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Sep 17, 2012 @ 15:46

Does anyone know anyone who would be able to assist in a search and rescue in the Lauterbrunnen area? Anyone with mountaineering/alpine skills/canyoneering skills? 


Dan Hunt (friend of a friend) went missing whilst speedflying there on saturday. His insurance cover is exhausted and the insurance company won't pay for a helicopter to search for him. If anyone can help in any way, or would like to donate in order to help raise funds for the search, please see links below. 


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Find-Dan-Hunt/523120891036853 


https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=4P5PRACQNUH8C

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Does anyone know anyone who would be able to assist in a search and rescue in the Lauterbrunnen area? Anyone with mountaineering/alpine skills/canyoneering skills? 


Dan Hunt (friend of a friend) went missing whilst speedflying there on saturday. His insurance cover is exhausted and the insurance company won't pay for a helicopter to search for him. If anyone can help in any way, or would like to donate in order to help raise funds for the search, please see links below. 


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Find-Dan-Hunt/523120891036853 


https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=4P5PRACQNUH8C


BeckySep 17, 2012 @ 15:46
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Sep 17, 2012 @ 16:28

From facebook link:


EVERYONE this is important, Contact me, Kara (+447883190229) or Lisa (+447809 446957) if you want to volunteer to be part of the search team. Email or message here [email protected].

I need to know:

1. Whether you have mountaineering / alpine skills / canyoneering skills
2. WHEN you could go out there (ASAP ideal if you know locals)
3. We will be the ones to get in touch with the team there in Switzerland.

We have had a massive response but need to get it all together now, so please message me.

- Kara

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From facebook link:


EVERYONE this is important, Contact me, Kara (+447883190229) or Lisa (+447809 446957) if you want to volunteer to be part of the search team. Email or message here [email protected].

I need to know:

1. Whether you have mountaineering / alpine skills / canyoneering skills
2. WHEN you could go out there (ASAP ideal if you know locals)
3. We will be the ones to get in touch with the team there in Switzerland.

We have had a massive response but need to get it all together now, so please message me.

- Kara


Becky, Sep 17, 2012 @ 16:28
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Sep 17, 2012 @ 20:12

Hi Becky,


Can I suggest that posters are put up around Lauterbrunnen about this? Was there today and there were none. No-one mentioned that anyone was missing.


Do the authorities know as there has been nothing on the local news about it or in the newspapers.

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Hi Becky,


Can I suggest that posters are put up around Lauterbrunnen about this? Was there today and there were none. No-one mentioned that anyone was missing.


Do the authorities know as there has been nothing on the local news about it or in the newspapers.


Treesa, Sep 17, 2012 @ 20:12
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Sep 18, 2012 @ 09:24

Thanks Treesa. Have passed this info to his friends who are coordinating the search. Swiss authorities are aware so i'm surprised there was no news in Lauterbrunnen. I saw it reported on BBC news this morning but the information really needs to disseminate locally.

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Thanks Treesa. Have passed this info to his friends who are coordinating the search. Swiss authorities are aware so i'm surprised there was no news in Lauterbrunnen. I saw it reported on BBC news this morning but the information really needs to disseminate locally.


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Sep 18, 2012 @ 10:23

Treesa - are there any particular local organisations - news or otherwise - you would recommend contacting? Passed your previous observations re lack of local news to his friends - thanks again for that. The authorities are aware and have had the search helicopter out so strange that local media hasn't picked up on it.


(I'm assuming you know the area hence the question so sorry if i'm wrong here).

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Treesa - are there any particular local organisations - news or otherwise - you would recommend contacting? Passed your previous observations re lack of local news to his friends - thanks again for that. The authorities are aware and have had the search helicopter out so strange that local media hasn't picked up on it.


(I'm assuming you know the area hence the question so sorry if i'm wrong here).


Becky, Sep 18, 2012 @ 10:23
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Sep 18, 2012 @ 10:40

Im sure you know about this but try those people http://www.rega.ch/en/home.aspx


Dont know if they can help but call them anw

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Im sure you know about this but try those people http://www.rega.ch/en/home.aspx


Dont know if they can help but call them anw


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Sep 18, 2012 @ 14:27

Dan has been found and he's alive!

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Dan has been found and he's alive!


Becky, Sep 18, 2012 @ 14:27
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Sep 18, 2012 @ 19:05

A happy ending: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205056/British-speed-flying-fan-alive-Swiss-Alps-spending-THREE-days-trapped-glacier-trying-extreme-sport.html

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A happy ending: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205056/British-speed-flying-fan-alive-Swiss-Alps-spending-THREE-days-trapped-glacier-trying-extreme-sport.html


Sajade, Sep 18, 2012 @ 19:05
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Sep 18, 2012 @ 20:08

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19633623


 

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Paul E, Sep 18, 2012 @ 20:08
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Sep 18, 2012 @ 21:41

Definitely a better source than the Daily Mail!

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Definitely a better source than the Daily Mail!


Sajade, Sep 18, 2012 @ 21:41
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Sep 19, 2012 @ 11:08

I'm amazed about this story !


I'm asking myself if it's normal that authorities give up on searching for somebody lost just after a couple of days!


Shouldn't police, army or any kind of rescue service look for somebody until there is a possibility of finding him alive ?


How can they give up just because the insurance coverage limit is reached ?


Is this common or somethinhg special in Switzerland ?

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I'm amazed about this story !


I'm asking myself if it's normal that authorities give up on searching for somebody lost just after a couple of days!


Shouldn't police, army or any kind of rescue service look for somebody until there is a possibility of finding him alive ?


How can they give up just because the insurance coverage limit is reached ?


Is this common or somethinhg special in Switzerland ?


Fabrizio C, Sep 19, 2012 @ 11:08
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Sep 19, 2012 @ 11:22

I think it is simply a situation where you pay. This has always been the case in the alps.  Will check this out in the next few days.


What I found amazing is that, thanks to facebook which I hardly use, enough money was raised to pay for additional helicopter searches and ground and parapente searches.


The way this guys mates got themselves organised and got the money resulted in his being found alive in an impenetrable gorge with(it appears) just a broken ankle. So my small donation was not wasted


This is a sport I have no intention of practising but I wonder what improvements could be made to aid search and rescue. I assume for instance there was no mobile phone network available.  It would be also interesting to hear from him what actually went wrong and whether he had a choice of crash landing sites.


Below is an article I found today. Maybe the original poster can fill us in with some of these details


http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/find-dan-hunt-facebook-saves-man-lost-in-alps-20120919-265tu.html


  

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I think it is simply a situation where you pay. This has always been the case in the alps.  Will check this out in the next few days.


What I found amazing is that, thanks to facebook which I hardly use, enough money was raised to pay for additional helicopter searches and ground and parapente searches.


The way this guys mates got themselves organised and got the money resulted in his being found alive in an impenetrable gorge with(it appears) just a broken ankle. So my small donation was not wasted


This is a sport I have no intention of practising but I wonder what improvements could be made to aid search and rescue. I assume for instance there was no mobile phone network available.  It would be also interesting to hear from him what actually went wrong and whether he had a choice of crash landing sites.


Below is an article I found today. Maybe the original poster can fill us in with some of these details


http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/find-dan-hunt-facebook-saves-man-lost-in-alps-20120919-265tu.html


  


Paul E, Sep 19, 2012 @ 11:22
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Sep 19, 2012 @ 11:53

Paul, that facebook thing is starting to go viral.  =)   Soon, many people will use it.

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Paul, that facebook thing is starting to go viral.  =)   Soon, many people will use it.


richardm, Sep 19, 2012 @ 11:53
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Sep 19, 2012 @ 12:33

Sometimes social media and the net is just plain awesome. 


well done!

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Sometimes social media and the net is just plain awesome. 


well done!


Kevin M, Sep 19, 2012 @ 12:33
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Sep 19, 2012 @ 13:53

Why do they not carry transponders ? It is almost mandatory in NZ to have one of these in the mountains. Would have made this rescue so much easier one thinks.

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Why do they not carry transponders ? It is almost mandatory in NZ to have one of these in the mountains. Would have made this rescue so much easier one thinks.


Jeffery S, Sep 19, 2012 @ 13:53
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Sep 19, 2012 @ 14:38

Why do they not carry transponders ? It is almost mandatory in NZ to have one of these in the mountains. Would have made this rescue so much easier one thinks.


Sep 19, 12 13:53

If you means the ones used when skiing to detect avalanche victims it would not have helped in this case as the range is only about 30 metres and he was in a gorge 45 metres deep.


Alternatively radios or satellite phones are maybe an option but are prohibitively expensive.  Plus I am not sure how important the weight factor s when doing this sport

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If you means the ones used when skiing to detect avalanche victims it would not have helped in this case as the range is only about 30 metres and he was in a gorge 45 metres deep.


Alternatively radios or satellite phones are maybe an option but are prohibitively expensive.  Plus I am not sure how important the weight factor s when doing this sport


Paul E, Sep 19, 2012 @ 14:38
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Sep 19, 2012 @ 15:21

If you means the ones used when skiing to detect avalanche victims it would not have helped in this case as the range is only about 30 metres and he was in a gorge 45 metres deep.

Alternatively radios or satellite phones are maybe an option but are prohibitively expensive.  Plus I am not sure how important the weight factor s when doing this sport


Sep 19, 12 14:38

A light weight radio is probably the best option.

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A light weight radio is probably the best option.


Richard H, Sep 19, 2012 @ 15:21
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Sep 19, 2012 @ 16:22

I'm amazed about this story !

I'm asking myself if it's normal that authorities give up on searching for somebody lost just after a couple of days!

Shouldn't police, army or any kind of rescue service look for somebody until there is a possibility of finding him alive ?

How can they give up just because the insurance coverage limit is reached ?

Is this common or somethinhg special in Switzerland ?


Sep 19, 12 11:08

This is not typical for the Swiss to give up, however one should consider other issues about the case:


Just because someone says so & so is missing . . . does it mean searching eternally or did the guy, like so many other examples, go home and forget to check out of his hotel.


Imagine the local authorities who every weekend have to clean up the mess of yet another base-jumper who went "splat" - extreme sport enthusiasts should expand their preparations to include automatic missing alerts, a suitable radio for SOS and let's not forget decent insurance !


Accidents happen anywhere and I've had my share (my last one cost CHF20'000), but in this crazy world that seems to be thriving on extreme thrill-seekers, I would have thought that much of the onus is on those same thrill-seekers to organise themselves and their sport accordingly.


One example would be the "buddy system" that scuba divers use with amazing effectiveness.  And if this had been applied in this current situation . . . . . ?  Hopefully there are lessons to be learned from this accident that for once didn't end in a "splat" !

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This is not typical for the Swiss to give up, however one should consider other issues about the case:


Just because someone says so & so is missing . . . does it mean searching eternally or did the guy, like so many other examples, go home and forget to check out of his hotel.


Imagine the local authorities who every weekend have to clean up the mess of yet another base-jumper who went "splat" - extreme sport enthusiasts should expand their preparations to include automatic missing alerts, a suitable radio for SOS and let's not forget decent insurance !


Accidents happen anywhere and I've had my share (my last one cost CHF20'000), but in this crazy world that seems to be thriving on extreme thrill-seekers, I would have thought that much of the onus is on those same thrill-seekers to organise themselves and their sport accordingly.


One example would be the "buddy system" that scuba divers use with amazing effectiveness.  And if this had been applied in this current situation . . . . . ?  Hopefully there are lessons to be learned from this accident that for once didn't end in a "splat" !


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Sep 19, 2012 @ 19:40

This press release was issued a few minutes ago


PRESS RELEASE!!!! Dan 'Nabik' is in good spirits. He did not have good sleep as he wasn't used to sleep anymore for a few days trying to stay awake and warm. He has a fractured Tibia and some broken bones in his foot. He has a minor lung infection and is getting some antibiotics and iv fluids, and his vital signs are still being monitored. Today was a rest day and celebration day for all of us....
Dan is finally recovering his ability to have a proper conversation. The hospital staff in Switzerland have been extremely professional in treating Dan with the best they could offer. Dan is completely overwelmed by what so many friends and unknown people have done for him and really wants to thank everyone from the bottom of his heart... He is struggling to find words to express his gratitude to all those who joined the search and contributed funds. Dan says that the most amazing thing he is trying to come to terms with is that it was his friends who finally found him after flying and driving over from England, Austria, Germany, and Switzerland to join the search. The local community of paragliders, speed flyers and other visiting flyers were extremely helpful volunteering to fly over the search area. He is still recovering from conditions that are a result of being exposed to very low temperatures. He will stay in the hospital for the next few days until the doctors are happy he is 101% recovered. There is no confirmation of a return day at this state.
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This press release was issued a few minutes ago


PRESS RELEASE!!!! Dan 'Nabik' is in good spirits. He did not have good sleep as he wasn't used to sleep anymore for a few days trying to stay awake and warm. He has a fractured Tibia and some broken bones in his foot. He has a minor lung infection and is getting some antibiotics and iv fluids, and his vital signs are still being monitored. Today was a rest day and celebration day for all of us....
Dan is finally recovering his ability to have a proper conversation. The hospital staff in Switzerland have been extremely professional in treating Dan with the best they could offer. Dan is completely overwelmed by what so many friends and unknown people have done for him and really wants to thank everyone from the bottom of his heart... He is struggling to find words to express his gratitude to all those who joined the search and contributed funds. Dan says that the most amazing thing he is trying to come to terms with is that it was his friends who finally found him after flying and driving over from England, Austria, Germany, and Switzerland to join the search. The local community of paragliders, speed flyers and other visiting flyers were extremely helpful volunteering to fly over the search area. He is still recovering from conditions that are a result of being exposed to very low temperatures. He will stay in the hospital for the next few days until the doctors are happy he is 101% recovered. There is no confirmation of a return day at this state.

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Sep 19, 2012 @ 23:05

This is not typical for the Swiss to give up, however one should consider other issues about the case:

Just because someone says so & so is missing . . . does it mean searching eternally or did the guy, like so many other examples, go home and forget to check out of his hotel.

Imagine the local authorities who every weekend have to clean up the mess of yet another base-jumper who went "splat" - extreme sport enthusiasts should expand their preparations to include automatic missing alerts, a suitable radio for SOS and let's not forget decent insurance !

Accidents happen anywhere and I've had my share (my last one cost CHF20'000), but in this crazy world that seems to be thriving on extreme thrill-seekers, I would have thought that much of the onus is on those same thrill-seekers to organise themselves and their sport accordingly.

One example would be the "buddy system" that scuba divers use with amazing effectiveness.  And if this had been applied in this current situation . . . . . ?  Hopefully there are lessons to be learned from this accident that for once didn't end in a "splat" !


Sep 19, 12 16:22

In fact the guy was with two others, but the speed of the sport doesn't seem to lend itself well to the buddy system as flying close is also dangerous.

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In fact the guy was with two others, but the speed of the sport doesn't seem to lend itself well to the buddy system as flying close is also dangerous.


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Sep 24, 2012 @ 12:39

Update


RECEIVED FROM DAN just now... "Dear friends, rescuers and kind hearted people i have never met, Around this time a few days ago I was still trapped in a deep canyon from which there was no possible escape and I was starting to think that I wouldn't be a part of this beautiful world for much longer. You have all done something truly remarkable and I am still struggling to find the words to expres...
s how i feel about the events of the last few days. Strangely it is not my accident and near death that is haunting me most - it is what i have discovered since my rescue about what you have all done to make it possible. I know more of the facts about what happened now but I understand very little. I cannot express how thankful I am to everyone who took part in the rescue and to each and every one of the approx 1500 people who donated to the paypal account to keep the helicopters flying - I am utterly humbled by what you have all done. I want to thank the Swiss Army helicopter crew, the Air Glacier crews, the Lauterbrunnen police, Rega and the dog teams who worked tirelessly trying to locate me. They flew many many missions without which the ground search would not have been able to focus on the terrain hard to search from the air. They do this all year round, day in and day out. To those kind hearted people who don't even know me but came to volunteer in the search or offered expertise - I can't thank you enough, your actions speak loudly of your selflessness, courage and humanity. To be pulled out of the ravine by my buddies was the most mind-blowing experience possible and then to hear about Kara and Lisa relentlessly running this campaign back home and all the people who donated funds via paypal  and to see all the messages of support on this page was just completely overwhelming. To Tim Good and my mates in the speedflying/climbing/highlining community who travelled to Lauterbrunnen from the UK and around Europe to come and get me and to those at home who worked the fundraising campaign you are the most legendary bunch of mates in this entire world and you have shown that our community has something special that we should be forever proud of.. thank you for refusing to leave a man behind.  we will never forget these last few days. There will be many lessons in this episode that we can all learn from and there is much detail that is still not clear but for now we probably all need to rest and reflect and take heart from the way everyone came together and achieved something remarkable. Thank you guys for being so awesome - you have inspired everyone. never give up" Dan Hunt

on Saturday


 

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RECEIVED FROM DAN just now... "Dear friends, rescuers and kind hearted people i have never met, Around this time a few days ago I was still trapped in a deep canyon from which there was no possible escape and I was starting to think that I wouldn't be a part of this beautiful world for much longer. You have all done something truly remarkable and I am still struggling to find the words to expres...
s how i feel about the events of the last few days. Strangely it is not my accident and near death that is haunting me most - it is what i have discovered since my rescue about what you have all done to make it possible. I know more of the facts about what happened now but I understand very little. I cannot express how thankful I am to everyone who took part in the rescue and to each and every one of the approx 1500 people who donated to the paypal account to keep the helicopters flying - I am utterly humbled by what you have all done. I want to thank the Swiss Army helicopter crew, the Air Glacier crews, the Lauterbrunnen police, Rega and the dog teams who worked tirelessly trying to locate me. They flew many many missions without which the ground search would not have been able to focus on the terrain hard to search from the air. They do this all year round, day in and day out. To those kind hearted people who don't even know me but came to volunteer in the search or offered expertise - I can't thank you enough, your actions speak loudly of your selflessness, courage and humanity. To be pulled out of the ravine by my buddies was the most mind-blowing experience possible and then to hear about Kara and Lisa relentlessly running this campaign back home and all the people who donated funds via paypal  and to see all the messages of support on this page was just completely overwhelming. To Tim Good and my mates in the speedflying/climbing/highlining community who travelled to Lauterbrunnen from the UK and around Europe to come and get me and to those at home who worked the fundraising campaign you are the most legendary bunch of mates in this entire world and you have shown that our community has something special that we should be forever proud of.. thank you for refusing to leave a man behind.  we will never forget these last few days. There will be many lessons in this episode that we can all learn from and there is much detail that is still not clear but for now we probably all need to rest and reflect and take heart from the way everyone came together and achieved something remarkable. Thank you guys for being so awesome - you have inspired everyone. never give up" Dan Hunt

on Saturday


 


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Sep 24, 2012 @ 15:27

Unlike France and UK the there is no government search and rescue system. There are certain bodies eg Club Alpin Suisse and others and initial searches are set up based on information received but these are limited. Helicopter searches have to be paid for.


I have been rescued once from a crevasse but was with a group who called out the helicopter which came immediately but then sent an invoice - fortunately covered by my insurance. My exact location was known


In this case we had a  speedflyer who disappeared in a specific but very large area, so many hours of heliicopter flying was required and has to be paid for.


Eventually lessons will be learned from this. Should one be carrying transmitters etc. How was he finally found


This sport sounds absolutely incredible. I have seen pictures of it and can only admire those who dare do it.  Thank goodness I am too old to start


 


 

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Unlike France and UK the there is no government search and rescue system. There are certain bodies eg Club Alpin Suisse and others and initial searches are set up based on information received but these are limited. Helicopter searches have to be paid for.


I have been rescued once from a crevasse but was with a group who called out the helicopter which came immediately but then sent an invoice - fortunately covered by my insurance. My exact location was known


In this case we had a  speedflyer who disappeared in a specific but very large area, so many hours of heliicopter flying was required and has to be paid for.


Eventually lessons will be learned from this. Should one be carrying transmitters etc. How was he finally found


This sport sounds absolutely incredible. I have seen pictures of it and can only admire those who dare do it.  Thank goodness I am too old to start


 


 


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