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The Truth about Girly-Clubs
Last night I met a friend-of-a-friend who works as a barman for one of Lausanne's most established Girly-Clubs (aka girly-clubs). There's a ton of them in GVA & Lausanne. I grilled him a bit about what goes on behind the scenes of these clubs, and here's what he said.

How these clubs make their living
By selling drinks. To sit and talk with a girl, you have to buy her a glass, or a bottle. A glass is CHF 60, a bottle starts at CHF 800. And most clients buy 2 bottles a night.

The dancing girls

  • Most of them are in the early twenties
  • They make a fixed salary that is very good, plus a commission on the drinks that 'their' clients sell.
  • Their mission during the night is to get the client to buy them as many drinks as possible. For this, all tricks are good:
    • When the client is not looking, the girl empties her glass to the floor, so he has to buy her another
    • The girl lets the client understand that if he buys her a bottle, she'll be more 'friendly' with him
  • Most girls do the work for 2-3 years, and then 'retire' back to their home country, where they can live very well with the money they saved.

Sex for Money
Where he works, it's not encouraged. A girl can hook up with a client and see him after work hours, and then it's her business. But during 'work hours', there's no 'official' sex in the club. He says the policy is different in other places, where sex-for-money is more open.

Abuse of the Girls
He says, contrary to what I believed, that the girls are treated very fairly by the club owners (and clients). There's no practice of taking their passports and abusing them. All is legal and above ground: the girls even have special 'exotic dancer' work permits...

Underworld involvement
He said that in his club, there's really no low-lives running the show behind the scenes. It's normal people who run the place, and they run it like a normal business. I'm still not convinced tho...:)

That's it. It was real interesting to talk to this guy, and get a glimpse into this world that is so far from most of us.

Nir

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Last night I met a friend-of-a-friend who works as a barman for one of Lausanne's most established Girly-Clubs (aka girly-clubs). There's a ton of them in GVA & Lausanne. I grilled him a bit about what goes on behind the scenes of these clubs, and here's what he said.

How these clubs make their living
By selling drinks. To sit and talk with a girl, you have to buy her a glass, or a bottle. A glass is CHF 60, a bottle starts at CHF 800. And most clients buy 2 bottles a night.

The dancing girls

  • Most of them are in the early twenties
  • They make a fixed salary that is very good, plus a commission on the drinks that 'their' clients sell.
  • Their mission during the night is to get the client to buy them as many drinks as possible. For this, all tricks are good:
    • When the client is not looking, the girl empties her glass to the floor, so he has to buy her another
    • The girl lets the client understand that if he buys her a bottle, she'll be more 'friendly' with him
  • Most girls do the work for 2-3 years, and then 'retire' back to their home country, where they can live very well with the money they saved.

Sex for Money
Where he works, it's not encouraged. A girl can hook up with a client and see him after work hours, and then it's her business. But during 'work hours', there's no 'official' sex in the club. He says the policy is different in other places, where sex-for-money is more open.

Abuse of the Girls
He says, contrary to what I believed, that the girls are treated very fairly by the club owners (and clients). There's no practice of taking their passports and abusing them. All is legal and above ground: the girls even have special 'exotic dancer' work permits...

Underworld involvement
He said that in his club, there's really no low-lives running the show behind the scenes. It's normal people who run the place, and they run it like a normal business. I'm still not convinced tho...:)

That's it. It was real interesting to talk to this guy, and get a glimpse into this world that is so far from most of us.

Nir
Nir OfekOct 28, 2008 @ 10:59

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That's OK Nir, you do not have to hide behind a "friend". We can accept the fact that you are a "regular" in these clubs... ;)
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That's OK Nir, you do not have to hide behind a "friend". We can accept the fact that you are a "regular" in these clubs... ;)
Free, Oct 28, 2008 @ 11:42
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Thanks Free. It was that obvious, eh? (-:
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Thanks Free. It was that obvious, eh? (-:
Nir Ofek, Oct 28, 2008 @ 12:00
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Or it was at least some in depth research that went well above the call of duty.:D



The one that shocked me in reading the local paper yesterday is that prostitution is legal as of the age of 16 years old in Switzerland.:w00t:
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Or it was at least some in depth research that went well above the call of duty.:D



The one that shocked me in reading the local paper yesterday is that prostitution is legal as of the age of 16 years old in Switzerland.:w00t:
Verbier, Oct 28, 2008 @ 12:32
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So Nir..... if what Free said was at all true..... only IF !!, then a couple of bottles of Moet at supermarket prices will be well within your budget for the Curry Club celebrations!! ... :P

Rando'

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So Nir..... if what Free said was at all true..... only IF !!, then a couple of bottles of Moet at supermarket prices will be well within your budget for the Curry Club celebrations!! ... :P

Rando'
Randonneur, Oct 28, 2008 @ 13:28

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There's one very important piece of information missing from this post.



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Nir_ (28/10/2008)[/b]

A glass is CHF 60, a bottle starts at CHF 800. [/quote]



A glass of what starts at sixty chuff???? As a benchmark, that would get me six large beers in Le Cabinet and 20 (yes twenty, count'em) glasses of shoddy wine in l'Usine. 60 chuff is 8 times the price of the shoes I'm wearing right now. That'd be 16 shoes. And by and large, I'm pro-girl!
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There's one very important piece of information missing from this post.



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Nir_ (28/10/2008)[/b]

A glass is CHF 60, a bottle starts at CHF 800. [/quote]



A glass of what starts at sixty chuff???? As a benchmark, that would get me six large beers in Le Cabinet and 20 (yes twenty, count'em) glasses of shoddy wine in l'Usine. 60 chuff is 8 times the price of the shoes I'm wearing right now. That'd be 16 shoes. And by and large, I'm pro-girl!
hayes, Oct 28, 2008 @ 14:28
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Hayes,

I don't know, but I'm assuming they're charge you CHF 60 (or in that range) for a glass of anything, even soft drink. It has nothing with the price they pay, or with the market price of the beverage. It's how they make their money, and the 'price' they charge for speaking with 'their' girls.

Might sound crazy, but from what I'm told, these places are all doing good business...

Kind of sad really. It's men who pay a lot of money just to speak to some pretty girl, who is open about the fact she's only after your money...I don't know why you and Randoneur go there, really. :)

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Hayes,

I don't know, but I'm assuming they're charge you CHF 60 (or in that range) for a glass of anything, even soft drink. It has nothing with the price they pay, or with the market price of the beverage. It's how they make their money, and the 'price' they charge for speaking with 'their' girls.

Might sound crazy, but from what I'm told, these places are all doing good business...

Kind of sad really. It's men who pay a lot of money just to speak to some pretty girl, who is open about the fact she's only after your money...I don't know why you and Randoneur go there, really. :)
Nir Ofek, Oct 28, 2008 @ 14:33

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Well I guess the dodgy wine will help appreciate the "musician" on stage tonight - have fun!

It just occurred to me too, and maybe only brits will get this wordplay...., but one should be quite careful when one says:

"I'm chuffed ol' chap"..... could imply your loaded with chuffs??!!

Imagaine, (requires some thoughts from th un-initated I am sure) in a girly club, saying to one of the girls that you are, "Quite chuffed to meet you". Does that mean you have a wad of chuffs to blow....?

Rando'

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Well I guess the dodgy wine will help appreciate the "musician" on stage tonight - have fun!

It just occurred to me too, and maybe only brits will get this wordplay...., but one should be quite careful when one says:

"I'm chuffed ol' chap"..... could imply your loaded with chuffs??!!

Imagaine, (requires some thoughts from th un-initated I am sure) in a girly club, saying to one of the girls that you are, "Quite chuffed to meet you". Does that mean you have a wad of chuffs to blow....?

Rando'
Randonneur, Oct 28, 2008 @ 14:39

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[quote][b]tinkie (28/10/2008)

[/b]yeah guys, stop going, I'll speak to you for CHf 20.- :P[/quote]



Pfft, we all know you'll talk to us for free on the internet ;) Between dive bars and the internet, life in Geneva really is pretty cheap.
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[quote][b]tinkie (28/10/2008)

[/b]yeah guys, stop going, I'll speak to you for CHf 20.- :P[/quote]



Pfft, we all know you'll talk to us for free on the internet ;) Between dive bars and the internet, life in Geneva really is pretty cheap.
hayes, Oct 28, 2008 @ 14:50
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Nir will talk for only 10 chuffs an hour....

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Nir will talk for only 10 chuffs an hour....
Randonneur, Oct 28, 2008 @ 14:57

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[quote][b]hayes (28/10/2008)

[/b][quote][b]tinkie (28/10/2008)

[/b]yeah guys, stop going, I'll speak to you for CHf 20.-[/quote]Pfft, we all know you'll talk to us for free on the internet ;)[/quote]

That would be so sweet :)
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[quote][b]hayes (28/10/2008)

[/b][quote][b]tinkie (28/10/2008)

[/b]yeah guys, stop going, I'll speak to you for CHf 20.-[/quote]Pfft, we all know you'll talk to us for free on the internet ;)[/quote]

That would be so sweet :)
Free, Oct 28, 2008 @ 15:47
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tinkie...you're the only girl that posted .:D..
I think all the guys wanna know if you went to one of these bars to "watch" or to "dance" ;)

cheers!

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tinkie...you're the only girl that posted .:D..
I think all the guys wanna know if you went to one of these bars to "watch" or to "dance" ;)

cheers!
divagirl, Oct 28, 2008 @ 15:58

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tinkie (28/10/2008)
yeah guys, stop going, I'll speak to you for CHf 20.- :P

...and then how much to stop talking?:unsure:
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tinkie (28/10/2008)
yeah guys, stop going, I'll speak to you for CHf 20.- :P

...and then how much to stop talking?:unsure:
Casuistik, Oct 28, 2008 @ 16:20
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tinkie (28/10/2008)
Casuistik, shutting me up will definitely be more expensive:cool:. But I should get a job in a few days so you won't see me on the forums as much. Too bad you are not joining us on Thursday evening coz I would really have liked to meet you (and kick you butt :P) in person.



Divagirl, I haven't had an answer about the pole dancing lessons yet, so no chance to see me in one of these clubs dancing. :w00t:
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Kicking my butt costs Chf 300.- (See Nir or Oded for a 10% discount), no credit card.
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tinkie (28/10/2008)
Casuistik, shutting me up will definitely be more expensive:cool:. But I should get a job in a few days so you won't see me on the forums as much. Too bad you are not joining us on Thursday evening coz I would really have liked to meet you (and kick you butt :P) in person.



Divagirl, I haven't had an answer about the pole dancing lessons yet, so no chance to see me in one of these clubs dancing. :w00t:
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Kicking my butt costs Chf 300.- (See Nir or Oded for a 10% discount), no credit card.
Casuistik, Oct 28, 2008 @ 17:01
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isa413(and counting)

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Live and let live [Smile]





Forgive me Casuistik, – will be unable to meet you for



That lunch tomorrow that youmeco has organised and



Also unable to join the dinner Thursday, bolt out of the



Blue, I am confined to bed



But you know me, I shall put on my happy face and grin



And bear it [Wink]




Well, I'm somehow happy that you can't make it tomorrow, because "tomorrow" was today; so I have to guess that you couldn't have made it today, which doesn't make me so unhappy because it seems that you didn't know it was today anyway, so it doesn't change anything really.

Well... Just get better.. this will make all of us happy.
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isa413(and counting)

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Live and let live [Smile]





Forgive me Casuistik, – will be unable to meet you for



That lunch tomorrow that youmeco has organised and



Also unable to join the dinner Thursday, bolt out of the



Blue, I am confined to bed



But you know me, I shall put on my happy face and grin



And bear it [Wink]




Well, I'm somehow happy that you can't make it tomorrow, because "tomorrow" was today; so I have to guess that you couldn't have made it today, which doesn't make me so unhappy because it seems that you didn't know it was today anyway, so it doesn't change anything really.

Well... Just get better.. this will make all of us happy.
Casuistik, Oct 28, 2008 @ 17:16
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Huh? ...We're you going to do some private pole-dancing Isa? ;)

Hope you get better soon! :-) J.




Private or not, Banka would be more likely to do something like this...



(Just to see if YouMeCo gets this one!:))
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Huh? ...We're you going to do some private pole-dancing Isa? ;)

Hope you get better soon! :-) J.




Private or not, Banka would be more likely to do something like this...



(Just to see if YouMeCo gets this one!:))

Casuistik, Oct 28, 2008 @ 17:24
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A friend of a friend of a friend of a cousin of mine (that I really dont like ) :) was walking home, a bit tipsy, after a glocals event newbies event. he lives right next to one of those bars. A gorgeous girl insisted that he invites her for a drink. "max. 5 minutes" she said. he stayed for 15 minutes! got a bill for 1200 CHF and when he dared to complain, a 6 feet guy showed up with a policeman threatening to call his work and screw his professional career.

With all my respects, they are not so sweet. Even though, they look and act civilised ( as the friend told my second cousin ;) ), I still think, that normal, sweet innocent guys like my cousin, need protection from those girls and not the other way around.

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A friend of a friend of a friend of a cousin of mine (that I really dont like ) :) was walking home, a bit tipsy, after a glocals event newbies event. he lives right next to one of those bars. A gorgeous girl insisted that he invites her for a drink. "max. 5 minutes" she said. he stayed for 15 minutes! got a bill for 1200 CHF and when he dared to complain, a 6 feet guy showed up with a policeman threatening to call his work and screw his professional career.

With all my respects, they are not so sweet. Even though, they look and act civilised ( as the friend told my second cousin ;) ), I still think, that normal, sweet innocent guys like my cousin, need protection from those girls and not the other way around.
Tony_datone, Oct 28, 2008 @ 17:31

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Toni you are too funny!!! Where are these clubs I have never heard of them??? Basically its the same as a night at the bar just on a higher scale and you are promised a wage for all the time you spend listening to these sorry guys!! Doesnt sound like that bad of a job....
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Toni you are too funny!!! Where are these clubs I have never heard of them??? Basically its the same as a night at the bar just on a higher scale and you are promised a wage for all the time you spend listening to these sorry guys!! Doesnt sound like that bad of a job....
Prin, Oct 28, 2008 @ 18:43
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.....

business suit:  none
office cubicle:  none
corporate ladders to climb: none
a small business to call your own:  priceless

http://www.priceless.com/us/personal/en/pricelesstv/index.html

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business suit:  none
office cubicle:  none
corporate ladders to climb: none
a small business to call your own:  priceless

http://www.priceless.com/us/personal/en/pricelesstv/index.html
divagirl, Oct 28, 2008 @ 18:50

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Huh? ...We're you going to do some private pole-dancing Isa?
Hope you get better soon! :-) J.


Private or not, Banka would be more likely to do something like this...
(Just to see if YouMeCo gets this one!)"

Casuistik... :ermm:...:blush:... ok you've stummped me, but why am i not surprised; not the first time. so who'll do the honor to me what this means?  btw, was great to finally meet off the pc screen!

Tony_d... isn't that extortion?  :angry: is that allowed in Geneva? (note to myself: should be careful of who I meet in public) i wonder if you can ask to see the price list before you go in.  And here I thought I learned my lessons in various pyramid schemes like sending in check for $20 to find out how to earn up to $500-1000/wk from working from home, only to find out they send you a piece of paper explaining how to post adds in newspapers (pre-internet days) and make other people send you checks.  Instinct often tells me if it smells fishy, it probably is fishy.  Becareful of those thorny roses!

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Huh? ...We're you going to do some private pole-dancing Isa?
Hope you get better soon! :-) J.


Private or not, Banka would be more likely to do something like this...
(Just to see if YouMeCo gets this one!)"

Casuistik... :ermm:...:blush:... ok you've stummped me, but why am i not surprised; not the first time. so who'll do the honor to me what this means?  btw, was great to finally meet off the pc screen!

Tony_d... isn't that extortion?  :angry: is that allowed in Geneva? (note to myself: should be careful of who I meet in public) i wonder if you can ask to see the price list before you go in.  And here I thought I learned my lessons in various pyramid schemes like sending in check for $20 to find out how to earn up to $500-1000/wk from working from home, only to find out they send you a piece of paper explaining how to post adds in newspapers (pre-internet days) and make other people send you checks.  Instinct often tells me if it smells fishy, it probably is fishy.  Becareful of those thorny roses!
YouMeCo, Oct 28, 2008 @ 18:53

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oh, and btw, leave it to NIR and his marketing skills to stir the pot and get a thread going!

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oh, and btw, leave it to NIR and his marketing skills to stir the pot and get a thread going!


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Isa, Tomorrow is the new today. but in your case, it's too late!

Dag.. casuistik did it to me again. :pinch:  he even referred back to this exact joke this afternoon and already has slipped my mind. Ok.. i'm going to go back to my cave now til friday Halloween night when i hope to be surprised to see a great cast of characters.  We will however stay far away from the paquis area so as not to be tempted by the charming ladies.

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Isa, Tomorrow is the new today. but in your case, it's too late!

Dag.. casuistik did it to me again. :pinch:  he even referred back to this exact joke this afternoon and already has slipped my mind. Ok.. i'm going to go back to my cave now til friday Halloween night when i hope to be surprised to see a great cast of characters.  We will however stay far away from the paquis area so as not to be tempted by the charming ladies.
YouMeCo, Oct 28, 2008 @ 19:34

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Well, he was a little dumb and alot drunk! But I guess, he, was basing his opinion( if he was in a position to make any) on that in Canada for instance, those places are very safe to go into. The price of beer is the same as any other bar. There are pool tables and darts around the dance floor and its not like the 40's cliche where you get ripped off after 3 minutes!
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Well, he was a little dumb and alot drunk! But I guess, he, was basing his opinion( if he was in a position to make any) on that in Canada for instance, those places are very safe to go into. The price of beer is the same as any other bar. There are pool tables and darts around the dance floor and its not like the 40's cliche where you get ripped off after 3 minutes!
Tony_datone, Oct 28, 2008 @ 21:37
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..or ripped off clothes after 3 minutes...

guess your friend ;) was imagining he was going to go in there hoping to meet hockey players :D

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..or ripped off clothes after 3 minutes...

guess your friend ;) was imagining he was going to go in there hoping to meet hockey players :D
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Well, I cant really know what was going on in his head! remember he is a very very far connection :) . I dont want to defend him, but all i am saying is that most probably , he thought that the prices would be max. 5 times Canada , which leads to 25 CHF and then everyone is happy, and he goes home after a drink!!!

I cant really say for how long he has been here!! Come on :)

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Well, I cant really know what was going on in his head! remember he is a very very far connection :) . I dont want to defend him, but all i am saying is that most probably , he thought that the prices would be max. 5 times Canada , which leads to 25 CHF and then everyone is happy, and he goes home after a drink!!!

I cant really say for how long he has been here!! Come on :)
Tony_datone, Oct 28, 2008 @ 21:59

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Well if you need a bouncer ... :)
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Well if you need a bouncer ... :)
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I want to dance
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I want to dance
goatman, Nov 6, 2008 @ 23:48
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hi girlz !

 

best of luck isa n tinkie ! ....stay united n keep up ur fight with the boyz outside ur club waiting! :hehe:

 

arpan

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hi girlz !

 

best of luck isa n tinkie ! ....stay united n keep up ur fight with the boyz outside ur club waiting! :hehe:

 

arpan
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hii,

somehow it made me feel that u n isa were both suddenly against all the boys in ths forum !:hehe:  ....the boyz r good after all sighting out the "true facts" na ?:)

take care

arpan

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hii,

somehow it made me feel that u n isa were both suddenly against all the boys in ths forum !:hehe:  ....the boyz r good after all sighting out the "true facts" na ?:)

take care

arpan
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