this is such an extraordinary story.

 

The syndic works for the co-proprieté. So I'd check if the Assembée Generale had decided to execute this contral, and when. If the AG had made such a decision, then he probably is covered.

 

If you're a renter, and your land-lord hasn't informed you of such a decision, than you can complain to him.

 


Sep 4, 17 17:27

Thanks. I think you are right. But in any case I don't think that it is legal to break the door just one week after being informed abot the control. Since I am the owner I can just complain... to myself

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Thanks. I think you are right. But in any case I don't think that it is legal to break the door just one week after being informed abot the control. Since I am the owner I can just complain... to myself


Mauro M, Sep 6, 2017 @ 10:13
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Sep 6, 2017 @ 10:14

I am not an expert in French law but the notification sent was very short. Unless there is imminent danger - such as pipe broken, gas leakage etc. I very much doubt that with sending one notification, they have had the right to open up the appartment. 

French law is really pro-tenant.

To me the whole issue seems to be as if someone forgot to do his/her own job at the building management company - they may have been obliged by a public body to complete the assessment within a certain deadline and the case handler went overboard to complete the task.

I think if you have a legal insurance, it is worth to check the legal background. 


Sep 4, 17 17:28

I'm doing as you suggested me. I will contact my insurance. Thanks a lot!

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I'm doing as you suggested me. I will contact my insurance. Thanks a lot!


Mauro M, Sep 6, 2017 @ 10:14
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