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We are moving to Geneva this summer. My wife will be working at a UN agency there. I understand that I will be eligible to work as I am entitled to a Ci permit as the spouse of an internatonal civil servant. Am I correct in thinking that this would be invalidated if we were to opt to live in France?


I am an EU national, in case this makes any difference.

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We are moving to Geneva this summer. My wife will be working at a UN agency there. I understand that I will be eligible to work as I am entitled to a Ci permit as the spouse of an internatonal civil servant. Am I correct in thinking that this would be invalidated if we were to opt to live in France?


I am an EU national, in case this makes any difference.


Andrew BMay 16, 2013 @ 08:38
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Independently from your wife's job/permit , by being a EU citizen you can come and look for a job and once you get a "contract" they will give you the working permit.  And yes you can live in France and become a "Frontalier"....


 

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Independently from your wife's job/permit , by being a EU citizen you can come and look for a job and once you get a "contract" they will give you the working permit.  And yes you can live in France and become a "Frontalier"....


 


Maria C, May 16, 2013 @ 09:33
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As I understand it (as a dirty frontalier myself), you wouldn't *not* have a work permit, it would simply by a type D rather than a C. I'm no expert though, maybe the D doesn't depend on your spouse's permit type (as in, if both of you were living in France, she'd have a different permit too then, I would think).


You can ask the UN what is the policy - they obviously deal with these types of situations quite often. Or the Geneva municipality.

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As I understand it (as a dirty frontalier myself), you wouldn't *not* have a work permit, it would simply by a type D rather than a C. I'm no expert though, maybe the D doesn't depend on your spouse's permit type (as in, if both of you were living in France, she'd have a different permit too then, I would think).


You can ask the UN what is the policy - they obviously deal with these types of situations quite often. Or the Geneva municipality.


Steve A, May 16, 2013 @ 09:40
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As others have mentioned, as an EU passport holder you have the right to live in either Switzerland or France.  The determining factor may be your tax liability since some international agencies have treaties with France and some don't.  If your wife's employer doesn't, then you would be tax-free in Switzerland but liable for full taxes in France.


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As others have mentioned, as an EU passport holder you have the right to live in either Switzerland or France.  The determining factor may be your tax liability since some international agencies have treaties with France and some don't.  If your wife's employer doesn't, then you would be tax-free in Switzerland but liable for full taxes in France.


Andy


Andy C, May 17, 2013 @ 14:26
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i have a ci permit and yes u can work.....  if you live in france though that might change

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i have a ci permit and yes u can work.....  if you live in france though that might change


andy o, May 17, 2013 @ 20:56
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Hi Andrew,


If you settle in CH you'll get a Ci permit; Andy O confirmed you are allowed to work.


If you settle in FR, you would not get the Ci permit. As EU national, you are allowed to settle in FR, and you are still allowed to work in CH as "frontalier", G permit I think.


As Reka1123 said, CH has activated some quotas in the number of B permits granted to certain EU nationals (EU-8), that could be extenden to the whole EU within a few weeks; those quotas do not seem to be applicable neither to Ci nor to G.


As suggested by Andy C, your tax status may change depending on zou settle, but in any case you should be able to work with the Ci or the G permit.


Pasqual

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Hi Andrew,


If you settle in CH you'll get a Ci permit; Andy O confirmed you are allowed to work.


If you settle in FR, you would not get the Ci permit. As EU national, you are allowed to settle in FR, and you are still allowed to work in CH as "frontalier", G permit I think.


As Reka1123 said, CH has activated some quotas in the number of B permits granted to certain EU nationals (EU-8), that could be extenden to the whole EU within a few weeks; those quotas do not seem to be applicable neither to Ci nor to G.


As suggested by Andy C, your tax status may change depending on zou settle, but in any case you should be able to work with the Ci or the G permit.


Pasqual


Pasqual E, May 18, 2013 @ 10:09
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Thanks everybody. That's very useful. I will of course check with my wife's agency.


I actually don't have a preference for living in either Switzerland or France (yet, at least), but it's good to know that both will be feasible. It sounds like finding a house will be complicated enough in the Geneva area even with all options open.

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Thanks everybody. That's very useful. I will of course check with my wife's agency.


I actually don't have a preference for living in either Switzerland or France (yet, at least), but it's good to know that both will be feasible. It sounds like finding a house will be complicated enough in the Geneva area even with all options open.


Andrew B, May 18, 2013 @ 11:17
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Hi Andrew,


Did you happen to settle in France and get a work permit for Switzerland? We are in the same situation, with me getting a job with the UN in Geneva, and my husband wanting to work in Switzerland, but we want to live in a French border town. I'd love to hear how your situation worked out, and who if anyone, your wife may have spoken to at the UN to get more concrete info on this. It is very tough finding accurate info.


Thank you!


Jennifer


 

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Hi Andrew,


Did you happen to settle in France and get a work permit for Switzerland? We are in the same situation, with me getting a job with the UN in Geneva, and my husband wanting to work in Switzerland, but we want to live in a French border town. I'd love to hear how your situation worked out, and who if anyone, your wife may have spoken to at the UN to get more concrete info on this. It is very tough finding accurate info.


Thank you!


Jennifer


 


jennifer m, Feb 6, 2014 @ 21:02
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