Overheard a stranger telling his mates how he seduced women by using "bastard theory". I reckon he embellished some of the details but it still had a worrying ring to it and basically he said the following:
"If you are at a party and you see a woman you fancy then whatever happens do not talk to her. Speak only to the female friends around her and blatantly flirt with them whilst ignoring the girl you are actually interested in. Buy a round of drinks for everyone in the group, but forget the drink for the girl you fancy. Or get her the wrong drink, if she asked for a cosmopolitan then slam a pint of warm beer on the table in front of her. Do not let her question it and immediately resume flirting with her best female friend. Use a loud confident voice so that the girl you like can easily overhear all the impressive stories you are telling her best friend....stories like the time you were working as a Californian Baywatch lifeguard and runway model, but just to make money to fund your way through medical school. End the story saying you found a cure for bullshititus disease and are currently negotiating the sale to a pharmaceutical company for 9.4 million dollars, so now at the age of 29 you want to settle down. This is like dumping blood soaked flesh into a shark tank and the girl you are pretending not to fancy will now be in love with you. Better yet she knows most men fancy her and so she will be very frustrated that her charms seem to be having no effect on you. She will mistakenly think that you are in a higher league than her and this makes you a challenge so she will re-double her efforts to get you. At this point the professional creep will steal the mobile phone from her handbag and then leave the bar with his arm around the best friend, but say he cannot give a lift to the girl he actually likes because his sportscar only has 2 seats. Hours later the girl notices her phone is missing and calls the number....the man says he picked it up by accident, but if she wants the phone back she will have to collect it from his apartment. She arrives at his place and errr...nature takes its course."
What do I think of his story? This is the tricky bit, adding personal opinion. Well, I have no idea how those men who behave like such creeps actually live with themselves. Shallow, souless, cheap etc does not even come close to describing it. Perhaps they have to pretend to be something they are not because their real personality is so chronically pathetic that they would never get a date in the first place. Clearly such losers use their pants as brain storage compartments. After all, genuine alpha males who are morally upstanding never have to fake it which perhaps explains why women queue up to date them. More to the point, I think most intelligent women would not fall for such scams hook, line and sinker. I reckon they would notice within 2 minutes of meeting such a guy that he was a fake and only after one thing. A woman with style would probably play along at the start but metophorically give the guy enough rope to hang himself. Will never forget hearing the ultimate put down that a girl used last summer to get rid of a wannabe guy trying to chat her up....conversation went like this:
Guy: "sealed the merger deal and blew the bonus on a 36 foot speedboat."
Girl: "really, I have a boat too"
Guy: "how big is it?"
Girl: "well, that is not important, but if you must know it is 27 feet long."
Guy: "Ha! don't get out of bed for 27 feet darling!"
Girl: "where do you keep your boat?"
Guy: "rent a berth in Puerto Banus baby, where you keep yours? Toe it behind your car?"
Girl: "No, the crane lifts it onto the back of my 152 foot ship, and now my security staff will show you the way off my property"
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May 27, 2007 @ 23:17
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Overheard a stranger telling his mates how he seduced women by using "bastard theory". I reckon he embellished some of the details but it still had a worrying ring to it and basically he said the following:
"If you are at a party and you see a woman you fancy then whatever happens do not talk to her. Speak only to the female friends around her and blatantly flirt with them whilst ignoring the girl you are actually interested in. Buy a round of drinks for everyone in the group, but forget the drink for the girl you fancy. Or get her the wrong drink, if she asked for a cosmopolitan then slam a pint of warm beer on the table in front of her. Do not let her question it and immediately resume flirting with her best female friend. Use a loud confident voice so that the girl you like can easily overhear all the impressive stories you are telling her best friend....stories like the time you were working as a Californian Baywatch lifeguard and runway model, but just to make money to fund your way through medical school. End the story saying you found a cure for bullshititus disease and are currently negotiating the sale to a pharmaceutical company for 9.4 million dollars, so now at the age of 29 you want to settle down. This is like dumping blood soaked flesh into a shark tank and the girl you are pretending not to fancy will now be in love with you. Better yet she knows most men fancy her and so she will be very frustrated that her charms seem to be having no effect on you. She will mistakenly think that you are in a higher league than her and this makes you a challenge so she will re-double her efforts to get you. At this point the professional creep will steal the mobile phone from her handbag and then leave the bar with his arm around the best friend, but say he cannot give a lift to the girl he actually likes because his sportscar only has 2 seats. Hours later the girl notices her phone is missing and calls the number....the man says he picked it up by accident, but if she wants the phone back she will have to collect it from his apartment. She arrives at his place and errr...nature takes its course."
What do I think of his story? This is the tricky bit, adding personal opinion. Well, I have no idea how those men who behave like such creeps actually live with themselves. Shallow, souless, cheap etc does not even come close to describing it. Perhaps they have to pretend to be something they are not because their real personality is so chronically pathetic that they would never get a date in the first place. Clearly such losers use their pants as brain storage compartments. After all, genuine alpha males who are morally upstanding never have to fake it which perhaps explains why women queue up to date them. More to the point, I think most intelligent women would not fall for such scams hook, line and sinker. I reckon they would notice within 2 minutes of meeting such a guy that he was a fake and only after one thing. A woman with style would probably play along at the start but metophorically give the guy enough rope to hang himself. Will never forget hearing the ultimate put down that a girl used last summer to get rid of a wannabe guy trying to chat her up....conversation went like this:
Guy: "sealed the merger deal and blew the bonus on a 36 foot speedboat."
Girl: "really, I have a boat too"
Guy: "how big is it?"
Girl: "well, that is not important, but if you must know it is 27 feet long."
Guy: "Ha! don't get out of bed for 27 feet darling!"
Girl: "where do you keep your boat?"
Guy: "rent a berth in Puerto Banus baby, where you keep yours? Toe it behind your car?"
Girl: "No, the crane lifts it onto the back of my 152 foot ship, and now my security staff will show you the way off my property"
philMay 27, 2007 @ 23:17
"If you are at a party and you see a woman you fancy then whatever happens do not talk to her. Speak only to the female friends around her and blatantly flirt with them whilst ignoring the girl you are actually interested in. Buy a round of drinks for everyone in the group, but forget the drink for the girl you fancy. Or get her the wrong drink, if she asked for a cosmopolitan then slam a pint of warm beer on the table in front of her. Do not let her question it and immediately resume flirting with her best female friend. Use a loud confident voice so that the girl you like can easily overhear all the impressive stories you are telling her best friend....stories like the time you were working as a Californian Baywatch lifeguard and runway model, but just to make money to fund your way through medical school. End the story saying you found a cure for bullshititus disease and are currently negotiating the sale to a pharmaceutical company for 9.4 million dollars, so now at the age of 29 you want to settle down. This is like dumping blood soaked flesh into a shark tank and the girl you are pretending not to fancy will now be in love with you. Better yet she knows most men fancy her and so she will be very frustrated that her charms seem to be having no effect on you. She will mistakenly think that you are in a higher league than her and this makes you a challenge so she will re-double her efforts to get you. At this point the professional creep will steal the mobile phone from her handbag and then leave the bar with his arm around the best friend, but say he cannot give a lift to the girl he actually likes because his sportscar only has 2 seats. Hours later the girl notices her phone is missing and calls the number....the man says he picked it up by accident, but if she wants the phone back she will have to collect it from his apartment. She arrives at his place and errr...nature takes its course."
What do I think of his story? This is the tricky bit, adding personal opinion. Well, I have no idea how those men who behave like such creeps actually live with themselves. Shallow, souless, cheap etc does not even come close to describing it. Perhaps they have to pretend to be something they are not because their real personality is so chronically pathetic that they would never get a date in the first place. Clearly such losers use their pants as brain storage compartments. After all, genuine alpha males who are morally upstanding never have to fake it which perhaps explains why women queue up to date them. More to the point, I think most intelligent women would not fall for such scams hook, line and sinker. I reckon they would notice within 2 minutes of meeting such a guy that he was a fake and only after one thing. A woman with style would probably play along at the start but metophorically give the guy enough rope to hang himself. Will never forget hearing the ultimate put down that a girl used last summer to get rid of a wannabe guy trying to chat her up....conversation went like this:
Guy: "sealed the merger deal and blew the bonus on a 36 foot speedboat."
Girl: "really, I have a boat too"
Guy: "how big is it?"
Girl: "well, that is not important, but if you must know it is 27 feet long."
Guy: "Ha! don't get out of bed for 27 feet darling!"
Girl: "where do you keep your boat?"
Guy: "rent a berth in Puerto Banus baby, where you keep yours? Toe it behind your car?"
Girl: "No, the crane lifts it onto the back of my 152 foot ship, and now my security staff will show you the way off my property"
philMay 27, 2007 @ 23:17
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May 28, 2007 @ 16:41
Thanks, the idea for that one presented itself automatically. I was on a 3 a.m. ferry from Calais to Dover and overheard the group of strangers at the neighbouring table who were discussing their endeavours. Seemed like the longest 90 minute ferry journey of my life, but thought their comments might make some reading material for the site.
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Thanks, the idea for that one presented itself automatically. I was on a 3 a.m. ferry from Calais to Dover and overheard the group of strangers at the neighbouring table who were discussing their endeavours. Seemed like the longest 90 minute ferry journey of my life, but thought their comments might make some reading material for the site.
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May 28, 2007 @ 17:54
on of the latest bestseller books. Called the game. Which is about a journalist going under cover and using this techniques to become one of the most popular player/casanova in LA (even being quite ugly) .. so those gentlemen were not even talking about their experience or they were so lame to have actually tried it!
Val
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on of the latest bestseller books. Called the game. Which is about a journalist going under cover and using this techniques to become one of the most popular player/casanova in LA (even being quite ugly) .. so those gentlemen were not even talking about their experience or they were so lame to have actually tried it!
Val
Hoiling, May 28, 2007 @ 17:54
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May 28, 2007 @ 19:29
The guys in question did not seem to have enough brain cells between them to read anything more complicated than a football score, but if that was their inspiration then they probably were lame enough to try it. Thanks Val for the info.
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The guys in question did not seem to have enough brain cells between them to read anything more complicated than a football score, but if that was their inspiration then they probably were lame enough to try it. Thanks Val for the info.
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May 29, 2007 @ 13:20
Susie:
HEY, CALVIN! Are we near a slaughterhouse, or did you forget your deodorant?!
Calvin:
DROP DEAD, SUSIE! You're so ugly, I hear your mom puts a bag over your head before she kisses you goodnight!!
Calvin (to Hobbes)
It's shameless the way we flirt.
HEY, CALVIN! Are we near a slaughterhouse, or did you forget your deodorant?!
Calvin:
DROP DEAD, SUSIE! You're so ugly, I hear your mom puts a bag over your head before she kisses you goodnight!!
Calvin (to Hobbes)
It's shameless the way we flirt.
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Susie:
HEY, CALVIN! Are we near a slaughterhouse, or did you forget your deodorant?!
Calvin:
DROP DEAD, SUSIE! You're so ugly, I hear your mom puts a bag over your head before she kisses you goodnight!!
Calvin (to Hobbes)
It's shameless the way we flirt.
Hobbes, May 29, 2007 @ 13:20
HEY, CALVIN! Are we near a slaughterhouse, or did you forget your deodorant?!
Calvin:
DROP DEAD, SUSIE! You're so ugly, I hear your mom puts a bag over your head before she kisses you goodnight!!
Calvin (to Hobbes)
It's shameless the way we flirt.
Hobbes, May 29, 2007 @ 13:20
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May 29, 2007 @ 13:22
But most women fall for such scams hook as a matter of fact... anyone ou there's got an explanation to suggest ?
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But most women fall for such scams hook as a matter of fact... anyone ou there's got an explanation to suggest ?
Hobbes, May 29, 2007 @ 13:22
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May 29, 2007 @ 13:28
Never heard of the expression .. I don't want him, but I want him to want me??
I guess that's the one reason intelligent women falls for such jerks ...
Pride.
Vale - bored in a fancy hotel waiting for my part in the meeting to start.
I guess that's the one reason intelligent women falls for such jerks ...
Pride.
Vale - bored in a fancy hotel waiting for my part in the meeting to start.
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Never heard of the expression .. I don't want him, but I want him to want me??
I guess that's the one reason intelligent women falls for such jerks ...
Pride.
Vale - bored in a fancy hotel waiting for my part in the meeting to start.
Hoiling, May 29, 2007 @ 13:28
I guess that's the one reason intelligent women falls for such jerks ...
Pride.
Vale - bored in a fancy hotel waiting for my part in the meeting to start.
Hoiling, May 29, 2007 @ 13:28
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May 29, 2007 @ 13:31
but come on ... we all know that teasing is part of flirting, and indeed when u are a kid and have no emotional maturity (and as male are not able to articulate any word related to feelings) is THE only way .. but there;s a difference between that ... and having a standard, proven technique claimed to work. In my knowledge .. playing games never work. What happen to .. go with the flow??
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but come on ... we all know that teasing is part of flirting, and indeed when u are a kid and have no emotional maturity (and as male are not able to articulate any word related to feelings) is THE only way .. but there;s a difference between that ... and having a standard, proven technique claimed to work. In my knowledge .. playing games never work. What happen to .. go with the flow??
Val - Bored today
Hoiling, May 29, 2007 @ 13:31
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May 29, 2007 @ 14:20
Ever noticed ? Take a house party. Here's a group of single males. Most of them are decent, polite, well educated, shaved, well dressed and speak to women as equal. They were on time, brought flowers and took there shoes off, so their CK or Mickey Mouse socks could be seen. They try to be entertaining talking about their coporate job and compliment the host about food and furniture. Here comes two hours late an unshaved, dark and mysterious guy in torn of jeans and 10 years old biker jacket and dirty santiag boots. He sits in a corner with a can of beer and doesn't say a word to anyone. Men look a him with defiance. Girls whisper how cute he would be with a prper air cut. Chances are high that at least one of her will feel that it's her destiny to rescue this hurt by past histories lost soul. She knows boys like that can't make a girl happy in the long term. And if she's officially dreaming for a family and a house, a ride on the wild side at 90mph on a Harley looks much more appealing than a polite lift home in a family van.
To sum it up, if you had the choice between James Dean and Jim Carrey, who would you date ?
Do you think I'm making it up ? Being caricatural ? Some of my female friends have been married with absolute jerks for years. Some were even beaten up. They recon they knew for the start the guy was somehow twisted. But it's what made him so appealing, so irresistible. And at the same time, some of my male friends have just been told by some girls "you're sweet, I like you very much, but you're just way too nice for me to date you", "you're too nice, I don't want to mess with you" or similar.
Some time ago, women were indeed dreaming for marriage and men for one night stands. But after decades of male bastardies, some female have also decided to fight back, and changed their mind. Many girls don't want to get trapped in a relationship. They use men and dispose them as tissues. They run several horses at the same time to make sure that the next one is ready to be picked up before they dump the previous one. The romantic ones get rejected. The serial lovers take their chance. For all that, when bastards get better rewarded than decent blokes, many of the later are tempted to join the "dark side of the force". To idealistic me, the good ones always win in the end, so I wouldn't recommend anyone to play that game. But I can understand that despair pushes some on the bad side.
To sum it up, if you had the choice between James Dean and Jim Carrey, who would you date ?
Do you think I'm making it up ? Being caricatural ? Some of my female friends have been married with absolute jerks for years. Some were even beaten up. They recon they knew for the start the guy was somehow twisted. But it's what made him so appealing, so irresistible. And at the same time, some of my male friends have just been told by some girls "you're sweet, I like you very much, but you're just way too nice for me to date you", "you're too nice, I don't want to mess with you" or similar.
Some time ago, women were indeed dreaming for marriage and men for one night stands. But after decades of male bastardies, some female have also decided to fight back, and changed their mind. Many girls don't want to get trapped in a relationship. They use men and dispose them as tissues. They run several horses at the same time to make sure that the next one is ready to be picked up before they dump the previous one. The romantic ones get rejected. The serial lovers take their chance. For all that, when bastards get better rewarded than decent blokes, many of the later are tempted to join the "dark side of the force". To idealistic me, the good ones always win in the end, so I wouldn't recommend anyone to play that game. But I can understand that despair pushes some on the bad side.
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Ever noticed ? Take a house party. Here's a group of single males. Most of them are decent, polite, well educated, shaved, well dressed and speak to women as equal. They were on time, brought flowers and took there shoes off, so their CK or Mickey Mouse socks could be seen. They try to be entertaining talking about their coporate job and compliment the host about food and furniture. Here comes two hours late an unshaved, dark and mysterious guy in torn of jeans and 10 years old biker jacket and dirty santiag boots. He sits in a corner with a can of beer and doesn't say a word to anyone. Men look a him with defiance. Girls whisper how cute he would be with a prper air cut. Chances are high that at least one of her will feel that it's her destiny to rescue this hurt by past histories lost soul. She knows boys like that can't make a girl happy in the long term. And if she's officially dreaming for a family and a house, a ride on the wild side at 90mph on a Harley looks much more appealing than a polite lift home in a family van.
To sum it up, if you had the choice between James Dean and Jim Carrey, who would you date ?
Do you think I'm making it up ? Being caricatural ? Some of my female friends have been married with absolute jerks for years. Some were even beaten up. They recon they knew for the start the guy was somehow twisted. But it's what made him so appealing, so irresistible. And at the same time, some of my male friends have just been told by some girls "you're sweet, I like you very much, but you're just way too nice for me to date you", "you're too nice, I don't want to mess with you" or similar.
Some time ago, women were indeed dreaming for marriage and men for one night stands. But after decades of male bastardies, some female have also decided to fight back, and changed their mind. Many girls don't want to get trapped in a relationship. They use men and dispose them as tissues. They run several horses at the same time to make sure that the next one is ready to be picked up before they dump the previous one. The romantic ones get rejected. The serial lovers take their chance. For all that, when bastards get better rewarded than decent blokes, many of the later are tempted to join the "dark side of the force". To idealistic me, the good ones always win in the end, so I wouldn't recommend anyone to play that game. But I can understand that despair pushes some on the bad side.
Hobbes, May 29, 2007 @ 14:20
To sum it up, if you had the choice between James Dean and Jim Carrey, who would you date ?
Do you think I'm making it up ? Being caricatural ? Some of my female friends have been married with absolute jerks for years. Some were even beaten up. They recon they knew for the start the guy was somehow twisted. But it's what made him so appealing, so irresistible. And at the same time, some of my male friends have just been told by some girls "you're sweet, I like you very much, but you're just way too nice for me to date you", "you're too nice, I don't want to mess with you" or similar.
Some time ago, women were indeed dreaming for marriage and men for one night stands. But after decades of male bastardies, some female have also decided to fight back, and changed their mind. Many girls don't want to get trapped in a relationship. They use men and dispose them as tissues. They run several horses at the same time to make sure that the next one is ready to be picked up before they dump the previous one. The romantic ones get rejected. The serial lovers take their chance. For all that, when bastards get better rewarded than decent blokes, many of the later are tempted to join the "dark side of the force". To idealistic me, the good ones always win in the end, so I wouldn't recommend anyone to play that game. But I can understand that despair pushes some on the bad side.
Hobbes, May 29, 2007 @ 14:20
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May 29, 2007 @ 14:44
hum... depends on what you call "playing games" or "working" I guess.
From my point of view, I noticed that girls active on the boys gaming field and with hidden agendas as events and friends network selection tools tended to get more official boyfriends per year than more quiet or genuine ones. But more isn't necesarilly better, I agree. And what may appear as "working" from the outside might feel like "loosing" from the inside. All depends of one's goal in life I guess.
From my point of view, I noticed that girls active on the boys gaming field and with hidden agendas as events and friends network selection tools tended to get more official boyfriends per year than more quiet or genuine ones. But more isn't necesarilly better, I agree. And what may appear as "working" from the outside might feel like "loosing" from the inside. All depends of one's goal in life I guess.
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hum... depends on what you call "playing games" or "working" I guess.
From my point of view, I noticed that girls active on the boys gaming field and with hidden agendas as events and friends network selection tools tended to get more official boyfriends per year than more quiet or genuine ones. But more isn't necesarilly better, I agree. And what may appear as "working" from the outside might feel like "loosing" from the inside. All depends of one's goal in life I guess.
Hobbes, May 29, 2007 @ 14:44
From my point of view, I noticed that girls active on the boys gaming field and with hidden agendas as events and friends network selection tools tended to get more official boyfriends per year than more quiet or genuine ones. But more isn't necesarilly better, I agree. And what may appear as "working" from the outside might feel like "loosing" from the inside. All depends of one's goal in life I guess.
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May 29, 2007 @ 16:57
You both look like thinking that women are there to be "caught".
This kind of game works perfectly fine with women who wants to play it (and play it in a parallel, very similar way), women who actually -whether they admit it or not- are on for "being caught" and enjoy a one night stand or whatever may arise from that.
With a similar attitude to the player's, they are usually the ones who chose "the bastard" before he even notices.
Those women want fun without ties, exactly as "the Bastard", and often won't be interested in an attentionate gentleman, showing himself as wedding material, who would be too much of a hassle to get rid of, later.
I honestly respect both choices and I'm honoured with the confidence of people (women and men) of both groups: players and romantic wedding material.
Me thinks you only have to be aware of where did you choose to stand and what are the rules on the game you chose to play in.
Anyway, if you think about flirting in terms of winners and losers, you are a silly loser and you can only be played around without even noticing (not to mention that if you consider the other person just a prey to hunt, you are missing the best of it, whether it is a one night stand or anything else).
This kind of game works perfectly fine with women who wants to play it (and play it in a parallel, very similar way), women who actually -whether they admit it or not- are on for "being caught" and enjoy a one night stand or whatever may arise from that.
With a similar attitude to the player's, they are usually the ones who chose "the bastard" before he even notices.
Those women want fun without ties, exactly as "the Bastard", and often won't be interested in an attentionate gentleman, showing himself as wedding material, who would be too much of a hassle to get rid of, later.
I honestly respect both choices and I'm honoured with the confidence of people (women and men) of both groups: players and romantic wedding material.
Me thinks you only have to be aware of where did you choose to stand and what are the rules on the game you chose to play in.
Anyway, if you think about flirting in terms of winners and losers, you are a silly loser and you can only be played around without even noticing (not to mention that if you consider the other person just a prey to hunt, you are missing the best of it, whether it is a one night stand or anything else).
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You both look like thinking that women are there to be "caught".
This kind of game works perfectly fine with women who wants to play it (and play it in a parallel, very similar way), women who actually -whether they admit it or not- are on for "being caught" and enjoy a one night stand or whatever may arise from that.
With a similar attitude to the player's, they are usually the ones who chose "the bastard" before he even notices.
Those women want fun without ties, exactly as "the Bastard", and often won't be interested in an attentionate gentleman, showing himself as wedding material, who would be too much of a hassle to get rid of, later.
I honestly respect both choices and I'm honoured with the confidence of people (women and men) of both groups: players and romantic wedding material.
Me thinks you only have to be aware of where did you choose to stand and what are the rules on the game you chose to play in.
Anyway, if you think about flirting in terms of winners and losers, you are a silly loser and you can only be played around without even noticing (not to mention that if you consider the other person just a prey to hunt, you are missing the best of it, whether it is a one night stand or anything else).
Stef__Granny, May 29, 2007 @ 16:57
This kind of game works perfectly fine with women who wants to play it (and play it in a parallel, very similar way), women who actually -whether they admit it or not- are on for "being caught" and enjoy a one night stand or whatever may arise from that.
With a similar attitude to the player's, they are usually the ones who chose "the bastard" before he even notices.
Those women want fun without ties, exactly as "the Bastard", and often won't be interested in an attentionate gentleman, showing himself as wedding material, who would be too much of a hassle to get rid of, later.
I honestly respect both choices and I'm honoured with the confidence of people (women and men) of both groups: players and romantic wedding material.
Me thinks you only have to be aware of where did you choose to stand and what are the rules on the game you chose to play in.
Anyway, if you think about flirting in terms of winners and losers, you are a silly loser and you can only be played around without even noticing (not to mention that if you consider the other person just a prey to hunt, you are missing the best of it, whether it is a one night stand or anything else).
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May 29, 2007 @ 17:18
Some good points all round. I remember asking a female friend when I could meet the new man in her life and she told me "when he is ready". By which she actually meant when she has finished trying to transform the troglodyte into someone that stood any chance of gaining approval from her friends. Some girls do appear to have a thing for bad boys but it often seems to come back to haunt them. After they realise the bad boy is in fact a charity case with all the charm and social graces of a bog brush. Any efforts to mother him or change him are a complete waste of time and then the penny drops.
Trouble is it is often too late. Reputations take years to build but seconds to destroy, and eligible decent guys are unlikely to be interested in a girl who has been with every loser gigolo in town.
Trouble is it is often too late. Reputations take years to build but seconds to destroy, and eligible decent guys are unlikely to be interested in a girl who has been with every loser gigolo in town.
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Some good points all round. I remember asking a female friend when I could meet the new man in her life and she told me "when he is ready". By which she actually meant when she has finished trying to transform the troglodyte into someone that stood any chance of gaining approval from her friends. Some girls do appear to have a thing for bad boys but it often seems to come back to haunt them. After they realise the bad boy is in fact a charity case with all the charm and social graces of a bog brush. Any efforts to mother him or change him are a complete waste of time and then the penny drops.
Trouble is it is often too late. Reputations take years to build but seconds to destroy, and eligible decent guys are unlikely to be interested in a girl who has been with every loser gigolo in town.
phil, May 29, 2007 @ 17:18
Trouble is it is often too late. Reputations take years to build but seconds to destroy, and eligible decent guys are unlikely to be interested in a girl who has been with every loser gigolo in town.
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May 29, 2007 @ 17:48
let's say it has a better short term effect ... but I am not sure on the ROI ... long term :)
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let's say it has a better short term effect ... but I am not sure on the ROI ... long term :)
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May 29, 2007 @ 18:11
Grany, please write that so long awaited "Everything you always wanted to know about life that Grany will explain bible" for us !
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Grany, please write that so long awaited "Everything you always wanted to know about life that Grany will explain bible" for us !
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May 29, 2007 @ 18:20
My own view is that neither women, nor men for that matter, are there to be "caught" as such by the opposite gender. When it comes to dating, each person may have their own principles or standards which they are free to set as high or as low as they wish. Perhaps I am old-fashioned, but based only on the early content of my original posting, I was just trying to establish the extent to which morals still feature when it comes to flirting and dating.
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My own view is that neither women, nor men for that matter, are there to be "caught" as such by the opposite gender. When it comes to dating, each person may have their own principles or standards which they are free to set as high or as low as they wish. Perhaps I am old-fashioned, but based only on the early content of my original posting, I was just trying to establish the extent to which morals still feature when it comes to flirting and dating.
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May 29, 2007 @ 18:22
The postings make for excellent reading and looking forward to reading that bible too. Best wishes, Phil
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The postings make for excellent reading and looking forward to reading that bible too. Best wishes, Phil
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May 29, 2007 @ 19:03
Win is probabily not the right term. I don't know how to better say it. I know people that want to be wanted. Their ego is probabily too big for their own good, and they can't understand how anyone could NOT be interested in them. So ... they are not really interested in the other person, they just can't stand to see their ego hurt.
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Win is probabily not the right term. I don't know how to better say it. I know people that want to be wanted. Their ego is probabily too big for their own good, and they can't understand how anyone could NOT be interested in them. So ... they are not really interested in the other person, they just can't stand to see their ego hurt.
Val
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May 29, 2007 @ 19:28
I can understand both sides of the issue as Stef_Granny mentioned, those who wish to play and those only looking for something more substantial. Can also understand about those who want to be wanted, and also those who are plain unavailable. As well as bad boy syndrome and all the other points raised.
There are lines of thought (not mine) which say that "all the good ones are taken" and "one cannot resist what they can't have". Not sure to what extent I agree or disagree with either thought. Begins to get towards the realm of that film called "Cruel Intentions"....or was that a documentary!?!?
There are lines of thought (not mine) which say that "all the good ones are taken" and "one cannot resist what they can't have". Not sure to what extent I agree or disagree with either thought. Begins to get towards the realm of that film called "Cruel Intentions"....or was that a documentary!?!?
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I can understand both sides of the issue as Stef_Granny mentioned, those who wish to play and those only looking for something more substantial. Can also understand about those who want to be wanted, and also those who are plain unavailable. As well as bad boy syndrome and all the other points raised.
There are lines of thought (not mine) which say that "all the good ones are taken" and "one cannot resist what they can't have". Not sure to what extent I agree or disagree with either thought. Begins to get towards the realm of that film called "Cruel Intentions"....or was that a documentary!?!?
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There are lines of thought (not mine) which say that "all the good ones are taken" and "one cannot resist what they can't have". Not sure to what extent I agree or disagree with either thought. Begins to get towards the realm of that film called "Cruel Intentions"....or was that a documentary!?!?
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May 29, 2007 @ 21:06
... I'm so afraid somebody would rewrite it totally misrepresenting my thoughts, than claim it was my word and start a religion on it.
Given the precedents, I'm terrorised at the image I would have. :-(
Given the precedents, I'm terrorised at the image I would have. :-(
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... I'm so afraid somebody would rewrite it totally misrepresenting my thoughts, than claim it was my word and start a religion on it.
Given the precedents, I'm terrorised at the image I would have. :-(
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Given the precedents, I'm terrorised at the image I would have. :-(
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May 29, 2007 @ 22:14
remember those good ole times? life in the black & white tubes (tv) seemed so simple, so idylic... can we ever go back to those days? not the cave days mind you...
i personally prefer men in pants with a touch of plants in their homes. ;P
i personally prefer men in pants with a touch of plants in their homes. ;P
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remember those good ole times? life in the black & white tubes (tv) seemed so simple, so idylic... can we ever go back to those days? not the cave days mind you...
i personally prefer men in pants with a touch of plants in their homes. ;P
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i personally prefer men in pants with a touch of plants in their homes. ;P
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May 30, 2007 @ 13:13
can I count you as a volunteer among my personal evangelists? ;-)
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can I count you as a volunteer among my personal evangelists? ;-)
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May 30, 2007 @ 13:40
Quote of the day:
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Calvin:
What's it like to fall in love?
Hobbes:
Well... say the object of your affection walks by...
Calvin:
Yeah?
Hobbes:
First, your heart falls into your stomach and splashes your innards. All the moisture makes you sweat profusely. This condensation shorts the circuits to your brain and you get all woozy. When your brain burns out altogether, your mouth disengages and you babble like a cretin until she leaves.
Calvin:
THAT'S LOVE?!?
Hobbes:
Medically speaking.
Calvin:
Heck, that happened to me once, but I figured it was cooties!!
Hypothesys of the day:
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Maybe men "play the bastard game" and stay away from the one girl they desire because they're just too shy to speak to her. And maybe it's for their own good. Ever noticed how ridiculous one / some can turn when THE woman joins the group ? The funny become pathetic, the clever turn dumb, the shy look like beginner salesmen, the outgoing suddenly shut up. No wonder couples don't last, we boys look the opposite as we are whenever SHE is around.
Want my advice ? Girls are more emotionally clever than we are. If she likes you, she'll eventually come to talk to you. Let her do the first step and save you all the shame of playing games or trying and failing ;-P
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Calvin:
What's it like to fall in love?
Hobbes:
Well... say the object of your affection walks by...
Calvin:
Yeah?
Hobbes:
First, your heart falls into your stomach and splashes your innards. All the moisture makes you sweat profusely. This condensation shorts the circuits to your brain and you get all woozy. When your brain burns out altogether, your mouth disengages and you babble like a cretin until she leaves.
Calvin:
THAT'S LOVE?!?
Hobbes:
Medically speaking.
Calvin:
Heck, that happened to me once, but I figured it was cooties!!
Hypothesys of the day:
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Maybe men "play the bastard game" and stay away from the one girl they desire because they're just too shy to speak to her. And maybe it's for their own good. Ever noticed how ridiculous one / some can turn when THE woman joins the group ? The funny become pathetic, the clever turn dumb, the shy look like beginner salesmen, the outgoing suddenly shut up. No wonder couples don't last, we boys look the opposite as we are whenever SHE is around.
Want my advice ? Girls are more emotionally clever than we are. If she likes you, she'll eventually come to talk to you. Let her do the first step and save you all the shame of playing games or trying and failing ;-P
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Quote of the day:
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Calvin:
What's it like to fall in love?
Hobbes:
Well... say the object of your affection walks by...
Calvin:
Yeah?
Hobbes:
First, your heart falls into your stomach and splashes your innards. All the moisture makes you sweat profusely. This condensation shorts the circuits to your brain and you get all woozy. When your brain burns out altogether, your mouth disengages and you babble like a cretin until she leaves.
Calvin:
THAT'S LOVE?!?
Hobbes:
Medically speaking.
Calvin:
Heck, that happened to me once, but I figured it was cooties!!
Hypothesys of the day:
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Maybe men "play the bastard game" and stay away from the one girl they desire because they're just too shy to speak to her. And maybe it's for their own good. Ever noticed how ridiculous one / some can turn when THE woman joins the group ? The funny become pathetic, the clever turn dumb, the shy look like beginner salesmen, the outgoing suddenly shut up. No wonder couples don't last, we boys look the opposite as we are whenever SHE is around.
Want my advice ? Girls are more emotionally clever than we are. If she likes you, she'll eventually come to talk to you. Let her do the first step and save you all the shame of playing games or trying and failing ;-P
Hobbes, May 30, 2007 @ 13:40
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Calvin:
What's it like to fall in love?
Hobbes:
Well... say the object of your affection walks by...
Calvin:
Yeah?
Hobbes:
First, your heart falls into your stomach and splashes your innards. All the moisture makes you sweat profusely. This condensation shorts the circuits to your brain and you get all woozy. When your brain burns out altogether, your mouth disengages and you babble like a cretin until she leaves.
Calvin:
THAT'S LOVE?!?
Hobbes:
Medically speaking.
Calvin:
Heck, that happened to me once, but I figured it was cooties!!
Hypothesys of the day:
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Maybe men "play the bastard game" and stay away from the one girl they desire because they're just too shy to speak to her. And maybe it's for their own good. Ever noticed how ridiculous one / some can turn when THE woman joins the group ? The funny become pathetic, the clever turn dumb, the shy look like beginner salesmen, the outgoing suddenly shut up. No wonder couples don't last, we boys look the opposite as we are whenever SHE is around.
Want my advice ? Girls are more emotionally clever than we are. If she likes you, she'll eventually come to talk to you. Let her do the first step and save you all the shame of playing games or trying and failing ;-P
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May 30, 2007 @ 17:05
"men runs companies, they sell themselves at work, they manage their professional life and sometimes their private life not SO bad ... and you girls still think that they are 'intimidated' by women?? Yeah, in some cases maybe, but trust me if a men is interested he'll find a way for you to notice him given the chance". That is not the issue. What sometimes is clashing is how much they are interested and in what.
Call me traditional, conservative or just lazy, but for few reasons I still beleive that as much as a woman can give more or less hidden hints to a man ... starting conversation, proposing drinks ... is up to the men to actually take a bigger step and actually DO something about it, and change the relationship. And as far as I know, if a women wants something more with someone .. tehre's no chance that the men won't get the hint.
Of course it all depends on the person :)
Ps. The same that Hobbes is stating can be applied to women ;) ... i've witnessed more then one NOT so SHY person going completely silent in front of someone she was interested into ..
Call me traditional, conservative or just lazy, but for few reasons I still beleive that as much as a woman can give more or less hidden hints to a man ... starting conversation, proposing drinks ... is up to the men to actually take a bigger step and actually DO something about it, and change the relationship. And as far as I know, if a women wants something more with someone .. tehre's no chance that the men won't get the hint.
Of course it all depends on the person :)
Ps. The same that Hobbes is stating can be applied to women ;) ... i've witnessed more then one NOT so SHY person going completely silent in front of someone she was interested into ..
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"men runs companies, they sell themselves at work, they manage their professional life and sometimes their private life not SO bad ... and you girls still think that they are 'intimidated' by women?? Yeah, in some cases maybe, but trust me if a men is interested he'll find a way for you to notice him given the chance". That is not the issue. What sometimes is clashing is how much they are interested and in what.
Call me traditional, conservative or just lazy, but for few reasons I still beleive that as much as a woman can give more or less hidden hints to a man ... starting conversation, proposing drinks ... is up to the men to actually take a bigger step and actually DO something about it, and change the relationship. And as far as I know, if a women wants something more with someone .. tehre's no chance that the men won't get the hint.
Of course it all depends on the person :)
Ps. The same that Hobbes is stating can be applied to women ;) ... i've witnessed more then one NOT so SHY person going completely silent in front of someone she was interested into ..
Hoiling, May 30, 2007 @ 17:05
Call me traditional, conservative or just lazy, but for few reasons I still beleive that as much as a woman can give more or less hidden hints to a man ... starting conversation, proposing drinks ... is up to the men to actually take a bigger step and actually DO something about it, and change the relationship. And as far as I know, if a women wants something more with someone .. tehre's no chance that the men won't get the hint.
Of course it all depends on the person :)
Ps. The same that Hobbes is stating can be applied to women ;) ... i've witnessed more then one NOT so SHY person going completely silent in front of someone she was interested into ..
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May 30, 2007 @ 17:26
Putting what you just said and what I wrote above together, chances are high that two people that find each other very attractive won't do the first move and desperatly wait for the other one to do it. Until a less interested but (/hence?) more proactive person comes to "steal" that person from him/her, or eventually end up together 10 years later as Harry and Sally.
For all that, I've got a really stupidly innoncent question. Why are we all so ashamed of the feelings we might have for someone else ? Ok, being rejected is never a nice experience. But isn't it better to get a clear "I like you, you're a nice person, but you're not my type", "sorry, I don't feel ready yet" or "we're not looking for the same thing" than spending nights and days wondering what meaning the other one slightest behaviors might have ? Or is the state of excitment a phone ring can bring in those moments what we're looking for ?
For all that, I've got a really stupidly innoncent question. Why are we all so ashamed of the feelings we might have for someone else ? Ok, being rejected is never a nice experience. But isn't it better to get a clear "I like you, you're a nice person, but you're not my type", "sorry, I don't feel ready yet" or "we're not looking for the same thing" than spending nights and days wondering what meaning the other one slightest behaviors might have ? Or is the state of excitment a phone ring can bring in those moments what we're looking for ?
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Putting what you just said and what I wrote above together, chances are high that two people that find each other very attractive won't do the first move and desperatly wait for the other one to do it. Until a less interested but (/hence?) more proactive person comes to "steal" that person from him/her, or eventually end up together 10 years later as Harry and Sally.
For all that, I've got a really stupidly innoncent question. Why are we all so ashamed of the feelings we might have for someone else ? Ok, being rejected is never a nice experience. But isn't it better to get a clear "I like you, you're a nice person, but you're not my type", "sorry, I don't feel ready yet" or "we're not looking for the same thing" than spending nights and days wondering what meaning the other one slightest behaviors might have ? Or is the state of excitment a phone ring can bring in those moments what we're looking for ?
Hobbes, May 30, 2007 @ 17:26
For all that, I've got a really stupidly innoncent question. Why are we all so ashamed of the feelings we might have for someone else ? Ok, being rejected is never a nice experience. But isn't it better to get a clear "I like you, you're a nice person, but you're not my type", "sorry, I don't feel ready yet" or "we're not looking for the same thing" than spending nights and days wondering what meaning the other one slightest behaviors might have ? Or is the state of excitment a phone ring can bring in those moments what we're looking for ?
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May 30, 2007 @ 17:53
Again sounding traditional maybe ... but courtship/flirting having the phone ring excitment .. helps to get what I beleive is technically called 'the butterflies'.
And then there are cultural factors that even thou I would love to get rid of .. are still there .. at least in some cases.
Now take whatever I am going to write with a pinch of salt, not my personal opinion or beleif ... but just as stereotypes that i saw being true .. at least some times:
Men love the chase - I don't wanna generalize,and yeah I am from a southern coutry but .. I've seen even men from other background being 'putt off' by a girl being too direct (as in: I like you bla bla). Some men still like to chase, to be the active part, to feeling that they are 'charming' the lady ... and also would probabily thnk that the lady is a tad too easy if she's straightforward. Sexist? yeah. Natural, maybe.
Not everyone is open and honest today. So even if a Men (or a Woman) will come and say that he really likes the girl and is interested in getting to know her better etc etce tc ... if the lady is interested in something more serious ... she'll probabily go out on at least a couple of dates before anything too close will happen, just to make sure that the man in question is not just a sweettalker. Stereotype? yeah. Fair? Maybe not.
Rejection is not nice for anyone, that's why i personally think that going with the flow, being open and not playing games is the best way ... but sometimes being too open can backfire :S. Not fair, but happens.
That's and many others are the reasons why people are not too direct to each other. And sometimes it's nice, the early times of a relationship, the flirting and courtship ... is what gives you the butterflies.
Vale - and after this sugar coated post my cynical self will drawn herslef in the bath tub.
And then there are cultural factors that even thou I would love to get rid of .. are still there .. at least in some cases.
Now take whatever I am going to write with a pinch of salt, not my personal opinion or beleif ... but just as stereotypes that i saw being true .. at least some times:
Men love the chase - I don't wanna generalize,and yeah I am from a southern coutry but .. I've seen even men from other background being 'putt off' by a girl being too direct (as in: I like you bla bla). Some men still like to chase, to be the active part, to feeling that they are 'charming' the lady ... and also would probabily thnk that the lady is a tad too easy if she's straightforward. Sexist? yeah. Natural, maybe.
Not everyone is open and honest today. So even if a Men (or a Woman) will come and say that he really likes the girl and is interested in getting to know her better etc etce tc ... if the lady is interested in something more serious ... she'll probabily go out on at least a couple of dates before anything too close will happen, just to make sure that the man in question is not just a sweettalker. Stereotype? yeah. Fair? Maybe not.
Rejection is not nice for anyone, that's why i personally think that going with the flow, being open and not playing games is the best way ... but sometimes being too open can backfire :S. Not fair, but happens.
That's and many others are the reasons why people are not too direct to each other. And sometimes it's nice, the early times of a relationship, the flirting and courtship ... is what gives you the butterflies.
Vale - and after this sugar coated post my cynical self will drawn herslef in the bath tub.
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Again sounding traditional maybe ... but courtship/flirting having the phone ring excitment .. helps to get what I beleive is technically called 'the butterflies'.
And then there are cultural factors that even thou I would love to get rid of .. are still there .. at least in some cases.
Now take whatever I am going to write with a pinch of salt, not my personal opinion or beleif ... but just as stereotypes that i saw being true .. at least some times:
Men love the chase - I don't wanna generalize,and yeah I am from a southern coutry but .. I've seen even men from other background being 'putt off' by a girl being too direct (as in: I like you bla bla). Some men still like to chase, to be the active part, to feeling that they are 'charming' the lady ... and also would probabily thnk that the lady is a tad too easy if she's straightforward. Sexist? yeah. Natural, maybe.
Not everyone is open and honest today. So even if a Men (or a Woman) will come and say that he really likes the girl and is interested in getting to know her better etc etce tc ... if the lady is interested in something more serious ... she'll probabily go out on at least a couple of dates before anything too close will happen, just to make sure that the man in question is not just a sweettalker. Stereotype? yeah. Fair? Maybe not.
Rejection is not nice for anyone, that's why i personally think that going with the flow, being open and not playing games is the best way ... but sometimes being too open can backfire :S. Not fair, but happens.
That's and many others are the reasons why people are not too direct to each other. And sometimes it's nice, the early times of a relationship, the flirting and courtship ... is what gives you the butterflies.
Vale - and after this sugar coated post my cynical self will drawn herslef in the bath tub.
Hoiling, May 30, 2007 @ 17:53
And then there are cultural factors that even thou I would love to get rid of .. are still there .. at least in some cases.
Now take whatever I am going to write with a pinch of salt, not my personal opinion or beleif ... but just as stereotypes that i saw being true .. at least some times:
Men love the chase - I don't wanna generalize,and yeah I am from a southern coutry but .. I've seen even men from other background being 'putt off' by a girl being too direct (as in: I like you bla bla). Some men still like to chase, to be the active part, to feeling that they are 'charming' the lady ... and also would probabily thnk that the lady is a tad too easy if she's straightforward. Sexist? yeah. Natural, maybe.
Not everyone is open and honest today. So even if a Men (or a Woman) will come and say that he really likes the girl and is interested in getting to know her better etc etce tc ... if the lady is interested in something more serious ... she'll probabily go out on at least a couple of dates before anything too close will happen, just to make sure that the man in question is not just a sweettalker. Stereotype? yeah. Fair? Maybe not.
Rejection is not nice for anyone, that's why i personally think that going with the flow, being open and not playing games is the best way ... but sometimes being too open can backfire :S. Not fair, but happens.
That's and many others are the reasons why people are not too direct to each other. And sometimes it's nice, the early times of a relationship, the flirting and courtship ... is what gives you the butterflies.
Vale - and after this sugar coated post my cynical self will drawn herslef in the bath tub.
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May 31, 2007 @ 13:36
Just found out a few minutes ago (and it's my MSN title of the day):
"La sincerite, c'est la base meme de l'amour ; sans elle, il n'y a pas d'amour possible."
Marc-Andr? Poissant
"Sincerity is the basement of love. Without sincerity, no love is possible"
"La sincerite, c'est la base meme de l'amour ; sans elle, il n'y a pas d'amour possible."
Marc-Andr? Poissant
"Sincerity is the basement of love. Without sincerity, no love is possible"
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Just found out a few minutes ago (and it's my MSN title of the day):
"La sincerite, c'est la base meme de l'amour ; sans elle, il n'y a pas d'amour possible."
Marc-Andr? Poissant
"Sincerity is the basement of love. Without sincerity, no love is possible"
Hobbes, May 31, 2007 @ 13:36
"La sincerite, c'est la base meme de l'amour ; sans elle, il n'y a pas d'amour possible."
Marc-Andr? Poissant
"Sincerity is the basement of love. Without sincerity, no love is possible"
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 01:12
...but if they did, it's crazy!
The guy went throgh so much indirect effort to get the girl in a sleazy way. It would have taken him a fraction of the effort to go the direct way and just talk to her...
Phil mate - your recent posts inspire lots of discussion, that's great!
The guy went throgh so much indirect effort to get the girl in a sleazy way. It would have taken him a fraction of the effort to go the direct way and just talk to her...
Phil mate - your recent posts inspire lots of discussion, that's great!
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...but if they did, it's crazy!
The guy went throgh so much indirect effort to get the girl in a sleazy way. It would have taken him a fraction of the effort to go the direct way and just talk to her...
Phil mate - your recent posts inspire lots of discussion, that's great!
Nir Ofek, Jun 1, 2007 @ 01:12
The guy went throgh so much indirect effort to get the girl in a sleazy way. It would have taken him a fraction of the effort to go the direct way and just talk to her...
Phil mate - your recent posts inspire lots of discussion, that's great!
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 02:24
Will keep an eye on the forums for your next instalment! Best wishes, Phil
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Will keep an eye on the forums for your next instalment! Best wishes, Phil
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 11:36
not often in Geneva, but we celebrated his bday while celebrating the year 2006 :) (first GOL new year party!! YAY!) and .. he was so kind to organize a trip to verbier last winter ... when he thought me to ski !!( double YAY!!) and ... i am sure many other activities. Recently he has been spotted at a party at Shakers (Don't recall which one thou).
Miss ya in Geneva Phil!!
Miss ya in Geneva Phil!!
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not often in Geneva, but we celebrated his bday while celebrating the year 2006 :) (first GOL new year party!! YAY!) and .. he was so kind to organize a trip to verbier last winter ... when he thought me to ski !!( double YAY!!) and ... i am sure many other activities. Recently he has been spotted at a party at Shakers (Don't recall which one thou).
Miss ya in Geneva Phil!!
Hoiling, Jun 1, 2007 @ 11:36
Miss ya in Geneva Phil!!
Hoiling, Jun 1, 2007 @ 11:36
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 12:43
...I've been told it's the best way to get to know him ;-)
Actually, you must have seen him last time we were at Shakers, as he came for Kitkate's Bday.
Actually, you must have seen him last time we were at Shakers, as he came for Kitkate's Bday.
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...I've been told it's the best way to get to know him ;-)
Actually, you must have seen him last time we were at Shakers, as he came for Kitkate's Bday.
Hobbes, Jun 1, 2007 @ 12:43
Actually, you must have seen him last time we were at Shakers, as he came for Kitkate's Bday.
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 13:05
Was chatting with a (bit desperate) single male friend of mine yesterday. Speaking about the "impossible perfect woman", etc. One thing we pointed out was the amazingly wide spectrum of peoples expectations today. Some girls (I'll consider here girls only, as we were talking about them, but same applies to men) are open to have sex with several partners in a club's toilets the same night, while others are committed not to have sex before marriage and only to get pregnant. Between those two extremes, the whole panel is there. But maybe too few people clearly know for themselves and let know to others what they're up to / looking for in general, that night, or with that specific person. How could men guess what type of woman they are facing? After a deceiving date, that friend got that advice from 50% of his friends "you should have tried to kiss her, she was waiting for you to do the move", and that one "she's not interested, or needs some more time, take it easy" by the other 50%. How could he know then?
We were kidding about having a tag system, where people would carry numbers telling what they're looking for:
9 = one night stands
7 = short term relationships
5 = long term relationship
3 = marriage
1 = family
Sounds silly ? Sure does... but what of we stepped just one foot closer to that ? Wouldn’t it save us all lots of troubles ? But maybe our society is just too hypocrite and macho for that. Boys who get lots of women are proud seductors, while female having lots of partners fear to be called bitches.
Reminds me a song from my favorite teenager years songwriter:
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JJ Goldman – les filles faciles
J'ai une tendresse particuli?re
Pour ces filles qui n'ont pas d'mani?res
Les hospitali?res, les dociles
Vous les appelez les filles faciles
Celles qui marchandent pas leur corps
Ni pour des mots ni pour de l'or
Pour qui faut pas tout un d?bat
Ni pour leur haut ni pour leur bas
Pour quelques notes de guitare
Elles dormiront un peu plus tard
Elles disent que les matins c'est bien
Elles disent qu'? deux, c'est encore mieux
Les inesp?r?es, les timides
Celles qui comprennent sans qu'on leur dise
Pour qui ne suffit qu'un regard
Pour que tout s'allume en un soir
Petite chanson d'reconnaissance
Pour ces stars d'mon adolescence
Je n'en ai oublie aucune
Cheres et precieuses une a une
Celles qui m'ont trouve consommable
Avant que j'sois dans les hit-parades
Dans les bals ou les MJC
Comme au plus haut des colisees
Celles qui n'echangent pas leur plaisir
Pour ce qu'on pense ou c'qu'on va dire
Qui disent OK pour les enfers
Contre un peu d'paradis sur terre
Des p'tits moments piques en fraude
Comme un automne aux pays chauds
Plein du gout des baisers voles
Toujours un p'tit peu plus sucre
Sans qu'on en parle ou qu'on y pense
Sans apres promis ni jure
?a n'a pas la moindre importance
Quand c'est l'amour qu'on aime aimer
Ce soir, je veux leur rendre hommage
Ce sera la seconde fois
Qu'elles sachent qu'il m'est dommage
De ne le faire que par la voix
We were kidding about having a tag system, where people would carry numbers telling what they're looking for:
9 = one night stands
7 = short term relationships
5 = long term relationship
3 = marriage
1 = family
Sounds silly ? Sure does... but what of we stepped just one foot closer to that ? Wouldn’t it save us all lots of troubles ? But maybe our society is just too hypocrite and macho for that. Boys who get lots of women are proud seductors, while female having lots of partners fear to be called bitches.
Reminds me a song from my favorite teenager years songwriter:
---------------------------------------------
JJ Goldman – les filles faciles
J'ai une tendresse particuli?re
Pour ces filles qui n'ont pas d'mani?res
Les hospitali?res, les dociles
Vous les appelez les filles faciles
Celles qui marchandent pas leur corps
Ni pour des mots ni pour de l'or
Pour qui faut pas tout un d?bat
Ni pour leur haut ni pour leur bas
Pour quelques notes de guitare
Elles dormiront un peu plus tard
Elles disent que les matins c'est bien
Elles disent qu'? deux, c'est encore mieux
Les inesp?r?es, les timides
Celles qui comprennent sans qu'on leur dise
Pour qui ne suffit qu'un regard
Pour que tout s'allume en un soir
Petite chanson d'reconnaissance
Pour ces stars d'mon adolescence
Je n'en ai oublie aucune
Cheres et precieuses une a une
Celles qui m'ont trouve consommable
Avant que j'sois dans les hit-parades
Dans les bals ou les MJC
Comme au plus haut des colisees
Celles qui n'echangent pas leur plaisir
Pour ce qu'on pense ou c'qu'on va dire
Qui disent OK pour les enfers
Contre un peu d'paradis sur terre
Des p'tits moments piques en fraude
Comme un automne aux pays chauds
Plein du gout des baisers voles
Toujours un p'tit peu plus sucre
Sans qu'on en parle ou qu'on y pense
Sans apres promis ni jure
?a n'a pas la moindre importance
Quand c'est l'amour qu'on aime aimer
Ce soir, je veux leur rendre hommage
Ce sera la seconde fois
Qu'elles sachent qu'il m'est dommage
De ne le faire que par la voix
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Was chatting with a (bit desperate) single male friend of mine yesterday. Speaking about the "impossible perfect woman", etc. One thing we pointed out was the amazingly wide spectrum of peoples expectations today. Some girls (I'll consider here girls only, as we were talking about them, but same applies to men) are open to have sex with several partners in a club's toilets the same night, while others are committed not to have sex before marriage and only to get pregnant. Between those two extremes, the whole panel is there. But maybe too few people clearly know for themselves and let know to others what they're up to / looking for in general, that night, or with that specific person. How could men guess what type of woman they are facing? After a deceiving date, that friend got that advice from 50% of his friends "you should have tried to kiss her, she was waiting for you to do the move", and that one "she's not interested, or needs some more time, take it easy" by the other 50%. How could he know then?
We were kidding about having a tag system, where people would carry numbers telling what they're looking for:
9 = one night stands
7 = short term relationships
5 = long term relationship
3 = marriage
1 = family
Sounds silly ? Sure does... but what of we stepped just one foot closer to that ? Wouldn’t it save us all lots of troubles ? But maybe our society is just too hypocrite and macho for that. Boys who get lots of women are proud seductors, while female having lots of partners fear to be called bitches.
Reminds me a song from my favorite teenager years songwriter:
---------------------------------------------
JJ Goldman – les filles faciles
J'ai une tendresse particuli?re
Pour ces filles qui n'ont pas d'mani?res
Les hospitali?res, les dociles
Vous les appelez les filles faciles
Celles qui marchandent pas leur corps
Ni pour des mots ni pour de l'or
Pour qui faut pas tout un d?bat
Ni pour leur haut ni pour leur bas
Pour quelques notes de guitare
Elles dormiront un peu plus tard
Elles disent que les matins c'est bien
Elles disent qu'? deux, c'est encore mieux
Les inesp?r?es, les timides
Celles qui comprennent sans qu'on leur dise
Pour qui ne suffit qu'un regard
Pour que tout s'allume en un soir
Petite chanson d'reconnaissance
Pour ces stars d'mon adolescence
Je n'en ai oublie aucune
Cheres et precieuses une a une
Celles qui m'ont trouve consommable
Avant que j'sois dans les hit-parades
Dans les bals ou les MJC
Comme au plus haut des colisees
Celles qui n'echangent pas leur plaisir
Pour ce qu'on pense ou c'qu'on va dire
Qui disent OK pour les enfers
Contre un peu d'paradis sur terre
Des p'tits moments piques en fraude
Comme un automne aux pays chauds
Plein du gout des baisers voles
Toujours un p'tit peu plus sucre
Sans qu'on en parle ou qu'on y pense
Sans apres promis ni jure
?a n'a pas la moindre importance
Quand c'est l'amour qu'on aime aimer
Ce soir, je veux leur rendre hommage
Ce sera la seconde fois
Qu'elles sachent qu'il m'est dommage
De ne le faire que par la voix
Hobbes, Jun 1, 2007 @ 13:05
We were kidding about having a tag system, where people would carry numbers telling what they're looking for:
9 = one night stands
7 = short term relationships
5 = long term relationship
3 = marriage
1 = family
Sounds silly ? Sure does... but what of we stepped just one foot closer to that ? Wouldn’t it save us all lots of troubles ? But maybe our society is just too hypocrite and macho for that. Boys who get lots of women are proud seductors, while female having lots of partners fear to be called bitches.
Reminds me a song from my favorite teenager years songwriter:
---------------------------------------------
JJ Goldman – les filles faciles
J'ai une tendresse particuli?re
Pour ces filles qui n'ont pas d'mani?res
Les hospitali?res, les dociles
Vous les appelez les filles faciles
Celles qui marchandent pas leur corps
Ni pour des mots ni pour de l'or
Pour qui faut pas tout un d?bat
Ni pour leur haut ni pour leur bas
Pour quelques notes de guitare
Elles dormiront un peu plus tard
Elles disent que les matins c'est bien
Elles disent qu'? deux, c'est encore mieux
Les inesp?r?es, les timides
Celles qui comprennent sans qu'on leur dise
Pour qui ne suffit qu'un regard
Pour que tout s'allume en un soir
Petite chanson d'reconnaissance
Pour ces stars d'mon adolescence
Je n'en ai oublie aucune
Cheres et precieuses une a une
Celles qui m'ont trouve consommable
Avant que j'sois dans les hit-parades
Dans les bals ou les MJC
Comme au plus haut des colisees
Celles qui n'echangent pas leur plaisir
Pour ce qu'on pense ou c'qu'on va dire
Qui disent OK pour les enfers
Contre un peu d'paradis sur terre
Des p'tits moments piques en fraude
Comme un automne aux pays chauds
Plein du gout des baisers voles
Toujours un p'tit peu plus sucre
Sans qu'on en parle ou qu'on y pense
Sans apres promis ni jure
?a n'a pas la moindre importance
Quand c'est l'amour qu'on aime aimer
Ce soir, je veux leur rendre hommage
Ce sera la seconde fois
Qu'elles sachent qu'il m'est dommage
De ne le faire que par la voix
Hobbes, Jun 1, 2007 @ 13:05
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 13:46
would make life so easy, and avoid so many bad mistakes people make!
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 13:51
What if you are looking for a relationship but then after few dates realize that the other one is .. not the right one for a relationship and want to keep it casual?
And what if you think you want something 'lite' and then change your mind and want his/her babies ? :P
Just teasing ... btw THAT specific tagging system makes me think of a specific "Friends" episode .. when they talk about the right number sequence .. 7 - 9 -3 -7 ...
Val :)
And what if you think you want something 'lite' and then change your mind and want his/her babies ? :P
Just teasing ... btw THAT specific tagging system makes me think of a specific "Friends" episode .. when they talk about the right number sequence .. 7 - 9 -3 -7 ...
Val :)
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What if you are looking for a relationship but then after few dates realize that the other one is .. not the right one for a relationship and want to keep it casual?
And what if you think you want something 'lite' and then change your mind and want his/her babies ? :P
Just teasing ... btw THAT specific tagging system makes me think of a specific "Friends" episode .. when they talk about the right number sequence .. 7 - 9 -3 -7 ...
Val :)
Hoiling, Jun 1, 2007 @ 13:51
And what if you think you want something 'lite' and then change your mind and want his/her babies ? :P
Just teasing ... btw THAT specific tagging system makes me think of a specific "Friends" episode .. when they talk about the right number sequence .. 7 - 9 -3 -7 ...
Val :)
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 13:54
His a Zurich guy tho, so we see him in Geneva on special occasions only.
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His a Zurich guy tho, so we see him in Geneva on special occasions only.
Nir Ofek, Jun 1, 2007 @ 13:54
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 14:05
for the tag system to work, it needs to allow people to show the truth of what they're looking for at that particular point in time. So flexibility needs to be designed into the system...
A guy (or a girl!) may be married, but one night they need a '9', so they put on their '9' sign and go out there...
A guy (or a girl!) may be married, but one night they need a '9', so they put on their '9' sign and go out there...
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for the tag system to work, it needs to allow people to show the truth of what they're looking for at that particular point in time. So flexibility needs to be designed into the system...
A guy (or a girl!) may be married, but one night they need a '9', so they put on their '9' sign and go out there...
Nir Ofek, Jun 1, 2007 @ 14:05
A guy (or a girl!) may be married, but one night they need a '9', so they put on their '9' sign and go out there...
Nir Ofek, Jun 1, 2007 @ 14:05
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 14:26
It arrived in Europe around 1984 (congrats to the one who will manage to find a picture of it). It looked like an electronic chip with a face on. There were two LED lights for the eyes. One green, one red. You could select green for "I'm happy, talk to me", green and red for "I'm so so", red for "stay away".
A few months ago, I've heard about dating parties were singles would answer 100 questions on a computer, download the results in a small box and then compare percentage of matching interest with potential partners via infrared connection. But c'mon, it's 21th century today, let's push it further: with bluethoth technology, we could have small boxes in the pocket that would shake whenever someone with the same goal in life / matching interests crosses you. A wireless link with a heart rate monitor would let each other know that they feel attracted. No more twin soul stupidly missed ! Hormone sensor and potential partner past life, income and criminal history checker optional. Hobbes' patent pending ;-P
A few months ago, I've heard about dating parties were singles would answer 100 questions on a computer, download the results in a small box and then compare percentage of matching interest with potential partners via infrared connection. But c'mon, it's 21th century today, let's push it further: with bluethoth technology, we could have small boxes in the pocket that would shake whenever someone with the same goal in life / matching interests crosses you. A wireless link with a heart rate monitor would let each other know that they feel attracted. No more twin soul stupidly missed ! Hormone sensor and potential partner past life, income and criminal history checker optional. Hobbes' patent pending ;-P
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It arrived in Europe around 1984 (congrats to the one who will manage to find a picture of it). It looked like an electronic chip with a face on. There were two LED lights for the eyes. One green, one red. You could select green for "I'm happy, talk to me", green and red for "I'm so so", red for "stay away".
A few months ago, I've heard about dating parties were singles would answer 100 questions on a computer, download the results in a small box and then compare percentage of matching interest with potential partners via infrared connection. But c'mon, it's 21th century today, let's push it further: with bluethoth technology, we could have small boxes in the pocket that would shake whenever someone with the same goal in life / matching interests crosses you. A wireless link with a heart rate monitor would let each other know that they feel attracted. No more twin soul stupidly missed ! Hormone sensor and potential partner past life, income and criminal history checker optional. Hobbes' patent pending ;-P
Hobbes, Jun 1, 2007 @ 14:26
A few months ago, I've heard about dating parties were singles would answer 100 questions on a computer, download the results in a small box and then compare percentage of matching interest with potential partners via infrared connection. But c'mon, it's 21th century today, let's push it further: with bluethoth technology, we could have small boxes in the pocket that would shake whenever someone with the same goal in life / matching interests crosses you. A wireless link with a heart rate monitor would let each other know that they feel attracted. No more twin soul stupidly missed ! Hormone sensor and potential partner past life, income and criminal history checker optional. Hobbes' patent pending ;-P
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 14:38
No kidding ! What about a Sindy "What are you up for" party ? The easiest display method is various colors stickers (green, red, blue, yellow, black). More advanced ones could be like a parking disk, clothespins on a multiple zone card or LED numbers. With low cost LED devices (belt bucks, etc), nothing's impossible today.
Feeling back in teenager's mood Hobbes :-D
Feeling back in teenager's mood Hobbes :-D
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No kidding ! What about a Sindy "What are you up for" party ? The easiest display method is various colors stickers (green, red, blue, yellow, black). More advanced ones could be like a parking disk, clothespins on a multiple zone card or LED numbers. With low cost LED devices (belt bucks, etc), nothing's impossible today.
Feeling back in teenager's mood Hobbes :-D
Hobbes, Jun 1, 2007 @ 14:38
Feeling back in teenager's mood Hobbes :-D
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 14:48
Gee... knowing your girl, I wouldn't like to be you in that case ! ;-)
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Gee... knowing your girl, I wouldn't like to be you in that case ! ;-)
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 16:12
Thanks Tinkie and you ask a very fair question. The matter of existence has been mentioned about me, my sister and others before, so will happily explain. Due to work and other commitments I can often be offline for a month or so, but then post 10 threads when I do get some minutes on the site. I am not in the Geneva area as often as I may wish, so unfortunately it can be difficult to attend member activities.
Weekends are usually the only free time I have. I arrange the occasional GoL activity and they are advertised on the site, but due to limited resources the events are often small in terms of attendance numbers. From December to April I am usually skiing most weekends and enjoyed arranging several GoL ski trips/lessons last season. Then May to November I try to visit Geneva more often, but am regularly away in the UK too. As Hobbes mentioned, the trips are also a factor and I can understand if some had doubts about that. Four countries, two parties and 2,000km all in a single weekend is not everyone's cup of tea or mojito. But for those who are interested the photos are on the GoL pictures section (page 13) and any member is free to arrange similar things.
I do exist, but I am not part of the village, the anti-village, the undercover morris dancing society or any other groupings there might be. GoL is an institution I admire because I think it has a positive effect on the lives of many. My GoL network is varied and they are all fun people. Some I know better than others or have more in common with. When out casually in Geneva or at a GoL/Sindy event then it is often nice to meet new people and anyone is welcome to come say hi. Apologies if I have not been seen around that often, but I will be in Geneva for the Sindy Beach Party on 9th June. If it suits you then it would be a pleasure to meet you and others at the upcoming parties. Best wishes, Phil.
p.s. thanks to Val (Hoiling), Hobbes, Julian and others for kind words.)
Weekends are usually the only free time I have. I arrange the occasional GoL activity and they are advertised on the site, but due to limited resources the events are often small in terms of attendance numbers. From December to April I am usually skiing most weekends and enjoyed arranging several GoL ski trips/lessons last season. Then May to November I try to visit Geneva more often, but am regularly away in the UK too. As Hobbes mentioned, the trips are also a factor and I can understand if some had doubts about that. Four countries, two parties and 2,000km all in a single weekend is not everyone's cup of tea or mojito. But for those who are interested the photos are on the GoL pictures section (page 13) and any member is free to arrange similar things.
I do exist, but I am not part of the village, the anti-village, the undercover morris dancing society or any other groupings there might be. GoL is an institution I admire because I think it has a positive effect on the lives of many. My GoL network is varied and they are all fun people. Some I know better than others or have more in common with. When out casually in Geneva or at a GoL/Sindy event then it is often nice to meet new people and anyone is welcome to come say hi. Apologies if I have not been seen around that often, but I will be in Geneva for the Sindy Beach Party on 9th June. If it suits you then it would be a pleasure to meet you and others at the upcoming parties. Best wishes, Phil.
p.s. thanks to Val (Hoiling), Hobbes, Julian and others for kind words.)
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Thanks Tinkie and you ask a very fair question. The matter of existence has been mentioned about me, my sister and others before, so will happily explain. Due to work and other commitments I can often be offline for a month or so, but then post 10 threads when I do get some minutes on the site. I am not in the Geneva area as often as I may wish, so unfortunately it can be difficult to attend member activities.
Weekends are usually the only free time I have. I arrange the occasional GoL activity and they are advertised on the site, but due to limited resources the events are often small in terms of attendance numbers. From December to April I am usually skiing most weekends and enjoyed arranging several GoL ski trips/lessons last season. Then May to November I try to visit Geneva more often, but am regularly away in the UK too. As Hobbes mentioned, the trips are also a factor and I can understand if some had doubts about that. Four countries, two parties and 2,000km all in a single weekend is not everyone's cup of tea or mojito. But for those who are interested the photos are on the GoL pictures section (page 13) and any member is free to arrange similar things.
I do exist, but I am not part of the village, the anti-village, the undercover morris dancing society or any other groupings there might be. GoL is an institution I admire because I think it has a positive effect on the lives of many. My GoL network is varied and they are all fun people. Some I know better than others or have more in common with. When out casually in Geneva or at a GoL/Sindy event then it is often nice to meet new people and anyone is welcome to come say hi. Apologies if I have not been seen around that often, but I will be in Geneva for the Sindy Beach Party on 9th June. If it suits you then it would be a pleasure to meet you and others at the upcoming parties. Best wishes, Phil.
p.s. thanks to Val (Hoiling), Hobbes, Julian and others for kind words.)
phil, Jun 1, 2007 @ 16:12
Weekends are usually the only free time I have. I arrange the occasional GoL activity and they are advertised on the site, but due to limited resources the events are often small in terms of attendance numbers. From December to April I am usually skiing most weekends and enjoyed arranging several GoL ski trips/lessons last season. Then May to November I try to visit Geneva more often, but am regularly away in the UK too. As Hobbes mentioned, the trips are also a factor and I can understand if some had doubts about that. Four countries, two parties and 2,000km all in a single weekend is not everyone's cup of tea or mojito. But for those who are interested the photos are on the GoL pictures section (page 13) and any member is free to arrange similar things.
I do exist, but I am not part of the village, the anti-village, the undercover morris dancing society or any other groupings there might be. GoL is an institution I admire because I think it has a positive effect on the lives of many. My GoL network is varied and they are all fun people. Some I know better than others or have more in common with. When out casually in Geneva or at a GoL/Sindy event then it is often nice to meet new people and anyone is welcome to come say hi. Apologies if I have not been seen around that often, but I will be in Geneva for the Sindy Beach Party on 9th June. If it suits you then it would be a pleasure to meet you and others at the upcoming parties. Best wishes, Phil.
p.s. thanks to Val (Hoiling), Hobbes, Julian and others for kind words.)
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 16:55
They were called stop light parties. Basically you wore eithr red, yellow, or green to advertise your status......red was you were taken or just didnt want to be hit on, yellow procede with caution, and green meant you were actively looking.
They were amusing!
They were amusing!
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They were called stop light parties. Basically you wore eithr red, yellow, or green to advertise your status......red was you were taken or just didnt want to be hit on, yellow procede with caution, and green meant you were actively looking.
They were amusing!
Jillybeano, Jun 1, 2007 @ 16:55
They were amusing!
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 17:51
ehu:?? didn't get the comment.It's friday keept it easy(nt)
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ehu:?? didn't get the comment.It's friday keept it easy(nt)
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 17:53
famous for parking fine :) and how hard it is to find parking slots, so .. I like the idea of 'availability status' compare to parking stickers :p
Don't think I'll actively join, never like the 'pick up' party idea too much, but could be fun to organize ...
Val - those teenage year are long gone :) :) :) (YAY!)
Don't think I'll actively join, never like the 'pick up' party idea too much, but could be fun to organize ...
Val - those teenage year are long gone :) :) :) (YAY!)
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famous for parking fine :) and how hard it is to find parking slots, so .. I like the idea of 'availability status' compare to parking stickers :p
Don't think I'll actively join, never like the 'pick up' party idea too much, but could be fun to organize ...
Val - those teenage year are long gone :) :) :) (YAY!)
Hoiling, Jun 1, 2007 @ 17:53
Don't think I'll actively join, never like the 'pick up' party idea too much, but could be fun to organize ...
Val - those teenage year are long gone :) :) :) (YAY!)
Hoiling, Jun 1, 2007 @ 17:53
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Jun 1, 2007 @ 18:01
from head to toe in bright green grinning stupidly at every girl that walks past... occasionaly winking or giving them a thumbs up sign...
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from head to toe in bright green grinning stupidly at every girl that walks past... occasionaly winking or giving them a thumbs up sign...
joellem88, Jun 1, 2007 @ 18:01
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Post 43
Jun 1, 2007 @ 19:19
I know i'm late to this discussion but want to add Hear Hear
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I know i'm late to this discussion but want to add Hear Hear
Susie, Jun 1, 2007 @ 19:19
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Post 44
Jun 1, 2007 @ 19:46
changing a quote from Tinkie: I think things are not so simple, though I wish they were.
Vale - appreciating simple and easy
Vale - appreciating simple and easy
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changing a quote from Tinkie: I think things are not so simple, though I wish they were.
Vale - appreciating simple and easy
Hoiling, Jun 1, 2007 @ 19:46
Vale - appreciating simple and easy
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Post 45
Jun 1, 2007 @ 20:25
Thought you raised some good points. From time to time me, my sister, former flatmates etc all use the same computer and has lead to confusion or rumours in the past. A couple of close contacts have my GoL/e-mail login so that messages can get checked or forwarded to me while I am away. Fortunately there are a number of known GoL people who have met me, my sister etc and we do all exist. Just noticed that you and I have quite a few mutual GoL friends so I am sure we will cross paths soon. Looking forward to it. Best wishes, Phil
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Thought you raised some good points. From time to time me, my sister, former flatmates etc all use the same computer and has lead to confusion or rumours in the past. A couple of close contacts have my GoL/e-mail login so that messages can get checked or forwarded to me while I am away. Fortunately there are a number of known GoL people who have met me, my sister etc and we do all exist. Just noticed that you and I have quite a few mutual GoL friends so I am sure we will cross paths soon. Looking forward to it. Best wishes, Phil
phil, Jun 1, 2007 @ 20:25
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Post 46
Jun 1, 2007 @ 20:30
..."anything goes"? :)
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Post 47
Jun 1, 2007 @ 23:45
you get those guys at any party or club....just not always wearing green!
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you get those guys at any party or club....just not always wearing green!
Jillybeano, Jun 1, 2007 @ 23:45
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Post 48
Jun 2, 2007 @ 20:44
Complicated relationships are a pain in the *** and an excellent reason to run in the opposite direction.
A one night stand which can be repeated, interesting concept : ) This then turns into a,
a what? A short term? A long term? If it's good, marriage? Then divorce and the whole cycle of cheerful optimism starts again :-)
A one night stand which can be repeated, interesting concept : ) This then turns into a,
a what? A short term? A long term? If it's good, marriage? Then divorce and the whole cycle of cheerful optimism starts again :-)
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Complicated relationships are a pain in the *** and an excellent reason to run in the opposite direction.
A one night stand which can be repeated, interesting concept : ) This then turns into a,
a what? A short term? A long term? If it's good, marriage? Then divorce and the whole cycle of cheerful optimism starts again :-)
Sylph, Jun 2, 2007 @ 20:44
A one night stand which can be repeated, interesting concept : ) This then turns into a,
a what? A short term? A long term? If it's good, marriage? Then divorce and the whole cycle of cheerful optimism starts again :-)
Sylph, Jun 2, 2007 @ 20:44
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Post 49
Jun 3, 2007 @ 12:06
is a fairly precise option ;-)
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Post 50
Jun 4, 2007 @ 10:11
why not go for, say, 1000 decimal places while we're at it?
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why not go for, say, 1000 decimal places while we're at it?
Katri, Jun 4, 2007 @ 10:11
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Post 51
Jun 6, 2007 @ 13:02
You number crunchers geeks know it all ! ;-)
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You number crunchers geeks know it all ! ;-)
Hobbes, Jun 6, 2007 @ 13:02
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Post 52
Jun 6, 2007 @ 15:36
These things exist already http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/led-tagz/index.html
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These things exist already http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/led-tagz/index.html
britabroad, Jun 6, 2007 @ 15:36
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Post 53
Jun 6, 2007 @ 18:35
What about those ones also:
"If you want me, get me"
"My kind of girl is YOU !"
"If you say yes, you're my type !"
"Don't be shy, I'm drunk"
"I'm not a bad lover, I'm just virgin"
"I don't do one night stands... I leave before sunrise"
Or
"My husband is the big guy at the door"
"I'm desparate... but not as bad as dating you"
"Stay close to me, makes me look nicer"
"Not tonight, I'm short of Viagra"
"I love algebra and paying taxes"
"I voted for Bush and I'm proud of it"
"If you want me, get me"
"My kind of girl is YOU !"
"If you say yes, you're my type !"
"Don't be shy, I'm drunk"
"I'm not a bad lover, I'm just virgin"
"I don't do one night stands... I leave before sunrise"
Or
"My husband is the big guy at the door"
"I'm desparate... but not as bad as dating you"
"Stay close to me, makes me look nicer"
"Not tonight, I'm short of Viagra"
"I love algebra and paying taxes"
"I voted for Bush and I'm proud of it"
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What about those ones also:
"If you want me, get me"
"My kind of girl is YOU !"
"If you say yes, you're my type !"
"Don't be shy, I'm drunk"
"I'm not a bad lover, I'm just virgin"
"I don't do one night stands... I leave before sunrise"
Or
"My husband is the big guy at the door"
"I'm desparate... but not as bad as dating you"
"Stay close to me, makes me look nicer"
"Not tonight, I'm short of Viagra"
"I love algebra and paying taxes"
"I voted for Bush and I'm proud of it"
Hobbes, Jun 6, 2007 @ 18:35
"If you want me, get me"
"My kind of girl is YOU !"
"If you say yes, you're my type !"
"Don't be shy, I'm drunk"
"I'm not a bad lover, I'm just virgin"
"I don't do one night stands... I leave before sunrise"
Or
"My husband is the big guy at the door"
"I'm desparate... but not as bad as dating you"
"Stay close to me, makes me look nicer"
"Not tonight, I'm short of Viagra"
"I love algebra and paying taxes"
"I voted for Bush and I'm proud of it"
Hobbes, Jun 6, 2007 @ 18:35
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Post 54
Jun 6, 2007 @ 18:37
696 ?
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Post 55
Jun 14, 2007 @ 01:40
is not my favourite subject. But well just passing by, it is not very common to meet plp that actually know what they want.
that actually know how to express what they want
that actually know how their expression could be perceived
But it is no problem: the hormonal system is an ever improving jewlery
Cheers,
B.
that actually know how to express what they want
that actually know how their expression could be perceived
But it is no problem: the hormonal system is an ever improving jewlery
Cheers,
B.
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is not my favourite subject. But well just passing by, it is not very common to meet plp that actually know what they want.
that actually know how to express what they want
that actually know how their expression could be perceived
But it is no problem: the hormonal system is an ever improving jewlery
Cheers,
B.
brooster, Jun 14, 2007 @ 01:40
that actually know how to express what they want
that actually know how their expression could be perceived
But it is no problem: the hormonal system is an ever improving jewlery
Cheers,
B.
brooster, Jun 14, 2007 @ 01:40
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Post 56
Oct 15, 2009 @ 16:51
"they have to pretend to be something they are not because their real
personality is so chronically pathetic that they would never get a date
in the first place. Clearly such losers use their pants as brain
storage compartments. After all, genuine alpha males who are morally
upstanding never have to fake it"
100% CORRECT!!!!!!!!
THANKS FOR POSTING THIS!!!!!
:-)
personality is so chronically pathetic that they would never get a date
in the first place. Clearly such losers use their pants as brain
storage compartments. After all, genuine alpha males who are morally
upstanding never have to fake it"
100% CORRECT!!!!!!!!
THANKS FOR POSTING THIS!!!!!
:-)
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"they have to pretend to be something they are not because their real
personality is so chronically pathetic that they would never get a date
in the first place. Clearly such losers use their pants as brain
storage compartments. After all, genuine alpha males who are morally
upstanding never have to fake it"
100% CORRECT!!!!!!!!
THANKS FOR POSTING THIS!!!!!
:-)
Danusia, Oct 15, 2009 @ 16:51
personality is so chronically pathetic that they would never get a date
in the first place. Clearly such losers use their pants as brain
storage compartments. After all, genuine alpha males who are morally
upstanding never have to fake it"
100% CORRECT!!!!!!!!
THANKS FOR POSTING THIS!!!!!
:-)
Danusia, Oct 15, 2009 @ 16:51
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Post 57
Dec 16, 2013 @ 15:44
Are many of these types of men here in Geneva? Well and I guess, vice versa for women. I'm new to the city and curious about the dating scene here. What's it like dating here in Geneva?
Cheers
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Are many of these types of men here in Geneva? Well and I guess, vice versa for women. I'm new to the city and curious about the dating scene here. What's it like dating here in Geneva?
Cheers
Vi T, Dec 16, 2013 @ 15:44
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