http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/specials/the_arab_spring/Swiss_freeze_assets_as_Mubarak_steps_do

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/specials/the_arab_spring/Swiss_freeze_assets_as_Mubarak_steps_down.html?cid=29476118

Thanks :)

so, it is gonna make any differnce?

For all the Egyptians, who participated in the revolution, there will be a big difference :).

well the thing is, i don't see a big difference at all, things are pretty weird in 3rd world countries, it was a revolution against the Mubarak, but what about the system he made, you can change a person over night but when it comes about changing the system, people behave, you can't change it overnight. so we will have to see what comes next. another mubarak, that’s what i'm expecting or maybe worse than that, a civil war, riots in lust of power

It is not against Mobarak, it is against the whole system he made. All the corrupted people, who were in Mobarak system don't exist anymore and many of them are in the court now.

http://www.france24.com/en/20110210-multiculturalism-failed-immigration-sarkozy-live-broadcast-tf1-france-public-questions

Sarkozy declares multiculturalism "a failure"

"We have been too concerned about the identity of the person who was arriving and not enough about the identity of the country that was receiving him," he said in a television interview in which he declared the concept a "failure."  
              
British Prime Minister David Cameron last month pronounced his country's long-standing policy of multiculturalism a failure, calling for better integration of young Muslims to combat home-grown extremism.

Norway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f1P-d3gFEk&feature=player_embedded#at=25

Norway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1pMM51whL8&feature=related

Brittain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62KBAjpjjGM&feature=related

Richard Dawkins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhYus6TiGEE&feature=player_embedded

you know, i saw the same revolution in pakistan against pervaiz mushraf. Whole nation was against him. i'm not exactly sure why that case was not highlighted on the western media. Maybe just because he was the only ally of america in so called war against terrorism. His all corrupted people were kicked out from the system, and now what? System is even worse, more corrupted than ever before. It takes year or sometimes decades to bring a change. Even in Europe it took decades and countless lives to bring change.  

Jacob: What do you want ?

We are talking about the revolution !!!!! not about a religion !!!!

oh back to the Egypt thread

but well the point  is not multiculturism but monoculturism

there is one culture there anyway but somehow

I am afraid that

" love is a great glue but there´s no cement  like mutual hate"

   so now that Mubarak is away the military takes over and then what?

is there actually anyone there with  a PLAN like some thoughts on what they want to see happening 

because otherwise i cant be too optimistic about a military control

i mean does that sound promising to you ?

i wish i could believe in miracles but the red sea was crossed only once and since the Israelites left not much has changed ..            

First what happened was not a revolution against Mubarak.. It's a revolution against everything we dislike in this country.. This is just the beginning.. The next days are much harder.. And for sure we will change it to the best.....

The military will control the country for a certain period and after that there will be elections to elect a new president. After that we will start our journey again with the new president....

Good question!  The examples leadership change in Pakistan provethis time and again although the removal of their leaders were not the result of popular protest but as a result of foreign pressure and internal corruption and jostling for power to a great deal.  Although having said that Tariq Ali sees the possibility of a popular bottom up revolt in AfPak: http://www.counterpunch.org/tariq09102010.html

But what that might lead to is also the question.  Better in any event than the current situation? (The "current situation" as described in Ali's 'The Duel: Pakistan on the flight path of American power http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_6_54?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=the+duel+pakistan+on+the+flight+path+of+american+power&sprefix=the+duel+pakistan+on+the+flight+path+of+american+power

Let us hope not.  And although it is not for the people of foreign countries to interfere in Egyptian affairs we can inform ourselves of our own governments' involvement and try to influence our institutions not to interfere but rather to support democracy.  Admittedly a rather naive view on my part that we outsiders could influence our institutions.  So we are left with an almost wait and see and hope situation.

I read many posts at the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (cbc.ca) that express the fear and belief that the events in Egypt will lead to Islam and Muslims taking over the world.  How is one to react to this when Muslims represent approximately 1 in 4 or 5 inhabitants of the world, is diverse and dispersed throught the world with cultural influences from the native populations on the original Islamic teachings of the 'conquistadors' of Islam (as was and is the case with Christianity). Islam is also practised in incredibly poor countries lacking military, political and economic resources comparable to those of the US, the NATO partners, Russia, Australia, South and Central America.  Our western countries include long and well established legal structures, police forces, and intelligence agencies.  Given all that and assuming that all of the 80 million Egyptians are members of the MB and are prepared and able to wage jihad alongside the smaller numbers of Hezbollah and Hamas (separated by distance) how are we to believe that we iin the 'west' will be taken over now that Mubarak is gone? Is this another red scare by fearful idiot realists?

But the Islamic jihadists are crafty beggars as witness how 9/11 and the London tube bombings - not to mention the manufactured threats due to intrapment in the US and Canada - led to total chaos among the population in Britain, the US and Canada annd now our economies are destroyed, all our women are circumcised living under Burquas and we are following Sharia law.  Look under your bed and in your closet - there's an Islamic jihadist hiding there!

“Across the Middle East, and most dramatically in Egypt, Arab publics are embracing the most fundamental of American values freedom and democracy. Yet America is being viewed with suspicion not so much as an inspiration for, or ally of, freedoms march.

It does not have to be this way, but first America will have to abandon its defensive crouch and clearly embrace this change as an historic opportunity.

America’s record of support for Arab autocrats cannot be erased. That extended episode reveals an uncomfortable truth about America’s role in the Middle East: American political values and American policy remain estranged. For too long, American policy has been based on two sides of the same coin. In the Arab world, the United States supports autocracies, some more brutal than others. In Israel and the territories it controls, America supports a democracy on paper, but one that denies basic rights and freedoms for Palestinians”.

America, Welcome to the Era of Arab Democracy: By Amjad Atallah, Daniel Levy

New America Foundation, February 10, 2011

http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2011/america_welcome_to_the_era_of_arab_democracy_44467

hi

If you are suggesting America abandon its defensive crouch and CLEARLY embrace this change as an historical opportunity

i am truly puzzled my learned friend ,

as it is not CLEAR at all what is going to happen 

and second of all, it is not a black and white scene 

Somehow i feel safer with Americans monitoring what is going on 

and being cautious than an approach of lets accept this because we want it to turn out good

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage , concludes that it will also make better soup"

                                            H.L. Mencken

The point being that we dont know what is going to happen, we hope that it will be a good life for the egyptian people and good energy and hope that will spread throughout the region but as people who have lived through times of war more than peace we know realistically to be cautious and not let fate take its course without attempting to defend the democratic people who have order and debate against the forces of chaos and violence.

It not a black and white world however it is a world where order will not come to be without a lot of work, good planning, and a value system that prefers peaceful co existence to destruction and violence.

I would not be too quick to judge the USA policy before we have seen how that part of the world does without intervention..

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