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Hello again everyone!! It being monday yesterday my mind was a little all over the place and I forgot to buy a ticket while parking below at the COOP. When I got back to the car I had a little "ticket" on my car. However there is no amount on it, just all the details about my vehicle and the type of violation, does this mean I'm not getting a ticket, or that it is just coming in the mail?? And how much are these tickets anyway? I know I need to step out of the box and things are different than they are in Canada, but really!! If its not from a police officer in Canada, you dont have to pay, is it the same system here??
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Hello again everyone!! It being monday yesterday my mind was a little all over the place and I forgot to buy a ticket while parking below at the COOP. When I got back to the car I had a little "ticket" on my car. However there is no amount on it, just all the details about my vehicle and the type of violation, does this mean I'm not getting a ticket, or that it is just coming in the mail?? And how much are these tickets anyway? I know I need to step out of the box and things are different than they are in Canada, but really!! If its not from a police officer in Canada, you dont have to pay, is it the same system here??
PrinFeb 17, 2009 @ 09:18
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If it is a "denonciation" it means you should receive a ticket by mail. Usually the ticket is CHF 40 and there are CHF 30 of administrative fees... yep, that's expensive!

But if you're lucky, the denonciation will never arrive to the police. And no, not everyone can write you a denonciation...

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If it is a "denonciation" it means you should receive a ticket by mail. Usually the ticket is CHF 40 and there are CHF 30 of administrative fees... yep, that's expensive!

But if you're lucky, the denonciation will never arrive to the police. And no, not everyone can write you a denonciation...
zezette, Feb 17, 2009 @ 10:29

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Zez: so who can write up these 'denonciations'? Is it just 'good' citizens that pass by and see a car parked wrong, and decide to report it to the police?
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Zez: so who can write up these 'denonciations'? Is it just 'good' citizens that pass by and see a car parked wrong, and decide to report it to the police?
Nir Ofek, Feb 17, 2009 @ 10:39
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I'd rather imagine that's the guardian of the COOP parking, since she was there.

And I'd rather pay the fine as a good citizen, if I were you, Suz.
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I'd rather imagine that's the guardian of the COOP parking, since she was there.

And I'd rather pay the fine as a good citizen, if I were you, Suz.
Stef__Granny, Feb 17, 2009 @ 12:19
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Where we live there is a man that goes around to different car parks and checks for tickets, if you don`t have a valid ticket then he puts tickets on your car window, and it is normally for 40frcs.
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Where we live there is a man that goes around to different car parks and checks for tickets, if you don`t have a valid ticket then he puts tickets on your car window, and it is normally for 40frcs.
Sutter, Feb 17, 2009 @ 12:40
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Hi, it's probably best to check and ask a person at the coop (information booth, or branch manager). J.
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Hi, it's probably best to check and ask a person at the coop (information booth, or branch manager). J.
skiingfan, Feb 17, 2009 @ 14:49
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If it really is a denonciation, you will receive an official fine by mail, otherwise just forget about it... anyway it might take a few weeks.

The guys who can give you these "fines" are not cops but they usually work for a private security company (no cops allowed on the parking of COOP as it is private)...

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If it really is a denonciation, you will receive an official fine by mail, otherwise just forget about it... anyway it might take a few weeks.

The guys who can give you these "fines" are not cops but they usually work for a private security company (no cops allowed on the parking of COOP as it is private)...
zezette, Feb 17, 2009 @ 15:14

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Thank you so much for the info.. I think it was like a rent-A-cop deal, his handwritting is awful! Anyway this will be my first ticket ever I guess, since usually I can always sweet talk my way out of things..might have to frame it! Thanks guys!
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Thank you so much for the info.. I think it was like a rent-A-cop deal, his handwritting is awful! Anyway this will be my first ticket ever I guess, since usually I can always sweet talk my way out of things..might have to frame it! Thanks guys!
Prin, Feb 17, 2009 @ 15:38
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the irony of Prin the Glocal police officer getting a ticket. next time, maybe you should keep your uniform in the car! but i'd love to catch you trying to get out of receiving any sorta tickets :laugh: that would be a great candid camera moment....

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the irony of Prin the Glocal police officer getting a ticket. next time, maybe you should keep your uniform in the car! but i'd love to catch you trying to get out of receiving any sorta tickets :laugh: that would be a great candid camera moment....


YouMeCo, Feb 17, 2009 @ 16:14

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Yes normally Securitas or some other security company. Being switzerland it might take a while to get to you if at all. Happens to me regulalry at work, especially when I first started, always forgot the badge and had to write and apologise.

The swiss do like denounciations though.... even from individuals.

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Yes normally Securitas or some other security company. Being switzerland it might take a while to get to you if at all. Happens to me regulalry at work, especially when I first started, always forgot the badge and had to write and apologise.

The swiss do like denounciations though.... even from individuals.
munkypint, Feb 17, 2009 @ 16:14

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I wonder if I could wear that outfit down to the station?? Would they give me a years worth of "get out of jail free" cards? Or would I be locked up for prostitution without a permit??
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I wonder if I could wear that outfit down to the station?? Would they give me a years worth of "get out of jail free" cards? Or would I be locked up for prostitution without a permit??
Prin, Feb 17, 2009 @ 16:20
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Whatever... give it a try and let us know when :D




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Whatever... give it a try and let us know when :D





Hobbes, Feb 17, 2009 @ 18:42
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[quote][b]Prin (17/02/2009)

[/b]does this mean I'm not getting a ticket, or that it is just coming in the mail?? And how much are these tickets anyway? [/quote]

The first time might just be a warning. You should check with the Coop manager and see if they can arrange something. It may still be in their hands. It works best if you kept your receipt though... The price should be between CHF 40.- and 70.- depending whether the police charge an administrative fee or not.





[quote][b]munkypint (17/02/2009)

[/b]The swiss do like denounciations though.... even from individuals.[/quote]

What a stupid and bold statement !
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[quote][b]Prin (17/02/2009)

[/b]does this mean I'm not getting a ticket, or that it is just coming in the mail?? And how much are these tickets anyway? [/quote]

The first time might just be a warning. You should check with the Coop manager and see if they can arrange something. It may still be in their hands. It works best if you kept your receipt though... The price should be between CHF 40.- and 70.- depending whether the police charge an administrative fee or not.





[quote][b]munkypint (17/02/2009)

[/b]The swiss do like denounciations though.... even from individuals.[/quote]

What a stupid and bold statement !
Free, Feb 17, 2009 @ 20:42
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Does how much I spend at the Coop make a difference?? Because I am in there all the time and spend loads of money, enough that I should not have to pay for a ticket, I should basically have my own parking spot!
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Does how much I spend at the Coop make a difference?? Because I am in there all the time and spend loads of money, enough that I should not have to pay for a ticket, I should basically have my own parking spot!
Prin, Feb 17, 2009 @ 20:52
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I fully agree with you, these parkings should be free, at least for the first hour. But business is business and they pay for the space as well. And they may be put under pressure by the authorities and their (somewhat blind and unqualified) anti car policy... Remember when Balexert was free of charges for two hours? Well, it's now only one because they were forced to charge drivers in exchange of the parking extension...



As for negotiating with the management, I have no idea... Try the outfit if it's a man and the amount on the receipt if it's a woman ;)
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I fully agree with you, these parkings should be free, at least for the first hour. But business is business and they pay for the space as well. And they may be put under pressure by the authorities and their (somewhat blind and unqualified) anti car policy... Remember when Balexert was free of charges for two hours? Well, it's now only one because they were forced to charge drivers in exchange of the parking extension...



As for negotiating with the management, I have no idea... Try the outfit if it's a man and the amount on the receipt if it's a woman ;)
Free, Feb 17, 2009 @ 21:12
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Just take it as a 40CHF learning: Always obey speeding limits/traffic laws in Switzerland. ALWAYS!

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Just take it as a 40CHF learning: Always obey speeding limits/traffic laws in Switzerland. ALWAYS!
taco, Feb 17, 2009 @ 22:50

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Taco..what fun is that?? Its not the 40 CHF I am worried about, its the fact of the matter!! Not to mention getting let off the hook is the same thing as when a man chases a woman and finally wins!! Ok a little much but still...
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Taco..what fun is that?? Its not the 40 CHF I am worried about, its the fact of the matter!! Not to mention getting let off the hook is the same thing as when a man chases a woman and finally wins!! Ok a little much but still...
Prin, Feb 18, 2009 @ 00:07
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Don't worry, Prin, cops do not keep records of such small traffic related fines (up to CHF 300.-). They can even be paid anonymously.



For a translation of legal terms see the document "Terminology of Criminal Law and Related Areas" maintained by the Federal Chancellery. (>670 pages !)
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Don't worry, Prin, cops do not keep records of such small traffic related fines (up to CHF 300.-). They can even be paid anonymously.



For a translation of legal terms see the document "Terminology of Criminal Law and Related Areas" maintained by the Federal Chancellery. (>670 pages !)
Free, Feb 18, 2009 @ 00:50
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What a stupid and bold statement ![/quote]

 

Free,

 

Its not a value judgment, for me it was just a statement that was not bold; only based on what I have seen, experienced and discussed with locals and foreigners alike.

 

I have not seen in any other European countries signs which clearly say you can be denounced by individuals. I have in Switzerland, many times. And people telling me they have done so. Its not negatively percieved like elsewhere, it is considered a civic deed. This might be because in Switzerland there is less stigma associated with that term and act because there hasn't been the excesses experienced in neighboring countries in the 20th century.

 

For the french speakers: "délation" et "dénonciation" are very different things in switzerland. For a majority of other french speakers they get amalgamated and are erroneously considered synonymous.

 

Munkypint

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What a stupid and bold statement ![/quote]

 

Free,

 

Its not a value judgment, for me it was just a statement that was not bold; only based on what I have seen, experienced and discussed with locals and foreigners alike.

 

I have not seen in any other European countries signs which clearly say you can be denounced by individuals. I have in Switzerland, many times. And people telling me they have done so. Its not negatively percieved like elsewhere, it is considered a civic deed. This might be because in Switzerland there is less stigma associated with that term and act because there hasn't been the excesses experienced in neighboring countries in the 20th century.

 

For the french speakers: "délation" et "dénonciation" are very different things in switzerland. For a majority of other french speakers they get amalgamated and are erroneously considered synonymous.

 

Munkypint
munkypint, Feb 18, 2009 @ 11:57

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I fully understand Munkypint's point.

I also found that in CH, involcing the authorities in petty disputes (neighbor making noise, someone parking bad, etc) is not only more common than in other places, but also carries with it far less 'shame' than in other places. 

For example, in my home country, it would be almost un-thinkable for a civilian to just report a badly parked driver to the cops (unless it's a major driving obstacle), or for a neighbor to call the cops cos his neighbor is making noise. And if the cops were called in, the neighbor who called them in would - most likely - be ashamed to tell his friends what he did, cos it's considered both non-social and even weak. 

In CH, and this ain't good or bad - my experience is that involving the authorities in petty disputes is more common and carries less bad stigma.

Nir

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I fully understand Munkypint's point.

I also found that in CH, involcing the authorities in petty disputes (neighbor making noise, someone parking bad, etc) is not only more common than in other places, but also carries with it far less 'shame' than in other places. 

For example, in my home country, it would be almost un-thinkable for a civilian to just report a badly parked driver to the cops (unless it's a major driving obstacle), or for a neighbor to call the cops cos his neighbor is making noise. And if the cops were called in, the neighbor who called them in would - most likely - be ashamed to tell his friends what he did, cos it's considered both non-social and even weak. 

In CH, and this ain't good or bad - my experience is that involving the authorities in petty disputes is more common and carries less bad stigma.

Nir
Nir Ofek, Feb 18, 2009 @ 12:11

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