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Time to ask for a rent cut, says tenants group

GENEVA, SWITZERLAND – You could be due for up to a 10 percent reduction in your rent if you haven’t asked for a cut since 2008, says Asloca, the Swiss tenants’ association, 1 December. It won’t come to you: you have to ask for it.


The Swiss rental reference interest rate has fallen from 2.75 to 2.50 percent, which means it can be applied to rental agreements. The rate is calculated quarterly, based on the average of banks’ mortgage rates. Today’s lower rate gives tenants the right to ask for a 2.91 percent rent reduction, but it’s the fourth since the start f 2008 and in total the reductions come to about  10 percent. The law changed in October, making it easier to apply the reference rates to real rent reductions.


Asloca says tenants are often afraid to ask for a reduction on an existing lease for fear that the landlord will try to use that to end the lease, but the opposite is true: tenants who insist on reductions because the law gives them the right to this lower rents overall in the country, and they are better protected when the landlord tries to increase the rent.


Guide to how to ask for a cut in rent, Bon a savoir (Fr)


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from today's geneva lunch
 
 
Time to ask for a rent cut, says tenants group

GENEVA, SWITZERLAND – You could be due for up to a 10 percent reduction in your rent if you haven’t asked for a cut since 2008, says Asloca, the Swiss tenants’ association, 1 December. It won’t come to you: you have to ask for it.


The Swiss rental reference interest rate has fallen from 2.75 to 2.50 percent, which means it can be applied to rental agreements. The rate is calculated quarterly, based on the average of banks’ mortgage rates. Today’s lower rate gives tenants the right to ask for a 2.91 percent rent reduction, but it’s the fourth since the start f 2008 and in total the reductions come to about  10 percent. The law changed in October, making it easier to apply the reference rates to real rent reductions.


Asloca says tenants are often afraid to ask for a reduction on an existing lease for fear that the landlord will try to use that to end the lease, but the opposite is true: tenants who insist on reductions because the law gives them the right to this lower rents overall in the country, and they are better protected when the landlord tries to increase the rent.


Guide to how to ask for a cut in rent, Bon a savoir (Fr)



epicureDec 2, 2011 @ 08:20
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Epicure,


You just have to check your lease to see if it is based on the mortgage interest rate (example above) or the cost of living index. Many of the newer leases over the last few years have been done on the basis of the cost of living index which means that if the reference interest rate goes up/down, there is no impact on the rent. However, if inflation starts again, the rent will increase in a big way.


 

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Epicure,


You just have to check your lease to see if it is based on the mortgage interest rate (example above) or the cost of living index. Many of the newer leases over the last few years have been done on the basis of the cost of living index which means that if the reference interest rate goes up/down, there is no impact on the rent. However, if inflation starts again, the rent will increase in a big way.


 


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Hmm...  not all leases say whether the rent is based on mortage interest rate or cost of living index, so it's not easy to just look.   And when you are renting from an individual, not a regie, it's not easy to just anonymously ask administrators for information.


My "bail a loyer" for example says (under dispositions complementaires):


- Le reajustement du loyer sera fait selon la loi en vigueur.


ASLOCA Is going to have their hands full with inquiries I bet!

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Hmm...  not all leases say whether the rent is based on mortage interest rate or cost of living index, so it's not easy to just look.   And when you are renting from an individual, not a regie, it's not easy to just anonymously ask administrators for information.


My "bail a loyer" for example says (under dispositions complementaires):


- Le reajustement du loyer sera fait selon la loi en vigueur.


ASLOCA Is going to have their hands full with inquiries I bet!


Michelle W, Dec 4, 2011 @ 11:38
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I have a solution for paying less rent. WORK IN SWITZERLAND, LIVE IN FRANCE.


I've done it myself. I live in a huge house with a huge garden, only 20 mins. driving from Place des Nations, with a bus to Cornavin at my doorstep. I pay fot this house what some people pay in Geneva a nice one bedroom flat in a good neighbourhood!! I see one bedroom flats in Geneva for 2'500 3'000 chf. This is RIDICULOUS!


Plus, you go to the supermarket in France and you are all amazed: there is sooo much choice and prices are sooooo lower than in Geneva. You just need a car or you should be willing to take the bus (that works well btw).


 


I  am renting my house in France, if  anyone is looking for a place. Minimum 6 months.

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I have a solution for paying less rent. WORK IN SWITZERLAND, LIVE IN FRANCE.


I've done it myself. I live in a huge house with a huge garden, only 20 mins. driving from Place des Nations, with a bus to Cornavin at my doorstep. I pay fot this house what some people pay in Geneva a nice one bedroom flat in a good neighbourhood!! I see one bedroom flats in Geneva for 2'500 3'000 chf. This is RIDICULOUS!


Plus, you go to the supermarket in France and you are all amazed: there is sooo much choice and prices are sooooo lower than in Geneva. You just need a car or you should be willing to take the bus (that works well btw).


 


I  am renting my house in France, if  anyone is looking for a place. Minimum 6 months.


Anajorn, Dec 4, 2011 @ 14:58
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Anajorn, time spent on a G-permit (frontalier) doesn't count toward getting a C-permit (permanent residence).  I'd love to be in France but this alone prevents me from considering it.

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Anajorn, time spent on a G-permit (frontalier) doesn't count toward getting a C-permit (permanent residence).  I'd love to be in France but this alone prevents me from considering it.


richardm, Dec 4, 2011 @ 18:15
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