Has anyone had the experience of soundproofing a wall in their apartment? If you have had the experience, does it really work?
It’s not a question of very loud music, more just the TV & voices? Is it enough just to do the adjoining wall?
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Sep 23, 2015 @ 15:52
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Has anyone had the experience of soundproofing a wall in their apartment? If you have had the experience, does it really work?
It’s not a question of very loud music, more just the TV & voices? Is it enough just to do the adjoining wall?
OonaghSep 23, 2015 @ 15:52
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Sep 23, 2015 @ 16:07
if you're on your own, better to have wireless headphones for the TV. sound proofing a wall will never be as good as headphones. 
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if you're on your own, better to have wireless headphones for the TV. sound proofing a wall will never be as good as headphones.
epicure, Sep 23, 2015 @ 16:07
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Sep 23, 2015 @ 16:17
if you're on your own, better to have wireless headphones for the TV. sound proofing a wall will never be as good as headphones.
Sep 23, 15 16:07
I am not alone ;-) I have a neighbour from hell, so let’s just say it’s more so our voices and TV are not as audible to him (he likes to listen to our conversations as has nothing better to do)So we thought if we soundproofed the wall between our sitting rooms it might help.
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I am not alone ;-) I have a neighbour from hell, so let’s just say it’s more so our voices and TV are not as audible to him (he likes to listen to our conversations as has nothing better to do)So we thought if we soundproofed the wall between our sitting rooms it might help.
Oonagh, Sep 23, 2015 @ 16:17
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Sep 23, 2015 @ 16:29
Sadly not mine but i am not planning to move in the near future as its a good dead (except for the crazy neighbour) I dont want to eat up to much space either, willing to make the investment if it will help.
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Sadly not mine but i am not planning to move in the near future as its a good dead (except for the crazy neighbour) I dont want to eat up to much space either, willing to make the investment if it will help.
Oonagh, Sep 23, 2015 @ 16:29
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Sep 23, 2015 @ 21:57
You would probably need to talk to your regie before doing anything just to be on the safe side
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You would probably need to talk to your regie before doing anything just to be on the safe side
delseta9_, Sep 23, 2015 @ 21:57
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Sep 23, 2015 @ 22:12
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Sep 24, 2015 @ 08:45
Thank i can use youtube 
Has anyone had the experience of soundproofing a wall in their apartment? If you have had the experience, does it really work?
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Thank i can use youtube Has anyone had the experience of soundproofing a wall in their apartment? If you have had the experience, does it really work?
Oonagh, Sep 24, 2015 @ 08:45
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Sep 24, 2015 @ 23:08
Very interested in the response to your question as I often feel I am living WITH my neighbours rather than on the floor below.You have all my sympathy
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Very interested in the response to your question as I often feel I am living WITH my neighbours rather than on the floor below.You have all my sympathy
buzzcocks, Sep 24, 2015 @ 23:08
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Sep 25, 2015 @ 06:00
yes, would love to learn this as well, maybe some kind of large insulation boards that could be put next to the walls. Hope to receive some useful information..
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yes, would love to learn this as well, maybe some kind of large insulation boards that could be put next to the walls. Hope to receive some useful information..
Rasputin, Sep 25, 2015 @ 06:00
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Sep 25, 2015 @ 09:09
Awaiting some knowledge from here but I suppose so many people like me are renting so don’t want to invest and we just put up with it L I have read some things on line but its hard to know if it really works.
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Awaiting some knowledge from here but I suppose so many people like me are renting so don’t want to invest and we just put up with it L I have read some things on line but its hard to know if it really works.
Oonagh, Sep 25, 2015 @ 09:09
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Sep 25, 2015 @ 09:10
You would probably need to talk to your regie before doing anything just to be on the safe side
Sep 23, 15 21:57
It would be good to have some panels that can be removed easily if we leave or i am sure iof its painted and looks nice the next renter would be very happy ;-)
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It would be good to have some panels that can be removed easily if we leave or i am sure iof its painted and looks nice the next renter would be very happy ;-)
Oonagh, Sep 25, 2015 @ 09:10
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Sep 25, 2015 @ 12:15
It would be relatively easy to put some insulation like the following:
(There are other similar product specifically made for acoustic insulation. The one above is more generic sound+thermal insulation.)
They're normally glued to the wall, but you could fix them with some planks/screws, to avoid any permanent change to the appartment. You can also have them thinner, but then you loose some efficiency.
Note however, that sound goes around where it can, so insulating one wall may not be efficient enough. E.g. how well is the ceiling insulated?
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It would be relatively easy to put some insulation like the following:
(There are other similar product specifically made for acoustic insulation. The one above is more generic sound+thermal insulation.)
They're normally glued to the wall, but you could fix them with some planks/screws, to avoid any permanent change to the appartment. You can also have them thinner, but then you loose some efficiency.
Note however, that sound goes around where it can, so insulating one wall may not be efficient enough. E.g. how well is the ceiling insulated?
tawb, Sep 25, 2015 @ 12:15
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Sep 25, 2015 @ 12:42
It would be relatively easy to put some insulation like the following:
(There are other similar product specifically made for acoustic insulation. The one above is more generic sound+thermal insulation.)
They're normally glued to the wall, but you could fix them with some planks/screws, to avoid any permanent change to the appartment. You can also have them thinner, but then you loose some efficiency.
Note however, that sound goes around where it can, so insulating one wall may not be efficient enough. E.g. how well is the ceiling insulated?
Sep 25, 15 12:15
Thank you, from upstairs i never hear anything so my preference would be just the wall between our 2 sitting rooms. It really more for voices than music as there is not normally loud music unless he is on a vengeance rampage!!!
Have you used this insulation from leroymerlin?
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Thank you, from upstairs i never hear anything so my preference would be just the wall between our 2 sitting rooms. It really more for voices than music as there is not normally loud music unless he is on a vengeance rampage!!!
Have you used this insulation from leroymerlin?
Oonagh, Sep 25, 2015 @ 12:42
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Sep 25, 2015 @ 16:56
Thank you, from upstairs i never hear anything so my preference would be just the wall between our 2 sitting rooms. It really more for voices than music as there is not normally loud music unless he is on a vengeance rampage!!!
Have you used this insulation from leroymerlin?
Sep 25, 15 12:42
The product is not specifically L eroy Merlin, all building suppliers have it.
I've used the stuff, but for thermal isulation, so I have no idea how much it will help for noise. And as I said, it really depends on where the noise is getting through.
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The product is not specifically L eroy Merlin, all building suppliers have it.
I've used the stuff, but for thermal isulation, so I have no idea how much it will help for noise. And as I said, it really depends on where the noise is getting through.
tawb, Sep 25, 2015 @ 16:56
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Sep 25, 2015 @ 17:03
You would also have to consider how easy it is for you to do. These plates weigh 40kgs each, and you need to be at least 2 people to carry them. Cutting them to size is easy and can be done with any saw you that have, preferably an electric jigsaw. Don't make any holes for electric plugs, since that would reduce the insulation.
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You would also have to consider how easy it is for you to do. These plates weigh 40kgs each, and you need to be at least 2 people to carry them. Cutting them to size is easy and can be done with any saw you that have, preferably an electric jigsaw. Don't make any holes for electric plugs, since that would reduce the insulation.
tawb, Sep 25, 2015 @ 17:03
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Sep 25, 2015 @ 18:26
Thanks tawb. In fact my purpose is to find foam boards (~2m high) as light as possible, as I will use them for back drops and light modifiers mainly for my home photography studio (check https://youtu.be/rkezV6lI3qE?t=2m57s . I think they can also block reflections from bare walls, which can help with the audio quality in the apartment.
Any suggestions where I could look for them around Geneva? I checked the Migros do it yourself & Jumbo but no chance so far.
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Thanks tawb. In fact my purpose is to find foam boards (~2m high) as light as possible, as I will use them for back drops and light modifiers mainly for my home photography studio (check https://youtu.be/rkezV6lI3qE?t=2m57s . I think they can also block reflections from bare walls, which can help with the audio quality in the apartment.
Any suggestions where I could look for them around Geneva? I checked the Migros do it yourself & Jumbo but no chance so far.
Rasputin, Sep 25, 2015 @ 18:26
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Sep 26, 2015 @ 09:52
Thanks tawb. In fact my purpose is to find foam boards (~2m high) as light as possible, as I will use them for back drops and light modifiers mainly for my home photography studio (check https://youtu.be/rkezV6lI3qE?t=2m57s . I think they can also block reflections from bare walls, which can help with the audio quality in the apartment.
Any suggestions where I could look for them around Geneva? I checked the Migros do it yourself & Jumbo but no chance so far.
Sep 25, 15 18:26
It's easy to find foam glued together with plaster. But they're not light. Foam alone, I bought in sizes of 1.20x60. Don't know if you get them bigger.
If you want something light, you could use the plastic terrase roofing plastics. They're strong and light. E.g.
You might find them in white, otherwise you'd need to paint them. Or cover them in some sound-absorbant material.
I'd check the builder's shops. Don't know the market in CH, you could try Hornbach in Etoy. (I know they have the roofing stuff.) Otherwise in France, you could try LeroyMerlin, Samse or PointP..
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It's easy to find foam glued together with plaster. But they're not light. Foam alone, I bought in sizes of 1.20x60. Don't know if you get them bigger.
If you want something light, you could use the plastic terrase roofing plastics. They're strong and light. E.g.
You might find them in white, otherwise you'd need to paint them. Or cover them in some sound-absorbant material.
I'd check the builder's shops. Don't know the market in CH, you could try Hornbach in Etoy. (I know they have the roofing stuff.) Otherwise in France, you could try LeroyMerlin, Samse or PointP..
tawb, Sep 26, 2015 @ 09:52
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Sep 27, 2015 @ 13:13
Hi All
The easiest solution I can think of is Pavatherm panels (made by Pavatex) the format of the panels is 2m high x 60cm wide and they weigh approx 9kg each at 40mm thickness as well as being easy to cut. Their datasheet (searchable easily online) claims up to 27dB sound insulation. They have a tongue and groove system (photo attached) which allows them to slot together and be screwed to the wall easily. You then cover with a thin panel that is laminated the colour you want (white probably) or a wood panel/plasterboard you can paint. Finish the bottom with a strip of skirting board that matches the current and close the top gap with mastic.
Pavatex products are supplied by the big sawmill in Geneva : Corabois. Price for Pavatherm seems to be about 20 CHF per m2. My salesguy there speaks English and is very helpful if you want advice, PM me for his contact details.
Jokeshops like Jumbo don't supply decent products in my opinion!
Cheers
Sam
Woodhouse Carpentry & Custom Furniture
www.wood-house.ch
Workshop address: Chemin Delay 3, 1214 Vernier
Business contact address: Rue de Saint Jean 23, 1203 Geneva
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The easiest solution I can think of is Pavatherm panels (made by Pavatex) the format of the panels is 2m high x 60cm wide and they weigh approx 9kg each at 40mm thickness as well as being easy to cut. Their datasheet (searchable easily online) claims up to 27dB sound insulation. They have a tongue and groove system (photo attached) which allows them to slot together and be screwed to the wall easily. You then cover with a thin panel that is laminated the colour you want (white probably) or a wood panel/plasterboard you can paint. Finish the bottom with a strip of skirting board that matches the current and close the top gap with mastic.
Pavatex products are supplied by the big sawmill in Geneva : Corabois. Price for Pavatherm seems to be about 20 CHF per m2. My salesguy there speaks English and is very helpful if you want advice, PM me for his contact details.
Jokeshops like Jumbo don't supply decent products in my opinion!
Cheers
Sam
Woodhouse Carpentry & Custom Furniture
www.wood-house.ch
Workshop address: Chemin Delay 3, 1214 Vernier
Business contact address: Rue de Saint Jean 23, 1203 Geneva
SamW, Sep 27, 2015 @ 13:13
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Sep 28, 2015 @ 08:56
Hi All
The easiest solution I can think of is Pavatherm panels (made by Pavatex) the format of the panels is 2m high x 60cm wide and they weigh approx 9kg each at 40mm thickness as well as being easy to cut. Their datasheet (searchable easily online) claims up to 27dB sound insulation. They have a tongue and groove system (photo attached) which allows them to slot together and be screwed to the wall easily. You then cover with a thin panel that is laminated the colour you want (white probably) or a wood panel/plasterboard you can paint. Finish the bottom with a strip of skirting board that matches the current and close the top gap with mastic.
Pavatex products are supplied by the big sawmill in Geneva : Corabois. Price for Pavatherm seems to be about 20 CHF per m2. My salesguy there speaks English and is very helpful if you want advice, PM me for his contact details.
Jokeshops like Jumbo don't supply decent products in my opinion!
Cheers
Sam
Woodhouse Carpentry & Custom Furniture
www.wood-house.ch
Workshop address: Chemin Delay 3, 1214 Vernier
Business contact address: Rue de Saint Jean 23, 1203 Geneva
Sep 27, 15 13:13
Hi Sam, thank for the information, i will check this
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May 6, 2016 @ 12:34
So an update on my soundproofing experience, finally after some research we went to Leroy merlin got some advice, one guy suggested matson plates which would be around 450€ for 1 wall and you lose maybe 1 or 2 cm but the reviews were not great so we didn’t risk it. We ended up spending around 450€ with the paint.
We used 1 layer of ‘Plaque pliante Selitac 3 mm’, put the metal rails on top, put the ‘laine de roche 4cm’ then a layer of ‘Plaque d'assise Selitac 5 mm’ then a layer of special soundproofing plaster board. We lost 7cm but it works against voices and high TV sounds, it really blocks out these sounds. If your neighbour plays constant bass music you will hear it as we discovered last weekend, that was solved by calling 117.
I am not sure if we skipped the Selitac layers if it would have made a difference. Now we need to finish to paint the wall but we are so happy we did it and wish we had done it sooner.
http://www.hornbach.ch/shop/Plaque-dassise-Selitac-5mm-pack-de-5-m2/3828955/article.html
http://www.hornbach.ch/shop/Plaque-pliante-Selitac-3-mm/7898571/article.html
http://www.leroymerlin.fr/v3/p/produits/rail-de-48-35-mm-long-3m-e1401116922
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So an update on my soundproofing experience, finally after some research we went to Leroy merlin got some advice, one guy suggested matson plates which would be around 450€ for 1 wall and you lose maybe 1 or 2 cm but the reviews were not great so we didn’t risk it. We ended up spending around 450€ with the paint.
We used 1 layer of ‘Plaque pliante Selitac 3 mm’, put the metal rails on top, put the ‘laine de roche 4cm’ then a layer of ‘Plaque d'assise Selitac 5 mm’ then a layer of special soundproofing plaster board. We lost 7cm but it works against voices and high TV sounds, it really blocks out these sounds. If your neighbour plays constant bass music you will hear it as we discovered last weekend, that was solved by calling 117.
I am not sure if we skipped the Selitac layers if it would have made a difference. Now we need to finish to paint the wall but we are so happy we did it and wish we had done it sooner.
http://www.hornbach.ch/shop/Plaque-dassise-Selitac-5mm-pack-de-5-m2/3828955/article.html
http://www.hornbach.ch/shop/Plaque-pliante-Selitac-3-mm/7898571/article.html
http://www.leroymerlin.fr/v3/p/produits/rail-de-48-35-mm-long-3m-e1401116922
Oonagh, May 6, 2016 @ 12:34
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Jul 18, 2016 @ 21:51
I have just read about acoustic tiles in the Huffingdon Post.Anyone tried these?
earplugs block out loud voices and Tv but vibrating sounds - like slamming drawers,things dropped on wooden floors,heavy things moved across the floor etc,these need other solutions.
Anyone know about theses tiles?.
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I have just read about acoustic tiles in the Huffingdon Post.Anyone tried these?
earplugs block out loud voices and Tv but vibrating sounds - like slamming drawers,things dropped on wooden floors,heavy things moved across the floor etc,these need other solutions.
Anyone know about theses tiles?.
buzzcocks, Jul 18, 2016 @ 21:51
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