Friends, all help and suggestions welcome.
Wanting more mobility, for the summer evenings and for Sundays, I took the compulsory 2 motorbike lessons with a recognised instructor and got my A1 motorbike license.
What do I buy? I am 1m 95cm tall, and rode a 49cc moped in Holland for 5 years.
My thoughts for practicality go towards a Kymco People 125S, I could even use it for meetings or going across town? How does it cope with going up a mountain road?
I borrowed one in November and doing 90 kph on the highway was somewhat cold, and I had to be aware when some large truck passed to remember that I was going to be blown around.
How often does a bike require servicing, annual inspections etc?
Can one join the Motor bike forum outings on it, will I keep up with the crowd?
Many thanks
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Motorbike in Switzerland with A1 license
Mar 15, 2009 @ 17:26
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Friends, all help and suggestions welcome.
Wanting more mobility, for the summer evenings and for Sundays, I took the compulsory 2 motorbike lessons with a recognised instructor and got my A1 motorbike license.
What do I buy? I am 1m 95cm tall, and rode a 49cc moped in Holland for 5 years.
My thoughts for practicality go towards a Kymco People 125S, I could even use it for meetings or going across town? How does it cope with going up a mountain road?
I borrowed one in November and doing 90 kph on the highway was somewhat cold, and I had to be aware when some large truck passed to remember that I was going to be blown around.
How often does a bike require servicing, annual inspections etc?
Can one join the Motor bike forum outings on it, will I keep up with the crowd?
Many thanks
olivetreeMar 15, 2009 @ 17:26
Wanting more mobility, for the summer evenings and for Sundays, I took the compulsory 2 motorbike lessons with a recognised instructor and got my A1 motorbike license.
What do I buy? I am 1m 95cm tall, and rode a 49cc moped in Holland for 5 years.
My thoughts for practicality go towards a Kymco People 125S, I could even use it for meetings or going across town? How does it cope with going up a mountain road?
I borrowed one in November and doing 90 kph on the highway was somewhat cold, and I had to be aware when some large truck passed to remember that I was going to be blown around.
How often does a bike require servicing, annual inspections etc?
Can one join the Motor bike forum outings on it, will I keep up with the crowd?
Many thanks
olivetreeMar 15, 2009 @ 17:26
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Re: Motorbike in Switzerland with A1 license
Post 1
Mar 26, 2009 @ 08:38
bonjour,
if you want to go long distance, most will say a 125 will not have enough power.
the two lessons to get your hours in, allows you to ride anywhere in the Swiss except the autoroute. Also travels with a 'L' sign on the back of the bike does not permit you to leave the Swiss for FR, DE or IT. A good test for your 125 is a ride up the Saleve but if you have a 'L' plaque it's not possible if you get caught
If you're not in the 'under 25 or so' age category, there is no size restriction on bike size before you go for the full 'A' license.
the full 'A' license also requires some instructor hours signed off before the rider exam
there is a gol group that will likely post rides starting this spring
ciao
if you want to go long distance, most will say a 125 will not have enough power.
the two lessons to get your hours in, allows you to ride anywhere in the Swiss except the autoroute. Also travels with a 'L' sign on the back of the bike does not permit you to leave the Swiss for FR, DE or IT. A good test for your 125 is a ride up the Saleve but if you have a 'L' plaque it's not possible if you get caught
If you're not in the 'under 25 or so' age category, there is no size restriction on bike size before you go for the full 'A' license.
the full 'A' license also requires some instructor hours signed off before the rider exam
there is a gol group that will likely post rides starting this spring
ciao
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bonjour,
if you want to go long distance, most will say a 125 will not have enough power.
the two lessons to get your hours in, allows you to ride anywhere in the Swiss except the autoroute. Also travels with a 'L' sign on the back of the bike does not permit you to leave the Swiss for FR, DE or IT. A good test for your 125 is a ride up the Saleve but if you have a 'L' plaque it's not possible if you get caught
If you're not in the 'under 25 or so' age category, there is no size restriction on bike size before you go for the full 'A' license.
the full 'A' license also requires some instructor hours signed off before the rider exam
there is a gol group that will likely post rides starting this spring
ciao
hyphen1, Mar 26, 2009 @ 08:38
if you want to go long distance, most will say a 125 will not have enough power.
the two lessons to get your hours in, allows you to ride anywhere in the Swiss except the autoroute. Also travels with a 'L' sign on the back of the bike does not permit you to leave the Swiss for FR, DE or IT. A good test for your 125 is a ride up the Saleve but if you have a 'L' plaque it's not possible if you get caught
If you're not in the 'under 25 or so' age category, there is no size restriction on bike size before you go for the full 'A' license.
the full 'A' license also requires some instructor hours signed off before the rider exam
there is a gol group that will likely post rides starting this spring
ciao
hyphen1, Mar 26, 2009 @ 08:38
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Re: Motorbike in Switzerland with A1 license
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Mar 26, 2009 @ 11:06
remember that heavier bikes are safer ( less wind influence, bigger tires, better breaking, more comfort, etc) if you want to stay with scooters, try the aprilla 500 or the honda silver wing (600) or the suzuki 400 ) all are autoroute worthy and fun to ride. and quite comfortable.
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remember that heavier bikes are safer ( less wind influence, bigger tires, better breaking, more comfort, etc) if you want to stay with scooters, try the aprilla 500 or the honda silver wing (600) or the suzuki 400 ) all are autoroute worthy and fun to ride. and quite comfortable.
epicure, Mar 26, 2009 @ 11:06
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Re: Motorbike in Switzerland with A1 license
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Mar 26, 2009 @ 11:29
Yesterday i went for a test drive on a Honda XLV Varadero 125!. I have not ridden a motor bike for many years, I am 50+ and 6ft 3 tall.
The bike was excellent, it never moved in the wind, and I even took it at 100 on the Autoroute and felt safe with lorries passing me.
The roads were dry even though there were snow flurries.
I felt happy with the limited amount of power, and thoroughly enjoyed myself.
Now, who can help me with Insurance? For a bike that costs SFr6,500 I have been told that Voll kasko is not worthwhile.
So we go with Teil Kasko, what do i have to look out for?
Many thanks to all
The bike was excellent, it never moved in the wind, and I even took it at 100 on the Autoroute and felt safe with lorries passing me.
The roads were dry even though there were snow flurries.
I felt happy with the limited amount of power, and thoroughly enjoyed myself.
Now, who can help me with Insurance? For a bike that costs SFr6,500 I have been told that Voll kasko is not worthwhile.
So we go with Teil Kasko, what do i have to look out for?
Many thanks to all
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Yesterday i went for a test drive on a Honda XLV Varadero 125!. I have not ridden a motor bike for many years, I am 50+ and 6ft 3 tall.
The bike was excellent, it never moved in the wind, and I even took it at 100 on the Autoroute and felt safe with lorries passing me.
The roads were dry even though there were snow flurries.
I felt happy with the limited amount of power, and thoroughly enjoyed myself.
Now, who can help me with Insurance? For a bike that costs SFr6,500 I have been told that Voll kasko is not worthwhile.
So we go with Teil Kasko, what do i have to look out for?
Many thanks to all
olivetree, Mar 26, 2009 @ 11:29
The bike was excellent, it never moved in the wind, and I even took it at 100 on the Autoroute and felt safe with lorries passing me.
The roads were dry even though there were snow flurries.
I felt happy with the limited amount of power, and thoroughly enjoyed myself.
Now, who can help me with Insurance? For a bike that costs SFr6,500 I have been told that Voll kasko is not worthwhile.
So we go with Teil Kasko, what do i have to look out for?
Many thanks to all
olivetree, Mar 26, 2009 @ 11:29
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Re: Motorbike in Switzerland with A1 license
Post 4
Mar 26, 2009 @ 13:27
[quote]Now, who can help me with Insurance? For a bike that costs SFr6,500 I have been told that Voll kasko is not worthwhile.
So we go with Teil Kasko, what do i have to look out for?
Many thanks to all
[/quote]
My used Honda Hornet 600 cost about the same. My insurance is 550CHF for one year with allianz-suisse.ch
So we go with Teil Kasko, what do i have to look out for?
Many thanks to all
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My used Honda Hornet 600 cost about the same. My insurance is 550CHF for one year with allianz-suisse.ch
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[quote]Now, who can help me with Insurance? For a bike that costs SFr6,500 I have been told that Voll kasko is not worthwhile.
So we go with Teil Kasko, what do i have to look out for?
Many thanks to all
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My used Honda Hornet 600 cost about the same. My insurance is 550CHF for one year with allianz-suisse.ch
hyphen1, Mar 26, 2009 @ 13:27
So we go with Teil Kasko, what do i have to look out for?
Many thanks to all
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My used Honda Hornet 600 cost about the same. My insurance is 550CHF for one year with allianz-suisse.ch
hyphen1, Mar 26, 2009 @ 13:27
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Re: Motorbike in Switzerland with A1 license
Post 5
Mar 26, 2009 @ 19:05
Hello,
my 2 cents. The Varadero 125 should be fine for your usage (more mobility, short distances).
But for the licence, I would recommend that you go directly for the full licence (A).
For insurance, I have a F650GS, "casco partielle", minimum bonus and pay around CHF 350 per year.
Bikes are to be serviced once per year (ideally) and the inspection occurs every 3 years or so. Not expensive unless your bike fails.
Finally, please note that we are a small group of bikers here although we were quite silent last year but it seems that its awakening again... Feel free to drop me a line for more details.
Cheers,
Pikachu
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Hello,
my 2 cents. The Varadero 125 should be fine for your usage (more mobility, short distances).
But for the licence, I would recommend that you go directly for the full licence (A).
For insurance, I have a F650GS, "casco partielle", minimum bonus and pay around CHF 350 per year.
Bikes are to be serviced once per year (ideally) and the inspection occurs every 3 years or so. Not expensive unless your bike fails.
Finally, please note that we are a small group of bikers here although we were quite silent last year but it seems that its awakening again... Feel free to drop me a line for more details.
Cheers,
Pikachu
Pikachu, Mar 26, 2009 @ 19:05
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Re: Motorbike in Switzerland with A1 license
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Mar 27, 2009 @ 11:50
The rules changes not so long ago to get motorbike licence, so you might check on the web site of "bureau des autos" to see what licence you can get :
www.ge.ch/san
www.ge.ch/san
As you are more than 25, if I remember right, you just need to take 8h lessons if you already have the A1 to get the A. You might also drive a 25kW limited motorbike, like I did for a while with my Suzuki SV650s, very cool for city and for traveling.
For the insurance, if you're a begginer driver, it might be useful to take a full insurance as you might fall, if you brake the body parts it quickly cost hundreds of francs ... For my RSV 1000 with some insurances for me and the steal insurance, I pay around 700.- per year.
Bonne route !
Pika
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The rules changes not so long ago to get motorbike licence, so you might check on the web site of "bureau des autos" to see what licence you can get :
www.ge.ch/san
www.ge.ch/san
As you are more than 25, if I remember right, you just need to take 8h lessons if you already have the A1 to get the A. You might also drive a 25kW limited motorbike, like I did for a while with my Suzuki SV650s, very cool for city and for traveling.
For the insurance, if you're a begginer driver, it might be useful to take a full insurance as you might fall, if you brake the body parts it quickly cost hundreds of francs ... For my RSV 1000 with some insurances for me and the steal insurance, I pay around 700.- per year.
Bonne route !
Pika
Pika, Mar 27, 2009 @ 11:50
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Re: Motorbike in Switzerland with A1 license
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Mar 27, 2009 @ 11:56
Oh I forgot, a motorbike is supposed to be serviced every 6'000km and it cost around 300.-, and every 12'000km it's a big service that cost a bit more, usually 500-600.-. And hey are things to be changed often (or not) depending on your driving like the tires (and it's a whole budget on big bikes ;) ). Scooters are usually serviced every 10'000km or once a year, and it's a bit cheaper.
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Oh I forgot, a motorbike is supposed to be serviced every 6'000km and it cost around 300.-, and every 12'000km it's a big service that cost a bit more, usually 500-600.-. And hey are things to be changed often (or not) depending on your driving like the tires (and it's a whole budget on big bikes ;) ). Scooters are usually serviced every 10'000km or once a year, and it's a bit cheaper.
Pika, Mar 27, 2009 @ 11:56
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Re: Motorbike in Switzerland with A1 license
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Mar 28, 2009 @ 22:12
Thank you everyone for your assistance and good ideas. So what did I do.
I test drove a Honda varadero XLV 125 and really enjoyed it. Not too powerful, handled great and was very stable on the Motorway. Seating position was very comfortable for me as a tall driver.
That was it for me. Bought! Insurance I got a good deal from Zurich. Teil kasko, with a In Use PLUS policy, whereby the agent gave me a 25% discount, to have him the bother of deactivating my policy when i return the license plates to Car License bureau (strassenverkehrsamt) and then reverse when the winter is over.
Business demands and work abroad, so I must wait a couple of weeks till I collect the bike. Then the long evenings and Sundays will be much more fun.
I test drove a Honda varadero XLV 125 and really enjoyed it. Not too powerful, handled great and was very stable on the Motorway. Seating position was very comfortable for me as a tall driver.
That was it for me. Bought! Insurance I got a good deal from Zurich. Teil kasko, with a In Use PLUS policy, whereby the agent gave me a 25% discount, to have him the bother of deactivating my policy when i return the license plates to Car License bureau (strassenverkehrsamt) and then reverse when the winter is over.
Business demands and work abroad, so I must wait a couple of weeks till I collect the bike. Then the long evenings and Sundays will be much more fun.
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Thank you everyone for your assistance and good ideas. So what did I do.
I test drove a Honda varadero XLV 125 and really enjoyed it. Not too powerful, handled great and was very stable on the Motorway. Seating position was very comfortable for me as a tall driver.
That was it for me. Bought! Insurance I got a good deal from Zurich. Teil kasko, with a In Use PLUS policy, whereby the agent gave me a 25% discount, to have him the bother of deactivating my policy when i return the license plates to Car License bureau (strassenverkehrsamt) and then reverse when the winter is over.
Business demands and work abroad, so I must wait a couple of weeks till I collect the bike. Then the long evenings and Sundays will be much more fun.
olivetree, Mar 28, 2009 @ 22:12
I test drove a Honda varadero XLV 125 and really enjoyed it. Not too powerful, handled great and was very stable on the Motorway. Seating position was very comfortable for me as a tall driver.
That was it for me. Bought! Insurance I got a good deal from Zurich. Teil kasko, with a In Use PLUS policy, whereby the agent gave me a 25% discount, to have him the bother of deactivating my policy when i return the license plates to Car License bureau (strassenverkehrsamt) and then reverse when the winter is over.
Business demands and work abroad, so I must wait a couple of weeks till I collect the bike. Then the long evenings and Sundays will be much more fun.
olivetree, Mar 28, 2009 @ 22:12
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