Hello Tuuli,

its true, there are many people who don't respect this and send msgs trying to date people etc but as you said, most of them are nothing special and easy to ignore.. thats what I do... and after a while you stop receiving.

You have to see also that some girls "promote" them selfs a lot which also create this idea... but if anyone send you a "bad" msg just go on their profile and report, I am sure that if you explain the site admin will remove them, they do this if the person does not respect the website policy.

as for going and promoting events, don't worry... most people are nice and after a while you start knowing them.. if you are new try a full one, new members drinks are usually nice and you can find "old" members there.

Good luck.

I also used to get messages like that, and also guys trying to chat with me (that's when I turned the chat function off). As far as I remember I always reported these people to the admin - and soon their profile disappeared. I think it would be good to report them systematically - a lot of girls don't want to annoy the admin or are ashamed or something - but it's important to track these filthy guys! So, do report them!

This is not a specific problem of glocals, it happens on many of these kind of websites. But don't worry - these guys are never interested in going to activities. You will only meet nice people there :-)

And maybe it's also a question of the picture - I suggest you change it to, say, you with a ski helmet or something, and see what happens! :-)

"And surely no girl actually answers these random messages from complete strangers anyways?"

Unfortunately, there is a crowd of girls who hang out online on Glocals just to wait people to chat to them. Also these are the crowd who probably gives the guys a reson to continue their missusage of the site. Thing goes also vice versa, there are girls who chat to random guys as well....

Any case, try to cope with it. Site has quite a lot to give for a Geneva new comer.

Niin, ja tervetuloa! Rohkeasti vain kaikkiin tapahtumiin mukaan. Suosittelen lämpimästi.

I've been around for a year so I'm not a newbie anymore. This place got me started when I came to Geneva without knowing anyone. I've attended a number of glocals events and the majority of the crowd that I've met there are all right. But this atmosphere of being constantly hit on online and in some of the parties (way more aggressively than in non-expat parties) is one of the reasons I've been keeping distance to the glocals gang.

I report some of these messages, especially those that seem to come from very sleazy guys. But I think that sometimes these are normal guys who are just clueless about online etiquette. This is actually one of the reasons I wrote this post: maybe some of them will read this and think twice before sending a friendly message to a girl with a nice profile.

And yeah, I guess it happens the other way around too, girls wanting to be contacted and chatting with random guys. I wish they'd keep this activity to other forums, too.

Two solutions. Hide the data, only important thing is to show you're interested in an event. Anything else you chose to share. 

Second, just get an unattractive profile image and the problem should be solved :-). 

I say this as a guy, and yes I do respect the boundaries before you ask. 

In your profile, change your gender/sex to "Male"

That way, if a man looking for awoman searches the site, he won't come up with your profile.

Of course, this won't stop the folks who see your photo after you've organized an event or poseted a message (or RSVP's for an event), but it will eliminate the folks who search profiles looking for females to hook up with.

At least I think that would work on this site.

But I also think you can just ignore the guys who inquire.  And if you are at an event and a guy is too forward, you can just do what you've likely had to do a million times at any of the clubs you've attended.  You just tell the guy you aren't interested and then move on.  I don't think it's entirely fair to blame guys for being "too forward" when you are out at a club.  I am sure it is mostly because they are from a different culture than you are from. What is "too forward" in Geneva might not be "too forward" in Berlin or San Francisco or Paris, for example.  (I don't know anything about the culture in Geneva...nor in Berlin or Paris, for that matter!!)  I don't think it is a glocals pheonomenon but a general cultural phenomenon.  But that is just a guess.

I think this problem occurs everywhere. I remember in my teenage years when I was a very different person, I was shy, and consequently I was unsuccessful with women. I changed as I got older, and became more confident - and everything changed. And here lies the problem, in life its the man who is expected to ask for a date, to initiate sexual relations, to go to the next step. And that is what is essentially creating a double edged sword for you and other women. On one side you don't have to worry about making the move, (and very importantly having to worry about exposing one's self to the fear of rejection), you can just let men take the initiative, but the negative aspect of this situation is that you will receive attention that is not always wanted.

We, as a society, push men to be aggressive and bold. If you, as a man, are shy and too respectiful (as in he does not take the initiative because he is afraid he offend the lady) you will end up a loner - this is fact of life. Unfortunately, this aggressive stance, translates to the undesirable behaviour you mentioned in the post, or even offensive behaviour where certain men do not understand when the lady is not interested and keep persisting. Perhaps, the problem is that we as a society value this boldness in male bahevour too much, but I don't this will ever change, men will always be expected to be the initiators.

Personally, I find it weird to just send a stranger an invite to go to coffee. I must have first met them, or had a conversation with them, or somehow formed some kind of connection, before I ask them to a date. But to just ask someone on a date without even an initial conversation is a bit strange to me. I think these guys play a numbers game. Send 50 messages and hope they get lucky... I think something is wrong with this, but perhaps I am old fashioned...

As to the official rules of glocals, I think 'its not supposed to be a dating site" is too vague and useless. Does it mean you not allowed to ask members of the opposite gender for coffee, or instead not send random dating messages to people who have not met... if you meet the girl of your dreams at a glocals event are you forbidden from asking her on date? I think it should be explicitly stated exactly what is meant and not kept vague. Thats the best way to resolve these problems -  a vague rule is useless as it is open to interpretation too much. 

I don't think it would be much of a surprise to anyone who has visited to Switzerland that non-Swiss ("ex-pats") are likely to be "more aggressive" than the Swiss.

No offense whatsoever to all of my Swiss friends, but they are far less "aggressive" than any of my friends from ANY other country on the planet.  INCLUDING Fins!! 

:-)

(well, I can only speak about my Finnish friends, who may be nuttier than the average Fin)

Honestly, I do not mean that as an "insult," at all.  In fact, for many people that is a compliment.  They (like you) prefer the "non-aggressive" approach to the aggressive approach.  

Hi Tuuli

We do what we can to keep glocals friendly and safe, including repeating the mantra 'glocals is not a dating site' over and over and over.

Sadly, not everyone respects rules / guidelines, and creeps exist on social networks and in the 'real' world.

The only solution I can give you is to report people who act inapropriately so I can get rid of them.  I know alot of people feel bad about reporting others, and they prefer to just ignore the problem, but if someone bothers you, he probably bothers other people too.

When we get a complaint about someone, depending on the severity of the complaint, we either warn the person, without mentioning too many details, or we block their profile.

Don't let a few creeps ruin your experience here.  Alot of people put alot of effort into making glocals a fun place, and ensuring that people respect each other, and our guidelines, is something we can all help with.

Oded

Oded,

A gentle suggestion. Do you think it would be possible to explicitly define what is meant by "glocals is not a dating site" and this communicated to all members.

For example, it can interpreted as "glocals members are forbidden to ask other members met at glocals events or forums to any kind of date or social interaction with romantic overtones". 

or it can be: "glocals members are forbidden from sending dating messages to other glocals members who they have never met in person before" (fishing behaviour described by the reader above).

I think it needs to be explicetily defined, and communicated to everyone, this will allow you to enforce the rules better, and resolve some of the confusion that some members are having, and hopefully create an enjoyable environment all.

Cheers, Angelos

Oded, can I send compliments to some guys? :-))))) pleeeeeeeease (honestly I respect rules and yes, there are plenty of freaks...)

In my opinion, it depends a lot on our own mental state and the way we look at things. There are times when girls do need attention and they won't find it offensive if any guy approaches, as long as they have the decision to choose. But if they don't need attention for whatever reason, that is when these guys become a pain for them, rather any guy sitting across on a bar counter becomes a pain then. I have seen quite a few of my friends clearly writing on their profiles to keep random guys out and I guess that helps too. At least u r giving a clear signal of "No entry".

What Alan says about aggressiveness, sounds partially correct to me. But in any case, hardly anyone would succeed by such mass mailing :-) 'cuz if he doesn't hold enough content factor when it comes to having some interesting and sensible talks face to face, he is going to end up a loser anyway!

I am neither in favour nor against such behaviour but I do observe people, especially when I attend the parties and I am of the opinion that these guys are in essence starving for attention. When I say attention, I definitely don't mean sex. We all need friends and we do need someone to love and to share life with. Based on my travel experience so far in various parts of the world, I can say that Switzerland is a place where it is tougher to make local friends, leave aside finding a soul-mate.

People who have earned their opportunity to land in Europe and to a beautiful place like this, if this society makes them sit alone at the bar counter while the locals are having party... how far can you handle the frustration of being lonely in a country where they hardly even talk your language? Ever thought from this angle? I have no embarrassment in telling that I have had serious depression problem in first 3 months here because I never felt so lonely and cut out from society before. If I had not learnt the rules of being here and the "Swiss" way of socializing, I don't know what I might have come to because I am extremely talkative and just can't be quite in a party. Harassing girls takes you nowhere but nor does silence...

Reporting such people to Admin is a good option as Eva and the Admin himself says, but my suggestion to a girl is also to think why someone behaves this way. Can't he calculate that this mass mailing is not giving him much hit ratio? Why is he trying so desperately to meet someone... meet anyone! Can someone be just lunatic to be following 50 girls at a time or that he wants to meet just one but doesn't know how? What makes the person reach a level where he doesn't mind which girl talks to him as long as someone does? What makes him someone with no choice?

Reporting to admin is easy and with less headache, just like putting someone in jail. You throw him out of community and feel safe. But also understand that people coming out of jail don't come out as saints... maybe harsher criminals! I am not asking girls to turn social reformers but I think there is a need to think deeper on such issues we have around us, on almost every social networking site.

Vishal

Hi all,

It's an interesting conversation! Just to answer a couple of points:

Yes I could change my profile setting to "male", keep everything hidden, change my picture. And I've felt that saying it on my profile that I don't want dating suggestions would sound too weird, but maybe it could be a good idea. The reason why I'm at glocals is that I want to make new friends, and I want people who I meet in glocals events to be able to find me and see some information about me. Isn't this the purpose of this site? People shouldn't have to hide because of freaks.

I didn't phrase it very well earlier, but I don't have a problem with guys approaching me in glocals events, parties, etc. That's normal social behavior, that's how people meet, and if I'm not interested, I just turn guys down nicely (or not so nicely if they're being impolite). It's the unwanted online contact that bothers me.

"my suggestion to a girl is also to think why someone behaves this way. -- What makes the person reach a level where he doesn't mind which girl talks to him as long as someone does? What makes him someone with no choice?"

Frankly, I don't care. These guys are complete strangers to me, and they need to find other ways of dealing with their problems than harassing women.

Oded, thanks for the reply - I wanted to bring this up so that you admins know that this is a real problem. An example: I wanted to start a group, but was hesitant because I knew it would draw some unwanted attention to myself. I decided to do it anyway, but just like I guessed, within a few days after my group was activated, I've gotten several random messages from unknown guys. It really increases the threshold to be active on this site when you know that every time you organize something or post something, you have random messages coming in. But I'll start to report them systematically.

Maybe being more explicit what is OK and what is not in the guidelines, like angelos suggested, might be a good idea. There seems to be a fair number of people to whom these things are unclear - in addition to these real jerks who aren't going to follow any rules anyway.

well, now I am curious: why is it important that you say that you are "female"?

Also, I don't think anyone suggested you keep "everything" hidden

ps  as to how "normal" people meet, plenty of people "meet" anonymously, via web site, and then LATER they have an in-person encounter, AFTER they have gotten to know each other. Some people prefer figuring out if someone is a freak before they actually meet them in person.

I am not saying that you have to change your ways, and I am not saying that freaks aren't contacting you.  I am only saying that your definition of "normal" is not the same as every other person's. 

I have many relationships with people who I have never met in flesh and blood.  We share interests, and I've gotten to know them over time.  That's a great benefit of the internet, since many "real" commuynities may not have enough people in it that share your interests.  Or you can't all be in the same cafe at the same time, but you can catch up via  message board. Entirely normal behavior.  (of course, I don't PM them and ask them on dates - but I'd not hesitate to meet the ones I like in person)

I do also recognize that this is a weirder issue for women than for men. The world is a freakier place for women than men, unfortunately.

"my suggestion to a girl is also to think why someone behaves this way. -- What makes the person reach a level where he doesn't mind which girl talks to him as long as someone does? What makes him someone with no choice?"

=> Frankly, I don't care. These guys are complete strangers to me, and they need to find other ways of dealing with their problems than harassing women.

This reply itself explains a lot to me. No wonder the world is getting freakier day by day. God bless us all :-)

I just click delete or ignore.. its not really worth all this attention is it?

These guys are complete strangers to me, and they need to find other ways of dealing with their problems than harassing women.

This reply itself explains a lot to me. No wonder the world is getting freakier day by day. God bless us all :-)

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Vishal, 

You're not going to win this argument. People who harass others may have any number of logical sequences that led to that, but it is 100% wrong and 100% not the person who is being harassed's responsibility.

- P

That last part made me laugh.

So, is it a curse? :)

Hi Tuuli,

I am glad you cleared that up. Yes the real problem is jerks. However, they will always be there. So you may choose to hide, but I think that means that they won.

"This is not a dating site" is explicit enough I think. Clearly it does not mean "This is a no-dating site" as you said such things come with social behavior. However, it is clear enough that here conversations should be activities-oriented. Now, for some people getting a coffee to get to know someone(s) new is an activity, and maybe for others it's climbing a mountain with them.

Could you be a little more specific about unwanted online contact though? Did you mean specific types of online contact, or no online contact at all.

For example, how should Onis properly complement all those guys... if she doesn't know I am worried she might get reported!

Cheers,

-P

Dating in the anglosphere is indeed a bit of a mess.

I definitely don't support or try to find any logic in this behaviour. As for winning argument, that is something I am least bothered about cuz "In any argument there are 3 sides, your side, my side and the right side".

The behaviour is wierd for sure and definitely not healthy. Neither for the one being harassed nor for the one harassing others. Only intention behind putting my thoughts here, is to think deeper in human behaviour and sentiments than just keeping our own house clean and closing eyes to what happens around us.

Shooting a criminal is always easy. But what a society needs is eradicating crime. Question is if we are fighting crime or criminals and the answers here show me fight against criminals. Faces will change, people will get blocked, new ones will come. Are we actually fighting crime? And the answer I got from the affected person is... "I DON'T CARE". Then no wonder we have more wierdos borning here.

God bless us, what else to say! :-)

I agree with you 100% pnaik.

@Vishal - People are lonely, they have sad stories and a million reasons why they do what they do, but once they start harrasing / bothering others, it's not up to the harassed to play shrink and try to understand the person harassing them.

@everyone - In case someone missed this - If someone bothers you on glocals, please let me know.  We won't automatically block someone because they said 'hi, nice to meet you' but yeah, sad as it may be, some people just don't belong here.

Oded

 If you dont like it, don't participate, respond, engage, or encourage.  Its pretty simple, turn your chat to friends, and delete emails.. why all this attention over something so silly? really?  This is a little bit of a whine fest in my opinion.. 

Alan - so you think that I should just lie in my profile that I'm male? Sorry but I think that people should not need to hide their gender. And those types of social interaction online that you describe are all normal to me. I've had friends who I've never met IRL (meeting first online through common interests). And although I've personally never used internet dating services, I don't see anything wrong with that. But this is not a dating site, and these strangers who are suggesting a date are not looking for an online friendship. There's a clear difference there.

Vishal, if lacking empathy towards people who are harassing me makes me a freak or a bad person, then so be it.

@Lexi - I admire your attitude, but I still think that if someone is bothering you, he is probably bothering other members too.

Ignore him, and he will just keep on bothering more and more people.  Report him to me, and I'll try to make sure he does not bother more people.

Oded

True, there are ways to handle it, especially if one gets complacent and has this happen to them all the time.

However, no one deserves to be treated poorly or to be made to feel uncomfortable every time they post an event. I think that's all Tuuli is trying to say, is that it is a problem that does occur.

It might be a societal problem and not a glocals problem, but it's nice to have the reminder from Oded that there are some options and that people don't just have to sit around and take inappropriate behavior.

Noone has ever bothered me. That's the point. I receive all these same unwanted emails, I highly doubt these guys are selective about the girls they mail... This is not exclusive to Glocals..Unwanted emails from everyone! I don't accept them, or open them.. so seeing an unread email or an unanswered chat invitation doesn't offend me.  I don't allow it to.  Whats the point? Why is anyone answering a chat invitation they didn't want?   Maybe its because I work as a bartender, but I don't think its that hard to "fend off" a man's advances, particularly, when digitalized.   

pnaik - more specifically, if I'm active on the site (posting something on the forum, attending some events, now being a new group admin) I get 1-5 messages per week basically of the contect "Hi, how are you, you seem nice, would you like to go for a coffee". From complete strangers, meaning that I've never had any interaction with them even on the forums. I've disabled my chat a long time ago because whenever I was online, I got chat messages every 15 minutes.

Lexillent, that's the thing. I do nothing to encourage these people or encage into any kind of correspondance with them. I don't have my relationship status anywhere, I never reply these, I'm not that active on glocals. But hate that attending any kind of activity on glocals means that I have to go through the trouble of deleting these messages. It's a bit like random catcalls on the street - easy enough to ignore, but it still bothers many people.

I have the same issue as soon as I sign on, I tend to treat it like spam mail. Just feel a little sorry for the guys who have to resort to emailing every girl, when there are so many events to go to and to talk to real people.

Pnaik, flirt is in my blood :))))))))) hope, I won't get reported

For anyone who is annoyed by all of the male attention now, wait 10-15 years.  After it stops you'll become even more annoyed.

well said :-)

I am loving this discussion.

With the obvious risk of being considered as a chauvinist, I find this comment hilarious :D

I'll check back in 15 years.. will that still be a Monday?

I respectively disagree. "This is not a dating site" is not explicit at all. Its just says that this is a general social site, and not a site used exclusively used for dating.

If there is certain behavior that needs to be disallowed, and this is to be enforced, then it is logical that it be clearly defined and communicated to all people. "This is not a dating site can mean" many things, like:

1) "You are forbiden from sending dating messages or messages with romantic intent to other glocals members"

2) "One is forbidden to try forming romantic relationships with people met through glocals"

3) "You cannot send dating messages (asking to meet for coffee for example) to people you never met before offline"

4) "You cannot send dating messages to people you never met before (online or offline).

5) "You are forbidden to ask anyone on a date at a glocals event, or following the glocals event"

etc...

And depending on you ask, they will all have a different interpretation. In a previous thread, I asked about dating rules, and many people said that there is no universal set of rules of behaviour in dating that applies to everyone, as long as they get along thats fine... and thats the problem, people have different perspectives and opinions - and as such they will interpret "this is not a dating site" differently.

And what is wrong with making it more explicit. It will protect the people who feel they are been harashed, it will assist the people who are sending this messages clearly know what rule they are breaking, and it will assist the admins in properly regulating unwanted behaviour since they can follow a clearly defined policy. Everyone wins... no?

Wonder if this thread would even have started if the spammer/annoying guy was somewhere close to a Brad Pitt or any catalog model.... I`d not ignore him :O (just joking, guys)

girls...feel free to spam me.

I may click ignore, I may not, depends on my mood and alcohol intake at the time.

You and me both ;-)

Guess the ugly people know their place on "normal" social interaction circuimstances and avoid the social contact because of the sheer akwardness or the bouncer denying their entry

But still I think Wanessa you're into something with this.

I was just about to mention this.  "Unwanted male attention" in girlspeak translates to "attention from males whom I do not like."  If it's from a male that she likes, bring on the coffee proposal!

The men who are mass e-mailing the girls on Glocals aren't making any effort to qualify themselves or build any kind of rapport.  It's no wonder they are being rejected left-and-right.

That said, it's easy to block communications from other members, no?

Richard, lol, you're probably right - I'll promise to complain again then. But I still reserve the right to be annoyed now :-)

Lexillent, I'm absolutely sure they're not selective, and everyone's getting these messages. But being very used to harassment even outside the nightlife is probably one of the things that makes bartenders different from scientists...

As I see it, there are two approaches to deal with this: either to require that all girls have a thick skin, or to try to make guys stop harassing women. I think the latter would be preferable.

"I get 1-5 messages per week"

Fully understand that not everyone is interested in receiving invites for coffee and in maybe some case less polite invites. To start a whole thread because you receive on average of 3 unwanted emails a week, might just get you that extra bit attention that you don't want.

I would agree if you get 20 messages a day and after a few days of not checking your mails leave your laptop injured cause of pressing "Delete".

With al do respect, I find this a bit exaggerated, besides an email should have been sent to the admin first before starting a thread like this. Only in the case they give no support you could have asked support from the community. I take back my words if you did all this. Now to me it only seems you're looking for attention and sympathy.

When will they develop an ugly guy filter for the chat or email...

hahahaha, this kind of comment makes my day. love people with humor. Thx Jay!

Copy/Paste from Lotus doesn't seem to work well, but then I ain't got ma own office and 4 screens like Charlie has...

hopefully at the same time as they have a "babe" filter for us guys... and seeing as the "Admins" are guys, Im kinda hoing that my one comes first.

Charlie are you telling me there are some women on here who aren't "Babes"?

hoping...not hoing...slip of the finger there, my bad sorry.

And yes thomas, on quiet trading days i have room to filter ;-)

I think it's fair to say that emailing someone you've never met or talked to is probably "bothering" that person and contrary to glocals "rules."

I don't think Tuuli is saying that it should be against the rules to send a private message to someone you've met at a glocals event, is that right?

Candidly, I don't know why anyone lists their gender.  If you don't want unwanted emails, then just don't list your gender.

 Also, as to how "normal" people meet, plenty of people "meet" anonymously, via web site's message board or chat room (just as we are meeting now), and then LATER they have an in-person encounter, AFTER they have gotten to know each other. Some people prefer figuring out if someone is a freak before they actually meet them in person.   You may get to know them via the internet for weeks before you are interested in meeting them in person.  That's not really "abnormal," and it might be a whole lot more normal than agreeing to go to coffee with someone after meeting them in person ONCE at a club.

I am not saying that you (Tuuli) have to change your ways, and I am not saying that freaks aren't contacting you.  I am only saying that your definition of "normal" is not the same as every other person's. 

I have many relationships with people who I have never met in flesh and blood.  We share interests, and I've gotten to know them over time.  That's a great benefit of the internet, since many "real" communities may not have enough people in it that share your interests.  Or you can't all be in the same cafe at the same time, but you can catch up via message board. Entirely normal behavior.  (of course, I don't PM them and ask them on dates - but I'd not hesitate to meet the ones I like in person)

I do also recognize that this is a weirder issue for women than for men. The world is a freakier place for women than men, unfortunately.

By the way, men do also get PMs from women (and men) they have never met.  I assume most of these are just spam (phishing?), trying to get my email address.  They're not "freaks," they're bots.  (But I assume glocals has techniques for eliminating that issue.)

Anyway, interesting discussion.  I don't mean to "defend" the actual "freaks."

The same day they develop a superficial gal filter ;-P

All woman are beautiful in their own way...

A big noise from nothing. Just close the window if you find the request too outrageous, or the email boringly monotoneous. And there is a nice feature if you do not want to be bothered: turn off chat. Now that you can choose to chat to 'only friends', 'no one', or 'everyone', where is the problem? Worst case report them, though I doubt it's necessary.

would anyone like to meet for coffee?

ps  I am a freak.

a babe for me is not nessessarily a babe for someone else, and vice versa, so I would like my own "babe settings" please, that i can personalise according to my own taste.... also with an

"Im drunk accept all" button that flashes red after 11pm at night...

he he

Bingo  !!!

beauty is really in the eyes of the beholder ( or in this case, the recipient)

Ugly guys are useful to make the average guys look good in comparison , we all have a place on this site.. Let's hear for the ugly guys .. Hoorah..

Damn, you beat me to it. I was going to say the same thing. LOL :-D

Alan: "I think it's fair to say that emailing someone you've never met or talked to is probably "bothering" that person and contrary to glocals "rules."

I don't think Tuuli is saying that it should be against the rules to send a private message to someone you've met at a glocals event, is that right?"

Exactly.

Alan: "I don't know why anyone lists their gender.  If you don't want unwanted emails, then just don't list your gender."

That's not possible, as far as I can see. You have to define female or male.

Thomas: "an email should have been sent to the admin first before starting a thread like this. Only in the case they give no support you could have asked support from the community."

The site already provides the possibility to report these unwanted messages, so I don't think they're neglecting this problem altogether. I think this is exactly the place to discuss what kind of behavior on the glocals website is appropriate and what kind opf community we what this to be. Maybe some poor guy who doesn't quite know how to approach girls will read this thread and understand that emailing an unknown girl whose profile seems nice isn't a proper thing to do.

ShineA, I'm talking about messages in my inbox, not chat, which I've inabled a long time ago. It's great if you're not bothered by unwanted messages from strangers, but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who is.

to avoid such synchronization issues, you should have chatted to another beforehand

which?  That I am a freak?

if so, then we should DEFINITELY get together for coffee

sorry, I really don't mean to make light of Tuuli's concerns, and as you can see from most of my posts on this subject, I do think it is a real issue.  I may just see the issue a little differently than she does.  But I honestly don't mean to make light of her concerns.  The world, including this virtual world, is a weirder one for women. 

Not fair!! I don't drink coffee   Tea anyone?

haha... it makes a scientist different from a bartender.. Geez this is comedic.  Was that supposed to be thinly veiled?

 Let me tell you this much.  After reading these post I would be suprised anyone is asking you out. You really don't seem like too much fun!  You probably just solved your own problem.

P.S. A sense of humor will get you far in life and love.

Tuuli, you are right - I just checked and it looks like you have to select male or female.

I guess we could question why that is.  Is that really needed, except on sites that are for "dating"?

I took Tuuli's comment to mean that a bartender has wayyy more social interactions with the public than a scientist does, so the bartender is more apt to be able to brush such unwanted advances off. 

Maybe not a dating site , but certainly this is a dating thread..

I assumed along time ago, that every male I meet is interested in me.. it makes life alot of fun, and take the drama and the curiousness out of my relationships with people.  So it does not matter to me if the man is in my bar or in my classes. I already assume they are in love ;)

They are interested everyone , especially Charlie after 11pm.

Bartenders are just good with people.

re : " I assumed along time ago, that every male I meet is interested in me.. it makes life alot of fun, and take the drama and the curiousness out of my relationships with people." .....

exactly the same for me ...

oopss... wrong dating site !!

You cant fault men for being men.. Hey, they message pretty girls.. good for them!  Be thankful you're one of the girls getting messaged, I am sure there are plenty who are wishing they had this kind of attention.  And if you are not interested, its as easy as an ignore or a delete.  Really, I just can't understand that this is a huge problem for someone they felt it necessary to create such an issue out of this.  Life is easy .. lets play nice and have some fun ;)

I don't know if you were kidding when you wrote the first sentence, or if it is out of vanity, or if it really is a philosophical approach of your's to life.  But if it is the latter, it's really quite healthy, I think, and probably something we should all adopt.  Being insecure about such things doesn't really help anyone, does it?

Interesting.

But maybe you were kidding and I should just get back to work!!

Onis soit qui mal y pense...

Totally agree with Lexillent!

:)

"I think it's fair to say that emailing someone you've never met or talked to is probably "bothering" that person and contrary to glocals "rules."

To my knowledge, Glocals is a platform where expats and the sort can connect. If I see some girls profile, who I think I have quite some things in common with, nothing would stop me from not asking her out for a coffee or a beer (unless I now get the banstick from dear admin - I have no history of assaulting woman on glocals, so please be considered). Common interests is all we look for in a friendship I suppose, may it be a man or a woman. Otherwise we all have to start our own glocals party topic "Saturday 19:00 beer with Charlie plz?" to get in contact with that one interesting person.

Ofcourse there are those invites you ain't waiting for and they will always be there. Also afraid that these horny guys don't read this but got straight to - woman with picture under 30 ; ) -

I guess the only option for people with these kinda complaints, is to have an option to only receive messages from friends. In "filthy" cases they probably use the banstick. For coffee invites I'm afraid you will have to stick to "delete" on your keyboard.

As I type this I get my 1st chat invite of the day, have to accept, Im such a weak man...

The more the prey feels frightened, the more the hunter feels confident?

Guess it's all a matter of interpretation. Does not matter where it is, you are the one to define the bounderies. I still say the ignore button is a wonderful tool when you really feel annoyed.

Should someone out there conduct a survey? Out of all men and women on this website how many had similar experience and how did they react? Just putting things in a scientific scope!

I'm just the honest one, and being Irish, willing to admit that alcohol levels the playing field.

(In my experience this works for women too) 

you said the magic word...drink... yes!

Time to create a Freaks group , looks like we have a few entries already

Sorry, it was not supposed to be an insult. I just meant that my job is way more boring than yours in terms of social interactions. You said before that maybe because you're a bartender that you're very used to brushing off unwanted male attention and that might be one of the reasons it doesn't bother you here either. I, and many others, have lives where the default is that people that I meet are friendly/professional and not hitting on everyone all the time, and I find it uncomfortable here.

If no one at least on glocals asks me out after this thread, I'm very happy with the result :-)

I will even write a manual: "So you want to be freak eh? All your's questions answered" ;-)

OK, OK, I have decided not to ask you out now. :-P

Attention: This Saturday night special event - Drinks n Dinner for

1. freaks,

2. attention seekers,  

3. tag holders of "i-know-i'm-HOT"

4. signboard holders of "don't-mess-with-me"

5. and well... some mass e-mailing spammers too please :-)

P.S. fan club of Charlie, please keep out till 11 pm or till Charlie is tipsy, whichever is earlier!

<   Statutory warning: I am just kidding... please Admin, don't block me :-(   >

I match almost all of those! But I will be in Montreux.. lets move the party down!

Oh, u r in Montreux? I love Montreux.... u know its the best place to b on earth... can i join u?

Warning warning warning... freak alert! Evacuate immediately... or call Admin...! 

;-)

THX to Alain P and Charlie,

we need a babe filter? a rule of engagement? talk about talking? Who is the one to throw the first stone, and is for HERself in a glashouse? For all you harrased girls ladies and all other blabla bla. Get a boyfriend / man.

Do as The lady did above, Ignore the happy few who are freaks enjoy the ones you like. spam who you want, it is your spam filter,

BUT do not pretent that you are having wishdome. If you are older and maybe more toöerant to the not so happy part of the population, that is not having all the changes you have, than you will understand.

Everybody, he or she, you will get back what you give in forums or emails. It is the modern way of mirroring, ( to get feedback on your behaviour) so SPAM ME!!!! if you want. Go to DADDY the ADMIN if you want to be a SNITCH but can just use a spam otherwise. And if content is acording to the LAW inproperiat go to STAATSANWALT.

But remember this is a communication network as the REAL sociatie, and you have to live up with it that we are all different. (lucky enough) It is hard enough to to find friends around here, that you first have to CONTACT and TALK to. Normal behaviour is that you wnat to SEE the person, so drinking a cup of coffee is not a bad idear.

And I already feel bad to contact talk and become a friend with someone that might be a partner in future. Better to do NOTHING and stay alone.

By the way partners are social, till now no sexual thoughts behind it.

Love to meet you all on the next glocal or meetups like the last TICINO trip,

have fun further here,

a very timid, and unsecure male that needs treatment after reading all above,

smile

john

oh i can get tipsy any time.... let me know when I can invite all the "hot freaks"

Y'all have way too much time on your hands.

Be careful Vishal you might be blocked :), They might limit your access to this site, you will end up using it as a calculator or a calendar :)

It's getting more and more funny as usual. Threads like this and Joe's crime rate make my day after a long working day. And seems like not only mine!

Totally true :-)

btw, I am curious to know how Joe spent his weekend in Geneva ;-)

I think Tuuli and Lexi should have a little wrestle, and then I'll take you both for coffee.

The guys will definitely want to watch that :)

This thread is starting to sound funny, maybe there are some issues on glocals but is over-exaggerated to say that are freaks, wild hunters or nasty players and so on, glocals is really soft from this point of view.

Even if they are some people trying to pick up women, men they will give up after a couple of tries. I tried to talk a couple of times with some girls, not really for dating or maybe a little bit :) and is not working. I'm sure that are some people a little bit crazy(nobody is perfect after all) but are some people that like to flirt and is nothing wrong about it, even on glocals. Unfortunatelly the girls on glocals don't know how to flirt or they have a low level on flirting. Flirting is like a game , one of the best games I know and probably the most part pf people that are called freaks are actually trying to play.

It is so easy to say NO, if you've got the feeling that it is a freak you just end the conversation but I can't imagine on glocals girls that are bombarded daily with messages, I really can't.

The only issue I have on glocals from this point of view is that I'm approched by men and not by women(I'm sure that Charlie is going to make a joke :)). I tried to analyze the information from my profile to see what is drawing the men and change it in order to reverse the effect.     

I could sell tickets

i could buy tickets

red rag to a bull mate...and you still owe me a beer, but Ill wait till we're surrounded by babes first....

ps..i think it might have been your first pic of u humping Jonny Wilkinson from behond that might have given the wrong impression, now that you have your "shiny" babe next to you, I hope the male contact will die down...you can always press ignore you know... or report them...lol

that made me laugh! P.S. Ironically I dont have any female friends in geneva.. if any of you fun loving, not so serious girls would like a new one.  All mine are in Lausanne =(

Lol, this is indeed became a hilarious thread. May I quote the second sentence of my original post: "I hope I'm not opening a can of worms."

I certainly don't want to have a wrestle with Lexie, I'm sure she'd kick my ass - after all I'm just a geek who spends all her days programming :-)

Hmm..and now I'll need to report pnaik to the admins for asking me out. 

Best solution - the big red chicken...works for me!

Hmm .. and now I'll need to report pnaik for NOT asking me out ..

Looks like now the Admin will b getting real busy... :-)

I asked myself out... bloody hell, I pressed the "iggy button"... now so depressed im off for a tram ride!

whoa whoa whoa, i only wrestle with boys.. lets not get me confused here

Have to say, many women assume, by default, that a stranger is trying to pick them up whenever he speaks to them / looks at them / happen to be in the same room with them.  And they may even feel insulted if he wasn't interested!

Some time ago a friend of mine was looking for Rue Machin and addressed the first person on the street -- a girl.  She replied that she didn't like being picked up in such a way.  My friend is still searching for Rue Machin.    

''surrounded by babes'' ... no comment

I always pay my debts

Interesting story. Even if he was trying to pick her up, I don't think it would be wrong, provided the guy was respectful.

I would be curious to know know how many men this lady has asked on a date... Likely, like most people she is scared of rejection, and bet you she has not asked any out. Instead of being happy that someone had the courage to go and talk to her, she acts like a spoilt brat. If she is not interested she can politely decline. I have absolutely no respect for these kinds of people.

You should analyze, what is most prominent in your PICTURE! ;)

That also leads to the conclusion, that some guys don't read profiles.

Tuuli, by simply indicating in your profile something like “happily married with 2 children” you’d screen out most unwanted folks, if that was your intention. If it was, starting this thread may appear counterproductive (hope I’m wrong).

You mean you don't actually look like that ??

duh! what was I thinking 

define "wrestle"....

Show pictures ....

Tuuli, let me just say that I understand 100% what you're talking about and why it annoys you. I guess most guys on this forum can't really understand what this is all about but I don't blame them, they're on the other side ;-) sorry guys...

It's not any kind of message that's annoying, it's these stupid one-liners, always sent by chickens, that go like "hi, i like your profile, wanna meet for coffee?" (usually with one spelling error in each word), without saying WHY that person would be interested in meeting (obviously it's because you're blonde and female).

It also happens to me on sites like couchsurfing.org from time to time, these guys are everywhere but usually disappear from these sites quickly. I have alsways wanted to know if they actually do get a positive reply from time to time? :-)

Before the internet/forums got popular, I (and several other girls) would regularly get picked up in that way in the bus going to Cité Universitaire (where I lived about 13 years ago). It was exactly the same thing, only it was live: guy would come up, say something like "tu es jolie" and follow me into the Student hostel, ask me out for a drink, which I would refuse, he would then follow me to the elevator, sometimes even inside the elevator, and when I still refused they would treat me as "stupid and cold Swiss girl". This happened 2 or 3 times a week! Now they all have internet and just try to do the same thing on social sites (fortunately - it's way less scary online!).

As to "defining" what means "this is not a dating site" - what about using a bit of common sense?

This is NOT a dating site, well not to me anyway. Its a site for comic interludes to boring work days, and for finding out which parties are worth going to.

If people only connect with those that they have actually MET, rather than randomly accepting every connection, and click the "chat with friends" button/option, then there will be NO cases of misabused chat invitations.

Emails are simple to filter, although depending on the amounts you receive somewhat tedious to trawl through and separate from the real ones.

Frankly, you can use this site for what you want, whether its dating, parties or in my case cracking stupid jokes, so long as it doesnt seriously bother other people (male or female):

And yes I assume "dates" do happen on this site, and people do get together at parties... if it didnt happen the site would have died long ago. This place is all about meeting people and expanding your social circle in an unfamiliar setting, or in my case familiar but Im always happy making new friends.

Romance is a by product of those meetings and perfectly natural. You cant restrict that happening without restricing the parties.

Now i apologise to Tuuli for highjacking her serious thread and partly turning it into a farce... blame it on the summer markets, my general boredom, and the fact that I just cant help myself.

Human interaction, whether face to face, or now via mediums such as this are a natural nessessity for many.,... if you dont want any interaction, dont log into social networking sites...simples

Lets make it a little bit more scientific. The admins should develop filters according the the attachment prototype of each person in glocals ;-)

SECURE: Positive self-model, positive other-model
FEARFUL: Negative self-model, negative other-model
PREOCCUPIED: Negative self-model; positive other-model
DISMISSING: Positive self-model, negative other-model

See http://www.sfu.ca/psyc/faculty/bartholomew/research/attachment/prototypes.htm

I was ok with you highjacking this thread Charlie, but you are getting to serious for me now...

I bet on Alexis too :D

¨Huh? You freak !

Typical intellectual, over complicating things.

Whats wrong with 3 buttons...

- Shaggable : lights on or  lights off ?

- Ignore?

Hi folks

Before being highjacked by the one liner crew, this thread was actualy about a legitimate concern that Tuuli, and alot of other female members, have.

Regardless of what we say, or how we define the rules, there will always be some people that think sending a 'I like your profile, let's meet' message to a hundred females is ok, and when this happens alot if makes the receivers uncomfortable.

True, female members can pretend to be male or married, and/or they can remove their profile photos.  Also true that mails can be ignored and chat requests can be declined.  The point is that we want glocals to be a place where people feel comfortable and don't have to do all of the above.

We're not trying to create an atmosphere where people can't contact someone they don't know, cause this would be counter-productive to the whole 'meet new people' idea, but the phraze 'common sense' does come to mind...

If you see a profile you like, and it seems you might have some stuff in common, there's nothing wrong with sending the person a polite message.
If you find yourself sending the same lame message to 100 females, you're probably not here to make friends, and you need to join a dating site cause your time on glocals will soon be coming to an end.

Now back to one liners about wrestling, brunettes and freaks.

Oded

I think all is said here,  all your post it was really fun.

THX

hmmm, scary. I have lived in Cite Unversitaire for 2 years and the most of my neighbours there were female. I never heard of something like that happening (e.g. the aggresive elevator behaviour) and especially not 2 or 3 times a week. I guess the strange people nowadays left the streets and all went to internet.

I can understand the frustration of Eva and Tuuli. It can be irritating if random people sent you chat messages (and emails). However, as Charlie said, it is easy to solve. You can change the chat to "only with friends" if you want.

But I dont think you should see everyone who says hello to you like he wants something from you. It can also be just a friendly chat. The intention of Glocals is for expat in Geneva to expand their social circle and I think many people here just want to know new people just as friends. Many people on the social events and maybe also on the site do not start chatting with new people with the intention of having something with them. I mean I have first noticed that this site had a chat function until a girl sent me a chat request couple of weeks ago. It was not a problem for me. I had with her a nice friendly chat as friends.

However, i am not saying that everyone is perfect. If someone started behaving bad or strange, you should report him to the admins.

lol, sorry Charlie. Bad joke! There is nothing better than Shaggable and Ignore ;-)

I'm colour blind.... thought this was a redheads thread...

what about the bold???

the long short?

the fat and the ugly?

the beaus and belles?

good point you make here

I feel discriminated

If I may respectfully disagree. From one side you imply that it happens very often, and from the other side you say its common sense, which implies that it should hardly happen, since its "common" sense.... Obviously, there are many people who do this from you said, and it needs to be explicitly defined to them that this behaviour is not acceptable in the glocals community.

And if someone says that "glocals", "amazon.com", or "xyb.com" is not a dating site, common sense would be to interpret this message as those websites were not formed with the intention of being used as dating sites, but common sense does not interpret this as "you are forbidden to send romantic messages".

And in fact I am sceptical of this "common sense" notion. To me, common sense is that you don't talk about ex's during dates, you don't have sex on the first date, you don't use offensive language on the first date, etc. But in the dating rules thread, I found there was no consistency of "common sense" in this domain. I think the notion of common sense is a fallacy - everyone's is different.

I stand by the point that the best way of regulating this behaviour is to explicitly define what is not acceptable and communicate to everyone who wants to join. 

lol, catalin.. you stay out of this =)

i've read this thread with interest, and i can only conclude you are referring to a different site. i've been around for what feels like forever and my conquest list totals two: 

1. this dude once started chatting with me late at night and invites me round to his house with the promise that he'll jelly roll me. don't get me wrong, this is a nice offer and nobody was (ahum) forcing his hand, but seriously if you're going to lay that kind of stuff on the table then at least have the decency to do it before the TPG stops running. 

2. i went to my one and only glocals big party: a beachparty at plage, probably about a year ago. i was standing around chatting with a friend and this girl comes up to us and says "you're hayes, aren't you - you must be. it can only be you". now she was quite pretty and y'know, while my buddy was standing right there the timing couldn't have been better. so i gave him the sideways glance, the one that says sigh...this-happens-to-me-all-the-time... but when i turned back and admitted to being the one she thought i was, the crazy tart tips 2/3 of a glass of beer over me. 

so no. glocals isn't a dating site. it's torment, frustration, and abuse. and particularly with reference to #2 i think that not tipping drinks over other member should be expressly forbidden. 

but when i turned back and admitted to being the one she thought i was, the crazy tart tips 2/3 of a glass of beer over me.

It's clear that I've been attending the wrong Glocals events. 

1)  Many of the guys here DO understand the issue. 

2)  Spelling errors are often made by people whose first language is not the language they are writing in.  I tend to cut those people plenty of slack since their English is likely wayyyy better than my German.  I hate to think of how many spelling errors I make when I attempt French, the only other language I have any ability in.  Judging me for that is a reflection on YOUR small-mindedness, and is not a reflection of my stupidity.  At least I am making an attempt to be friendly and speak your language, non?  Also, many people have learning differences making them a bad speller.  But their IQ may be much higher than yours.  I know and love many of these people.  Looking down on them for their spelling is your loss, and it is extremely disrespectful and shows how little you know about the world.  Granted, there was a time that I disrespected bad spellers, too. We learn something new every day, thankfully!!  (if we try)

3)  Your remark about being thought of as a "stupid and cold Swiss girl" is important.  People need to understand that different cultures behave differently.  There ARE cultures in which the "average" Swiss girl's response would be considered "cold."  That's because, in THAT culture, the Swiss girl's response is, in fact, "cold."  It doesn't mean it is bad (or good).  It is just "different" from how women in that culture respond to that particular kind of social engagement.  But to say that it isn't "different" is simply ignoring the FACT that the Swiss people are, in general, different from the American people, for example.  Just as Germans are (generally) different from Japanese, etc. etc. etc.

(over time, as we all get exposed to the same pop culture, we will likely become more the same - whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is up to you.  Hopefully none of us become more like the kids on Jersey Shore!)

-  -  -

Now, this doesn't mean that all glocals women should embrace the weird inquiries they get.  I am NOT saying that.  But an email from a stranger is very different from some guy asking you out on the bus, then following you to your elevator, etc. etc.

Still, I think we are all sensitive to the fact the world is a freakier place for women than for men.  Men simply don't get followed back to their elevators and asked for dates.  At least I never have.  I think we all want glocals (and the world) to be a safe place for women, but we all need to acknowledge that not all inquiries are "freaky." 

ps to Charlie, I think glocals would still exist if NO dating occurred.  It performs a tremendous social function regardless of the prospect of dating.  Being a stranger in a strange land can be depressing, and it's wonderfully liberating to have activities suggested to you knowing that there will be at least one person there (the host) with his or her hand extended to you in friendship ready to share his/her piece of the world.  I would go to those activities even glocals said, "it is VERBOTEN for any activity participant to solicit a romantic encounter from any other activity participant."  I'd think it was odd, and it's not something glocals or any such group would do, but I'd still be a member and I'd still attend activities.

lol, such things happens only to hayes ;-)

I think I tried to get across that with out the parties Glocals wouldnt exist as it is now... dating is only a by product of the parties (and not an intent) where people who are mixing , meeting, drinking, dancing and laughing end up beginning the throes of romance...maybe..., and as a result the parties do actually act as an ice breaker and foundation for dates.

Im happy with the humour, as i said, and also the info that fellow members hand out, and sure Id be here (and AM here) irrespective of the dating.

Those who try and use this solely as a dating site, are indeed misusing the site, but for the normal freaks out there  who attend events and take each day as it comes without pressure on either girls or the dating mythology ..and ...if as a lucky throw of the dice they end up romantically attached "because of" glocals or a glocal event, then  its also not a bad thing huh?

Blame me Blame me Blame me . I am sorry I just cannot stop chating with guys. It is so much fun. I am one of those bad, sad, not well mannered girls. I am not cultured. yeah blame me. And the problem is I am not blonde,  so not many choices... hehe.

Just in case, you are a red chicken right now...

Cat...yeah, needed a change, I thought this pic might attract more "foxes"....

2. i went to my one and only glocals big party: a beachparty at plage, probably about a year ago. i was standing around chatting with a friend and this girl comes up to us and says "you're hayes, aren't you - you must be. it can only be you". now she was quite pretty and y'know, while my buddy was standing right there the timing couldn't have been better. so i gave him the sideways glance, the one that says sigh...this-happens-to-me-all-the-time... but when i turned back and admitted to being the one she thought i was, the crazy tart tips 2/3 of a glass of beer over me.

Special hops mission?

You! You! Bad girl! ;-)

lol, this thread is splitting glocals in those who like chatting with strangers and those who are totally against it ;-)

Or a big cock...

... with good intentions hopefully. Knowing that you are a decent (guy) chicken and all ;)

You make a good point. I think thats how it should be. Ideally, relationships should naturally eventuate from natural interactions between people.

ODED...APPROVE MY NEW PIC NOW PLEASE , HURRY!

(my ass is in danger from roaming horny coq sportifs)

Yes, this is our thread :)

Thanks Oded... phew

personally, i think it's hilarious.

guys that have never met me just ask how i am doing today, as if they care. funny how there's such blatant show of interest, from only one display picture as a foundation for it.

no reason really to feel uncomfortable about this... a glocals message is pretty harmless

Oh, come on... Now I am curious!! Please tell us what you have done to deserve this??!!

You had invited her for a coffee???

Or maybe you deserved it for NOT having invited her for a coffee...

Let me know if you ever come to a Glocals party in Zürich. I would love to see how your third experience will be!!!

I think we all should go for a drink or a coffee together!

Next week in Zürich? ;-)

Rules and Generalization make me sick. Glocals is a great website to contact people, chat with them and meet them and ultimately make friends.  If you have your own rules apply them on yourself. Don't tell others why do you do this or that.

And What is a natural way of communication ? natural way of finding people ? Define natural for me please.

And also complaining about people giving you messages on glocals website and saying that I will not use it again because people bother me is similar to statements like I am not gonna go to this bar near the corner because from time to time people come and bother me and talk to me.

I think we should get on with it. and time to time it is not bad to use the unnatural way and not an organic bio green one.

you're curious? i'm curious! if i knew the answer to that, i'd be.... well, i guess the only way to finish that sentence is to say i'd be more informed. i have no answer for you, unfortunately. 

it's probably true that i hadn't invited her for coffee, but if that were the reason i should, at least in theory, be literally drowning in projectile beer from all the other women i haven't sleazed up to. 

hi there thread followers,

nice to see interaction here from lausanne geneva zurich ect,

WE NEED A PARTY FORM ALL, ODED THIS IS FOR YOU;

I LOVE TO INVITE ALL GIRLS THAT I DO NOT KNOW TO COME AND DRINK A COFFEE OR MORE WITH ME, PLEASE DO NOT SPOIL 2/3 ON HAYES. PLS DRINK ENOUGH ALCOHOL WITH THE DUTCH AND IRISH, BECAUSE WE HAVE NO RULES WHAT SO EVER.

SORRY FOR ALL I KNOW, THE NEXT IS AS YOU KNOW NOT TRUE (BUT GOOD FOR THIS TREAD);

I HAD A TALK WITH MY THEHERAPIST; SHOULD START ASKING PEOPLE I DO NOT KNOW TO TALK TO ME ALTHOUGH I AM TIMID AND......BLABLABLA. SO FIRST OF ALL I ASK YOU TUULI

BECAUSE I FEEL THAT I KNOW YOU NOW SO MUCH BETTER AS BEFORE THAT I REALLY WANT TO ASK YOU FOR A SCIENTIFIC EXPERIENT FULL PROOFED AND SAFE

BUT THAN AGAIN THIS GUY IS IN YOUR HUNTING SCHEDULE AS MUM WITH TWO KIDS HAPPELY MARRIED,

SMILE

jOHN

PLS ODED ONLY TAKE THE FIRST THING SERIOUS THAT WE AS EXPADS REALY JUMP OVER THE RÖSTIGRABEN, AND SECOND THIS IS FULL PROOFED FILLING THE SUMMERGAP IN BURO

That's what I call a happy ending!

I am always in for a drink =)

I'm not going all the way to Zurich for just coffee...

Who said drink?     thirsty now.....

As to "happy ending".... dont get me started....

I know plenty of people who have met some cool people on this site and had some successful dates as a result of it. Many of the instigators have actually been girls.

We all get spam emails at work or Gmail, I would just treat this the same way and just delete them if you dont want to read them.

If any of you lovely ladies would like to ask me out on a date, don't hesitate!

Bill (likes poetry, buying flowers, animals, personal hygene, taking windy walks along the beach while holding hands and listening to YOU! Message NOW!) p.s. Dudes need not apply!

You get the famous ZH2O with your coffee

Juliana... the most handsome guy on Glocals asks if more than coffee is on offer and you answer him with...."water"....¨ Im in shock...

(fish fornicate in water so I guess there might be something there, but still...)

Dear Charlie,

the "most handsome guy on Glocals" gets of course muuuuch more than water! He gets the Glocals community meeting for drinks, coffee, water (you never know, maybe in Zurich it is affrodisiac?), a lot of flirting, laughs, exchange etc etc etc... In summary: he gets all of what Glocals is about :-)

If he wants, of course... nobody is forced to do anything, not to accept chat requests... and not to go for a coffee!

Anyway, guys, was fun to participate on this thread. Hope Zurich, Geneva, Lausanne, Basel Glocal  communities... get to meet up! Isn't this country just LOVELY?!!!

Wish you all a great evening!

Juliana

Arent you supposed to be in Vienna?

14/36 M to F ratio.... just for the record!

Wheres my beer?

Looks like I'm safe with a 54M/73F rate

by the way this thread is going, I guess many people will have to buy Tuuli a drink or 2 for enabling loads of match making from this thread

cant make saturday sorry... save it till the next glocals event then...

happy travels

So you could befriend me Trevor and it wouldn't upset the ratio too much .. LOL

I double dan dare you to ask her...