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Bisexuals are often accused of not knowing what they really want. Then, let’s say, you are only turned on by Europeans. You know a friend who also likes Asians. Would you call him confused, and even unfaithful, because he does not mind the unusual ethnic identity of his potential partner? Well, there do exist conservative Korean men considering Korean women with foreign boyfriends as “loose.” What’s comprehensible in both cases is their insecurity, which may increase due to a larger category of potential competitors. Such fear may be irrational but is common in a closed society, especially where people lack confidence and are highly sensitive to an external threat. In the same vein, I sympathize with lesbians who don’t want bisexual partners, because they don’t want to risk having someone who got a better chance of conforming to the social norm, as they reach the age for marriage and the temptation of surrendering to social pressure in pursuit of stability becomes greater as in most people’s cases.


As much as I’d like to understand their sense of insecurity, it remains a personal problem that each individual has to deal with, not a reason for condemning bisexuals altogether as being unfaithful. In my defense, I’d argue that my pansexual tendencies rather make my odds of finding the right partner dimmer. I appreciate genuine joy and revelation of one’s sensuality, autonomous and not limited to dichotomous nuances of sex. Yet it’s quite rare to find truly attractive ones in this regard. Both sellers and purchasers of sexuality turn me off; men who boast about sex only to cover their insecurity; self-degrading women who search for attention by exposing their sexuality to the eyes of the public; certain lesbians who play the role of “femmes” or “butches” (traditional feminine and masculine roles analogous to a heterosexual relationship); none of them appeal to me. Sexuality is a boundless universe just like the person himself, which involves his heart and mind, thus cannot be reduced to a genital function.


After all, every individual has to learn a healthy way of dealing with their insecurity. I hope this issue of bisexuality serves to awaken them to the absurdity of jealousy in a relationship. Remember the old debate over “men and women cannot be friends”? Though I find the European society much more open as regards this matter, a majority of Koreans seem to take it as an unshakable truth. Such an attitude brings me to two points; first, if your partner is bisexual, should he or she be blocked from all social relations, except for professional reasons, because everyone possesses a gender of either a man or a woman?; second, this narrow perspective on people unfairly reduces them to purely sexual beings. Such obsession with sex is not only unhealthy because it damages the wholeness of human relations, but also even more prone to infidelity as well as perplexity, I find.


Whereas LGBT activists fight for their rights, I feel that bisexuals, or rather pansexuals to my preference for the term, lack their own voice in political debates. Not only do they fail to fully identify themselves with gays and lesbians, but also their relative ease of adjusting to a heterosexual world makes their political salience seem minor. Such is the paradox of every political issue that is not isolated enough and therefore ends up further alienated. I wish pansexuals spoke more for themselves. I will try my best.

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Bisexuals are often accused of not knowing what they really want. Then, let’s say, you are only turned on by Europeans. You know a friend who also likes Asians. Would you call him confused, and even unfaithful, because he does not mind the unusual ethnic identity of his potential partner? Well, there do exist conservative Korean men considering Korean women with foreign boyfriends as “loose.” What’s comprehensible in both cases is their insecurity, which may increase due to a larger category of potential competitors. Such fear may be irrational but is common in a closed society, especially where people lack confidence and are highly sensitive to an external threat. In the same vein, I sympathize with lesbians who don’t want bisexual partners, because they don’t want to risk having someone who got a better chance of conforming to the social norm, as they reach the age for marriage and the temptation of surrendering to social pressure in pursuit of stability becomes greater as in most people’s cases.


As much as I’d like to understand their sense of insecurity, it remains a personal problem that each individual has to deal with, not a reason for condemning bisexuals altogether as being unfaithful. In my defense, I’d argue that my pansexual tendencies rather make my odds of finding the right partner dimmer. I appreciate genuine joy and revelation of one’s sensuality, autonomous and not limited to dichotomous nuances of sex. Yet it’s quite rare to find truly attractive ones in this regard. Both sellers and purchasers of sexuality turn me off; men who boast about sex only to cover their insecurity; self-degrading women who search for attention by exposing their sexuality to the eyes of the public; certain lesbians who play the role of “femmes” or “butches” (traditional feminine and masculine roles analogous to a heterosexual relationship); none of them appeal to me. Sexuality is a boundless universe just like the person himself, which involves his heart and mind, thus cannot be reduced to a genital function.


After all, every individual has to learn a healthy way of dealing with their insecurity. I hope this issue of bisexuality serves to awaken them to the absurdity of jealousy in a relationship. Remember the old debate over “men and women cannot be friends”? Though I find the European society much more open as regards this matter, a majority of Koreans seem to take it as an unshakable truth. Such an attitude brings me to two points; first, if your partner is bisexual, should he or she be blocked from all social relations, except for professional reasons, because everyone possesses a gender of either a man or a woman?; second, this narrow perspective on people unfairly reduces them to purely sexual beings. Such obsession with sex is not only unhealthy because it damages the wholeness of human relations, but also even more prone to infidelity as well as perplexity, I find.


Whereas LGBT activists fight for their rights, I feel that bisexuals, or rather pansexuals to my preference for the term, lack their own voice in political debates. Not only do they fail to fully identify themselves with gays and lesbians, but also their relative ease of adjusting to a heterosexual world makes their political salience seem minor. Such is the paradox of every political issue that is not isolated enough and therefore ends up further alienated. I wish pansexuals spoke more for themselves. I will try my best.


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Hi Yunjin


Sexuality is very complex. I am for freedom in that area, meaning everyone does what they want to do as far as nobody is forced in any way to participate :-)


Have you heard of these people born with the both female and male attributes? Often the parents made a choice for them when they were very young so that they could identify with one gender. However, some of these people for whom the choice was made feel incomplete and even traumatized - some have reported not feeling belonging to either male or female gender but to both at the same time. 


More on the subject through their organization:


http://www.intersexualite.org/English-Offical-Position.html


and more for those who speak French:


http://humanrights.ch/home/fr/Suisse/Politique/Interieur/idart_6234-content.html


Regards,


 


 

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Hi Yunjin


Sexuality is very complex. I am for freedom in that area, meaning everyone does what they want to do as far as nobody is forced in any way to participate :-)


Have you heard of these people born with the both female and male attributes? Often the parents made a choice for them when they were very young so that they could identify with one gender. However, some of these people for whom the choice was made feel incomplete and even traumatized - some have reported not feeling belonging to either male or female gender but to both at the same time. 


More on the subject through their organization:


http://www.intersexualite.org/English-Offical-Position.html


and more for those who speak French:


http://humanrights.ch/home/fr/Suisse/Politique/Interieur/idart_6234-content.html


Regards,


 


 


Sarah H, Jun 18, 2011 @ 17:03
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all of that to say that maybe it is not bisexuals that are confused but maybe our society is limiting and limited to some extent...

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all of that to say that maybe it is not bisexuals that are confused but maybe our society is limiting and limited to some extent...


Sarah H, Jun 18, 2011 @ 17:53
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probably bisexuals see people as both male and female at the same time so any sex can be attractive to them. Is anyone totally masculine or totally feminine? - NO


maybe bisexuals just unconsciously want to increase their chances of having sex

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probably bisexuals see people as both male and female at the same time so any sex can be attractive to them. Is anyone totally masculine or totally feminine? - NO


maybe bisexuals just unconsciously want to increase their chances of having sex


leo tincrowdor, Jun 18, 2011 @ 21:53
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In my opinion language, wonderful as it is, can sometimes create trouble, because i think we are all guilty of occasionally forgetting it is a model of a model of 'reality' (a linguistic model of our filtered perception of the world). Hetero, gay and/or bisexual acts...to me they are all just sex and/or love. The problems begin when people exclusively equate sex and love with only one kind of sexual act. all these acts function like synonyms, many signifiers but ultimately only one signified.


 


 

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In my opinion language, wonderful as it is, can sometimes create trouble, because i think we are all guilty of occasionally forgetting it is a model of a model of 'reality' (a linguistic model of our filtered perception of the world). Hetero, gay and/or bisexual acts...to me they are all just sex and/or love. The problems begin when people exclusively equate sex and love with only one kind of sexual act. all these acts function like synonyms, many signifiers but ultimately only one signified.


 


 


manics1984, Jun 18, 2011 @ 22:35
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Sarah, intersexuality is such a good example for revealing the myth of the artificial divide of sex indeed, as the extended initialism LGBTI suggests. Thank you so much for your feedback!

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Sarah, intersexuality is such a good example for revealing the myth of the artificial divide of sex indeed, as the extended initialism LGBTI suggests. Thank you so much for your feedback!


Yunjin Moon, Jun 19, 2011 @ 12:57
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all of that to say that maybe it is not bisexuals that are confused but maybe our society is limiting and limited to some extent...


Jun 18, 11 17:53

Brilliant comment!

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Brilliant comment!


Yunjin Moon, Jun 19, 2011 @ 13:00
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probably bisexuals see people as both male and female at the same time so any sex can be attractive to them. Is anyone totally masculine or totally feminine? - NO

maybe bisexuals just unconsciously want to increase their chances of having sex


Jun 18, 11 21:53

Leo, having seen people with a great sexual appetite that is surprisingly indiscriminate both among hetero and homosexuals, I’m skeptical as to whether its extent can be determined by their sexual identity at all; same thing for bisexuals, because taste matters. Paradoxical as it may sound, there are bisexuals that end up being almost sexless in a highly patriarchal society where feminine traits in a man are severely repressed and vice versa. In such circumstances, the pansexual thinking may also reflect an attempt to see a balance of femininity and masculinity in both men and women.

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Leo, having seen people with a great sexual appetite that is surprisingly indiscriminate both among hetero and homosexuals, I’m skeptical as to whether its extent can be determined by their sexual identity at all; same thing for bisexuals, because taste matters. Paradoxical as it may sound, there are bisexuals that end up being almost sexless in a highly patriarchal society where feminine traits in a man are severely repressed and vice versa. In such circumstances, the pansexual thinking may also reflect an attempt to see a balance of femininity and masculinity in both men and women.


Yunjin Moon, Jun 19, 2011 @ 13:00
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Manics1984, couldn’t agree more with you! Language serves as a great tool for interpreting reality but is also an obstacle to seeing it with bare eyes. This reminds me of a story from a Buddhist Sutra about a father who loses his son. He sees a young boy’s dead body next to his burnt house, cremates it in accordance with the Indian custom, and carries a bag containing its ash on his back day and night; when his real son comes back to knock on the door at night, he goes on refusing to open it and ends up losing his son forever. This story is a metaphor for our attachment to concepts, the bag of ash being analogous to our convictions about the previously acquired knowledge that prevent us from letting in the truth even when it comes to knock on the door of our being.

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Manics1984, couldn’t agree more with you! Language serves as a great tool for interpreting reality but is also an obstacle to seeing it with bare eyes. This reminds me of a story from a Buddhist Sutra about a father who loses his son. He sees a young boy’s dead body next to his burnt house, cremates it in accordance with the Indian custom, and carries a bag containing its ash on his back day and night; when his real son comes back to knock on the door at night, he goes on refusing to open it and ends up losing his son forever. This story is a metaphor for our attachment to concepts, the bag of ash being analogous to our convictions about the previously acquired knowledge that prevent us from letting in the truth even when it comes to knock on the door of our being.


Yunjin Moon, Jun 19, 2011 @ 13:03
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"Bisexuality immediately doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night."


Woody Allen


 

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"Bisexuality immediately doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night."


Woody Allen


 


Dino S, Jun 19, 2011 @ 20:49
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"Bisexuality immediately doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night."

Woody Allen

 


Jun 19, 11 20:49

LOL It may do for certain individuals, like the joke I used to pass on my bisexual male friend that he's the winner of all because there seem to be more hot straight women and hot gay men than the other way round :-P

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LOL It may do for certain individuals, like the joke I used to pass on my bisexual male friend that he's the winner of all because there seem to be more hot straight women and hot gay men than the other way round :-P


Yunjin Moon, Jun 19, 2011 @ 22:59
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One very valid piece of advice my father gave me a while ago was the following;


"However tempting, don't get involved in orgies... theres always some guy who will think its funny to try and stick his cock in your mouth!"


( The mental imagary I got at that early age has ensured I haven't, and won't, unless of course its all women and I'm the only guy, in which case all is good.)


p.s. I really really tried hard to keep away from this thread... but eventually my bursting requirement to add some Charlie humor won over. Sorry ;-)))

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One very valid piece of advice my father gave me a while ago was the following;


"However tempting, don't get involved in orgies... theres always some guy who will think its funny to try and stick his cock in your mouth!"


( The mental imagary I got at that early age has ensured I haven't, and won't, unless of course its all women and I'm the only guy, in which case all is good.)


p.s. I really really tried hard to keep away from this thread... but eventually my bursting requirement to add some Charlie humor won over. Sorry ;-)))


Charlie, Jun 20, 2011 @ 17:02
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Thank you for your valuable feedbacks! One of them, as well as a gentleman’s message I received lately, brings me to another issue that I have been intrigued to tackle in relation to the topic.


Why have some people developed a tendency to think about a threesome or even an orgy when they hear the word bisexuality? For some, such a correlation may well be so firmly rooted in mind that the question appears absurd, for instance, like many of us think of pink as a color for women and notions like strength, courage, and domination as masculine traits, and wouldn’t bother to question the relevance. Yet again, I find no direct link between sexual promiscuousness and indifference toward sexual divide. Unfortunately there exist men with a difficulty in approaching the subject of lesbian relationship without recalling pornographic symbols the industry has had them exposed to, through the mass production of fantasy over and separation of the human body. What they think of same sex relationships may tell more about their own tastes.


I acknowledge that the same word “freedom” may remind some of “disorder,” whereas for others, including myself, it’s more about “autonomy.” Therefore, it’s absolutely fine for us individuals with different tendencies to think differently, and I’m curious about various opinions as to WHY some of us automatically relate bisexuality or even homosexuality to being open to a sexual intercourse that involves either random or multiple partners. My suggestion is, isn’t it a verbal mistake caused by confusing flexibility with extravagance? How do you look at this issue?


Feel free to share your views, as long as we keep mutual respect and courtesy in our debate, I don’t think we should be afraid of expressing ourselves openly. Even if you consider us to have irreconcilable views, it can be all the more interesting to have a glance at the opposite side. Or else, how is one ever going to absorb anything new?


Well yes frankly, of course it causes a headache to everyone including myself to try discussing such sensitive concepts prone to biases because they often produce more frustration than progress in discussion, but well, why not give it a try at the very least! Let each minority’s voice be heard!

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Thank you for your valuable feedbacks! One of them, as well as a gentleman’s message I received lately, brings me to another issue that I have been intrigued to tackle in relation to the topic.


Why have some people developed a tendency to think about a threesome or even an orgy when they hear the word bisexuality? For some, such a correlation may well be so firmly rooted in mind that the question appears absurd, for instance, like many of us think of pink as a color for women and notions like strength, courage, and domination as masculine traits, and wouldn’t bother to question the relevance. Yet again, I find no direct link between sexual promiscuousness and indifference toward sexual divide. Unfortunately there exist men with a difficulty in approaching the subject of lesbian relationship without recalling pornographic symbols the industry has had them exposed to, through the mass production of fantasy over and separation of the human body. What they think of same sex relationships may tell more about their own tastes.


I acknowledge that the same word “freedom” may remind some of “disorder,” whereas for others, including myself, it’s more about “autonomy.” Therefore, it’s absolutely fine for us individuals with different tendencies to think differently, and I’m curious about various opinions as to WHY some of us automatically relate bisexuality or even homosexuality to being open to a sexual intercourse that involves either random or multiple partners. My suggestion is, isn’t it a verbal mistake caused by confusing flexibility with extravagance? How do you look at this issue?


Feel free to share your views, as long as we keep mutual respect and courtesy in our debate, I don’t think we should be afraid of expressing ourselves openly. Even if you consider us to have irreconcilable views, it can be all the more interesting to have a glance at the opposite side. Or else, how is one ever going to absorb anything new?


Well yes frankly, of course it causes a headache to everyone including myself to try discussing such sensitive concepts prone to biases because they often produce more frustration than progress in discussion, but well, why not give it a try at the very least! Let each minority’s voice be heard!


Yunjin Moon, Jun 20, 2011 @ 19:17
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"Bisexuality immediately doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night."

Woody Allen

 


Jun 19, 11 20:49

...and when you reach into their pants, you'll be delighted with whatever you find.


So I've heard....

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...and when you reach into their pants, you'll be delighted with whatever you find.


So I've heard....


richardm, Jun 20, 2011 @ 19:17
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...and when you reach into their pants, you'll be delighted with whatever you find.

So I've heard....


Jun 20, 11 19:17

As well as there are ladies who are relatively at ease with directly entering an intercourse, we are aware that there are all other different types of girls, those who are intimidated by excessive intimacy at an early stage, and those who enjoy sexual tension from abstinence than an actual act, etc. Such a variety of tastes and tendencies remain the same regardless of sexual identity. For some people, either straight or bisexual, it takes a very long time to get used to the body of the other and be ready to fully accept it. Coming from a Confucian culture that places an emphasis on modesty, I personally find it more romantic to wait for some time at the beginning and believe that it’s more or less intimating for most people to enter a contact with another being, either for something serious or even purely sexual, because each individual is an immense universe of possibilities yet undiscovered. His or her gender or sex is only a fraction of it, either you perceive it as an absolute identity or not. Meanwhile, all men and women have both a beast and an insecure child searching for love inside them, while each one has a different way of either expressing or silencing either of the two, while searching for a balance that suits them the best.

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As well as there are ladies who are relatively at ease with directly entering an intercourse, we are aware that there are all other different types of girls, those who are intimidated by excessive intimacy at an early stage, and those who enjoy sexual tension from abstinence than an actual act, etc. Such a variety of tastes and tendencies remain the same regardless of sexual identity. For some people, either straight or bisexual, it takes a very long time to get used to the body of the other and be ready to fully accept it. Coming from a Confucian culture that places an emphasis on modesty, I personally find it more romantic to wait for some time at the beginning and believe that it’s more or less intimating for most people to enter a contact with another being, either for something serious or even purely sexual, because each individual is an immense universe of possibilities yet undiscovered. His or her gender or sex is only a fraction of it, either you perceive it as an absolute identity or not. Meanwhile, all men and women have both a beast and an insecure child searching for love inside them, while each one has a different way of either expressing or silencing either of the two, while searching for a balance that suits them the best.


Yunjin Moon, Jun 20, 2011 @ 20:07
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Since I don't get how to quote partially:



Yunjin Moon:


... WHY some of us automatically relate bisexuality or even homosexuality to being open to a sexual intercourse that involves either random or multiple partners.


Probably because the term implies relations with two genders. That implies at least two partners. That is more than one, i.e. multiple.


My answer does not address the homosexual or the random part of your question, I know.


I for my part don't relate these to homosexuals. I guess it's an indivudual thing. If I meet a homosexual who is in a relationship for two years, I don't think of him having sex with multiple partners. If he were to tell me about great gay-parties where you get a hook-up, I would.


The same would apply to a heterosexual person thou...

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Yunjin Moon:


... WHY some of us automatically relate bisexuality or even homosexuality to being open to a sexual intercourse that involves either random or multiple partners.


Probably because the term implies relations with two genders. That implies at least two partners. That is more than one, i.e. multiple.


My answer does not address the homosexual or the random part of your question, I know.


I for my part don't relate these to homosexuals. I guess it's an indivudual thing. If I meet a homosexual who is in a relationship for two years, I don't think of him having sex with multiple partners. If he were to tell me about great gay-parties where you get a hook-up, I would.


The same would apply to a heterosexual person thou...


Robin L, Jun 21, 2011 @ 16:30
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One very valid piece of advice my father gave me a while ago was the following;

"However tempting, don't get involved in orgies... theres always some guy who will think its funny to try and stick his cock in your mouth!"

( The mental imagary I got at that early age has ensured I haven't, and won't, unless of course its all women and I'm the only guy, in which case all is good.)

p.s. I really really tried hard to keep away from this thread... but eventually my bursting requirement to add some Charlie humor won over. Sorry ;-)))


Jun 20, 11 17:02

Charlie,


That Saturday night 2 weeks ago in Lausanne...I really hope that mouth wasn't yours!


If it was mate, I got just 2 things to say: i) sorry. ii) you got some sweet lips!


Nir

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Charlie,


That Saturday night 2 weeks ago in Lausanne...I really hope that mouth wasn't yours!


If it was mate, I got just 2 things to say: i) sorry. ii) you got some sweet lips!


Nir


Nir Ofek, Jun 21, 2011 @ 17:38
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Charlie,

That Saturday night 2 weeks ago in Lausanne...I really hope that mouth wasn't yours!

If it was mate, I got just 2 things to say: i) sorry. ii) you got some sweet lips!

Nir


Jun 21, 11 17:38

Wasn't me... haven't been to lausanne for ages...  sorry to disappoint...

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Wasn't me... haven't been to lausanne for ages...  sorry to disappoint...


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p.s. Try turning the lights on occasionally Nir... then you'll see what youre poking about in the dark normally with...


ps.. your poodle had a big grin the other day by the way... what on earth are you feeding him? Happy dog that one...

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p.s. Try turning the lights on occasionally Nir... then you'll see what youre poking about in the dark normally with...


ps.. your poodle had a big grin the other day by the way... what on earth are you feeding him? Happy dog that one...


Charlie, Jun 21, 2011 @ 18:09
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If you like men and women, good for you; you get to have the best of both worlds, life is too short to try to figure out wether you're confused about your sexuality or not.

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If you like men and women, good for you; you get to have the best of both worlds, life is too short to try to figure out wether you're confused about your sexuality or not.


andy o, Jun 21, 2011 @ 19:15
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If you like men and women, good for you; you get to have the best of both worlds, life is too short to try to figure out wether you're confused about your sexuality or not.


Jun 21, 11 19:15

I like your comment. It's an interesting insight that may explain how some bisexuals are rather to be considered as too choosy and hard to please vis-a-vis both sides.

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I like your comment. It's an interesting insight that may explain how some bisexuals are rather to be considered as too choosy and hard to please vis-a-vis both sides.


Yunjin Moon, Jun 21, 2011 @ 22:37
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Yunjin,


The reason bisexuality probably conjurs up images of orgies or threesomes in most men is because it is "almost" the only place a hetrosexual man is likely to encounter bisexuality.


If a hetrosexual man sleeps with (or dates) a bisexual girl, on her own, its unlikely he will be told by the girl that she also likes women, unless there is a possible underlying statement there i.e. "lets find another girl to join us". (a question both could ask)


A hetrosexual male is unlikely to enter into a conversation with a bisexual male about sexuality... these subjects (homosexuality and bisexuality) dont just happen to come up in male conversation between two males.


Most straight guys, if they encounter another male who says "I like men also"... is almost certainly going to shy away / avoid that conversation..killing it dead in the water with a "good for you". (or in some cases a much ruder response).


Society in general still does not allow for "open" discussion of male homosexuality ... for various reasons... and where men are concerned the "male bisexuality issue" falls, for most straight men, into the "gay" camp.


Female bisexuality on the other hand allows for hetrosexual men to engage in the possibilty of "hetrosexual" activities with extras ;-)) ... so is clearly a subject much less taboo amongst men.....


What Im stating above is an unbigotted view, and in my opinion a fact of life. For the record I have friends who are both homosexual and bisexual (both m and f) , although I dont participate in either of those traits (just incase NIR or another wants to suggest something)     I wont critisize anyone for doing what makes em feel happy...


I dont subscribe to the notion that sex is solely for procreation... for me its "fun", so stop being confused and do what makes you happy, or whatever you find "fun", and thank god that so many people have different tastes ... otherwise life would be boring...no?

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Yunjin,


The reason bisexuality probably conjurs up images of orgies or threesomes in most men is because it is "almost" the only place a hetrosexual man is likely to encounter bisexuality.


If a hetrosexual man sleeps with (or dates) a bisexual girl, on her own, its unlikely he will be told by the girl that she also likes women, unless there is a possible underlying statement there i.e. "lets find another girl to join us". (a question both could ask)


A hetrosexual male is unlikely to enter into a conversation with a bisexual male about sexuality... these subjects (homosexuality and bisexuality) dont just happen to come up in male conversation between two males.


Most straight guys, if they encounter another male who says "I like men also"... is almost certainly going to shy away / avoid that conversation..killing it dead in the water with a "good for you". (or in some cases a much ruder response).


Society in general still does not allow for "open" discussion of male homosexuality ... for various reasons... and where men are concerned the "male bisexuality issue" falls, for most straight men, into the "gay" camp.


Female bisexuality on the other hand allows for hetrosexual men to engage in the possibilty of "hetrosexual" activities with extras ;-)) ... so is clearly a subject much less taboo amongst men.....


What Im stating above is an unbigotted view, and in my opinion a fact of life. For the record I have friends who are both homosexual and bisexual (both m and f) , although I dont participate in either of those traits (just incase NIR or another wants to suggest something)     I wont critisize anyone for doing what makes em feel happy...


I dont subscribe to the notion that sex is solely for procreation... for me its "fun", so stop being confused and do what makes you happy, or whatever you find "fun", and thank god that so many people have different tastes ... otherwise life would be boring...no?


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A question ? What does mean bisexuals? Attraction for both sex? Having sex with both sex ? Being physical and trying sex with everybody, or being able to fall deeply in love for both sex? Bisexuality is as complex as human relationship. Some bisexuals can be confused as some heterosexual or homosexual can also be. We are human so everybody can be confused about their sexuality and we cannot generalize about bisexuals being confused.... Some bisexuals will claim they are bisexuals and they will be very happy with it more than an heterosexual trying to push back some feelings... So yes we can all be confused, but bisexuals are not more confused than any of us ....  My thaught.

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A question ? What does mean bisexuals? Attraction for both sex? Having sex with both sex ? Being physical and trying sex with everybody, or being able to fall deeply in love for both sex? Bisexuality is as complex as human relationship. Some bisexuals can be confused as some heterosexual or homosexual can also be. We are human so everybody can be confused about their sexuality and we cannot generalize about bisexuals being confused.... Some bisexuals will claim they are bisexuals and they will be very happy with it more than an heterosexual trying to push back some feelings... So yes we can all be confused, but bisexuals are not more confused than any of us ....  My thaught.


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Yunjin,

The reason bisexuality probably conjurs up images of orgies or threesomes in most men is because it is "almost" the only place a hetrosexual man is likely to encounter bisexuality.

If a hetrosexual man sleeps with (or dates) a bisexual girl, on her own, its unlikely he will be told by the girl that she also likes women, unless there is a possible underlying statement there i.e. "lets find another girl to join us". (a question both could ask)

A hetrosexual male is unlikely to enter into a conversation with a bisexual male about sexuality... these subjects (homosexuality and bisexuality) dont just happen to come up in male conversation between two males.

Most straight guys, if they encounter another male who says "I like men also"... is almost certainly going to shy away / avoid that conversation..killing it dead in the water with a "good for you". (or in some cases a much ruder response).

Society in general still does not allow for "open" discussion of male homosexuality ... for various reasons... and where men are concerned the "male bisexuality issue" falls, for most straight men, into the "gay" camp.

Female bisexuality on the other hand allows for hetrosexual men to engage in the possibilty of "hetrosexual" activities with extras ;-)) ... so is clearly a subject much less taboo amongst men.....

What Im stating above is an unbigotted view, and in my opinion a fact of life. For the record I have friends who are both homosexual and bisexual (both m and f) , although I dont participate in either of those traits (just incase NIR or another wants to suggest something)     I wont critisize anyone for doing what makes em feel happy...

I dont subscribe to the notion that sex is solely for procreation... for me its "fun", so stop being confused and do what makes you happy, or whatever you find "fun", and thank god that so many people have different tastes ... otherwise life would be boring...no?


Jun 22, 11 12:45

On "straight" men...or sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...Wink


http://www.straightguise.com/


"Straight Guise is about straight men who have sex with men (SMSM) who question their sexual orientation and are not gay. It is about the many reasons men engage in sexual contact with other men that are not about a homosexual identity. "


http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-07-29/columns/straight-men-who-have-sex-with-men/


http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn


"Heterosexual men with the most anti-gay attitudes, when asked, reported not being sexually aroused by gay male sex videos. But, their penises reported otherwise.


Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts."


 























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On "straight" men...or sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...Wink


http://www.straightguise.com/


"Straight Guise is about straight men who have sex with men (SMSM) who question their sexual orientation and are not gay. It is about the many reasons men engage in sexual contact with other men that are not about a homosexual identity. "


http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-07-29/columns/straight-men-who-have-sex-with-men/


http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn


"Heterosexual men with the most anti-gay attitudes, when asked, reported not being sexually aroused by gay male sex videos. But, their penises reported otherwise.


Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts."


 
























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On "straight" men...or sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...Wink

http://www.straightguise.com/

"Straight Guise is about straight men who have sex with men (SMSM) who question their sexual orientation and are not gay. It is about the many reasons men engage in sexual contact with other men that are not about a homosexual identity. "

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-07-29/columns/straight-men-who-have-sex-with-men/

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

"Heterosexual men with the most anti-gay attitudes, when asked, reported not being sexually aroused by gay male sex videos. But, their penises reported otherwise.

Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts."

 


Jun 22, 11 14:35

seeing as Im not homophobic, I have nothing to worry about then... thanks Val for that insight ;-)


Like everyone I have my own "preferences",  so in the same way I don't critisize people who have gay or bisexual tendencies, i do expect the same level of tollerance towards my straightness... I guess thats normal.


What does rile me though is when people suggest a straight guy must be gay simply because he doesnt want gay sex. Why is that?...


 

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seeing as Im not homophobic, I have nothing to worry about then... thanks Val for that insight ;-)


Like everyone I have my own "preferences",  so in the same way I don't critisize people who have gay or bisexual tendencies, i do expect the same level of tollerance towards my straightness... I guess thats normal.


What does rile me though is when people suggest a straight guy must be gay simply because he doesnt want gay sex. Why is that?...


 


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