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Jun 1, 2012 @ 08:14

I dropped my GriGri at St. Loup last night.  plink, tink, kerchink, no stop stop! plink, doink, doink, please stop rolling down the hill, kerchink..... It kept rolling and I couldn't hear it anymore.  =(  =(  =(


I want to go back late Saturday afternoon with enough rope to break the legs of a pack mule and find that little piece of merde.  The hill is a little too steep to hike down, hence to quasi-abseil toward the river, using trees as anchor points..  I need to check a topo and see if I can keep descending to the river then hike out or if I'd need to rig-up a progress capture system and haul my sorry ass back to the top.


It's not the €60 lost -- I routinely waste more money on dates with women whom I don't like -- it's the principle.  I want it back simply because getting it back won't be easy.  Any thoughts from someone who does canyoneering and can give me tips on rope handling techniques?

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I dropped my GriGri at St. Loup last night.  plink, tink, kerchink, no stop stop! plink, doink, doink, please stop rolling down the hill, kerchink..... It kept rolling and I couldn't hear it anymore.  =(  =(  =(


I want to go back late Saturday afternoon with enough rope to break the legs of a pack mule and find that little piece of merde.  The hill is a little too steep to hike down, hence to quasi-abseil toward the river, using trees as anchor points..  I need to check a topo and see if I can keep descending to the river then hike out or if I'd need to rig-up a progress capture system and haul my sorry ass back to the top.


It's not the €60 lost -- I routinely waste more money on dates with women whom I don't like -- it's the principle.  I want it back simply because getting it back won't be easy.  Any thoughts from someone who does canyoneering and can give me tips on rope handling techniques?


richardmJun 1, 2012 @ 08:14
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Jun 1, 2012 @ 08:46

You could go up a STATIC rope with a shunt (http://www.rockclimbing.com/gear/Essential_Equipment/Belay_Devices_Descenders/Shunt_Ascender_701.html)


But the grigri you lost might be worth nothing now, if all the plinks you describe in your report are hits with rock....


 

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You could go up a STATIC rope with a shunt (http://www.rockclimbing.com/gear/Essential_Equipment/Belay_Devices_Descenders/Shunt_Ascender_701.html)


But the grigri you lost might be worth nothing now, if all the plinks you describe in your report are hits with rock....


 


Ocio Sano, Jun 1, 2012 @ 08:46
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Jun 1, 2012 @ 09:43

You could go up a STATIC rope with a shunt (http://www.rockclimbing.com/gear/Essential_Equipment/Belay_Devices_Descenders/Shunt_Ascender_701.html)

But the grigri you lost might be worth nothing now, if all the plinks you describe in your report are hits with rock....

 


Jun 1, 12 08:46

No rock.  Soft forest floor and trees.  I'm wondering how much dropped climbing gear is buried under the leaves.  Metal detector anyone?


As for the shunt, I've been looking for an excuse to buy an ascender anyway.  I can buy a €50 gadget to use for rescuing another €50 gadget.  I'm not the sharpest pencil in the can, innit?


Why static rope?

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No rock.  Soft forest floor and trees.  I'm wondering how much dropped climbing gear is buried under the leaves.  Metal detector anyone?


As for the shunt, I've been looking for an excuse to buy an ascender anyway.  I can buy a €50 gadget to use for rescuing another €50 gadget.  I'm not the sharpest pencil in the can, innit?


Why static rope?


richardm, Jun 1, 2012 @ 09:43
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Jun 1, 2012 @ 10:00

Ascending on a dynamic rope is a lot more energy consuming as every time you weight the rope it stretches and you move up little by little. It is doable of course and for just this one time there is no need for bying a static rope, especially if the wall is not close to 90 degrees.


I am not sure I would go for a shunt. I have a ropeman that I think is more versatile piece of equipment.


 

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Ascending on a dynamic rope is a lot more energy consuming as every time you weight the rope it stretches and you move up little by little. It is doable of course and for just this one time there is no need for bying a static rope, especially if the wall is not close to 90 degrees.


I am not sure I would go for a shunt. I have a ropeman that I think is more versatile piece of equipment.


 


Hedi P, Jun 1, 2012 @ 10:00
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Jun 1, 2012 @ 10:13

It's nowhere close to 90 degrees.  I could almost hike down the hill but it's a little too steep for that to be safe.


If this were a "real" abseil, I'd just forget the project, as my mountaineering skills aren't up to par.


I love the description I just read regarding the ropeman: "The MK II's are great for glacier travel (self extracation from involuntary crevasse exploration)".  I'm giggling like a little girl right now....

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It's nowhere close to 90 degrees.  I could almost hike down the hill but it's a little too steep for that to be safe.


If this were a "real" abseil, I'd just forget the project, as my mountaineering skills aren't up to par.


I love the description I just read regarding the ropeman: "The MK II's are great for glacier travel (self extracation from involuntary crevasse exploration)".  I'm giggling like a little girl right now....


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