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The recent suicide of an acquaintance started me thinking about how lonely some people must be here in Switzerland.


We come to this country usually on some kind of an adventure or for a job or with a partner, and suddenly find ourselves alone and that the adventure is not quite what we expected. What do we do about it.?


So who do we turn to when we need help, ?


We meet so many people at various events and functions. We say hi and ask how they are, and everyone says “im good thanks”  but how many of us are really good and do we really care about others. ?


How many of those people on your Friends list could you actually talk to ? How many of us are actually there, when someone needs us?  I have over 600 friends on my lists, but theres only about 4 or 5 I can actually talk to. I am really grateful to those people who have been “there” for me , when life has been tough. So I consider myself lucky , that there is someone for me to turn to.


But what about those who feel they have no one ?


Too often we find ourselves hiding behind the walls of modern social media, Facebook, Whatsapp, chat pages, etc etc,  pretending that everything is okay, when really everything around us is falling apart and  all we really need is someone to talk to person to person. How often do you actually pick up the phone to have a conversation? How often do you actually meet over a coffee and have a real conversation ?


How often do we sit at home alone and wonder who we can talk to, who could we meet with .? How often do you sit at home and wonder why no one calls ? Maybe we could pick up the phone and have a chat, or go out one on one for a coffee with someone who is willing to listen.


I find it quite sad to think that there are so many expats out there in similar situations, who think that the  only alternative is to end it all. We all have good moments and bad ones , funny and sad ones and we all need someone to be there for us, not to say much, but just to be supportive and listen to our story. To listen to who we really are, to offer comfort. Sometimes all we need is a hug, or a word of encouragement to stop us taking drastic action.


 I would like to start up an expat support group for anyone who just needs to have someone to listen, someone to be there for them and someone to support them in tough times. If anyone is interested in volunteering/donating  to help set up and fund this group, then please let me know by private mail.


Thank you .

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The recent suicide of an acquaintance started me thinking about how lonely some people must be here in Switzerland.


We come to this country usually on some kind of an adventure or for a job or with a partner, and suddenly find ourselves alone and that the adventure is not quite what we expected. What do we do about it.?


So who do we turn to when we need help, ?


We meet so many people at various events and functions. We say hi and ask how they are, and everyone says “im good thanks”  but how many of us are really good and do we really care about others. ?


How many of those people on your Friends list could you actually talk to ? How many of us are actually there, when someone needs us?  I have over 600 friends on my lists, but theres only about 4 or 5 I can actually talk to. I am really grateful to those people who have been “there” for me , when life has been tough. So I consider myself lucky , that there is someone for me to turn to.


But what about those who feel they have no one ?


Too often we find ourselves hiding behind the walls of modern social media, Facebook, Whatsapp, chat pages, etc etc,  pretending that everything is okay, when really everything around us is falling apart and  all we really need is someone to talk to person to person. How often do you actually pick up the phone to have a conversation? How often do you actually meet over a coffee and have a real conversation ?


How often do we sit at home alone and wonder who we can talk to, who could we meet with .? How often do you sit at home and wonder why no one calls ? Maybe we could pick up the phone and have a chat, or go out one on one for a coffee with someone who is willing to listen.


I find it quite sad to think that there are so many expats out there in similar situations, who think that the  only alternative is to end it all. We all have good moments and bad ones , funny and sad ones and we all need someone to be there for us, not to say much, but just to be supportive and listen to our story. To listen to who we really are, to offer comfort. Sometimes all we need is a hug, or a word of encouragement to stop us taking drastic action.


 I would like to start up an expat support group for anyone who just needs to have someone to listen, someone to be there for them and someone to support them in tough times. If anyone is interested in volunteering/donating  to help set up and fund this group, then please let me know by private mail.


Thank you .


Karl NOct 23, 2013 @ 10:39
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Great initiative Karl!

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Great initiative Karl!


Izzie, Oct 23, 2013 @ 10:42
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This is so true! And i really appreciate your intiative. I see this around so much and so often. People are lonely and many times depressed. Some try to hide behind social media some turn to alcohol and loud parties in order not to hear the echos of loneliness. People are scared of taken advantage of, they are scared of invading other people's privacy, scared of rejection and being hurt. We have made those thick walls around ourselves and now they are haunting us. We have stopped making friends with "people" but rather with their positions and how much that can help us. Its really time to change it and you are doing something really good :)

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This is so true! And i really appreciate your intiative. I see this around so much and so often. People are lonely and many times depressed. Some try to hide behind social media some turn to alcohol and loud parties in order not to hear the echos of loneliness. People are scared of taken advantage of, they are scared of invading other people's privacy, scared of rejection and being hurt. We have made those thick walls around ourselves and now they are haunting us. We have stopped making friends with "people" but rather with their positions and how much that can help us. Its really time to change it and you are doing something really good :)


Mona Hadi, Oct 23, 2013 @ 10:55
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I have started an initial Facebook page for those who are interested. Please join if you feel you can help in anyway. 


 


https://www.facebook.com/groups/167992396732495/


 

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I have started an initial Facebook page for those who are interested. Please join if you feel you can help in anyway. 


 


https://www.facebook.com/groups/167992396732495/


 


Karl N, Oct 23, 2013 @ 12:13
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I have started an initial Facebook page for those who are interested. Please join if you feel you can help in anyway. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/167992396732495/

 


Oct 23, 13 12:13

Wonderful and important idea, and I'd like to help, too.


However, I'm not on Facebook and actually wasn't planning to change that...


Is there a way to participate without allowing FB to become a shareholder of my life?

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Wonderful and important idea, and I'd like to help, too.


However, I'm not on Facebook and actually wasn't planning to change that...


Is there a way to participate without allowing FB to become a shareholder of my life?


Stephanie D, Oct 23, 2013 @ 12:37
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Karl:


I've sent you a p.m.


R.

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Karl:


I've sent you a p.m.


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Ritchie, Oct 23, 2013 @ 12:47
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Karl, I looked at the page and its an open group. Would it be possible to put some kind of privacy on it? I dont want it to be all over my newsfeed whenever I comment or like something, and all my friends/relatives would be monitoring my activities ;) may be some kind of privacy would make it easier for people to express themselves no? Just an idea...

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Karl, I looked at the page and its an open group. Would it be possible to put some kind of privacy on it? I dont want it to be all over my newsfeed whenever I comment or like something, and all my friends/relatives would be monitoring my activities ;) may be some kind of privacy would make it easier for people to express themselves no? Just an idea...


Mona Hadi, Oct 23, 2013 @ 12:48
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Hi Stephanie, 


yes of course there is , FB is simply a way of keeping us all togther and a for now option so people can find us. 


Pleas send me a PM with your private mail details, and i will message you once we have a firm meeting date to discuss this,


thanks 


 


Karl

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Hi Stephanie, 


yes of course there is , FB is simply a way of keeping us all togther and a for now option so people can find us. 


Pleas send me a PM with your private mail details, and i will message you once we have a firm meeting date to discuss this,


thanks 


 


Karl


Karl N, Oct 23, 2013 @ 12:54
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Karl, I looked at the page and its an open group. Would it be possible to put some kind of privacy on it? I dont want it to be all over my newsfeed whenever I comment or like something, and all my friends/relatives would be monitoring my activities ;) may be some kind of privacy would make it easier for people to express themselves no? Just an idea...


Oct 23, 13 12:48

thats now changed :) 


thanks


 


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thats now changed :) 


thanks


 


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Karl N, Oct 23, 2013 @ 12:56
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We now have 12 volunteers already !! wow thank you.... any comments , help , support, financial aid would be greatly appreciated :) 


Cool

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We now have 12 volunteers already !! wow thank you.... any comments , help , support, financial aid would be greatly appreciated :) 


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Karl N, Oct 23, 2013 @ 13:26
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Firstly, thank you for the long, thoughtful post, Karl.


Secondly, I would just like to say that these remarks are NOT directed at anyone, just my personal opinions.  


However, if you see them as a criticism or judgement, instead of an observation, you will never live with an attitude of opportunity, because:


If you live with an attitude of fear, you will never live with an attitude of hope


If you live with an attitude of lack, you will never live with an attitude of abundance


If you live with an attitude of victim, you will never live with an attitude of victor


No-one made this life for you or I, we did that all by ourselves.  The choices that you made (even when you chose not to make a choice) form your reality and the “life” that you live in.  If you want to change your life, if you want to change your reality, then you have to change your point of view and make different choices. 


Someone once asked me (angrily) “why do you think life is just one big bloody game” and the answer I give is:


It just is.  Just one big game and if you’re not happy with where you are on the playing field, go find another game to play.  


If you’re not happy with your team, go find another team. 


If you’re not happy with your performance then go find something that you’re good at but never, EVER, forget that you have the choice to either Play the Game of Life, or you can let someone else go play it for you, whilst you sit in the bleachers.


Having a “support group” is a great idea, but even the word “support” lends itself to a “victim attitude”.  


Why not form an “Encouragement Group” where you can be uplifting, motivational, invigorating and inspirational?


It might help with the Game of Life. Kiss  

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Firstly, thank you for the long, thoughtful post, Karl.


Secondly, I would just like to say that these remarks are NOT directed at anyone, just my personal opinions.  


However, if you see them as a criticism or judgement, instead of an observation, you will never live with an attitude of opportunity, because:


If you live with an attitude of fear, you will never live with an attitude of hope


If you live with an attitude of lack, you will never live with an attitude of abundance


If you live with an attitude of victim, you will never live with an attitude of victor


No-one made this life for you or I, we did that all by ourselves.  The choices that you made (even when you chose not to make a choice) form your reality and the “life” that you live in.  If you want to change your life, if you want to change your reality, then you have to change your point of view and make different choices. 


Someone once asked me (angrily) “why do you think life is just one big bloody game” and the answer I give is:


It just is.  Just one big game and if you’re not happy with where you are on the playing field, go find another game to play.  


If you’re not happy with your team, go find another team. 


If you’re not happy with your performance then go find something that you’re good at but never, EVER, forget that you have the choice to either Play the Game of Life, or you can let someone else go play it for you, whilst you sit in the bleachers.


Having a “support group” is a great idea, but even the word “support” lends itself to a “victim attitude”.  


Why not form an “Encouragement Group” where you can be uplifting, motivational, invigorating and inspirational?


It might help with the Game of Life. Kiss  


Carolyn C, Oct 23, 2013 @ 14:21
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Is there a way for people to moderate comments posted on threads? This thread was started on a positive note with an amazing incentive started from unimaginable and sad circumstances. However one comment (while attempting to be positive but failing miserably) will start an onslaught of unnesscary comments.


Encouragement comes AFTER support. Once people are given the tools and are shown that there are others around to help will they feel encouraged to see life differently...depression comes in all forms and cannot be understood by people with a happier dispoisition in life (even if it is a conscious decision you choose to make)


Good job Karl, I hope you get a lot more volunteers. You can add my name to the list.

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Is there a way for people to moderate comments posted on threads? This thread was started on a positive note with an amazing incentive started from unimaginable and sad circumstances. However one comment (while attempting to be positive but failing miserably) will start an onslaught of unnesscary comments.


Encouragement comes AFTER support. Once people are given the tools and are shown that there are others around to help will they feel encouraged to see life differently...depression comes in all forms and cannot be understood by people with a happier dispoisition in life (even if it is a conscious decision you choose to make)


Good job Karl, I hope you get a lot more volunteers. You can add my name to the list.


Dhamari N, Oct 23, 2013 @ 14:43
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Caroline, this has nothing to do with anyone being a victim... the group is intended as a support mechanism, whne there is no one else to turn to. Im sorry you feel that its a good idea to turn this into something thats for victims... this thread is not intended for advice on how to cope, nor a place for people to spout off about how to get of your arse and do something about an issue. 


This is a very very serious issue, and there are plenty of people out there who feel lonley, sad, dissilusioned, unhappy , and this leads to a depressive state... I want people to know , that there ARE people out there who are willing and able to help, to be a friend in need, to be a listening ear... so that they dont feel alone ... or lost or that there is nowhere to turn to ... if you have something positive to say , or constructive  then im happy to hear your comments, otherwise, please dont use this as a platform to express what you feel ... and think about others....  If you want to form an encouragement group, then please do so ... 


 


 

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Caroline, this has nothing to do with anyone being a victim... the group is intended as a support mechanism, whne there is no one else to turn to. Im sorry you feel that its a good idea to turn this into something thats for victims... this thread is not intended for advice on how to cope, nor a place for people to spout off about how to get of your arse and do something about an issue. 


This is a very very serious issue, and there are plenty of people out there who feel lonley, sad, dissilusioned, unhappy , and this leads to a depressive state... I want people to know , that there ARE people out there who are willing and able to help, to be a friend in need, to be a listening ear... so that they dont feel alone ... or lost or that there is nowhere to turn to ... if you have something positive to say , or constructive  then im happy to hear your comments, otherwise, please dont use this as a platform to express what you feel ... and think about others....  If you want to form an encouragement group, then please do so ... 


 


 


Karl N, Oct 23, 2013 @ 15:23
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Mmmm... to people feeling very low, I don't agree it makes any positive change to being told they are responsible for their own misery. Although feeling responsible is a part of getting better, you cannot force people into it without taking the risk of making them feel guilty and shameful. It's like pointing out a finger at them and telling them "you lie in your own shit" when some can barely stand on their own feet. I agree with Dhamari, encouragement comes after support. Most people just need to be heard, then they can find their own best solution to their problems.


Dhamari, I don't think Carolyn deserves to be censored. She is entitled to her own opinion. We can just agree to disagree.

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Mmmm... to people feeling very low, I don't agree it makes any positive change to being told they are responsible for their own misery. Although feeling responsible is a part of getting better, you cannot force people into it without taking the risk of making them feel guilty and shameful. It's like pointing out a finger at them and telling them "you lie in your own shit" when some can barely stand on their own feet. I agree with Dhamari, encouragement comes after support. Most people just need to be heard, then they can find their own best solution to their problems.


Dhamari, I don't think Carolyn deserves to be censored. She is entitled to her own opinion. We can just agree to disagree.


Izzie, Oct 23, 2013 @ 15:37
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Firstly, thank you for the long, thoughtful post, Karl.

Secondly, I would just like to say that these remarks are NOT directed at anyone, just my personal opinions.  

However, if you see them as a criticism or judgement, instead of an observation, you will never live with an attitude of opportunity, because:

If you live with an attitude of fear, you will never live with an attitude of hope

If you live with an attitude of lack, you will never live with an attitude of abundance

If you live with an attitude of victim, you will never live with an attitude of victor

No-one made this life for you or I, we did that all by ourselves.  The choices that you made (even when you chose not to make a choice) form your reality and the “life” that you live in.  If you want to change your life, if you want to change your reality, then you have to change your point of view and make different choices. 

Someone once asked me (angrily) “why do you think life is just one big bloody game” and the answer I give is:

It just is.  Just one big game and if you’re not happy with where you are on the playing field, go find another game to play.  

If you’re not happy with your team, go find another team. 

If you’re not happy with your performance then go find something that you’re good at but never, EVER, forget that you have the choice to either Play the Game of Life, or you can let someone else go play it for you, whilst you sit in the bleachers.

Having a “support group” is a great idea, but even the word “support” lends itself to a “victim attitude”.  

Why not form an “Encouragement Group” where you can be uplifting, motivational, invigorating and inspirational?

It might help with the Game of Life. Kiss  


Oct 23, 13 14:21

I apologise if my words seem a bit harsh Caroline, but my whole point is that sometimes, in this life you feel all alone, and theres NO ONE to turn to , I want to change that, so that there IS someone to Turn to .... whatever you need... whenever you need... and to know that suicide is NOT the answer. That life IS for living , and for having FUN and for Enjoying... and that there is an alternative way .... 


 

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I apologise if my words seem a bit harsh Caroline, but my whole point is that sometimes, in this life you feel all alone, and theres NO ONE to turn to , I want to change that, so that there IS someone to Turn to .... whatever you need... whenever you need... and to know that suicide is NOT the answer. That life IS for living , and for having FUN and for Enjoying... and that there is an alternative way .... 


 


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I apologise if my words seem a bit harsh Caroline, but my whole point is that sometimes, in this life you feel all alone, and theres NO ONE to turn to , I want to change that, so that there IS someone to Turn to .... whatever you need... whenever you need... and to know that suicide is NOT the answer. That life IS for living , and for having FUN and for Enjoying... and that there is an alternative way .... 

 


Oct 23, 13 15:55

No apology necessary, Karl.  


However, I smiled to myself that both yourself and Dhamari instantly critisised and judged, not knowing that my experiences (as I posted) were borne out of me having clinical depression, on medication and being counseled in a very dark period of my life.


After being coached in all of the above attitudes, I was able to come out of depression, throw away the medication and come back to living life.  All of which came from learning to "turn to me" for the answers and being lucky enough to have an "encouragement group" - hence the suggestions.


I apologise if anyone was insulted for having a different perception to my own.

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No apology necessary, Karl.  


However, I smiled to myself that both yourself and Dhamari instantly critisised and judged, not knowing that my experiences (as I posted) were borne out of me having clinical depression, on medication and being counseled in a very dark period of my life.


After being coached in all of the above attitudes, I was able to come out of depression, throw away the medication and come back to living life.  All of which came from learning to "turn to me" for the answers and being lucky enough to have an "encouragement group" - hence the suggestions.


I apologise if anyone was insulted for having a different perception to my own.


Carolyn C, Oct 23, 2013 @ 16:09
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No apology necessary, Karl.  

However, I smiled to myself that both yourself and Dhamari instantly critisised and judged, not knowing that my experiences (as I posted) were borne out of me having clinical depression, on medication and being counseled in a very dark period of my life.

After being coached in all of the above attitudes, I was able to come out of depression, throw away the medication and come back to living life.  All of which came from learning to "turn to me" for the answers and being lucky enough to have an "encouragement group" - hence the suggestions.

I apologise if anyone was insulted for having a different perception to my own.


Oct 23, 13 16:09

Its funny how two strangers instantly REACTED to your post...maybe you should have started with this explanation first and saved us the shock and disbelief of reading your first comment. In sensitive matters such as these, a little context can go a long way

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No apology necessary, Karl.  

However, I smiled to myself that both yourself and Dhamari instantly critisised and judged, not knowing that my experiences (as I posted) were borne out of me having clinical depression, on medication and being counseled in a very dark period of my life.

After being coached in all of the above attitudes, I was able to come out of depression, throw away the medication and come back to living life.  All of which came from learning to "turn to me" for the answers and being lucky enough to have an "encouragement group" - hence the suggestions.

I apologise if anyone was insulted for having a different perception to my own.


Oct 23, 13 16:09

Caroline, i wasnt judging you at all, everyone is entitled to thier own opinions... and neither was I insulted... 


I too have been down the dark path of depression, the drugs made it worse !! I to managed to get out of it through sheer strength of will, I had no support and no one to turn to ... I got lucky.... some people dont.. We all have a story to tell, and experiences we would rather not have... again this initiative is to help those that need a listening ear and an encouraging word. 

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Caroline, i wasnt judging you at all, everyone is entitled to thier own opinions... and neither was I insulted... 


I too have been down the dark path of depression, the drugs made it worse !! I to managed to get out of it through sheer strength of will, I had no support and no one to turn to ... I got lucky.... some people dont.. We all have a story to tell, and experiences we would rather not have... again this initiative is to help those that need a listening ear and an encouraging word. 


Karl N, Oct 23, 2013 @ 16:28
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Its funny how two strangers instantly REACTED to your post...maybe you should have started with this explanation first and saved us the shock and disbelief of reading your first comment. In sensitive matters such as these, a little context can go a long way


Oct 23, 13 16:24

Shoulda, woulda, coulda go a long way too... Wink

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Well done, Karl, for raising this and having the strength of character to do something about it.


I have found that the people most affected in this way are often the ones you would consider least likely, which makes it difficult to see coming.


Good luck

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Well done, Karl, for raising this and having the strength of character to do something about it.


I have found that the people most affected in this way are often the ones you would consider least likely, which makes it difficult to see coming.


Good luck


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Thank you for this posting Karl, its so true. If one feels lonely, sad or whatever, you can 153 and I think its called "Der Dargebotene Hand" "The Helping Hand" and I am sure someone speaks English there.


Should somebody feel down or want to talk about anything, please pm me before you do something stupid. I can go for a coffee most of the time. You dont even have to discuss your problems, or we can go for a hike or whatever. Or come over for coffee, we could visit together my local friends, and we try to speak Swiss German or whatever language. Most of my Friends speak more languages than I can count on my hand. So please try 153 or lets go for a drink or even hike, or walk in the woods. There are so many beautiful places around which we could visit.

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Thank you for this posting Karl, its so true. If one feels lonely, sad or whatever, you can 153 and I think its called "Der Dargebotene Hand" "The Helping Hand" and I am sure someone speaks English there.


Should somebody feel down or want to talk about anything, please pm me before you do something stupid. I can go for a coffee most of the time. You dont even have to discuss your problems, or we can go for a hike or whatever. Or come over for coffee, we could visit together my local friends, and we try to speak Swiss German or whatever language. Most of my Friends speak more languages than I can count on my hand. So please try 153 or lets go for a drink or even hike, or walk in the woods. There are so many beautiful places around which we could visit.


Dorothy W, Oct 24, 2013 @ 20:41
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Dial 153 thats the helping hand.

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Dial 153 thats the helping hand.


Dorothy W, Oct 24, 2013 @ 20:50
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I think such a group is need urgently, count me in Karl.


When I read about a Kamboshian guy who was found dead in Paris after 8 years, then I know big cities are extrem anonymous, so lets stop this anonymity, or whatever you call it and support ourselves. Thank you so much Karl.

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I think such a group is need urgently, count me in Karl.


When I read about a Kamboshian guy who was found dead in Paris after 8 years, then I know big cities are extrem anonymous, so lets stop this anonymity, or whatever you call it and support ourselves. Thank you so much Karl.


Dorothy W, Oct 24, 2013 @ 20:51
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Thank you for this posting Karl, its so true. If one feels lonely, sad or whatever, you can 153 and I think its called "Der Dargebotene Hand" "The Helping Hand" and I am sure someone speaks English there.

Should somebody feel down or want to talk about anything, please pm me before you do something stupid. I can go for a coffee most of the time. You dont even have to discuss your problems, or we can go for a hike or whatever. Or come over for coffee, we could visit together my local friends, and we try to speak Swiss German or whatever language. Most of my Friends speak more languages than I can count on my hand. So please try 153 or lets go for a drink or even hike, or walk in the woods. There are so many beautiful places around which we could visit.


Oct 24, 13 20:41

Dorothy W - I think you're a fake.  I've tried to check out your profile but you're blocked to "just friends" but even looking at your posts, I can see that you're a fake, because there are no angel wings attached to your photo, there are no "beautiful people" comments attached to your profile.


Which leads me to believe that you truely are an angel in disguise.  I follow all your posts, so I know/think that this may be true & assume that you made that up :-)


I think you're hiding something :-)

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Dorothy W - I think you're a fake.  I've tried to check out your profile but you're blocked to "just friends" but even looking at your posts, I can see that you're a fake, because there are no angel wings attached to your photo, there are no "beautiful people" comments attached to your profile.


Which leads me to believe that you truely are an angel in disguise.  I follow all your posts, so I know/think that this may be true & assume that you made that up :-)


I think you're hiding something :-)


Carolyn C, Oct 24, 2013 @ 22:11
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Thank you Carolyn, I was not aware that my profile is blocked, I will unblock it now. Hope I can. After unblocking my profile, will go on the Balcony hope to catch some stars passing around, who know I might even meet my angel guide. Wow .... Actually I love to sit on the balcony at night and watch and listen to those small noises you can only hear at night.


Carolyn You are so sweet. Sleep well and tight

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Thank you Carolyn, I was not aware that my profile is blocked, I will unblock it now. Hope I can. After unblocking my profile, will go on the Balcony hope to catch some stars passing around, who know I might even meet my angel guide. Wow .... Actually I love to sit on the balcony at night and watch and listen to those small noises you can only hear at night.


Carolyn You are so sweet. Sleep well and tight


Dorothy W, Oct 24, 2013 @ 23:44
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Thank you all for your wonderful mails of support and offers of help.... the response has been amazing... and very very much appreciated. I will be in touch shortly to arrange a meeting to discuss this further ...  big hugs, and big thank yous :) 

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Thank you all for your wonderful mails of support and offers of help.... the response has been amazing... and very very much appreciated. I will be in touch shortly to arrange a meeting to discuss this further ...  big hugs, and big thank yous :) 


Karl N, Oct 25, 2013 @ 12:54
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Thank you Carolyn, I was not aware that my profile is blocked, I will unblock it now. Hope I can. After unblocking my profile, will go on the Balcony hope to catch some stars passing around, who know I might even meet my angel guide. Wow .... Actually I love to sit on the balcony at night and watch and listen to those small noises you can only hear at night.

Carolyn You are so sweet. Sleep well and tight


Oct 24, 13 23:44

Nice angel guide you have there...

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Nice angel guide you have there...


TreeOf Life, Oct 26, 2013 @ 17:45
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I owne a Traditional Thai Relaxation Institut in Ferney near Geneva Airport / U.N / I.L.O / W.H.O.  


I had opened a Glocals group some time ago in order to gather small groups for some tea there where attendees can meet and discuss what they find/found around here(Geneva/Ferney) to "relax".


i have noticed that a lot of people try and find some peace of mind at various events, training, etc but I feel some keep on searching and actually do not find what they are looking for in the deep of themselves.


I haven't organised anything yet as the amount of group members is very low and no one has shown interest yet.  However, if there is any interest, I could organise a free 1-2 hours small (small place) gathering at the Institute where we could meet and sip some Thai tea and everyone could exchange their ideas, and maybe make friends!

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I owne a Traditional Thai Relaxation Institut in Ferney near Geneva Airport / U.N / I.L.O / W.H.O.  


I had opened a Glocals group some time ago in order to gather small groups for some tea there where attendees can meet and discuss what they find/found around here(Geneva/Ferney) to "relax".


i have noticed that a lot of people try and find some peace of mind at various events, training, etc but I feel some keep on searching and actually do not find what they are looking for in the deep of themselves.


I haven't organised anything yet as the amount of group members is very low and no one has shown interest yet.  However, if there is any interest, I could organise a free 1-2 hours small (small place) gathering at the Institute where we could meet and sip some Thai tea and everyone could exchange their ideas, and maybe make friends!


TreeOf Life, Oct 26, 2013 @ 17:47
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Karl, your writing totally reflects your beautiful soul and I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for that thread! Great, that you speak out and offer help I really hope you will reach plenty of people!


 

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Karl, your writing totally reflects your beautiful soul and I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for that thread! Great, that you speak out and offer help I really hope you will reach plenty of people!


 


Corinna G, Oct 26, 2013 @ 19:28
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Karl, your writing totally reflects your beautiful soul and I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for that thread! Great, that you speak out and offer help I really hope you will reach plenty of people!

 


Oct 26, 13 19:28

Thank you Corrina :) ive had a wonderful response... especially from people offering there help. 


 

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Thank you Corrina :) ive had a wonderful response... especially from people offering there help. 


 


Karl N, Oct 27, 2013 @ 15:44
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Thanks Karl for using this platforme for something useful to help our brothers and sisters when they most need it. I used to volonteer in social field. It's my pleasure to join the group and please count on me.


For anyone, please do not hesitate to contact me if you feel like need help or talk to someone. I will be there for you.


YOU ARE NOT ALONE, Trust me!


Thank you.


 

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Thanks Karl for using this platforme for something useful to help our brothers and sisters when they most need it. I used to volonteer in social field. It's my pleasure to join the group and please count on me.


For anyone, please do not hesitate to contact me if you feel like need help or talk to someone. I will be there for you.


YOU ARE NOT ALONE, Trust me!


Thank you.


 


Monikina, Nov 3, 2013 @ 10:26
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Jan 1, 70 01:00

Thank you Cheryl-Lee you are right. Here it is.

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Thank you Cheryl-Lee you are right. Here it is.


Dorothy W, Nov 3, 2013 @ 12:29
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So the holidays are coming, so I give my 2 cents.


Some turn to 'God' or Gods.


Some search for 'Spiritualism'


Some are angry and turn to Demon or alternative sects bu..sh..tz.


Some turn to Sports Laughing


Many turn to Alcohol Wink and/or drugs.


Some watch TV.


Most are deceived..... An analogy, similiar, what is the most valuable asset to a company? Furniture or people? Really does god prefer the people who can donate the 10%? Does Alcohol/drugs make you more upset, sad and angry? Sports is good for health, but does this fulfill me? What do we need, rounded needs?


I watch Jon Stewart show, Simpsons and Family Guy. I hope I am then aware and informed :)


(kidding a-side, Family, Death and Taxes is the only sure thing. Even if you love or hate them).

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So the holidays are coming, so I give my 2 cents.


Some turn to 'God' or Gods.


Some search for 'Spiritualism'


Some are angry and turn to Demon or alternative sects bu..sh..tz.


Some turn to Sports Laughing


Many turn to Alcohol Wink and/or drugs.


Some watch TV.


Most are deceived..... An analogy, similiar, what is the most valuable asset to a company? Furniture or people? Really does god prefer the people who can donate the 10%? Does Alcohol/drugs make you more upset, sad and angry? Sports is good for health, but does this fulfill me? What do we need, rounded needs?


I watch Jon Stewart show, Simpsons and Family Guy. I hope I am then aware and informed :)


(kidding a-side, Family, Death and Taxes is the only sure thing. Even if you love or hate them).


Dave G, Nov 3, 2013 @ 16:28
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Hi Karl, sorry for getting back to you so late. I have been a bit busy. I read the terms and conditions of the possible NGO you might be starting and I would like some clarification on "Memebers would be personally responsible for any debts and financial loss to the organisation" (I am not sure these are exact words, but something like that). Before I join as a member I would like to know exactly all my liabilities. Thank you and good work :) 

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Hi Karl, sorry for getting back to you so late. I have been a bit busy. I read the terms and conditions of the possible NGO you might be starting and I would like some clarification on "Memebers would be personally responsible for any debts and financial loss to the organisation" (I am not sure these are exact words, but something like that). Before I join as a member I would like to know exactly all my liabilities. Thank you and good work :) 


Mona Hadi, Nov 3, 2013 @ 17:53
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Hi Karl, sorry for getting back to you so late. I have been a bit busy. I read the terms and conditions of the possible NGO you might be starting and I would like some clarification on "Memebers would be personally responsible for any debts and financial loss to the organisation" (I am not sure these are exact words, but something like that). Before I join as a member I would like to know exactly all my liabilities. Thank you and good work :) 


Nov 3, 13 17:53

Hi Mona,


these are general terms and conditions for the executive comitee of the yet to be formed NGO.. As a volunteer you do not have any financial responsibilities or comitments.


I hope this clarifies things. 


 


thanks 


Karl 

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Hi Mona,


these are general terms and conditions for the executive comitee of the yet to be formed NGO.. As a volunteer you do not have any financial responsibilities or comitments.


I hope this clarifies things. 


 


thanks 


Karl 


Karl N, Nov 4, 2013 @ 08:48
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