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It is by now very well known that a lot of people were complaining about the bad quality of food in Gva and if you find some good spots they will rip you off by asking a small fortune for a maincourse which not even has the size of a small starter.
Now, lets focus on meat:
Is it the fact that in other countries it is still alowed to put 25 pigs in a 5 square meter cage that brings the price of meat down? Obviously the running costs of big farms where everything is electronically automated, including feeding mechanism with fishmeal, must be far less than for a farm, with the same amount of cattle, and bring them out to the field everyday and give them proper food.
I believe that when you buy the bio- and free range meat in other countries, the price is almost the same.
Should the rest of Europe prohibit "factory farming" and go up in price or should Switzerland allow it and go down in price for meat?
http://www.glocals.com/forums/general/Swiss-Cuisine-----or-rather-the-lack-of-it--70782.htm#msg_70782
It is by now very well known that a lot of people were complaining about the bad quality of food in Gva and if you find some good spots they will rip you off by asking a small fortune for a maincourse which not even has the size of a small starter.
Now, lets focus on meat:
Is it the fact that in other countries it is still alowed to put 25 pigs in a 5 square meter cage that brings the price of meat down? Obviously the running costs of big farms where everything is electronically automated, including feeding mechanism with fishmeal, must be far less than for a farm, with the same amount of cattle, and bring them out to the field everyday and give them proper food.
I believe that when you buy the bio- and free range meat in other countries, the price is almost the same.
Should the rest of Europe prohibit "factory farming" and go up in price or should Switzerland allow it and go down in price for meat?
ArnovdAug 12, 2009 @ 18:25
Aubrey Allen(uk organic and free range butchers) free range pork tenderloin. £8.95 for 24 ounces= CHF 20.67 kg
Aubrey Allen(uk organic and free range butchers) free range pork tenderloin. £8.95 for 24 ounces= CHF 20.67 kg
brucelawson, Aug 14, 2009 @ 13:39
According to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), Switzerland is subsidizing more than 70% of its agriculture compared to 35% in the EU. The 2007 Agricultural Program, recently adopted by the Swiss Federal Assembly, will increase subsidies by CHF 63 million to CHF 14.092 billion.
Protectionism acts to promote domestic production, but not to reduce prices or the cost of production, and there is no guarantee the increased domestic production is actually consumed internally; it may simply be being exported, to the profit of the producers.
But 90 to 100% of potatoes, pork, veal, cattle and most milk products, are produced in the country. Beyond that, Swiss agriculture meets sixty-five per cent of the domestic food demand.[16]
Prices are not reduced because, in the absence of import tariffs, the price of food would settle to that of the cheapest provider (which would often be external to Switzerland thus more costly in food miles). Import tariffs rise the price of food and Swiss domestic production only has to be cheaper than these artificially raised prices. The consumer pays more than they otherwise would.
The cost of production is not reduced by subsidy; it merely makes the final point-of-sale price lower than it would otherwise be, since some of the cost of production is born by the State. However, the State obtains the money for the subsidy by taxation, which falls ultimately on the consumer. Subsidy merely alters who pays for what (although in this case it now pays for farming practices that are environmentally respectuous). Furthermore, if the food products produced are in fact being exported, the subsidy of their production costs makes them unusually competitive in the world market, which increases the profits of the producers; in other words, the State is in fact taxing the local population with an outcome which is actually merely to increase the profit of food producers.
According to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), Switzerland is subsidizing more than 70% of its agriculture compared to 35% in the EU. The 2007 Agricultural Program, recently adopted by the Swiss Federal Assembly, will increase subsidies by CHF 63 million to CHF 14.092 billion.
Protectionism acts to promote domestic production, but not to reduce prices or the cost of production, and there is no guarantee the increased domestic production is actually consumed internally; it may simply be being exported, to the profit of the producers.
But 90 to 100% of potatoes, pork, veal, cattle and most milk products, are produced in the country. Beyond that, Swiss agriculture meets sixty-five per cent of the domestic food demand.[16]
Prices are not reduced because, in the absence of import tariffs, the price of food would settle to that of the cheapest provider (which would often be external to Switzerland thus more costly in food miles). Import tariffs rise the price of food and Swiss domestic production only has to be cheaper than these artificially raised prices. The consumer pays more than they otherwise would.
The cost of production is not reduced by subsidy; it merely makes the final point-of-sale price lower than it would otherwise be, since some of the cost of production is born by the State. However, the State obtains the money for the subsidy by taxation, which falls ultimately on the consumer. Subsidy merely alters who pays for what (although in this case it now pays for farming practices that are environmentally respectuous). Furthermore, if the food products produced are in fact being exported, the subsidy of their production costs makes them unusually competitive in the world market, which increases the profits of the producers; in other words, the State is in fact taxing the local population with an outcome which is actually merely to increase the profit of food producers.
brucelawson, Aug 14, 2009 @ 13:49



