http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN0bB4Op_Is&feature=related

Efxaristo Katerina !   That was Beautiful !

live for the now and let your destiny come to you rather than chasing it.... if you get today right, tomorrow will fall in place sure enough.

slainte

Hi Charlie,

I like the way you described it.  I am trying to live more in the present moment. 

Perhaps Famous, Successful People are doing just that as opposed to living their destinies.   Just getting it right today and letting tomorrow work out for itself.

Thanks,

Cat

my pleasure ;-)

The best places to go are those where, in order to get there, you have to take an exciting or interesting or beautiful route. Having a destination is fine -a kick in the ass is important- but the trick is selecting the one that's most enjoyable to get to.

It's a bit like that, innit. Sure, you can rattle off cliches like get today right and tomorrow will be fine, but I'm super doubtful about whether anyone actually believe it or live like that. You have to put "today" into some kind of broader context - what's right and how do you know you managed it?

So yeah. I think it's pretty important to have some kind of idea where you want to go with your life. The trick is making that destination: (a) somewhere you will never quite reach; and (b) ideally located in order to do a lot of cool stuff along the way.

Hayes, errr...oh fuggit, hangover...cant think to argue, too busy living last night over and over again

re-living the past?! that would be like a backwards journey or something. i don't think that's even allowed within the parameter space of this thread... 

but it's probably best. the passive-aggressive, conversation-is-just-a-game-of-chess side of me has already decided that if you push this point, then i'm only going to call you a hippy. i don't think either of us wants that.

hippy? yep, thats the inner me

peace bro

I don't think there is a set destiny for us in life, I actually think it's more like a journey that we take until we're gone and your destiny is being lived by you as you go through life!

I would like to believe there is something after we're gone but deep inside I think there is not! Maybe I look at things from a very scientific point of view?

I do think that life is meant to be fun, and not to sound like I encourage people to be mediocre but at the end of the road, it does not matter how much you stress or didn't stress, how much you studied, how much money you had or didn't have, because the only thing we have guaranteed in our journey through life is that one die we will cease to exist.

That's why I started to take life as a fun journey because I know one day it will be over and then it's game over for a long long long long but very long time!

However this journey can be painful if you do not pay attention to your actions, plenty of lessons to be learned the hard way, therefore you have to know your limits and you have to respect the delicate balance of our mother nature so you won't disturb her while you're traveling on your journey to the end.

I do think that life is meant to be fun, and not to sound like I encourage people to be mediocre but at the end of the road, it does not matter how much you stress or didn't stress, how much you studied, how much money you had or didn't have, because the only thing we have guaranteed in our journey through life is that one die we will cease to exist.

That's all true, of course -- whatever you have you (probably) can't take it with you. But having stuff for yourself or just for the sake of it isn't the only way to approach it. Basically humans are the only creatures that can do stuff that outlives them. Create stuff, build stuff, invent things that are much bigger than a person. Leave stuff for people and hopefully make things better. Your goal could be to do something unique and meaningful that nobody else has done and that totally outlives you, like i dunno, produce some piece of art or literature, or find out something about how nature works and pass that on, or cure a disease or help just people to do things that they otherwise couldn't. That stuff is hard and you have to spend a long time thinking about it, working on it, finding the time/money/collaborators, or studying. But the point is that anybody can do it and it's worth aiming for in my opinion. Even if it means you have to devote a little less time to getting royally twonged.

The mountains are spectacular whether you are contemplating them from below or admiring the view on the summit.  But it's the climb that's adventurous, challenging and exhilarating, not arriving at the summit, and if you look around you during the climb you will find wonder everywhere .  I'm sure you have all read the Alchemist? If not, it is worthy of a read.

Enjoy the sunshine this wkd...

Since all of us have only one grim final destination, life CAN'T only be about the destination, can it?

I believe it is about trying to steer your way in a path that suits you the most towards this destination, but stopping every now and then to appreciate the beauty of your surroundings and the long way you have gone through...

“I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted”

George Best

ok. so imagine i was lucky enough to get a ticket to this great great once-in-a-lifetime concert, excellent place, excellent price, excellent theater, everything. and when i finally find myself there, i decide, the moment the concert begins, to keep my eyes closed and stick earplugs in my ears because well, the show will end sometime, anyway.

i may even complain that some people will be enjoying the show and singing along out loud.

i'd call myself a big big waste of existance matter.

existance matters.

"Maradona good, Pelé better, George Best"

“Mary had a little sheep,
With the sheep she went to sleep.
The sheep turned out to be a ram,
And Mary had a little lamb.”

Steven Tyler

Johnny B Goode, Huddie Ledbetter, Pete Best. 

NNITO

Do you think MJ was blessed?

There's clearly no pleasing some people...

So Wrong, So Wronger, So Wrongest

he who lives in a glass house...

bad mood, bad met her, bad meh test

no idea what a meh test is and hence if a bad one is like the worst of experiences, but hey... that makes three bads in a row. cheer up. goldilocks once found three beds in a row and she managed to survive. can't be that different.

I think life is about an ideal, which you life through your journey, till you reach your destiny, at the right time. Does it make sense?

:)

The meh test is there to determine whether you duh test life or not...

i see... thanks for the enlightenment...

maybe i should take the test but as far as some things are going today i'm afraid i'll flunk.

My next destination is a ragú!

If you push against a door the wrong way it won't open.

I think this post would be more relevant in the singles/dating thread. 

Morning Lad,

Its perfectly relevant here, since too many people run at life and end up pushing the wrong way trying to force destiny.

(its also relevant in the other thread , but with wholly other conotations)

yeeaah...notreally. just because some smegtard put the hinges on backwards doesn't mean you have to do things that way. sure you can open it the right way sometimes, but other times no - it may take work or creativity or just force, but open the damn door the way you want.

but there's no "pushing the wrong way", sir. as i see it it's called pulling, no?

see, same door. push it "the right way" as you say. you will be going out before you have come in.

as i see it it's called pulling.

like i said. singles thread.

OHMANAMIONFIRETODAYORWHAT!!!1!1!!

and to think Jesus appears twice on your playlist...

looks just like catholic school.

I know!  I was surprised to see that as well (as well as who? you didn't say you were surprised but i'll just assume that you were). but in what context?!

yeah, fwiw, you're right about the catholic schooling. once that stuff gets into you it's hard to get rid of it. 

somebody is going to say something incomprehensible now. my money is on charlie. 

humpty dumpty sat on the wall

no one pushed him, so he didnt fall.

little miss muffet sat on a tuffet

eating her curds and whey,

along came a spider

with a handsome young driver

..who whisked her off and away.

Ohhhh...I just LOOOVE nursery rhymes....here's one for you Charlie

Little Miss Muffet sat on her tuffet

her clothes all tattered and torn

it wasn't the spider that crept beside her

but Little Boy Blue and his horn

or the rapper variation...

Yo...Little Miss Muffet
sat down on her tuffet yo...
eating some curds and whey yo.
Along came a bad spider
and crashed down beside her yo
and said "Whaz in tha bowl, bitch?"

Jack and Jill

went up the hill

and planned to do some kissing

jack made a pass

and grabbed her ass

now his two front teeth are missing.

oh...I do love this....

Mary had a little lamb...her father shot the sheppard :-))

Mary had a little lamb,

her father shot it dead,

now she goes to school with it,

between two bits of bread.

ok last one, then I have to get back to work....

Jack and Jill
Went up the hill,
Each one with a quarter.
Jill came down with fifty cents;
Do you think they went for water?

Life is but a journey...where you slave to make a living one way or the other.

Goodnight campers!

On the original subject... you know that early arcade game from the 80s 'Asteroids' where you sit in the middle of the screen trying to desperately to deflect and destroy on-rushing asteroids until finally and inevitably you get pulverised?

only cowards stay in the middle

and eventually some late unlucky Y-class passengers.

A bucket of cold water... works with dogs.

"If skirts got any shorter"

Said the typist with a blush...

"There'd be two more lips to powder

And lots more hair to brush...!”

yeah, it looks like that would work on the surface, doesn't it. 

the problem is related to that thing that annoying people keep saying -- that whenever you take a breath you are breathing air that was once breathed by isaac newton or jean-paul sartre or eve lawson (the mitochondrial). it's unfortunate, and rather embarrassing, that the cold-water-for-atheism brigade don't realise it: that a bucket of water, warm or cold, contains so many particles that you can be 100% sure that somewhere along the line some fucker has blessed some of it. 

now, it won't be very concentrated you say, sure i agree, but once you account for the homeopathic law of infinitesimals, i may as well just stay on my goddamned knees. 

LOL

let's be fair here and consider -- i admit it, i *had* to go back and give it a second scan -- that the devil is mentioned 1x and Baader-Meinhof 1x, so this should at least equal the balance...

thank god (oops!), some hope remains...

off-playlist (don't know any version for catholic boys, though):

Iggy didn't write "I am a passenger" while trying to make out the names of the canapés from the faux calligraphy of the menu in 1st! And now he's ended up making a living as a car insurance salesman. So definitely the journey then.

certainly a peculiar way to apply all that ride n ride n ride car experience.

My goal for today is to make sure that I dont feel tomorrow how I feel today.

(Hangover = todays punishment for yesterdays misdemeanours)

So DrCat, after all this food for thought, what do you reckon? Journey or Destination?

I suspect our resident Dr is too busy looking at life through rose coloured spectacles .

or maybe she got off the vessel when maradona, pete best and all the lambs hopped in...

What about both?

I am a believer in the saying "the only certainty in life is death", i.e. an ending

Maybe it is only once we reach that inevitable ending, that we can gain perspective. The perspective to see how the journey went, and the point to which we arrived. Most religions believe in a person being accountable for what they have done, seeing their experiences again, being judged on how they completed the journey. In both Christianity and Buddhism this 'weighing' of one's soul makes a difference to where you go in the afterlife (or new life).

As a good friend of mine once said, quoted as anonymous: "don't take life too seriously, no one gets out of it alive."

In conclusion,

Love Life & Enjoy

life's a journey..an adventure...ive had many fine retarded moments..lookin forward 2 some more before  joinin another world ful of even more retarded moments...

enjoy the music with a mojito 

I guess that would be the Magic of Life - taking another route and seeing what`s there.

Assuming we all have a destiny - aren`t we supposed to live it as soon as possible that way the Magic of Life would be always sustained ?

My Ultimate Desire is to Create a significant thing that will OUTLIVE me in which it helps to evolve the world in some way.

I always thought there were two kinds of people, the visionary inventors/creators and the people who live off the inventions and creations eg:  The Plane - Electricity.     We all create something that outlives us in one way or another - its just if its significant to others is the question.

It still bewilders me whether we are going somewhere or if we are already here.

So Hayes the above answers are for your threads.

I want to thank everyone for answering this - lots of new ideas.

Charlie I love looking through my glasses that way I always see La Vie en Rose !

Guyz I know that the longest journey you will ever take is back to yourself but perhaps THAT is our destiny - to understand who we are and exprience ourselves more than anything and LIVE LIFE as such thus living your destiny and not trying to get to it.

HERE IS A THOUGHT:  Once you have created a significant contribution towards mans evolution - perhaps you get to live on another level once you are in transition ( dead for those who do not see it this way ).

Take MJ for instance - there is no way that he resonates somewhere else as any common person - he is Immortal and will for sure continue to resonate on higher levels do you not think so ?

You can also say that a Monk can reach high levels - fair enough - but there must be a category where each person goes onto totally different levels - no different than graduating from school.

The more people we touch the more we are living our destiny ????

With regard to the MJ example - he will only be as immortal as people remember him, CD players and electricity. His life has surely transcended death, just look at the 'movie' made out of it after his passing, people will keep talking and listening to him like Elvis, Marley, Mozart, etc. Although he only 'exists' in a social vacuum - not everyone in the world knows "who's bad"

What about other impacts, the above artists will live on in our culture, but what about physical impact? e.g. the human beings who sculpted Mouth Rushmore, or the Great Wall of China, Venice, etc.

I am all about leaving a positive impact, on other's lives as much as the earth, but in where would that 'bar' ever be set? Would a billionaire giving all his money towards curing disease X be really attaining a 'higher level' then someone how volunteers every weekend at a homeless shleter, feeding the poor... and what about other altruistic actions (which I hope everyone does at least once a day)?. Surely the former has a greater 'visible' impact, also in terms of material sacrifice; but does that necessarily translate a greater moral, spiritual, existential impact then the latter?

my two cents

Nicola I have thought of this over and over again.

As you said how is a billionnaire donating money any different than those who volunteer to help others ?  Agreed on this point - puzzled also.

Puzzled because there must be some kind of specific energy that we all reach depending on what exactly we do.

We can not compare an artist or musician who also entertains others and one who has touched the souls of many who resonate endlessly amongst cellular electromagentic fields ( once something has entered you especially sound it will resonate within you way beyond you - even your next generation - just science stuff ).

Back to the other great people who created something - it is not that all of us will go to a greater place its just that there must be some kind of specific place where each of our contributions have placed us.   Does that make sense ?

So living ones destiny in my view was to live the resonance of affecting people in a positive way and leaving something significant behind you - but living it while the significance is happening will bring your soul to greater heights.

Imagine if everyone were to be living their dreams and asperations - we would all be happy when it comes to die because we will have a self satifaction in our profecy.   

So if you are not living your destination you are living your journey meaning that just like buddhism would suggest you keep coming down here over and over again to understand your lessons - until you have made your mark - because what we have done was never enought to become immortal.

For pheraps that is what we live here for - to become immortal in some ways.

What do you think ?

By the way we have to have a great drink over this one Nicola :-)  Anytime :-)

life is full of beauty for all anonimous heroes as well, this contingent of amazing, incredible human beings that do their daily jobs with dignity, honesty and love (yes, i am aware, big cliché, but plz give me a break).

planet earth is not some big oscar award night, there isn't space only for grandioses, to tell the truth i think the world belongs to the small ones. some of those which you may ignore on the trams (where did i read this?), but who probably in one way or another help to keep the wheel turning for all of us.

Hi Marina,

IT takes everyone to create a Masterpiece !  After all MJ would be nothing if all others did not buy his albums nor would Mother Teresa be who she is if it were not for those TO help - the starving.

Doctors are also not needed if no one suffers so in actual fact everyone makes the world go round for sure.

My question is :  Who is living their Destiny and Who Not ?