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This is for those contributors living in France.


Does the French system of fences/boundaries/demarcation work the same way as in UK?


That is to say, when one is looking out the front door facing south, does the fence/boundary on the left-hand side of the property belong to you, and the right-hand side of the property belong to the neighbours on that side? Or is it a question of 50/50?


Grateful for accurate information [before we have a dispute with the neighbours]!!!!

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This is for those contributors living in France.


Does the French system of fences/boundaries/demarcation work the same way as in UK?


That is to say, when one is looking out the front door facing south, does the fence/boundary on the left-hand side of the property belong to you, and the right-hand side of the property belong to the neighbours on that side? Or is it a question of 50/50?


Grateful for accurate information [before we have a dispute with the neighbours]!!!!


sheila cJun 17, 2017 @ 18:47
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Oh, Sheila, I do hope someone can give an authoritative answer.

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Oh, Sheila, I do hope someone can give an authoritative answer.


Ritchie, Jun 17, 2017 @ 19:40
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In France, the "Cadastre" can tell you who the fence belongs to.


http://votreargent.lexpress.fr/droit/les-regles-de-la-mitoyennete_1585951.html

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In France, the "Cadastre" can tell you who the fence belongs to.


http://votreargent.lexpress.fr/droit/les-regles-de-la-mitoyennete_1585951.html


hay_, Jun 18, 2017 @ 10:59
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Sheila, the French system certainly has no similarity to what you describe from the UK. The general principle is more 50/50, but with lots subtleties. And like everywhere else, it has given cause for many court cases.


May be helpful if you gave more details about what you need to know.


 


 


 

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Sheila, the French system certainly has no similarity to what you describe from the UK. The general principle is more 50/50, but with lots subtleties. And like everywhere else, it has given cause for many court cases.


May be helpful if you gave more details about what you need to know.


 


 


 


tawb, Jun 18, 2017 @ 11:47
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This is it in a nutshell. We had some partly-dead trees taken down between us and our neighbour. The view into their garden is now clearly through a "grillage" that is to say, a wire diamond plastic fence. Our neighbour is being very difficult. We wanted to put up a fence with Panneaux rigid to which he objected. So we ordered 20 meters of the green rolls of thin toile and explained this to him. NB the grillage is only 1 meter high, installed on a small concrete wall. He objected to this too and became very iffy when we told him we had already ordered it. If we attach it to our side of the grillage, presumably there is not a lot he can do, and in any case, it will give both parties privacy. We cannot understand his pathetic objections.

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This is it in a nutshell. We had some partly-dead trees taken down between us and our neighbour. The view into their garden is now clearly through a "grillage" that is to say, a wire diamond plastic fence. Our neighbour is being very difficult. We wanted to put up a fence with Panneaux rigid to which he objected. So we ordered 20 meters of the green rolls of thin toile and explained this to him. NB the grillage is only 1 meter high, installed on a small concrete wall. He objected to this too and became very iffy when we told him we had already ordered it. If we attach it to our side of the grillage, presumably there is not a lot he can do, and in any case, it will give both parties privacy. We cannot understand his pathetic objections.


sheila c, Jun 18, 2017 @ 11:55
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Funny coincidence. I had the opposite situation. My neighbour put up a screen, without asking me. But I didn't mind.


 


The fence is by default shared. The wall also, if the top of it is flat.(I.e. not sloping to one side.) However, check the border indications, if they exist. It may be that the fence isn't on the limit.


I think the neighbour may potentially block you from puttng something on the fence. But he cannot block you from putting up something inside your property, as long as it's not too high.


Note that the commune may have local rules. Note also that whatever you put up must withstand the wind, including not tearing down the fence. (Wind over a large area can have a very strong force.)


A few places to look:


http://www.dossierfamilial.com/consommation/demarches-droits/mur-et-cloture-comment-gerer-la-mitoyennete-56421


http://droit-finances.commentcamarche.net/contents/732-murs-mitoyens-separation-et-mitoyennete


https://www.adil974.com/fileadmin/user_upload/_imported/fileadmin/Sites/Adil_de_la_R_union/PDF/voisinage/mitoyennete.pdf


 

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Funny coincidence. I had the opposite situation. My neighbour put up a screen, without asking me. But I didn't mind.


 


The fence is by default shared. The wall also, if the top of it is flat.(I.e. not sloping to one side.) However, check the border indications, if they exist. It may be that the fence isn't on the limit.


I think the neighbour may potentially block you from puttng something on the fence. But he cannot block you from putting up something inside your property, as long as it's not too high.


Note that the commune may have local rules. Note also that whatever you put up must withstand the wind, including not tearing down the fence. (Wind over a large area can have a very strong force.)


A few places to look:


http://www.dossierfamilial.com/consommation/demarches-droits/mur-et-cloture-comment-gerer-la-mitoyennete-56421


http://droit-finances.commentcamarche.net/contents/732-murs-mitoyens-separation-et-mitoyennete


https://www.adil974.com/fileadmin/user_upload/_imported/fileadmin/Sites/Adil_de_la_R_union/PDF/voisinage/mitoyennete.pdf


 


tawb, Jun 20, 2017 @ 18:19
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