Hi Justin

Interesting point, unfortunately I'm amongst those wo can't afford to spend a lot on a night out or leisure pursuits. 

Having said that, I think that the great thing about glocals is the variety of people, (some with a large disposable income others like myself on a tighter budget) and also the variety of acitivities (many free) where we can all meet regadless of income.

It would be a shame if people started "catering" for specific needs. There is a wide range of interest and income amonst the 30000+ glocals members. There's bound to be things that cater for your tastes and needs and others that don't.

If I really want to attend an event in a place where the drinks cost the equivalent of my weekly supermarket trip I just limit myself to one drink (usually the cheapest) and I make it last...and last... How sad is that? I'm not crying, on the contrary.

Life is rollercoaster, enjoy the ride.

I do care about my spending when going out, but I don't know which Glocals' activities you are talking about.

I attended the musical chairs dinner (70 CHF - including 3 course menu, drinks and lovely posh place :-) ). And I found this very reasonable for such a great event. When you go to a restaurant and afterwards theater or club you will be likely to spend more.

The Glocals beach party was free. And for most events (sports, going out, culture,...) organized by members you only pay what you consume.

So maybe it's a question of how you define "expensive"?

It's easy to say that the intention is "to raise awareness of people organizing activities about the importance (or not) of the cost of their events for the participants".  If you don't find activities you like or if you find only activities at prices you consider being too high, just organize an activity you find OK. Where is the problem?

thanks for your arguments. and I agree with you when you say "it's a question of how you define "expensive". but it's better to let everyone with its understanding of "expensive" and its own arguments, because the question is not about me.

and yes, may be it's easy to say the intention is to ..., but it's that.believe it or not!  

Glocals is cool because it's varieted.

I choose what activities to attend and when to pass.

Not for that I would criticise the prices of activities I decide not to attend to.

After all the 'posh' activities are packed with people. It means that those people like to attend! Who am I to say they shouldn't?

If the prices make you feel uncomfortable, choose cheaper activities (there's plenty) or organise something yourself.

Ciao

S

There is such a wide range of activities offered on glocals, and as an event organizer and attendee I have not come across anything that I find particularly expensive.

Justin, 

What is certainly true is that the definition of 'expensive' changes radically when you are a student 25 y.o. or a 40, 50 y.o. professional on an expact salary + benefits.

In this network you will find activities that will fit all 'target groups' but sometimes not all in the same activity.

I personally enjoy this diversity. Just choose what suits you.

Enjoy!

Stef, thank you for your concern about me. what you said previously goes without saying. but I didn't ask if one agrees with me or not.although I introduced the discussion with my personal experience, I ended up with the question "do YOU...?". so,"expensive" does not refer to my personal income (which by the way, allow me to attend many glocals activities as well).

but to make it clear, "expensive" is according to the market price, as I mentionned. if one doesn't know the market price for a good or service he /she gets in a Glocals'activity, it's better to refer to his / her personal income, as did Legalkitty (I guess). I think it makes it simple.

so again, it's about everyone's opinion. should we have the same opinion!? this world would be very bring

I personally appreciate your sincerity

Tinkie,

How comes you so often over-react to things you interpret upside-down?

I didn't say 'either you like it or go somewhere else'.

I advised on how to get the most and the best out of this network, so rich of different opportunities: defend its diversity in order to be able to cherry-pick what you prefer out of a bigger basket of different activities.

Justine,

My answer was general, not intended at you specificly (even if you are 25 y.o. as in the example I gave), and I wasn't meaning that a 25 y.o. student is usually 'poor' but that (s)he would usually chose different (and cheaper) bars/restaurants/discoteques/etc. than somebody in their 40s or 50s.

That's what I did when I was 25 and I already worked, lived abroad and had a comfortable salary for somebody my age.

To come back to your original question... I don't think the cost of glocals activities is usually above the market.

On the contrary, I have exactly the opposite impression. Comparing similar activities, I think I spend much less for the activities I attend with glocals than for the comparable rest of my social life.

I skip myself activities due to their price, but I'm happy I have the opportunity of choosing whether to do it or not.

I think Justin was seeking opinions for his informal research, at least if i dint get him wrong.

Well, whatever goes on in a subset of society reflects what happens in the society in its entirety. The glocal events really show the Natural Selection law at work.

As most Glocals have said, expensive is very relative and depending on the activity and my own definition i skip the ones which fit my definitions!

Me and my husband once attended Sindy's party in August, I think it was 8th of August, on the plage, it was FREE. As we dont drive we ended up spending CHF 150 on taxi to go and come back as no local transport was going there.

Stef, I prefer Justin, it's mre masculine.

well..., your impression, as you said, is exactly opposite to mine. and without trying to convince you, I'm going to take these examples:

...but let me first apologize to the organizers of these events I'm going to mention. their idea are great, many people seems to like it, including me. I've attended them more than once until now, and I'll maybe continue t attend them...everytime I went to the New-member drink(which had it last meeting yesterday), I was only happy with the fact I met some nice peple. Because, when I think that I spent 8chf for an apple juice, while I could get it for 4 or 5 CHF, in a bar with almost a comparable standing, I feel a bit disappinted. There is a similar event I attended once in Lausanne, and the same story (with a medium glass of red bull Vodka for 20-!). and I could mention most other events organized by admins as well.

now, you might tell me if you are not happy with that, just stay @ home.  Yes, I could, and I sometimes do. but it can't refrain me to mention it in this forum, created for "the review of member activities", unless it means smething else.

once more, I remind this is just an opinion, and if you don't feel comfortable with it, feel free to show me I'm wrong . but don't ban me frm your events

Cheers!

Dhu!

Sorry JustiN!

I would neven ban you and I find the topic you raised interesting.

As you, I added my opinion and gave you my answer.

I payed 330 CHF for a 70 cl. bottle of Absolut Vodka in a disco (not a glocals event. Stupid me not to ask the price before opening it!) and I know you can easily paid much more in other current places around Geneva.

40chf for a drink is high end but rather current.

That's why I say that the prices I usually paid in glocals events don't shock me and are not above the market prices I experience around Geneva.

Bishy,

Expensive indeed, but what have Glocals to do with it?

Tinkie,

I can understand that frustration, and I agree with you: Geneva is expensive!

But that's life, not glocals events. And it can apply whatever your income!

Some time ago, a guy who earns some 500'000 per year + bonuses was telling how shocked he was at seeing the new home/car/private jet of a friend of him who married the heir of one of the richest families in Europe.

But I also know people who would sell their mother to be in your current Genevan shoes.

IMHO doesn't make any sense to get frustrated for what you can't afford (and that's not easy to learn in this kind of consommation society, I agree). 

I prefer Robi's attitude: if he wants to go out, he keeps an eye on the bill and will skip the next one.

As far as I have seen, nobody ever said in this tread "stay at home when you can't afford it".  It would be really sad to learn that people cannot attend activities because of budget reasons. But as already mentioned, most activities are free.

And if there are activities being considered too expense, why not organizing a similar event at lower prices (if possible)? The "cheap drinks" are a great example. Regretting not being able to go somewhere is pretty passive and doesn't change anything. Being active and doing something about things one finds not so good is a much better approach.

Justin: why don't you organise an activity in a place you like? Organisers put a lot of efforts into what they do, and some prefer - for various reasons - certain places. To sit on the PC and criticize them for choosing a place not to your liking is far easier than doing something yourself. Go for it bro - do your own event!

Seperatly, 'll have to delete this thread once it dies down, cos it's posted in the 'Reviews of Member-Activities' forum. 

What Justin is saying is not so bad, he is not criticising, just asking opinions of others about Market Prices VS Glocals Prices. I can give you one example here. I could have attended Glocals Musical Chair party for CHF 70, when I saw the offer I immediately thought that I can go to sunday brunch at Intercontinental Hotel for CHF 70 with my two kids (they dont pay) and enjoy a lot of wonderful food in a nice ambience.

Of course, the preferred ambience for all of us can be very different and your decision to go to a place or not is not going to be solely based on the Price (for some may be Yes).

@Stef_Granny, I didnt mean Glocals had anything to do with it, although I got notification through glocals. All I meant was that sometimes free things are not so free.

Hi Admin! Thanks for your input.

Yes, members (including me) as well as you (Admins) , put a lot of effort in the activities we organize (do I need to ask you to check my profile for activities I organized?).and I acknowledge that I enjoy all of them, including yours, although at different degrees. But once again, it doesn't (and it shouldn't) refrain someone to say in the "review of member activities" forum what went wrong. I always read in this forum positive feedback about member activities, and I even sometimes give mine, positively as well. But like in everything, raising negative points sometimes help more, athought it's never nice to hear. And this is what I'm doing: inviting people to review member activities on a specific issue. That said, I don't understand why this thread will have to be deleted!

Hey J, 

I understand your point about the thread, and will not delete it.

However, this specific forum is meant for reviewing specific activities, not for making general points - which would go in the general forum. 

Let me see if I can quickly get our IT guys to give me an option to move this thread to the 'General Forum'. If I can do that, great. If not, then we'll leave it here. 

Nir

Perhaps your intention is good, but this "adjustment" will kill this thread: not only many (and perhaps even most) threads on this site are placed in the "wrong" section, but also I noticed that the threads placed in the "general" section tend to "die" quicker than elsewhere because of the turnover in this section

It seems that everyone agrees that expensive is relative and that glocals offers something for everyone. So let's keep coming up with things to do that we enjoy and we're sure to please some of the glocals.

If I may borrow  from Abraham Lincoln (and my gramma) "You can please all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot please all the people all the time.

He said fool instead of please, well, sometimes people fool you to please themselves but that's another thread...

Call me vain but one of the comments grated   Stef, I'm a SHE . It's my own fault for putting a photo in my profile of a big mountain with a little person and 2 bikes. Please tell me...Why did you think it was a guy? Do I have footballer's leg's?

Thanks for the feedback .

Duh! (bis)

Sorry Robi. The only other Robi I know is a Roberto (male name).

But yes indeed: a picture of your face might help avoid misunderstandings!

No worries Stef.

I was only teasing you, I think I'll stick with the norwegian scenery with unidenfiable gender person though. Better than the  chicken photo, ne c'est pas?

To answer Justin's question :
Personnally, I don't worry about my budget when I attend an activity (in part thanks to my cheap rent). But I know that a lot people do, even if they don't advertize it. That is why I organized The Cheap Drinks yesterday. The response was great, and there were still a lot of people writing to me after I put the «Full» tag.
By the way, I see from the thread that this is a sensitive issue. The text of my post for the Cheap Drinks was a bit strong. I hope that it was not interpreted as a criticism of activities in posh places (I go to a lot of them and enjoy it very much). It was a basic marketing trick to catch the attention of the readers and differentiate the activity. My apologies if somebody felt criticized.

I don't know what other posh bars you could be talking about besides the Mandarin. Scotdave has a New Member Drinks almost every Friday at Cafe Paki (which is quite reasonable and a lot of fun). I actually spend less money having a couple glasses of wine (10chf) at the Mandarin than I do when I go out dancing (20 or 25 chf at the door) or for a night out with friends. I could see complaining if activities were organized at Java (good luck finding a drink there for 10 chf) or something else as overpriced or with a covercharge.

And on another note....this thread IS in the wrong forum, if you look around this is the only posting that isn't about a specific activity.