Democracy will not come by itself should work for it.

We are doing our best, the way is not easy  or "others" make it not easy but has to start from some where, and we are trying hard .......

Really exciting Maged!

http://www.economist.com/node/21555577

"Though no candidate inspires much joy, a fair election will be a great step forward"

Every country has a right to protect it is own border, you do not agree with that !!!

...and what is the "thank you" about?????

are we supposed to feel good that women from both sides are happy to be objects?Personally,I don't think so......Doesn't really make me jump for joy.

Just sad that it has to be ....this.And,no,it's not because they are pretty - but I think anyone who thinks a bit will get exactly what my point is.I thought we got over this stuff about 3 decades ago?

And "non-objectionable" is,well,in the eye of the beholder,isn't it?For some people,the very idea of women being paraded and judged for their physique speaks of a kind of society we thought we had left behind many years ago. 

Buzz, if I understand you correctly, any woman wearing make-up should shut her bloody piehole once and forever: after all, she's artificially trying to enhance her beauty in order to parade herself and therefore sharing the values of the misses. Of course, it doesn't matter what her message may be - she's wearing lipstick.

Ooooh dear.None of these replies are even worth replying to.No point trying to have a discussion,obviously.G'night....

Gentlemen (and Ladies) if I may intervene.....Maged was trying to make a political statement (of hope) for his country's forthcoming elections.  Its a hard time to be Egyptian (or any Arab "Spring" country), making political decisions about your country. 

And having started a discussion about it.....

Casuistik decided to post a picture of two babes, from some Egypt/Israel Beauty Contest - one presumes....in order to signify "world peace" and implying that the Middle East "problem" could be resolved by posting photos of gorgeous chicks..

Buzzcocks took offence that all politics has to come down to, is two hot chicks with their country banners around their necks - not surprisingly..

Maged - I wish you well with your country's elections and I hope that you get everything that you wish for - just be careful what you wish for, my friend, as the saying goes......

Love xox

beautiful women will ALWAYS be objects of beauty... and if they help a process by doing so... then so be it...

Buzz, with all respect.... should women today try and make themselves ugly so as not to conform to stereotypes of the 1970/80/90's or 2000's 0r for that matter any moment in time from the day women first met man to today????

Whats so bad about pretty women???

C'mon ...if war could be averted by babes...jeez I would sign on the line right now, and so would 70% of mankind....

Mmm-know you're too intelligent to be serious  Charr .Methinks you must be pulling my leg?

No place here for any kind of depth of analysis,clearly( I had forgotten that - silly me)

Let's go back to talking about politics,democracy,freedom,equality, etc - examining the place of women in society is not so important ,after all

Got over what? Jeans? 

Jeeezzzz.....missing the point,massively,like all the other guys.No point talking about this ,obviously.A waste of finger tip muscles.....

.I'm outta here.

Not before you and Carolyn dispense the hundred lashes on us for having viewed two humans from either side of a troubled border as OBJECTS!

Btw...do you see you gave us one minute to explain why we thanked the poster? 

Off topic... The discussion has moved on about women in the meantime. Now this on the other hand.. ;)

hey hey hey, the conversion is completely diverted from what I am hoping to hear.

I shared some thoughts with you but some of you would like to diverted to his or her way,

Linda, I was trying to be diplomatic in my reply to you but seem you are a propagative.

I am speaking about EGYPT election and not speaking about International relation of Egypt with other country especially with Israel. This is not the place neither the time to speak about that topics. In plus I am not qualifying enough to go in such historical conflict.

Who is right, Or Who is wrong I think everyone knows.

PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN'T THROW STONES - in other word "Those who are vulnerable should not attack others.

Thanks Shaun and Caryolin

http://gfs.eiu.com/Article.aspx?articleType=wif&articleId=724

"Not long ago, the Economist Intelligence Unit ranked Egypt among its so-called CIVETS (a group that also included Colombia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Turkey and South Africa): effectively a second tier of most promising developing states, after the BRICs.

However, since 2011 Egypt's situation has changed dramatically for the worse, with the latest figures from the central bank highlighting the scale of the economic deterioration.

According to the EIU the political risk remains high. The military has said that it will hand over power to a civilian government at end-June following a presidential election. Revenue from tourism—the second-largest foreign-currency earner (after oil and gas)—has been hit hard by the ongoing political crisis."

For the first time in Egypt, the Egyptian presidential election results which opens Wednesday is uncertain because of the large number of undecided voters and theunprecedented freedom of choice available to voters.

Link to original AFP article, in French.

"This is the first time that the Egyptians elect a president. They used to choose between Mubarak and Mubarak," says Magued Osman, who ran a time the center of government surveys under Mubarak and was minister after his fall.

"Before, there was not much difference in the rhetoric, it's very different now," he said, referring to the candidates' programmes.

I agree with you Shaun keeping in mind that Egyptian exports and Suez Canal revenue might possibly be affected by lower global demand, particularly in the euro zone.

As the EIU put it: "The effects of a recession in the euro zone in 2012 will spread to other regions through the financial markets and the banking system."

You can get a lot of info/comment  from photo as well, i do not have to speak much :)

Hello, Was a lovely day, and so fare everythings is going somth.in THE.

The first competitive presidential election in the Arab world began in Egypt on May 23, the first of two days of voting in the campaign’s first round. A runoff is to follow in mid-June between the top two contenders.

Some 50 million Egyptians are eligible to vote, and of the candidates around four or five are seen as plausible contender

Egyptian women cast their votes in Cairo ,

"It is a genuinely historic moment,"writes Ian Black in Cairo in a curtain-raiser to the poll.

It will be the first time, ever, that the Arab world's most populous country has chosen its leader without knowing in advance who the winner would be.

What I feel to say today that I am so proud to see this  image of million and million of Egyptians voting for first time in the history  (am 30 years first vote in my life ) Egyptians deserve to have better life 

Not such a" dream" now though,surely,with only two candidates and neither of them really appealing to many voters?The choice seems to offer little choice,in fact

buzzcocks, shaun123, carolyn thank you for your comments they are all valuable and productive

I am morocco and as morocco I am following the "arab spring" hopping that thing will be much better in the future but I also know that democracy is a process it needs work and sometimes is painful

It take almost 100 years for french to perfect their democracy after the revolution and a lot of bloody events

Of course this election does not offer as many choices as we would like to but it's a start compare to what was before

W should be positive and a little bit optimist because the process started....

Its not all what it seems to be..

The candidates for Egypt's next president are a Muslim brotherhood or someone from Moubrak's regime, a very difficult choice for people who don't want a relegious state or a come back to a life with no dignity.

Back to the street!

Viva la revolution to the bitter end

What about the democratic momentum?

Short term investment seem reasonable these days and most financing in Egypt is short term anyway given the regulations.