Yeap. Whatever you heard is wrong. Geneva is perfect for 25somethings. Ok its not London but we like it!

Whatever you heard is damn right!!!!  especially after New York, i wish u good luck. The only good point is that you can travel easily, so start planing your trips , especially for winter ;)

GENVEVA IS VERY BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Especially for a single person....

why so negative Geoffrey and Nathalie? 

i´m having great fun in geneva - and Mark - probably after being spoiled from new yorks big melting pot of what it offers to a single man of 25yrs. you simply have to consider that geneva is a loot smaller, but relatively to that you can still have a lot fun. probably in a different way you used to have in ny. 

but be sure that geneva is quite a young city as well - with lots of people of age 25 -35

and your questions particularly about dating - dont worry about that Mark 

@Mark, you have heard totally right! There are lack of 25 to 30 years old people and the ones who are here everyone of them tries to do everything to leave the city for weekends like Nathalie pointed out. At summer time this is still vibrant and lively city in this respect when people stay here, but beware of the winter. Beware!

Gender ratio is also really faschinating when it comes to the social interaction. There are few different social circles which usually don't tend to mix up at all. Along with this, you can imagine how lively does the social interaction be between different language groups. When you fit all this to the city's size you get the outcome. You feel like banging your head to the invisible walls all the time.

And to point out, this is not only my humble opinion.

The above posts are largely correct. The Summer here is great, warm and you have the lake for swimming etc. The winter is a different world. Its baltic cold and the city is a ghost town at the weekends as everyone goes skiing.

if you're a skier/ snowboarder you're laughing. If you're keen to learn ditto. If not you better have a big DVD collection.

Last thing, your compensation package will need to be good because Geneva is almost 2x NYC prices for pretty much everything.

I like it here, but i have a young family and so don't really miss the socialising. My Collegues (all from Dublin, so know a lot about going out), say its a big step down from a proper city (GE is more a small town), but there's still fun to be had (even if its taking the train to the south of France, flying to Barcelona etc etc)

Hi Mark,

It s not the place that count but people you are with and your state of mind...

Geneva offers a large choice of activity : outdoor ( lake, mountain,parc, stadium...), cultural ( museum, theatre, concert....), nightlife ( restaurant, pub, loung bar, club..) with differend styles from ultra posh to underground...

Now, meeting local people is not easy you have to be patient and open to meet them, but in same time, there is a lot international people that you can easily socialize.

About dating, believe me if you re nice and gentle no problem on that point ;-)

right tryky

at the end you need to find the right one... i am sure you will be able to find at least one person that suits you!

NYC is maybe bigger but more anonymous?

I also moved from NYC (which I love and will for ever be my favorite city in the world!) a year ago and can assure you that Geneva is great for people in their late 20's. Of course you don't have hundreds of options as you do in NY, but the ones available are very cool, not only in the summer but also when it gets colder.

I agree that Geneva is more fun during the week than on weekends, which is perfect, because you can stay here, work, go out, hang around the lake during the week and on weekends travel around.

All my friends that came to visit so far were surprised on how fun Geneva can be, I think it's still a "hidden secret", but you will see, if you give the town a chance and allow your self time to adapt (it took me about 2 months) you will also fall in love with Geneva.

I agree with the post above, if you manage to get 1-2 nice friends around here, it's enough. As I said, it's not like you have a lot of alternatives to go out to, so you don't need several different crowds, for each occasion, as opposed to what happens in NY.

And, when you reaaaallly miss hard core NY fun, remember that the big apple is only 7 hours away, with direct flights :)

@Mark Your choice is simple : if you're taking your decision based on the compensation package then Geneva is the right place. On the other hand if you enjoy life and dating especially when you'll arrive here , you will be shocked. If you have a lots of good luck maybe you will find somebody and even then you have to lower a little bit your standards, here even the Cruellas see themselfs as Snow White.   

From my point of view you have two options : more money, less social life, less dating and so on or less money but you keep your dating life.

If you're going to google a little bit you will find several studies which confirm that Geneva is a dying city. Most of the people are old or young but with a grandma mentality.   

Pepso was right about the social interaction and it's really funny, Geneva is like OZ, you have several groups that don't mix.

Well thanks for everyone's input, I don't think I've ever seen such a stark difference of opinion, it's almost as if you're all living in different cities...

One thing I forgot to mention is that I don't speak french (I will try to learn) and will probably relegate myself to hanging out with mostly expats, at least in the beginning.

" Pepso was right about the social interaction and it s really funny, Geneva is like OZ, you have several groups that don t mix"

May be I m very lucky, but I have many differend friends with all kind of social background, job, color skin, way of life... I m not saying that it s easy but people here are not that close ( may be except people with ferrari, boat and huge house in Cologny, but is it not the same every where else? ).

If you have a good opportunity and great job offer ( be carrefull because life here is at quiete expensive),just come and see by yourself, you re still young, you can take the risk ;-)

Yeah, it's always the same when you start talking about this subject. It's probably not very helpful for your decision :-)

I totally agree that it's more your state of mind that's important. If you come with an open mind and no specific expectations you will find people and places you like, I'm sure. For a start, there's glocals. There's a lot of activities going on which makes starting a social network easier. If you're serious about learning French (excellent idea!) then there are also opportunities (sports clubs, associations etc) to meet French speakers and "locals" (you'll see that the term "local" is difficult to define here: even people who have grown up here often have parents from different countries).

I'm more into outdoor and alternative culture stuff, but I definitely don't get bored here and I'm sure you won't (unless you want to).

if you wanna get depressed join the club...fuckin snobs everywhere in geneva...

@Jonas.One's attitude determines how one sees the world. Hence, the same event can be viewed both as positive and negative

@Mark.I would not write off Geneva just like that... I am also from New York and some people do not like Manhattan either., Stay away from negative people!

Very interesting to see so many different inputs and opinions about Geneva.

I moved from NYC to Geneva 7 months ago, I have to say that I was very depressing here. First be carefull about your package, I thought the same before coming but didn't think about lot of things, everything is very expensive here, I would say double for nightlife and restaurants,... My first chock was to see everything closing so early here and I don't even speak about Sunday. Second chock was to see nobody anywhere. I read "Ghost city", that exactly what I though...

But then, I started settling down, meeting people from all over the world a few from NYC as well, and fund that it was finally easier to find yourself close to other people. I also started skiing, believe me, that's an awesome experience to be able to take such a nice breath after a hard week. I also start to travel in Europe, mainly for business, but Europe is small compared to USA, you can go to Italy, Spain, France in 1 or 2 hours. I used to go abroad twice a month. So yes, more than thinking about a city to go, think about discovering a new continent and a new way of life. But please, bring your NY state of mind, Geneva needs it :)

"If you come with an open mind and no specific expectations you will find people and places you like, I'm sure."

@eva77, believe me when I say sadly this is not enough. It is a lot about which circle you're thrown by your work/occupation, where about you live / manage to get an appartment and for sure, a lot about yourself. Like tryky says, he has been most likely lucky indeed. At least either he have been a wizard or then some of us rest are dump to be in wrong place on our first moments. So many of us here stays short perioid of time which in my mind results to circles evolving around usually colleagues / other same of a kind people. And following this, still I believe big part of younger people coming here to work in big organizations in private or public sector where you have already build up social activity which you take part not because you really want to be part of it, but because it is so easy in middle of everything else. ...just my own guess though and hope not to be "killed" for it.

For example I was thrown into homogenic group of not so likeminded people. Still, thankfully later on I have been lucky enough to find more likeminded friends around me from elsewhere. I also easily believe that there are a lot of people who feel to be part of group they really don't belong. Could this explain some of the bad attitude towards the city and its social circumstances?

And yes, then we have for sure obvious language "issues" but I don't dare to start that talk

Hi Mark,

The first thing to remember is: you'll be fine. Take a look, you already have a bunch of people who have opinions they are willing to share about this subject :-) So it shouldn't be too hard for you to make conversation here at least! There are a couple people in perfect situations that love this place, and that is great. For most of the rest of us it's quite a struggle, but at least it's one we share.

...but yes, many of the concerns above are valid, and unless you are a social butterfly seeking to be out all the time, or somehow getting asked to hang out all of the time, you have to work at it a little more, and as pepso said:

"It is a lot about which circle you're thrown by your work/occupation, where about you live / manage to get an appartment and for sure, a lot about yourself."

While I disagree with those who think dating is not something you should be concerned about (you're young, single, you should be entitled to enjoy your life in the company of some beautiful person(s) while you are here), I do think here it is better to focus on the things Geneva gives you:

1) A springboard to travel to the most beautiful places in Europe. I have seen so much!

2) Wondeful, intelligent, and sometimes even friendly people who have come here from all over the world to live out their dreams. For example, my colleagues and a select, (key word) reliable, few of the glocals crowd I have met.

3) Decent weather (much better than the crazy swings of temperature in the U.S.)

4) A pretty lake you can always go down to with friends or just to be alone with your thoughts.

5) Unbelievable summer life and festivals in Geneva and throughout Switzerland

6,7,8,9,... etc...

And maybe via the process of enjoying the things that are good here, you will find really some really fun people and maybe even some romance.

(That's what I keep telling myself anyway. Ha!)

Good luck!

Hi Guys,

It's a very interesting topic posted here!!! I agree that people in Geneva are not so open and making friends it's difficult  even if you are living here from many years or if you are here for a short time, too much individualist!. I think it's a question of luck and it depends in which environment you are living.It's more working by network, i mean you meet someone who enters you into it's circle of friends then you meet other people who introduce you to others etc... You can notice that lots of persons are eating alone at the restaurant, going alone at the cinema... Specially old people... Anyway I am glad that a website like Glocals exist!

The winter time is dead compares to the summer which is beautiful by its landscapes and by the lively atmosphere... It's a nice city surrounded by the lake and the mountains, we are lucky, the quality of life here is good. Anywhere you have pros and cons everywhere... What to do...

Cheers

Celeste

Come on guys, it´s my 3rd week here, let me enjoy a bit more the excitement of living in a different country :)

Mark, i agree with some of the opinions above, it all comes down to your state of mind. You can be in a huge city and still feel alone, you may be in Alasca ou Siberia and feel as the happiest person in the world.

Good luck!!

I think the less expectations you have the more surprises you receive from life.

Hope it will be your case in geneva!

I agree with 110V - oftentimes these little quirky meaningful coincidences just come as a rather beautiful surprise (serendipitous, almost). I'm not into the dating scene at all, and I rarely socialise (save for my karate class, which isn't even socialising per se) but already get quite a number of invitations here and there. Guess the dating life in Geneva is quite active, after all.

Of course the law of large numbers applies here - the more you socialize, the more likely you'll meet that one person.

Geneva is much better than some people have described it here. You can use the Glocals activities as an excellent starting point.

Cheers,

L

dude ... a positive attitude and the knowledge that the apparent ratio of women to men in this city is 3 to 1 ;-)

see you at the next party then.

It s great to feel like lucky man

May be I m wrong but why it s hard to socialize and make friend with locals ( swiss people or those who grew here or at least lives in geneva for more than 5 years) it s may be because they are a bit fed up of expatriate who come here with good condition and complain about expensive life and criticize the swiss way of life...

They might also hear same topic for age : "every thing close early, dead city during sunday, posh and snob city, hard to find an appartment,last great expatriate party in Java, bad weather during winter..." so they prefer to stay with people who loves the city and share the same choice: staying in Geneva and enjoy it with it bad and good side...

Language barrier is also an interesting approach : most of people speak english here so you can socialize but after sometime, local people also appreciate that the effort is not only on one side, how many people lives in geneva for 2, 3 years and never take time to learn basic french? for sure, it s a big asset to break some wall and circle if you take time and effort to practice local language no?

about dating, you re in right place : geneva is full of : student, internship, expatriat, escort... the issue is not to date, but to find the right one. Lot of my girl friend are fed up with expatriate who come here for 2 years, make the most of it without any commitment and then go back home with nice souvenir of european girl... you cannot imagine how many girl from 25 to 35 I know who are desperatly single and looking for a serious relationship here...

Sorry for being that negative in this post, but I m here for 6 years and I really love this city, I chose to stay here nothing force me to do it... I love meeting people and help them to feel comfortable here, that s why I m on glocals and for sure i m not the only one like this in the city.

This thread is great!  I have been here three months and I also moved from New York and am learning to speak French (kind of).  Geneva has it's pros and cons, just like any other city.  I have heard from dozens of people, seriously dozens, that it does take a while to settle in and feel at home here and that it can be a challenge to make friends (not so hard to meet people, but to find people that you want to hang out with and actually be friends with).  I've been told this is a challenge even without the language barrier.  But this post alone shows me that clearly the 20-30 somethings are out there so it can't be that bad.

Having said that, I will also say that I still can not deal with the early closing hours of stores or the fact that there are restaurants that aren't open on Sunday and things like that.  Somehow for a nation known for handling people's money they don't seem very interested in making it (not through commerce anyway).  I have zero interest in shopping here because I can never get to any stores before they close, so that's one way of saving money.

It is incredibly expensive.  I think the housing prices are comparable to New York, but everything else is way more expensive. 

The upside is that you are in the heart of Europe, there are great opportunities to be active in and around the city and it really is a beautiful town (when its sunny at least). 

@tryky, now when the language thing came up I can just tell that here in Geneva is a population (like me) who needs French language only on grocerie shopping and same kind of rare events. I mean like garage, telephone company etc. At least at my work most needed language #1 is English, #2 I guess Spain or Italy and #4 I guess Germany. Then comes French and you know, with this little daily dosage of the language, no matter I have done courses, still the language remains only daily shopping qualified :) Any case, I don't consider this as a big issue if I would just be exposed to it more... I just brought it up as a divider between social circles here in Geneva.

@La Neice, yes, there indeed are 25-30 years old people hidden behind the masses of over 30 years old people. I can promise that :)

And for example, today everyone is welcome to join Bains de Paquis to meet people from Glocals' "age limit" of 22 to 30 :) You can see a posted event in below 30's group you can find from Groups tab. Last few meetings have been great in participation mind and at least I have met quite many new faces. It is not happening dating in mind rather than to meet people and what ever happens I'm not going to be there judging.

Thank you Tricky being so positive on the city I am from!

I used to live in Toronto. Everyone was saying or was thinking how boring this city must be. I had the exact same attitude as Tricky and had such a great time, meeting all kinds of people (expats or Canadians) and end up making true friendships with quite a few Canadians I am still in touch with. I experienced every aspects of the Canadian life and telling Canadian how excited and positive you are about experiencing their country goes a long way. The people who are originally from Toronto are as closed as the people from Geneva and I believe this applies to most cities. Meeting expats is always a lot easier than locals.

Be open, have no limit in your enthusiasm to experience what is around you and learn the language! Nobody spoke French in Toronto; I had to learn to speak better English and not only for grocery shopping…

In Geneva, the beauty for expats is that they don’t need to learn the language to survive, so that’s easy for you! In NYC everyone speaks English and that changes the dynamic. You can’t compare.

And Yes, Geneva is not NYC, no questions. You are coming here to experience something different. With Glocals you are all set.

I find Geneva VERY tough to meet the kind of person i would like to date.. i work in a bar but this , if anything, hinders meeting new folk

maybe Mr Right will wander into my bar lol

x

Mark, is any of the posts above going to affect your decision which you probably made yet ? :) are you serious ? :)

Geneva is a good place, so just get here and find out for yourself :)

Basel= Look out for the boats when floating down the Rhein

It's not that great, especially coming from New York you're gonna notice the change, for starters hardly anything here is open 24 hours... actually pretty much nothing is open sundays.

night life is boring, nothing but cocktail bars full of yupi wanna be's that empty out after midnight and that's about it.

bureaucracy is UNBELIEVABLE! even for something like finding an apartament, it took me 4 months just to find one!

the people are very bleeeeeeh, don't think of this colorful crazy new york people that are staring at you in the subway or the ones with thevery magnetic interesting personalities like the one's you'll find in NYC

the city is small and ugly, filled with portuguese and brazilians taking up pretty much all blue collar jobs from every one else's hands and with this ugly monoblock communist looking buildings.

the lake area es even less impressive, just a bunch of outrageously expensive hotels and watch stores by a lake filled with wannabe's

the decision is yours

come to geneva, get the great job you have in store for you, but this is no new york!

Nothing is New York, London, Paris, Shanghai... they are their own cities.

I am also from New York, have just arrived to Geneva, and am already enjoying it.  Find a cool hangout spot and just get into a groove, you'll be fine.

Also, join the glocals events... great way to interact with new people and get the low down on the city.

We New Yorkers are built for this, you'll do fine.

Poor Mark, he can write a book with all the opinions, he was asking only about "having a fun single life" and "dating", these were the main concerns so if anybody can elaborate starting from here it will be more usefull.

If you are an open socializing , easy going person you will have absolutely no problem making friends here. 

I've been here for a month. Sure.. yeah I speak French but most of the new interesting and fun friends I've made through Glocals are most of them English speakers.

For the dating part, i'd say take your time, don't jump to conclusions.

I agree with Trycky: nice, fun, easy going works like a charm.

Even if it doesn't get you a date , it might get you a friend. 

So have a good day and if you do write that book of impressions do post us a copy ;-)

PS: It's the Geneva Lake Parade today and it's 90F outside so it should be fun ! Lots of house music and people around the lake Leman. 

http://www.lakeparade.ch/

Summer is packed with activites and winter is packed with skiing and mountain fun ! 

Cheers !

Ioan 

I dont understand why people complain that Geneva is boring when there are 100s of activities in glocals

no Geneva is far from boring, in fact, if anything there is too much choice, just not when it comes to dating events or bars where you can meet likeminded, young people and where it doesnt feel like a cattle market x

Lyndsey, don t tell me that with such a great smile it s hard for you to have a date

Coming to Geneva from New york City? Good luck adapting! this place will seem like a little town.

And I agree, is not the most exciting place in the world, yes you have bars, yes you have things to do like museums, parties etc. BUT IT LACKS THAT ATMOSPHERE CITIES LIKE NEW YORK HAVE!

Lama Tryky says : staying in a city you don t feel comfortable in is bad for your karma, better go back home, nothing force you to stay.

Another thing, don't expect to find things readily available like in NYC, here they have a lot of bureaucracy and things like finding a place to live can be very very very but very tedious and bureaucratic!

The people: Don't expect the loud funny colorful NYC people here, people here are boring, fake, and it's all about having a rolex and driving a BMW! so don't expect an artistic crowd!!!! just a bunch of snobby people with money, and a bunch of snobby people without money but pretend to have it so they can be snobby too.

Some people say the best thing about Geneva besides the paychecks, it's the fact that France is a few minutes away so you can actually escape!

I have to agree and disagree with you Andy. People are boring YES but they aren't fake(unfortunatelly), they are simply empty, look carefully in the trams and buses in the morning and you can see through them, it will be nice to see some funny colorful people in Geneva but for the moment it isn't the case.

I saw some people complaining about dating and I can give them a tip. Go out in the clubs(Java only if you have an American Express Black) and stay until 5 in the morning. Meanwhile start to talk with some people and get drunk as well and probably at 5 you will leave with somebody(being drunk and tired). This is one of the solutions and it is pathetic I know but this is the way to do it. 

Nevertheless Geneva has many advantages(it is the capital of Europe) , nothing to say, but not dating and not funny and colorful people. 

I have lived here the last 2 years (currently 26) and consider Geneva DREADFUL for dating.  I believe one certainly develops great, profound relationships (whether friendship, dating, etc.) here but it really takes a silly amount of time and effort.

In regards to the lack of French speaking - being an Anglophone - you will probably find friendships and dating with others Anglophones easier, not because of the language but because of a more closely knit cultural understanding.  That does not go to see you can have fantastic meaningful relationships with non-Anglophones, even if you don't speak French, but they will be more challenging in time and resources to develop.

you got it!! EMPTY!

that's the word I was looking for..... I don't know what it is but for sure they are empty, and is not necessarily because of switzerland because I have some swiss friends in Basel who came down to visit me and that was their exact perception of the city as well.

One of them told me, wow it's culture shock for me as a Basel native, people here are so empty and emotionless.

Even some of the immigrants who have been here for a long long time!

Hahah Tryky thanks for the compliment but yes, i find it terrible.... i think it may be the freckles and cheeky humour that scare people off :P

x

Lyndsey let me introduce you my fealess friend ;-)

oh really.. tell me more :p x

It seems the only reason for the glocals to born and to become successful is that so many folks over here are just so desperate in looking for a little more saturated social life.

indeed..

i think the dating scene here is very confusing.. has anyone specifically answered marks questions about single nights/events .. i may try and organise something in the bar i work in if anyone would be interested?

x

it's ok lindsey - we are fed up with that dating shit so let us have our beers - make them 50 cents cheaper and we are ok...

and for others: it is very easy to date some girls. Get a yacht and some coke and girls will love you...

bur hey men we should stop putting girls in the centre of our life...just overlook them for a while...they will come back on their own...

and if not...who cares...one problem less.

girls and women you are going the wrong way...

i would advise not to tar us all with the same brutsh.. i, for one, prefer books and theatre and i am sure i am not alone x

This thread is starting to smell funny

time to our honor back, guys!

#get...

Well I'm about to move to Geneva and I'm excited to see and experience the city. I hope I get to meet nice and fun people from all sorts of backgrounds, of course it will be different for me because, unlike Mark, I'm coming from a very small country and city as well, but I definitely think attitude makes the difference!

And yeah, I believe glocals can help you start, and it's a great way to interact with new people. I'm not even there yet and I have already gotten many friend requests and been asked to chat many times, yeah, mostly men haha, but so far they've been nice, and have given me some tips on apartment hunting or general info.

After reading all these comments, I'm only worried about the weather, shops closing too early and on sundays (I experienced that in Berlin and it shocked me too) and the snobby atmosphere someone wrote about.

Mark: hope you get to experience the fun single life you want! just relax :)

.... experience the fun single life you want, just relax :)

i reiterate the women to men ratio is 3:1 so even if our intrepid future glocal member from NY looks like Shrek he will be in with a fighting chance to get into the dating scene fast enough.

nuff said.

Guys, I have a suggestion for you all: come to Zürich! :-)

The city is GREAT, especially for singles ;-)

Ok as someone who has travelled all his life, lived in 20 different countries, been to school in 8 different countries, had 4 different accents over time, has experienced the Biggest cities in the world where you can live next to someone for 3 years and not even awknowledgel their presence, This little city we live in has is bad points, sure, but it also has a multitude of good points.

As Non locals, whether youre here for a short time, or like me have decided to make this place home (now 10yrs in CH) you will only enjoy this city if you open your eyes and look around you, put up with the local tendancies and traditions, and make a bloody effort to mix and enjoy.

Its called Geneva, because it is not NY London LA or Paris. It has its own character, and exactly the same as if you were dating a girl, its up to you to find out the character and decide if you enjoy it here or not.

Here you can have a drinks party or dinner party and have 18 nationalities speaking 18 different mother tongues.... you can mix with diplomats, bankers, IT pros, pharma pros and scientists and all get along, the only barrier to making friends is yourself and your inhibitions.

Calling people snobs because they want to drop 2000bucks in a club... well its the same as them calling you a pikey because you wont... go with the flow, enjoy the party and work hard. Itll all be fine, its a VERY rich city, not just in terms of wealthy people , but also in terms of culture, people and expereince.

If you come here with closed eyes, have preconditions set in your head about women, city , culture etc then you will fail and be back in NY within 12 mths.

As to some other comments about weather... its been a great summer between 27 and 35 degrees every day for a month. We have a lake of 74sq KM on our doorstep that is 22degrees water temp.... for swimming and sailing etc....the winter needs to be tough...because then you get snow, and you can party alot in the mountains.

Enjoyment of life is a state of mind, if you worry too much about it it hinders you, if you relax , smile at people and open your mind, then you'll have as much fun as in soho on a saturday.

So is anybody making a list of these actively single girls for umm... statistical reasons? ;)

haha that's not a bad idea... i wish i had known there were that many single men.. wonder where they hide

In the strip clubs, where else?! :p

ah yes, silly me.... can't believe i had to ask that..

hehheeeee! So the "July Anti-Dating" - movement was no joke...

HI Mark,

if you can stay, stay in NYC!!!!! Geneva is a hard place for single people!!! and it is very boring! village. real expensive village! same people, same events, same everything. i am not a bad looking girl and have not been on a date for a year...it says a lot, doesn;t it?! 

Yeah I'm looking at your picture and don't understand why you can't get any :D

   That's precisely what I feel.. And you know what? I am leaving! And I am finally happy!

Are you guys crazy?!!!!

Katia, I am sure you are a good looking girl (even though your chicken picture doesn't tell much).

But if you tell guys to stay away, like you just did to Mark, then it will be difficult to date.

Anyway, I reiterate: if dating is so difficult in Geneva, you guys come to Zürich!

:-)

changed the picture ))

agree Zurich is much better. ive lived there for 2 years. geneva is too french....:( sorry guys, it just can not be compared to any big city with interesting social life, you can not argue with that...

Katia

kto eta tvoya problem?

its not hard when you have a mind that is open to the world around you.

open your eyes and you will see. keep optimistic :-)

Yes!

Moment of truth...

Yeah, she's not bad ;)

definitely cute... :)

see Katia how easily a picture brings the cookie monsters out to play... now you have at least 2 who will give you conversation and a drink.... 

I volunteer to:

1. Take Katia on a date.

2. Report back to Glocals the reasons why she isn't getting any dates.

Public service, of course.

By the way that's 2009. don't you have a newer one?!? LOL

Catalin youre gonna go blind squinting at pictures so hard LMAO....

competition opened : who will be Lyndsey and Katia fist date? ;-)

Richard love the motto on your profile !! LOL ! 

I prefer that to other possible reasons ;)

 from one year in the wilderness to a bunch of guys fighting over them in the space of seconds (or picture download time)...

Classic comedy at its best. Isnt Glocals just great!

badabing... 

Patrick if you're in we stand no chance. You're just too strong ;)

Better hold on you your seat...

The expression "opening a can of eels" comes to mind.

Im out for the day... catch yawl tomorrow. Thirsty now.

I Love the humour in the Glocals Groups !! 

thank you guys. you all made me smile!

i am out as well. Richard, you are very kind, id love to go on a date with you :)

So many single guys desperately looking for a date. Isnt Geneva just great! 

Of course you would. Have fun kids!

What do you think if we organize a Glocal Single Party? :)

aww im losing.... sucks

After reading some posts of some guys, it is not wonder they are not getting any dates -- who wants to hear all that negativity? Especially "if you want to get depressed join the club..."

Wow, some people are in need of a shrink, not a date!

I do not recall reading so much bitterness -- perhaps, I should reconsider Geneva and go back to New York City myself. Just joking - I am not a quitter!

Geoffrey, i am trying to organise that...

Definitely agreeing with you. Negative every day life is such a buzz kill... 

I don't think it's about quitting but about adapting and making some new friends.

The friends back home that are really good quality friends will remain friends despite of the distance. 

Have a great evening everyone ! 

There is a group for that 

http://www.glocals.com/#/groups/geneva/geneva-singles.htm

Nice idea ! 

Looking forward to see the wine bar you work in as well ! Never been to a wine bar here in Geneva. 

yeah its a nice wee wine bar.. very chilled and quite quiet x

so many good jokes, I'm laughing so hard ... NOT  

A lot of noise but at the end Richard is the Man.

Vitaly, I have the opposite problem.  I'm struggling with how to make room in my schedule. 

You know, Richard, it isn't good actually. Being truly successful in a dating you should normaly do it only once ;)

...and forever :)

Touché!

My success can be measured with a slightly different metric, however.

put some pics as a profile pics, some sexy one, u will have more feed-back

Hahaha this thread is hilarious! I actually laughed out loud as I was scrolling.

And Mark, no worries! =) I've been here just a week and I've been asked out multiple times already- and honestly, I am only average-looking, with kind of a weird personality anyway. I think it's really just about putting yourself out there, go where there are people. Trust me on this, Geneva does have a great nightlife (different from NYC, Seoul, Miami but still great) and for people who disagree, maybe they just haven't figured out where the party is yet haha. Good luck!

And lyndsey! singles night in a wine bar? that sounds awesome chica. count me in

I am in too

I dont know anything about geneva, but I can confirm that in Lausanne everyone were single. I only know that in Hungary hard to be single :-)

Let me recommend some cool place and program. All my foreign friend got addicted to Hungary after these places:

Sziget (island festival) in Budapest (capital). Perfect place to loose virginity. (But I guess we r too old for that). The biggest festival in EU.

http://www.sziget.hu/festival_english

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9eKWXV95RM&feature=related

Look at carefuly, u can notice the swiss flag there. There is a separate huge french tent also with their own musik, DJ, etc...

Im gonna be there, if u need guidance let me know.

Capital, Budapest is also very nice, we have many open air club in the summer.Friday and Saturday night are very bussy always.

Another very nice place, is Siófok next to Lake Balaton. This city is full with young ppl in the summer and there is party 0-24 hours. Coca cola beach house is awesome, plus hundreds of clubs on the main walking street. Females have always free entrance for guys 5-10 EU, but most of the places free for them, too.

Some link at day and at night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4tY18I9bWc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBcB-Yn6dcs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTjIM-bs3TU&feature=related

Do you have something like this next to lake Geneva? I would love to visit that.

Gotta go to sleep, im going to go tomorrow to Lake Balaton. Bye

Agree that Richard nailed it, but your pic of you leg humping jonny wilkinson is another matter altogether.... LOL....  theres a joke in there somewhere, but in favour of the politically correct crowd Im not gonna go there...

ochin horosho Vitaly... and they said "romance was dead"... not in your case.

Although in Richards favour, he is simply doing a natural act, like lions on the savannah...humping everything that stands still long enough. Nature/instincts memory is longer than our own monogamous rules.

 N000000000000000000000000 dont go....

if anything let the boys go....

Im sure we can fit you into Richards diary... patience is a virtue ;-)

where are your pics?

No one is coming all the way to Hungarian lakes  to dance with a chicken :-) 

yes great idea...

Ok then guys and gals... time to put your words into action.... i'm thinking singles night in my work (the bar job... not the UN one :P )

when works best people? give me dates and lets give cupid a kick up the ass x

But if you organize it then you would be working again, and not dating ;) How's Scotland? :)

good point, however, they may give me a rare night off and at least that way i can bag us all some comfy couches and i can control the music and not my boss :p

Yeah it's good... cold and raining but back to Geneva on Sunday after graduation.. yay

good idea lyndsey

lyndsey- friday night! this wk or next! your wonderful brainchild should not delay a day longer than that!

Great idea Lyndsey. Sign me up for a cool, fun night in your bar!

To give my input on the topic: It all depends on how you look at it. Attitude is key. Thanks to all the previous posters who mentioned that dynamic, as you've hit the nail on the head. Nobody likes Debbie Downer. So if you're a Debbie Downer, you will be down like a clown in Chinatown (in Geneva).

But if you are upbeat, positive, all about having fun and relaxing with fun people, you will find that the city and its people will open up to you in ways you've never experienced before.

I have been in few glocals drink I have met some people who are effectively coming for networking purposes, however regarding the others... they are clearly coming for dating purposes.

I am really tired to listen this people, they are trying to provide a good picture of them by saying I am participated to the glocal events only to meet new people, just cos they are too scared to tell the truth lol.

I am very happy to heard, there may be an event for them :)

Ok guys.... date night is going to be Friday 23rd July ... i will confirm this with my boss once im back in Geneva...

we are a wine bar but good beer too, shame about the staff :p

i will try and make it as chilled out as possible (ah the pressure!)

Lynds x

Just FYI thats the same night as the "7 Sins Party"...  so maybe see some of you "love birds"   later on at the dance.

Have fun all, and note for Mark F.... I think this thread has proven that life in Gve is not so bad after all.

Sign the contract and book the flight!

me ..out.

7 sins??/ sounds good.. where are the details?

http://www.glocals.com/#/things-to-do/geneva/27990.htm

LOL, I do have an abundant life.  I also have high standards.  These things are not mutually exclusive. 

Actually, I was referring to  life in Geneva in general, not just for singles  or married. One creates one's reality -- it can be fun or can be boring as hell.

Also, as for Richard's schedule, I have to check my own as it is pretty much filled till the end of my stay in Geneva LOL

I have a rather different impression of Geneva -- there are certainly more men here than women. Men are everywhere and all of them want to talk to you: "Salut" here, "ca va" there... Take your pick!

I think you mixed up the statistics -- there are 3 or rather 10  men for every woman in this town.

I have a rather different impression of Geneva -- there are certainly more men here than women. Men are everywhere and all of them want to talk to you: "Salut" here, "ca va" there... Take your pick!

I think you mixed up the statistics -- there are 3 or rather 10  men for every woman in this town.

Or maybe they all want to talk to *you* ;)

Tate,

I took my stats from the paper, and they were re quoted somewhere around here as well.

Although at some parties I have attended i would agree that there would be an appearance of an abundance of men, which is a shame since Im not into sausage festivals... but no doubt good for the single ladies here.

Anyway, for me there is enough eye candy to go round, and its not hard to talk to people here, everyone is much more open than in nthrn Europe.

actually Wiki quotes 1/1.01...so youre pretty right... my bad...sorry...

10 men for every woman, you said, Leon???

wooooooow!!!

Depends on your circle..

I have it on good authority (multple), that some organizations in GE do, in fact, possess the much-sought-after and legendary 10:1-ratio..

Unfortunately, you don't have it from me... ;)

I have a rather different impression of Geneva -- there are certainly more men here than women. Men are everywhere and all of them want to talk to you: "Salut" here, "ca va" there... Take your pick!

I think you mixed up the statistics -- there are 3 or rather 10  men for every woman in this town.

Sorry for several posts-- computer at my Universtiy was "loading" while posting multiple replies:(

yay...triple post... sticky buttons Tate? .-)

How long is your stay? Years months or weeks?

No, a female friend of mine has a similar impression.

Charlie,

It is about quality, not quantity:)

As for talking to people, you are right, people are very friendly here.

Stats are nice, and choice is nice, but the ultimate goal is to reach the most compatible 1:1 ratio and leave these threads for other people, isn't it? :)

Oh dont worry...quality is what I mean... always quality.

spot on...although the banter is funny at times.

Oh my goodness how exciting! :-) I came from a town where women outnumbered men 8 to 1. Ask me out directly gentlemen :-) lol

open your eyes :p

you really should... look at the beautiful, clever women who have commented here looking for nice, stable men...

let the dating games begin...

Don't do it.  I'm from NYC and I am totally homesick after two months.  Language is a big problem (unless you speak French).  But then again, it could just be Lausanne...

Ke come visit Geneva, let us change your perceptions.. x

Yes Ke you should come to Geneva, I can teach you a couple of usefull french expressions .

yea I had the same impression

I think it depends where you were before.  Me: 22 years mostly in Eastbourne ( UK ) and 18 months in Le Sentier CH

Lausanne has been quite fun in the 2.5 years i've been here.  Then again i'm probably mad.

I would like to remind all the ladies in pursuit that this is NOT a dating site ;)

Besides, nobody here is a zoofileP :D

Don't dash our hopes, the purpose of this site is to ascertain certain points about Geneva.. some folk want banking advice, some dating,., each to their own

:p

catalin.

pls enlighten me to what in the name of hell a "zoofilep" is?

(you never know...I might be one, and if so would like to find out)

Tal buddy... it occurred to me that most mens "holy grail" of horizontal bedroom jogging is a man to women ratio of 1:2.

Example I was out on Saturday, suprise suprise, and there were two girls grinding / dancing with each other by the dance floor.

If I had a camera it would have impressed even the most patient wildlife photographers, since almost every man in the club had at that very moment exactly the same position as a band of meercats on look out, frozen solid, standing on tip toes and all looking in the one direction....

Of course I took the opportunity of having easy access to the bar to get myself another drink. :-)

Ke

lausanne is renowned for being more "french " than geneva... it has some excellent clubs though, and boat parties, and if you can get by with sign language and smiles its worth trying to experience it.

Wise man buddy!

It's zoophile with a typo LOL. I hope you are not one though.

i had to google it

No, however much my labrador might like it, im not....

Yup, I'm starting to understand what the ladies here are complaining about...

Just kidding, Charlie, party on :)

Out of professional and educational curiosity..of course...which town are you talking about?

and finally...does Easy jet fly there from Geneva?

slainte

Ch

Zurich more fun than geneva? HAHAHA Zurich is even more depressing, more robotic, more claustrophobic!

if you have a hard time meeting people in chaotic, not so perfect filled with foreigners that try to befriend other foreigners Geneva, imagine trying to find one in disneyland, sanitized, over ruled, a bit xenophobic, very but very swiss german zurich!

Dating is hard, finding the right person is hard, in Switzerland (not only geneva) is even harder.

can only assume youre changing your picture... Im Irish and I always expect the unexpected ;-)

This better make me laugh or youre buying on the 23rd!

Hi im here during 5 years and for dating its very, very dificult to find a right person, Gve is a lovely city but the people are very individualist and bored ;)

mefran, Im sorry for you that you have such trouble... do you attend many of the Glocals / Sindy events? Its a sure fire way of meeting people, also with the fete de geneve starting its also an opportunity to mix it up.

I wish you luck in your search, and be more positive. Did you try the Latin dance clubs or such like? Quite often people feel its easier to mix at first with others who have the same interests or culture... it cuts down on the "boredom factor" quite a bit. Having nothing in common is a big reason for people to quickly be bored with each other.... and thats the end already.

good luck

thanks CHARLIE and good luck too

It's a jungle out there

yes its true jajajajajajajajaja

don't afraid the mens to come to geneva if the ratio is really 10 for 1.. we need to equilibrate this asap!

Yes realy the men are afraid !!!!

We are a lot than the men jajajajajajajaa

Thase people were right.

If I would describe Geneva with one word - it would be word 'loneliness'.

Loneliness as dense that it can be cut with a knife.

hahah that was obviously a joke on my part , lighten up :-)

I am leaving too. Just 106 days to be wasted here.

Some people on this are making me feel depressed with 2 lines of words...no wonder you aren't happy with this place with that kind of attitude!

As for the others keep having fun.  I know I am! Peace. xx