i've seen the results and it's safe to say that if it is installed correctly, it works very nicely with a quality receiver.

digital signals are almost impossible to line up with a dish unless you have a digital signal meter. does this dish have 2 lnb's alligned with the 13E hotbird and 19 or 28.2 E for astra? i don't think so. you better make sure or you may need to buy 2 antennas. also, there are flat dishes with 2 lnb's but for the same satellite but 2 seperate users.

Hi ROger. Thanks for the info! Haven't seen you around for quite a while in Geneva.

SLEFSAT comes in Single, Twin or Quad LNBs but as you have pointed out, it was supposed to support multiple receivers rather than multiple satellites.

I was thinking about using the SELFSAT HH90 Rotor that supports the DiSEqC 1.2 command protocol to align the "dish" to ASTRA and HOTBIRD (and 40 other sats). I suppose with the Rotor, I only need a Single LNB unless I have a twin tuner digital receiver. Is my assumption correct?

http://www.satshop.tv/SelfSat-HH90-Motor

What are your thoughts about the "SETONE EasyOne S-HD 2" and "VANTAGE HD 1100S" digital tuners? Have you seen one in action?

Thanks!

haven't see youuuuu around for quite a while in Geneva! And now ya gonna be watching telly all time in your out-of-town haven?!

Well, it's winter and time to become a couch potato

Just imagine having a satellite receiver with 20,000 programmable channels. Who needs to go out anymore? I've read that UK Freesat can be received from over here as well.

Think of all the Eastenders repeats on Freesat  

i used to run my own sat. business for 7 yrs. here in switzeland. honestly, you will never be able to align an h to h motor mount correctly. you need a good sat meter and a few hours (30-50) of installation experience. my first one took me 14 hrs!!! i bought a professional sat meter after that ( sfr. 3´000) and it simplified my life considerably. since then i´ve done ove 500 installations. even on 2 occasions for the European Space Agency.!!!

suffice it to say, i know this field quite well. contact me if you want to save time and money.

i run a 4 lnb via a Diseq switch sat dish (23,28.2,13 and 19 deg.E) with plenty of HD channels in english.

great picture, great sound. total cost about sfr. 1´200

have fun

Thanks Roger. 4 LNB would work too but I'm trying to minimise the unsightly sight of a regular dish. Hence, Selfsat. But I'm going to do a bit more reading up before deciding. I'll now know who to go to once I've got all the bits & bobs together.

Cheers, EM

another real techy argument against the h to h mount with this type of dish is the lack of skew control. this is a major drawback when using a flat dish. (phased array) you would have to ajust the skew by hand for each satellite. and as you have a rather small signal with this dish, skew becomes more critical. the older technology had a magnetic polarizer in the feed horn to compensate and adjust the skew on a h to h mount. hey, this sounds like a satellite installation manual...sorry :-)

cheers

oh sorry your question on tuners: the best i´ve seen is the humax. i have seen the vantage

and plenty of others. humax, whatever model you decide to get, has the best video output quality. i would suggest the HD tuner with pvr hard disk.

if you are ever in this area, you are welcome to have a demo. i even have some used equipment ( humax hd without the pvr ) and a jeppson hd tuner with pvr ready connection - usb to a hard disk. a 60cm dish and diseq and lnb, bla bla bla..........

I've just bought a HUMAX (yesterday), because still waiting to receive my sky card and was getting the message "load your new card" too often. It works very well with my 4LNB configuration.

have you managed to get itv HD yet? seems to be problematic for certain tuners.

Thanks for the wealth of information. I may just take up you offer to have a demo. I still need to find a good location to mount my dish as there are lots of trees around.  I've looked around a couple of sat shops in GE and it seems the dish is a better bet. Hmmm, maybe I should just get a 100cm dish, 4LNB and put it in the garden.  Cheers, EM

Thanks Trevor. I have my eye on the HUMAX iCord HD. Now I just need to convince myself to dish out CHF600 for it.

Super Shopper to the rescue.

Depending on the HD size you need/want, it is available as of CHF 485. Go ahead, treat yourself. You deserve it !!

http://www.toppreise.ch/index.php?search=HUMAX+iCord+HD&sRes=OK

Thanks. I had my eye on the 500GB. I've still a couple of week to buy myself a Christmas present and just need some gentle self persuasion

First, please know that I know nothing about satellite TV. If you need me to provide more info or clarify myself, I'll be happy to.

My office has a Humax Viaccess box, which normally receives Hotbird and Astra 1. Starting a day or two ago, we aren't receiving any channels, and instead we're receiving the message "No or bad signal". This is happening on all TV and Radio channels.

The installer of the system is in Berne, and we don't want to call him down to Geneva if it's not absolutely necessary. We've unplugged and re-plugged everything, including the white cable that leads out to the satellite dish. We've also slightly moved the dish to see if it will find the signal again, and that didn't work either.

Can you provide other suggestions of what to do, or direct me to someone in Geneva who knows the Hotbird, Astra 1 system? Everyone around here seems to deal only with Sky.

Thanks!

This may be off topic but is there any form of wireless connection from a dish ? (prob stupid question....) I would like to get Sky but there is no way to successfully run cables into my rented house without drilling thru walls etc which the landlord would not be happy with.

not yet wireless ( but if you can develop one you would be an instant millionnaire ) however, no need to drill holes as you can run a flat cable connector that goes under windows and doors. see photo

first of all, if you've moved the dish the alignment is probably off. if it's moved only by 5 mm you've lost the signal. moving it back....well, without a signal meter you may be lost.
always check the cable/ connection first to determine if it is the connection or something more involved.
my guess is you need a knowledgeable installer so as not to lose time ( money) while they dick around as the meter is ticking. my guess is that the dish moved due to high wind, or the LNB on the front of the dish is no longer working. or......... the tuner was moved and the cable connection got loose on the "F" connector. there are lots of variables so, it really takes an experienced technician to sort it out quickly and cheaply.
max. 300sfr. ( without replacement of parts i.e LNB c. 50sfr.
if you call the guy from Bern, just the call out cost would be excessive ( 2hrs at least ).

If u wanna py a high price there is. ..http://www.canon.com/bctv/canobeam/index.html

Hi Guys,

Back to the origional question, I am in the Geneva area and have been using a Selfsat against Astra on a Dreambox DM800 with no problems for a few months now.

I recently installed a motor to be able to get the French channels, but its refusing to work.. 

as far as i know, the french channels require a decoder and a card. they used to be free. are you on 1.0 degree west?

also, a motor is not enough, you need a polar mount to account for the change in elevation