Yep... we're all midgets here with over sized penises....

Happy for you! Thought size doesn't matter...

Sorry, correction: Happy for you! Though size doesn't matter

Yes you are in the wrong country.  

Sorry Maaike.

I am going to a country of midgets...!? will I be a giant too?!

Try going horizontal and you'll find most men are about the same height as you, give or take a few obstructions . . . .  and no, one does not fit all !

The Swiss might have some other issues compared to the Dutch as well.

According to statistics, short men are best lovers

but it's true, swiss men are not very tall. with heels i've got the same height as you and looking top-down, muahahaha

You beat me to it!

Ugh!

There are tall ones, you just have to look for them.. ;)

...should I conclude the swiss people are extremely tall?!

Maybe you have been wearing stilts. My personal experience (being 1.93) shows then Swiss Men tend to be European average regarding height. Yes, Germans may be slightly taller and same for the nordics. But then again southern Europe tends to be significantly shorter than my swiss friends (wheter they are born here, or expats).

But maybe that's just the case in Geneva.

Happy Weekend everyone!!!

Kiss me, I am Irish....

you didnt see me yet, but i mnot suisee heheh

Aren't there any semi-pro basketball players in your area? Oh, wait, most of those guys will be American...

If I remember correctly, there was a Canadian woman here in Geneva posing the same question. I think the way she put it was, "where are the men with throwdown?"  

mmmhhh...southern europeans tend to be shorter...

Is Italy above the Artic circle?! ...when i lie down I am 2m long.

free mind

seems to be preety tall. well still i consider myself at the bottom of the midgets. i am 5¨6. and most of the girls are above this value. 

yes, those that are, are always that short. Except for young ones, they tend to grow.

;-)))

that ";-))" was addressed to someone feeling very tall. ;-)

no, seriously. if the size of people make you feel you're in the wrong country, I believe you really might not feel home here. or anywhere else in the world. cause you get all shapes and sizes all over the world, not only here in Switzerland. I know that it's annoying to be tall, but hey, there are worse things, right? :-)

...actually it is not annying at all.

I feel the people sitting behind me in a movie theater are much more annoyed...:)

well, you're man. of course it's not annoying for you ;-) and I don't like to sit in the theatre like a banane so that the people behind me can see something.;-)

I know what you mean, being Dutch, 6.4ft and an advantage with a certain bodypart over the average Swiss size, got me stressed out being hunted by tall women around the lake. Now I'm happy I found some peace and quiet up in my mountain village.

I have no issues in theatres, I sit as I wish and others stay quiet, you never know, I might just stand up...  ;)

While obesity has tripled in many Western European countries since the 1980s, the Dutch keep growing upwards. The average height is now 6 feet 1 inch for Dutch men and 5 feet 7 inches for Dutch women. So why are the Dutch so tall? Theories abound. An often-heard argument is the Dutch love of dairy and their protein-rich diet, but there are also serious studies that look at height differences, and the Dutch pop up time and again in many of them.

The most convincing argument for why the Dutch have grown so tall so recently was put forward by J.W. Drukker, a professor of economic history at the University of Groningen. His studies revealed that the Dutch growth spurt of the mid-19th century coincided with the establishment of the first liberal democracy. Before this time, Holland had grown rich off its colonies but the wealth had stayed in the hands of the elite. After this time, the wealth began to trickle down to all levels of society, the average income went up and so did the height.

Since then, the gap between the rich and poor in Holland has remained relatively narrow, and the country now has some of the best pre- and postnatal care in the world. This is in direct contrast to America, for example, where the population, once more than 3 inches taller than the average Dutchman, has not increased in height for 25 years.

There are now a enough Dutch people who are taller than the average height to warrant the founding of Klub Lange Mensen (Tall Person’s Club) to protect their interests. In order to become a member, men have to be taller than 6 feet 3 inches and women 5 feet 11 inches.

1.85 is safely abover the avarage in most countries. It's no secret that Dutch are one of the tallest.

Er, um... what are their interests?

Maybe we could ask Glocals to include a box for "HEIGHT" so that we all know how tall each other is  . . . .  where the for the rest of us we enter our height in CM or Ft+Inches and for those from Holland  . . . well they just enter "Dutch"

@Nir -> any comments ?

apparently theres a tall club in Zurich, but they wont let me in im a dwarf..

i m happy being who i am... and yes as a man i think size doesnt matter :-)

To make companies consider tall people in all aspects. Leg space, clothes sizes etc.

Dude, I was setting you up to make a joke of some kind....

Towards ladies I tend to answer politely ; )

so true....

Ahaha! Maaike, it's sort of funny! I am 1m80 (only) and everybody tells me to go to Netherlands. :)

I'm 180cm and I always feel short in NL.  I'm eye-to-eye with the women and I look up at the men.  Knowing that I'm "below average" treads on my delicate ego.

To be honest since I am in Geneva it's the first time I don't feel small but normal

La grandeur d'un homme dépends-t-elle de sa taille ?

Un Suisse qui passait par là....

Correction: Un petit suisse qui passait par là

Have a nice w-e !

lol..hilarious

Tanks  ... read at the second degree, have a sense of humor, is always important !

Bye !

I think I need to move to Netherlands

The Swiss don't need to try and keep their heads above the water. 

@Maaike: YES! You are wrong in this country and you are wrong in most countries of the world. Don't even dare visiting mediterranean countries or try even thinking of making a trip to Asia!

you sure about that ?

you sure about that??

That's what you think  Keep on dreaming!!!

Actually they are not so small, but you are above the norm for a lady. I think you should hang out at Basketball areas .....

In any case you could try Russians and Scandinavians... Happy Hunting!

the only advice i can give you is visit this party: www.ue178.ch

it's definitely the right place for you!! :-)

most are quite short....but the tall ones seem to appear in the financial district....;)

what some of us lack in height we make up for in character....

the rest is just aesthetics..........

I always dreamed of having a catwalk height. But obviously it's not paradise either....

I am here already one and half year and  I have met only about 10-20 men who are taller than me,so it's boring when u are going to the club, it's not fun to dance with a small guys. In Latvia I  could meet  2m tall guys on the street every day! : D

Thank God Geneva is international and despite the tall nordic ladies (who might be beautyful but a bit a little bit fed up) there are plenty of women who DO NOT want a tall guys because they LIKE men whith a normal height.

Good news guys: size is relative and there are plenty of gals out there who are attracted to you exactly as you are. 

Let's become real....


 

 

There is nothing wrong in hoping to find a man your size. Like some men want ladies with big breast or small derriere or viceversa...Personally speaking I would find it uncomfortable to be with a man shorter than me, having said that we very seldom end up with our ideal mate *smile*

mmm, pro's and cons to both sides of this argument methinks...

Yes, following the orders of the shorter Swiss men ;)

Good one!!

I am a bit unsure if  my message Good one went to right person..I meant it for Translator....

Tonton....I may be blonde but I do not understand the sentence..I would have thought they were happy if they didn't feel the rain, or is it sarcastic..or maybe this comes from times in which rain was good for crops?

plus blue eyes, svp

What would Freud have to say to you ;-)

And some of the tall Swiss Catholic men get to wear these snazzy outfits...

Thanks, very interesting but I still prefer other nationalities with other outfits...hahah

Ohh I get that, but why would he be unhappy? Anyway..it is just French homour, I understand...thanks

yes, what?

Yes, what would Freud say?

Here's one for you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zyEjZdGFxk

My men in uniforms... 

I prefer these kinda outfits

Most psychiatrists will, as a practical matter, treat most of their severely narcissistic patients for symptoms related to crises and relatively external Axis I diagnoses, rather than in an effort to address the personality disorder itself. The therapist must be aware of the importance of narcissism to the contiguity of the patient's psyche, refrain from confronting the need for self-aggrandizement, and help the patient use his or her narcissistic characteristics to reconstitute an intact self-image. Positive transference and therapeutic alliance should not be relied upon, since the patient may not be able to acknowledge the real humanness of the therapist but may have to see him/her as either superhuman or devalued.

Those patients who do not terminate treatment after symptom relief has been obtained may wish help for some of the problems related to their personality disorder, such as interpersonal difficulties or depression. The therapist must have a good understanding of the principles of the narcissistic personality style, both for interpretation to the patient and for use in combating countertransference. Goals for ordinary psychotherapy should not be too great, since the source of these patients' difficulties lies deep in pathological development.

Here are some short men in uniform...and trust me , theyre clearly very "special".... ha ha ha ha

So it is just a matter of a narcissistic personality style?

No ofcourse not, I don't even know the person involved.

But it is interesting that there is so much written about short and tall people, and the consequences it has on their own self esteem, both possitive as negative.

And I would not catagorize narcissisme a style ;-)

except when you are Christian Bale.

David: don't flatter yourself, no one banned you from posting pics. You probably just had an error or something. Try again. 

He he hee, I am sure size does matter. Sorry, girl, depend on whch one...

Hey Thomas,

Ilogical theory I will say. You might want to tell me why my son who is yet to be 16 years old is already 192 cm tall while I the father, I am only 173 cm and his mother is only 170 cm tall. And a hint for your analysis, I was not born poor...

Cheers! Bola

There goes the right thinker... Good one man!

Bola

I guess your wife is a great cook who knows how to make a healthy meal.

In the US they are also not starving, but it also depends on WHAT you eat. I bet you've been to the pizza hut too often when you were young ;)

And how did you get your blonde, Spanish colour...

Unfortunately there was no pizza in the city where I was born and bread. Well, one thing is true though, from my own siblings, the height went in steps. The youngest is 188cm tall, while my eldest brother is just 165. Ha ha haa . So, your theory is still not correct. We were fed the same kinds of food.

Where are the medical doctors ???

And hey, I have no wife...

LOOOOOOL ! Well at least your humongous and, might I add, thoroughly explained height was not enough to stop your sense of humor...hey I get it, if I was chased around the Lake at regular intervals, I'd have to make jokes as well in order as not to cry....it's a big lake.

Guys, have a couple of shots and get over all your size issues…..

Height upwards is not proportional.... according to this research.

Maybe so Charlie but if you have a close look you will see The Netherlands is in the bright green area as where Ireland is showing up in pink...

Thomas...

Between 2006 and 2008:

Netherlands "average" male height is 184cm

Ireland "average" male height is 177cm

making us both above avarage....

The map has nothing to do with height ;)

But Charlie your height doesnt matter to me, you know I care more about your other qualities!

No comment :|

Just an observation Area in the red =China and India where Men are most productive;-) their birth rate is positive while Dutch and German birth rate is -ve.

Birth rate = rate of growth of population 

I know its dependent on so many factor but still an interesting way to look at it.

Thought you would like this....

I am Dutch and 'only' 5 feet 7. Am I in the right country? Well, I am sure the initial comment was just a joke. I spent 3 years in great relationship with a girl measuring about 6 feet in height. You get used to it and do not even notice it when you sit or lay down. The only thing that bothered my (very seldom) were remarks from others.

Good goods come in small packages...but there again, so does poison

At least they are easier to spot in the crowd!

Wow, this thread gets extra points for drawing Stef_Granny ("SG") into the discussion. For those youngsters who don't know, SG is one of the founding fathers of glocals.com, and one of the first members who helped start it all.

Over the years he gave wise grand-fatherly advice to many glocals members (hence the name "granny"). The last wise advice he gave me was "don't worry, you don't need a condom". 3 years and 2 kids later, I still remember that!!!

Welcome back bro...(-: 

Now, where's Casuistik?  He usually posts some hilarious items....

wowww~~i had no idea height were such a big issue!!lol!!

well im pretty short as im only 160cm but i don't really dislike it...and hence i definitely feel swiss guys are tall!!lol maybe because im short but i know a few that are 190cm and above...so i don't think swiss guys are short...><

I'm swiss and 6 foot 5 (1.96m) guess there is an exeption in geneva as i am here.

In my world  every one is shorter than me.

Oh yes!.... I dont lose him easily ;)

The size of your d...og? wallet? Car? Stamp collection? 

This is looking more heated as we go on....will it become a dating thread?

This is better than parship

you know what they say about men with big feet?

big socks

which basically means nothing ...

I know all about Dutch being tall,however i dont think the swiss are short

a friend of mine has a swiss husband who is 2 meter tall

I have not done statistics but i have heard that height varies according

to kanton and so dont go to Appanzeller where the men are supposed

to be small if you dont like that

I think that there are more important things than height but if you like

to dance tango i can understand that...

I think if you go to Italy you will discover that what short men lack in height

they make for in other ways.. ( great coffee, what else )

All of the above sweetheart except stamp/coin collection...

Cheers!

OMG this is so great !!! All these answers from you.. Found also some information on http://community.justlanded.com/en/Switzerland/forum but beside my height I think I will stay in Switzerland!

:)

Very interesting. Thanks for the info guys...   I'm off' shopping' hahaha, kidding!  But it might come in useful for the other females

...erm...silly question but of DUTCH origin perhaps...? Dutch, height...same conv...

try http://www.internations.org/    for a few more possible TALL candidates....

Ahh the Afrikaaners are here, its all Dutch to me....a stukkend saltpiel huh...I shouldnt wonder...

To Maaike Dustbusters - I think you are somewhat insentive to short people, I mean how could a girl like you not like a guy like this . . . . .

"Yah! Pretty Neat" - as he says at the end! Thanks for posting - loved it :-)

i like the way u look

grazie Caro

i am 170 cm,but with high heels i often feel like a gigantic woman here. swiss man are short. :(

At least after this post you will receive a bunch of invitations from tall...er... and good intentioned men ;)

hahah... we will see,we will see. :D

Dear Eva,

I am 194 cm, and my intentions for you are pure: I just want to meet and read poetry together. Will you accept?

Nir

Well intentioned rules you out Catalin..

Absolutely.

this is exactly why i don't spend too much time on this page. :p

I concur with Nir that he is tall, But as to his poetry ability...and his purity... i refer you to an episode of " Blackadder".... and draw your own conclusions as to how Nir will juggle his normal life with that which he wants to portray to you... one puritanical, and the other his day to day shennanigans...

Just went to the doctor yesterday apparently i'm not 1,96m as i thought i was but in fact i'm 1.98m.

Getting taller as i get older isn't that great.

To Eva U. sorry to say this but 1,70m for a woman isn't that tall. 

Indeed, 170cm is a perfect height for a lady - you can wear heels and look sensational!!!!!  I, however, am seriously going to struggle in Geneva - I'm a hiiiuuuge 190cm! I am usually taller than everyone in the room, wherever I am, and Geneva will be no exception I'm sure!  Oh well - it's me and I like it! x 

and I'm a girly girl, but doesn't make much difference! 

WFT are you guys all eating... 1.90m...christ, thats some serious growth hormones....????

what is everyone doing replying at this time and with such wonderful weather???? Out you go....

www.klm-schweiz.ch  

Try  this  club   and  create  a section  in geneva

or move  to zurich ...

Have a nice weekend 

guess what, I am short.. so short that I have to ask ppl not to step on me! Have you ever had that problem? Guess not, so be happy and if u feel ur in wrong place take ur bags and hit the road! Btw I am 157cm

I'm 182 cm, I thought I was slightly tall, ouch!

http://vodpod.com/watch/722345-skee-lo-i-wish-i-was-a-little-bit-taller

Better to stay small than take steroids =)

Ohhh men this forum is getting better and better... Can you do me favour guys... I posted the same question here http://community.justlanded.com/en/Switzerland/forum/Guys-are-too-short-in-1 but nobody reacted.. Does this mean people agree with this fact? Show them its not, please! :)

Hayes... Gotta be.

I was six feet tall before I came here.  Now I am apparently 1.82 so I suppose I am now short

It's the cheese.

LOL. One of my Dutch friends once thought that he was walking on the side-walk while he was in Geneva because he could see over everybody. So funny!

It's because they are full of water from putting fingers in dams, (just like the ham).

Not always short on cash however.

Would you rather have a short man who'll Go Dutch, r a tall one who won't? 

Cheesey reply! Or let me be brie(f).

3 years and 2 kids later ? Seems to me you've followed Granny's advice for the first one... But what about the second one ? Another Granny's advice on how to use condoms ? :-O

just an invers experiences. tall ppl much more in gva then paris, i m 186cm tho. a guy 2.1m crossed by yesterday,scared  ^^''

Maybe we crossed...?!

I'm a total sucker for tall, handsome, men.. dated a 1.98 totally-proportional-guy for a few years and after we split I must confess it became extremely difficult for me to even consider dating shorter men.. call me spoiled but yes, you can become like that after something so good and hard to top!

but enough with the self-pity...

This thread is about why men are shorter in Switzerland?

I would blame it on the mountains.. who agrees?

What a volcanic consideration

Yeah!!! Isn't it? 

Interesting topic, because I have the same problem - I´m 180 and very often when I travel I´m one of the tallest. For example now I´m in Georgia and when I travel by minibuses and they are full of people, I have problem to stand inside :)

lava'ly...

be happy what you are ...tall short doesn't matter.

I don't care you like me or not...important thing that such thing never troubls you.

by the end none of you girls and guys has done any thing to get tall or short so none of you should show of about it.

have fun

Maybe the taller members of Glocals can arrange a "dwarf throwing contest"  using the more "vertically challenged" members....

 just an idea...

(Im guessing there would be a few guys who dont mind a tall girl tossing them)

We better check on the legality first!

Dwarf-Throwing and the UN:
The Shape of Things To Come by ALEXANDER COCKBURN

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn1009.html

Though not vertically challenged I'd be prepared to get down on my knees to the women.

to quote post 55. '...get down on my knees to the women'

I always thought it was dykes that they put their fingers in to.

Hmmmm. Excuse me Maam. Do you play basket ball?

- No. I play minature golf.

(Wait a moment whilst enjoying puzzled expression, and realisation that they have asked a reallllly stupid question. . .  then dart off, or, if they are really overweight, ask them if them if they have a problem with overeating, then dart off.

Last week at Glocals doo in Vodkafe, a man thought I was a trannie, as I am 6ft three. and a half. And I have big hands. Though he duly noted I did not have an adams apple. When all that was cleared up, he asked me over to his house for dinner, but said he wouldn't suck my cock. I replied, 'likewise'. He called me a spoilsport, I called him a wanker.  And he wasn't even short! Think I might move to Dutchland.

Unfortunately when clicking on the youtube link I am informed that it is unavailable in my country.  Don't know whether that means la suisse or Canada where my computer comes from.  Will try to find another way to access the video.  Thanks.

Mark (only 1.82 m but expanding horizontally :-)

Still(etto) no success at youtube but glad to see there are solutions to the problems of tall women.

And how 'bout short people?  Charlei? :-)

Advantages (vantage points) and disadvantages of too big to fail. :-)

Glad people are having fun

I dont know what statistics say 

All i can think of is Napoleone , but i am sure there are other exemples for the fact that size does not matter ( at least in height) 

I think short men have a more difficult time than tall and i dont know why

because i think someone should give them a break

I think if you walk into a room and divide the men into short and tall

then you are missing a Napoleone or a sarkozy for that matter ...

i am sure we can all think of short men who are worthy of  our time

I personnaly believe it is rather a good thing to miss out a Napoleon or a Sarkozy but I would have been mortified to miss out a Charlie Chaplin.

Now you got me thinking:  how do I divide the men when I walk into a room????mmmmmmm !!  :-)

Ladies:

If any of you like tall men, with shaved heads & broad shoulders, then I'm right here.

If any of you like short stocky guys with huge calf muscles, then Charlie is right here.

So what ever is your preference, we got you covered!

Nir

im not so short matey 178 (ish)... but i guess do have big calves and thighs, its a rugby thing... and when did I show you them last, im not remembering? (as usual)...

Im a reformed dwarf thrower, after having been told on here that its not "pc" to lob 1meter high smurfs into hedges....

dix points for originality....

I work next to the airport, somehow some websites think it's based in France... Can't recall I ever cross the border when going to work but explains it or my company decided to tap internet illegally from a company across the border in this time of crisis..

I prefer shaved shoulders with muscles (not proteine grown but from real work)

I know Nir: You are a muscleman (I remember you left the Holmes Place spinning class as it was too boring while everybody was half dead)

Speaking of shoulders.... Where does one buy dumbells around here?  I've never seen them in any Swiss sport shops...

protein shakes ....pah... whats wrong with some good old fashioned press ups.

Btw Buddy...dont go round advertising you slurp protein.... we will get the wrong idea..

http://www.askmen.com/dating/dzimmer_100/117b_love_answers.html

Manor sports and fitness section....

www.decathlon.fr

As if I had nothing more useful to do on a Friday night (I was going to do my paperwork) :

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/taller-people-are-happier-especially-if-theyre-male/ 

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/05/12/do-we-want-to-be-supersize-humans/we-wont-become-giants-2

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-height-increase-slows-768857.html

All the Dutch I know are above- average tall.

Apart from that this is a dumb thread!

we are all the same height horizontally

It's interesting: There are currently two big threads about men being inadequate (height, emotional support...). Both discussions were initiated by women (are we never satisfied?)

Ok guys, go ahead, if you have any questions or concerns about women (size, behaviour....)

All,

Contrary to Rena's encouragment for us to start a male thread about "the inadequance of womem", I ask such a thread is NOT started as our web servers are likely to crash under all the comments that would be posted on such a thread. I alone could fill that thread with at least 10 long stories...(-;

Nir

Your server should be upgraded then....

What was that about "women never satisfied?"  I thought I read something ealier... 

not sure about women in general, but me.. I am never satisfied and always want more then I have. More time, freedom, money (to earn not just been given), work, shoes, love, etc. Nothing makes me happy enough to lay back and enjoy.  From guys I always expect the same I am able to do so I am not soo bad. But for sure I am not worried guys to be too short for me, if I am taller then guy it means he is still a kid because I am a size of a midget.  

Guys should step up and say what they got to say. If women can make fun of guys and birng up all worst sides or sides they dont like. Then men should do the same, we are all equal and have same rights.

No, it was just the logical response to Nir's problem. I tried to think like a man