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I have a bad case of insomnia. Especially when i need to wake up early the next day. Warm milk doesnt work. Herbal teas dont work either. What do you guys do? Im getting tired of tossing and turning for hours every night (but not tired enough to sleep apparently!)


I head cardamon tea makes you sleepy. Any other sufferers out there?

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I have a bad case of insomnia. Especially when i need to wake up early the next day. Warm milk doesnt work. Herbal teas dont work either. What do you guys do? Im getting tired of tossing and turning for hours every night (but not tired enough to sleep apparently!)


I head cardamon tea makes you sleepy. Any other sufferers out there?


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well the best and easiest is to orgasm yourself to sleep but if that's not appropriate you may try L-tryptophan or L-glutamine (or both) prior to bedding. None of these natural or bio-bullshit herbal-grandma things do anything but empty your wallet and fill your bladder with water. You are certainly not "not tired" but you are likely anxious. And anxiety may camouflage a more serious condition called depression. 


feel free to PM-me if you like to discuss it further. I have had enough cases around me to be abke to talk very seriously about it

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well the best and easiest is to orgasm yourself to sleep but if that's not appropriate you may try L-tryptophan or L-glutamine (or both) prior to bedding. None of these natural or bio-bullshit herbal-grandma things do anything but empty your wallet and fill your bladder with water. You are certainly not "not tired" but you are likely anxious. And anxiety may camouflage a more serious condition called depression. 


feel free to PM-me if you like to discuss it further. I have had enough cases around me to be abke to talk very seriously about it


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Hey :)


Thanks for the info. Your diagnosis is definitely wrong for my case but maybe it will help others. My main problem is that by work hours are so messed up that my body doesnt know what time of the day is anymore.


As for your first suggestion. That works but unfortunately not always ;)

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Hey :)


Thanks for the info. Your diagnosis is definitely wrong for my case but maybe it will help others. My main problem is that by work hours are so messed up that my body doesnt know what time of the day is anymore.


As for your first suggestion. That works but unfortunately not always ;)


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I have a bad case of insomnia. Especially when i need to wake up early the next day. Warm milk doesnt work. Herbal teas dont work either. What do you guys do? Im getting tired of tossing and turning for hours every night (but not tired enough to sleep apparently!)

I head cardamon tea makes you sleepy. Any other sufferers out there?


Oct 28, 12 23:22

LOL Maria! Have you tried your own reply (the first one) to that other thread on the same topic WinkLaughing

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LOL Maria! Have you tried your own reply (the first one) to that other thread on the same topic WinkLaughing


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Do you know why you can't sleep? That would be a good start...

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Do you know why you can't sleep? That would be a good start...


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i come on here :( 

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i come on here :( 


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Via ferrata. That's an awesome cure that will get you to sleep. You'll be so afraid and terrified that your level of exhaustion will guarantee sleep within minutes of getting home, in time for sleep before that 5am shift. :-)

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Via ferrata. That's an awesome cure that will get you to sleep. You'll be so afraid and terrified that your level of exhaustion will guarantee sleep within minutes of getting home, in time for sleep before that 5am shift. :-)


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Maria, I suggest you watch Brad Anderson's "The Machinist" (2004). While it is not the kind of film that is going to put you to sleep, it will most likely make you seriously ponder the causes and consequences of chronic insomnia. It is a great drama (with an outstanding performance by a barely recognizable Christian Bale) and certainly more enjoyable than Chris Nolan's 2002 (questionable) remake of "Insomnia". The latter may induce sleep, however, so don't rule it out!


As far as home remedies are concerned, lavender essential oil can work wonders (I use a lavender-vanilla blend that is simply irresistible on any restless night). Stress-related conditions, including occasional sleeplessness and insomnia, can respond very well to aromatherapy. You just need to make sure that you use pure essential oils, not merely scented oils... Aromatherapy is not junk science or a silly grandma recipe; it just works!


You can prepare an inhalation and enjoy it for 10 minutes prior to going to bed. You may also use a few drops of a given oil or blend several oils in a hot bath and relax, then go to bed with a peaceful mind – for me, that does not work because I am wide awake again by the time I have dried off, cleaned the tub (the oily residue can be dangerous for the next user), and made it back to the bedroom...


I prefer using essential oils for skin application (e.g., massage, chest rub). The oil or oil blend must be diluted in a vegetable carrier oil (though lavender, tea tree, and ravensara essential oils may be applied directly to the skin, in small doses only). For a good base oil, I recommend sweet almond oil, preferably pressed from raw almond kernels with a natural expeller, which is very rich in vitamins and fatty acids (amongst others) and just wonderful for your skin. Another great option – especially for sensitive, inflamed, and more mature skins – is apricot kernel oil. It is full of oleic and linoleic acids, essential fatty acids, and vitamins A & E... Use 7 to 10 drops of essential oil for 25mL (app. 5 teaspoons) of carrier oil and massage onto your temples, forehead, neck, shoulders, and chest.


Pure essential oils that can help you de-stress and sleep better include: 



Roman chamomile oil + geranium oil in a bath + a nice cup of chamomile tea (infusion, really – a great, gentle sedative) / Do not use chamomile if you are taking certain meds (such as blood thinners) or if you are allergic to ragweed!


Lavender, neroli, sweet marjoram, rose: can be used in your bathwater, too (individually)

On your sheets and inside your pillowcases (NB: spray onto dryer sheets or a handkerchief first), you can try the following:



Benzoin resin or frankincense (useful to fight sleeplessness caused by worry, emotional exhaustion, and tension)
German or Roman chamomile (to calm nerves & stomach and induce sleep)
Jasmine (very relaxing and soothing, sedative, antidepressant, aphrodisiac –won’t help you sleep much–, and expectorant) – I’m with Charlie re: jasmine tea!
Lavender (calming, soothing to nerves & digestion, anti-depressant, great pain-reliever if you have anything from a headache to an earache or stomach cramps, good to lower blood pressure)
Melissa (relaxing, natural mood upper, efficient to counter anxiety and lower blood pressure, helps with digestion, menstrual cramps, and indigestion)
Neroli (very relaxing, useful against insomnia caused by anxiety, depression, irritability, panic, shock)
Rose (relaxing and soothing, nervous & digestive tonic, but it is also an aphrodisiac so use sparingly unless there is a sex drive issue at stake, too)
Sandalwood (relaxing, aphrodisiac, antidepressant, expectorant, digestive effect)
Sweet marjoram (warming and comforting, great sedative that also helps with digestion, muscular and joint pain, and nervous functions)
Ylang ylang (soothing, antidepressant, nervous system tonic; good to lower blood pressure and counter excitability, possibly after trying rose oil and sandalwood oil together Wink)

As for hot beverages, if jasmine tea does not work or warm milk makes you sick, try a valerian root infusion (you may add lemon verbana to it, for taste, but valerian by itself should suffice to knock you out) or a tisane made with catnip and mint. Whereas store-bought, prepackaged herbal teas have no effect on me (except for the diuretic effect SwissKiss mentioned above), these two can be quite efficient... This being said, results vary from person to person, much like sleep patterns and disorders do. Try a few potential solutions if the problem persists and eventually you will find what suits you best. It could actually boil down to exercising more often, taking up yoga and/or meditation, eating differently (or at different times), listening to music, setting aside more quality time for or by yourself away from the rat race (vacation time!), and ridding yourself of negative or work-related thoughts before you go to bed.
 

I used to sleep through anything (even an earthquake once), but nowadays my sleep is much lighter and I sometimes find it very difficult to fall asleep again once something has interrupted my night. My mind starts racing and I just cannot shut my brain off. It has taken many efforts to essentially teach myself how to disconnect completely, and not think about my to-do list or all the life events that can really be dealt with the next day. On most nights now, I use conical foam ear plugs (the bright ones made by Quiès) to help block out ambient noise, including the peaceful breathing of the heavy sleeper next to me in bed, and happily focus my mind on "easy" thoughts. Nothing too demanding -- just light, fun stuff, such as cheerful songs or a favorite classical music piece, movies I have watched recently, hikes I have been on or want to enjoy soon, yummy treats I want to cook or bake the following weekend, etc. I have noticed that concentrating on fictional characters, music or fun actions & places -- instead of people I know in real life -- helps a lot. When I cannot link individual, familiar faces to given events or specific discussions, I do not trigger any sleep-disturbing thoughts (unpleasant or not) and therefore manage to effectively and efficiently escape from my daily routine before drifting away. That is apparently the key to a restful night for me...   
 

What I do not recommend is turning on the television or jumping online, as you apparently did yesterday. At night, turning off electronic devices and giving your eyes & brain some rest away from screens is a must! I really enjoy dim lights (in the morning, too!) and quiet environments in general. Our senses are assaulted all day long and we are hyperstimulated even when we do not realize it, so take control where you can once you get home. Opt for candles, relaxed conversations with your husband, and so on -- no harsh stimuli for at least 30-45 minutes before bedtime!  
 
Another harmful approach is trying to force your body to re-adapt to "normal" hours by staying up for over 24 hours and tricking it into a supposedly more functional rhythm. This will mess up your cycle even more... Try to make sure your bedtime (whatever it may be) is focused on actually winding down and finding good-quality, peaceful sleep. Do not concentrate on the fact that you cannot fall asleep "yet again", or else you will end up getting upset and an episode of sleeplessness (transient insomnia) may very well turn into a short-term problem (acute insomnia) and then chronic insomnia (lasting for more than a month) with all the crippling functional impairments it brings while you are awake (incl. hallucinations and extreme muscular fatigue).
 
This takes me back to your first sentence re: "a bad case of insomnia". Have you been officially diagnosed with primary or secondary insomnia, or are you using the word because your inability to fall or stay asleep is bothering you? Poor sleep quality is not the same as insomnia, and it can be caused by a variety of factors: sleep apnea, depression, restless leg syndrome, hormone shifts, poor sleep hygiene (e.g., if you live in a noisy environment), parasomnias, etc. Sleep-onset insomnia (i.e., inability to fall asleep when you go to bed) is often related to anxiety disorders and it is different from delayed sleep phase disorder; you probably cannot tell which is which, but a (good) physician will know the difference. Middle-of-the-night insomnia, on the other hand, can be a symptom of an illness or pain disorder that would require professional attention. Terminal insomnia (i.e., end-of-sleep-cycle insomnia) is usually linked to clinical depression...
 
Insomnia is often misdiagnosed, and very often comorbid with other psychological or mental disorders, physical conditions, and even subjective issues you may not be aware of at all. Whatever your case may be, there are multiple treatment courses that require neither drinking liters and liters of herbal tea nor taking habit-forming medication. The last thing you need is to become hooked on prescription sleep aids! Just try some natural approaches first in order to determine what works for you.      
 
On that note, one last piece of friendly advice -- if this problem continues, go to a sleep clinic (a.k.a. sleep lab or sleep center) if you wish to (1) know more about why you cannot sleep soundly or long enough and (2) get some professional guidance on how to overcome your sleep disorder. They will be happy to have a new guinea pig and you will come out of there with answers and (hopefully) peace of mind. You may learn a lot about yourself in the process and your body & soul will be grateful when you can finally sleep well. Typically you have to stay overnight so they can properly observe you and analyze your sleep cycle, disruptions and so on, but it is definitely worth your time!
 
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Maria, I suggest you watch Brad Anderson's "The Machinist" (2004). While it is not the kind of film that is going to put you to sleep, it will most likely make you seriously ponder the causes and consequences of chronic insomnia. It is a great drama (with an outstanding performance by a barely recognizable Christian Bale) and certainly more enjoyable than Chris Nolan's 2002 (questionable) remake of "Insomnia". The latter may induce sleep, however, so don't rule it out!


As far as home remedies are concerned, lavender essential oil can work wonders (I use a lavender-vanilla blend that is simply irresistible on any restless night). Stress-related conditions, including occasional sleeplessness and insomnia, can respond very well to aromatherapy. You just need to make sure that you use pure essential oils, not merely scented oils... Aromatherapy is not junk science or a silly grandma recipe; it just works!


You can prepare an inhalation and enjoy it for 10 minutes prior to going to bed. You may also use a few drops of a given oil or blend several oils in a hot bath and relax, then go to bed with a peaceful mind – for me, that does not work because I am wide awake again by the time I have dried off, cleaned the tub (the oily residue can be dangerous for the next user), and made it back to the bedroom...


I prefer using essential oils for skin application (e.g., massage, chest rub). The oil or oil blend must be diluted in a vegetable carrier oil (though lavender, tea tree, and ravensara essential oils may be applied directly to the skin, in small doses only). For a good base oil, I recommend sweet almond oil, preferably pressed from raw almond kernels with a natural expeller, which is very rich in vitamins and fatty acids (amongst others) and just wonderful for your skin. Another great option – especially for sensitive, inflamed, and more mature skins – is apricot kernel oil. It is full of oleic and linoleic acids, essential fatty acids, and vitamins A & E... Use 7 to 10 drops of essential oil for 25mL (app. 5 teaspoons) of carrier oil and massage onto your temples, forehead, neck, shoulders, and chest.


Pure essential oils that can help you de-stress and sleep better include: 



Roman chamomile oil + geranium oil in a bath + a nice cup of chamomile tea (infusion, really – a great, gentle sedative) / Do not use chamomile if you are taking certain meds (such as blood thinners) or if you are allergic to ragweed!


Lavender, neroli, sweet marjoram, rose: can be used in your bathwater, too (individually)

On your sheets and inside your pillowcases (NB: spray onto dryer sheets or a handkerchief first), you can try the following:



Benzoin resin or frankincense (useful to fight sleeplessness caused by worry, emotional exhaustion, and tension)
German or Roman chamomile (to calm nerves & stomach and induce sleep)
Jasmine (very relaxing and soothing, sedative, antidepressant, aphrodisiac –won’t help you sleep much–, and expectorant) – I’m with Charlie re: jasmine tea!
Lavender (calming, soothing to nerves & digestion, anti-depressant, great pain-reliever if you have anything from a headache to an earache or stomach cramps, good to lower blood pressure)
Melissa (relaxing, natural mood upper, efficient to counter anxiety and lower blood pressure, helps with digestion, menstrual cramps, and indigestion)
Neroli (very relaxing, useful against insomnia caused by anxiety, depression, irritability, panic, shock)
Rose (relaxing and soothing, nervous & digestive tonic, but it is also an aphrodisiac so use sparingly unless there is a sex drive issue at stake, too)
Sandalwood (relaxing, aphrodisiac, antidepressant, expectorant, digestive effect)
Sweet marjoram (warming and comforting, great sedative that also helps with digestion, muscular and joint pain, and nervous functions)
Ylang ylang (soothing, antidepressant, nervous system tonic; good to lower blood pressure and counter excitability, possibly after trying rose oil and sandalwood oil together Wink)

As for hot beverages, if jasmine tea does not work or warm milk makes you sick, try a valerian root infusion (you may add lemon verbana to it, for taste, but valerian by itself should suffice to knock you out) or a tisane made with catnip and mint. Whereas store-bought, prepackaged herbal teas have no effect on me (except for the diuretic effect SwissKiss mentioned above), these two can be quite efficient... This being said, results vary from person to person, much like sleep patterns and disorders do. Try a few potential solutions if the problem persists and eventually you will find what suits you best. It could actually boil down to exercising more often, taking up yoga and/or meditation, eating differently (or at different times), listening to music, setting aside more quality time for or by yourself away from the rat race (vacation time!), and ridding yourself of negative or work-related thoughts before you go to bed.
 

I used to sleep through anything (even an earthquake once), but nowadays my sleep is much lighter and I sometimes find it very difficult to fall asleep again once something has interrupted my night. My mind starts racing and I just cannot shut my brain off. It has taken many efforts to essentially teach myself how to disconnect completely, and not think about my to-do list or all the life events that can really be dealt with the next day. On most nights now, I use conical foam ear plugs (the bright ones made by Quiès) to help block out ambient noise, including the peaceful breathing of the heavy sleeper next to me in bed, and happily focus my mind on "easy" thoughts. Nothing too demanding -- just light, fun stuff, such as cheerful songs or a favorite classical music piece, movies I have watched recently, hikes I have been on or want to enjoy soon, yummy treats I want to cook or bake the following weekend, etc. I have noticed that concentrating on fictional characters, music or fun actions & places -- instead of people I know in real life -- helps a lot. When I cannot link individual, familiar faces to given events or specific discussions, I do not trigger any sleep-disturbing thoughts (unpleasant or not) and therefore manage to effectively and efficiently escape from my daily routine before drifting away. That is apparently the key to a restful night for me...   
 

What I do not recommend is turning on the television or jumping online, as you apparently did yesterday. At night, turning off electronic devices and giving your eyes & brain some rest away from screens is a must! I really enjoy dim lights (in the morning, too!) and quiet environments in general. Our senses are assaulted all day long and we are hyperstimulated even when we do not realize it, so take control where you can once you get home. Opt for candles, relaxed conversations with your husband, and so on -- no harsh stimuli for at least 30-45 minutes before bedtime!  
 
Another harmful approach is trying to force your body to re-adapt to "normal" hours by staying up for over 24 hours and tricking it into a supposedly more functional rhythm. This will mess up your cycle even more... Try to make sure your bedtime (whatever it may be) is focused on actually winding down and finding good-quality, peaceful sleep. Do not concentrate on the fact that you cannot fall asleep "yet again", or else you will end up getting upset and an episode of sleeplessness (transient insomnia) may very well turn into a short-term problem (acute insomnia) and then chronic insomnia (lasting for more than a month) with all the crippling functional impairments it brings while you are awake (incl. hallucinations and extreme muscular fatigue).
 
This takes me back to your first sentence re: "a bad case of insomnia". Have you been officially diagnosed with primary or secondary insomnia, or are you using the word because your inability to fall or stay asleep is bothering you? Poor sleep quality is not the same as insomnia, and it can be caused by a variety of factors: sleep apnea, depression, restless leg syndrome, hormone shifts, poor sleep hygiene (e.g., if you live in a noisy environment), parasomnias, etc. Sleep-onset insomnia (i.e., inability to fall asleep when you go to bed) is often related to anxiety disorders and it is different from delayed sleep phase disorder; you probably cannot tell which is which, but a (good) physician will know the difference. Middle-of-the-night insomnia, on the other hand, can be a symptom of an illness or pain disorder that would require professional attention. Terminal insomnia (i.e., end-of-sleep-cycle insomnia) is usually linked to clinical depression...
 
Insomnia is often misdiagnosed, and very often comorbid with other psychological or mental disorders, physical conditions, and even subjective issues you may not be aware of at all. Whatever your case may be, there are multiple treatment courses that require neither drinking liters and liters of herbal tea nor taking habit-forming medication. The last thing you need is to become hooked on prescription sleep aids! Just try some natural approaches first in order to determine what works for you.      
 
On that note, one last piece of friendly advice -- if this problem continues, go to a sleep clinic (a.k.a. sleep lab or sleep center) if you wish to (1) know more about why you cannot sleep soundly or long enough and (2) get some professional guidance on how to overcome your sleep disorder. They will be happy to have a new guinea pig and you will come out of there with answers and (hopefully) peace of mind. You may learn a lot about yourself in the process and your body & soul will be grateful when you can finally sleep well. Typically you have to stay overnight so they can properly observe you and analyze your sleep cycle, disruptions and so on, but it is definitely worth your time!
 
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Via ferrata. That's an awesome cure that will get you to sleep. You'll be so afraid and terrified that your level of exhaustion will guarantee sleep within minutes of getting home, in time for sleep before that 5am shift. :-)


Oct 29, 12 10:26

Exactly! Sometimes all you need is a new kind of exercise or a simple schedule shift. Go outdoors more if you are used to an indoor gym. Walk up and down the Salève instead of run-walking by the lake. Start jogging or running in the morning instead of going during your lunch break or after work. Give Bikram yoga or Pilates a try when you need something different. Go train with a friend rather than your usual self... The possibilities are endless! In any case, my advice to alter your daily routine, including your sleeplessness, is always this:



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Exactly! Sometimes all you need is a new kind of exercise or a simple schedule shift. Go outdoors more if you are used to an indoor gym. Walk up and down the Salève instead of run-walking by the lake. Start jogging or running in the morning instead of going during your lunch break or after work. Give Bikram yoga or Pilates a try when you need something different. Go train with a friend rather than your usual self... The possibilities are endless! In any case, my advice to alter your daily routine, including your sleeplessness, is always this:


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@Cecile: Nice post thanks for taking the time to write it. The reason i cant sleep is because my work hours is so messed up but this wont change. I know there is no medical cause for it and im not anxious or anything. I just cant sleep and it pisses me off! As for exersise, good idea but at 4am in the winter? Dont think so. Plus i hate exersise so i just wont do it. I didnt know about jasmine tea. I will try it next time thanks :) And i know about the dont watch tv/internet rule. I wasnt in bed when i started the topic. In fact i absolutely refuse to allow a TV in the bedroom even if some people say it helps you sleep. If all fails i will wake up OH and make him give me an essential oil massage :) Marriage duties you know :P


@Richard. Im not going up there again! Once was more than enough thank you!

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@Cecile: Nice post thanks for taking the time to write it. The reason i cant sleep is because my work hours is so messed up but this wont change. I know there is no medical cause for it and im not anxious or anything. I just cant sleep and it pisses me off! As for exersise, good idea but at 4am in the winter? Dont think so. Plus i hate exersise so i just wont do it. I didnt know about jasmine tea. I will try it next time thanks :) And i know about the dont watch tv/internet rule. I wasnt in bed when i started the topic. In fact i absolutely refuse to allow a TV in the bedroom even if some people say it helps you sleep. If all fails i will wake up OH and make him give me an essential oil massage :) Marriage duties you know :P


@Richard. Im not going up there again! Once was more than enough thank you!


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Ha! The suggestion re: regular or more intense exercise is for daytime hours! It really does help you fall asleep at night, however screwed up your hours may be. I do not always enjoy it, but it works very well...


My sleep pattern got totally messed up a few years ago because of my work hours and the trips I kept taking around the world, so I empathize. Jet-lag and heavy responsibilities don't go well with long, restful nights. I was sleepless for months! Just tell yourself that you must never forget what truly matters at the end of the day, and that is YOU. If you are not sleeping and getting that much needed rest & peace of mind, you will not be healthy enough to perform well at work or anywhere else in life. It's as simple as that...


Work can take a heavy toll on you, so make sure you do not let it ruin your health. You have noticed the negative impact on your sleep and that is great. Now you have to correct the problem. If you say the work load or hours will not change, then adjust to them creatively, in a healthier fashion. Step back, disconnect if you can, and you will gain a different perspective. Start off with some aromatherapy and quality time with your husband in the evening. If his loving hands, a few candles, and some good essential oils don't do the trick, we can talk again! :) 

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Ha! The suggestion re: regular or more intense exercise is for daytime hours! It really does help you fall asleep at night, however screwed up your hours may be. I do not always enjoy it, but it works very well...


My sleep pattern got totally messed up a few years ago because of my work hours and the trips I kept taking around the world, so I empathize. Jet-lag and heavy responsibilities don't go well with long, restful nights. I was sleepless for months! Just tell yourself that you must never forget what truly matters at the end of the day, and that is YOU. If you are not sleeping and getting that much needed rest & peace of mind, you will not be healthy enough to perform well at work or anywhere else in life. It's as simple as that...


Work can take a heavy toll on you, so make sure you do not let it ruin your health. You have noticed the negative impact on your sleep and that is great. Now you have to correct the problem. If you say the work load or hours will not change, then adjust to them creatively, in a healthier fashion. Step back, disconnect if you can, and you will gain a different perspective. Start off with some aromatherapy and quality time with your husband in the evening. If his loving hands, a few candles, and some good essential oils don't do the trick, we can talk again! :) 


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He he :) I love my job and im not changing it for the world. I guess im going shopping for massage supplies ;)

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He he :) I love my job and im not changing it for the world. I guess im going shopping for massage supplies ;)


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I agree that it is connected with anxiety or excitement. There is something you cannot stop thinking about.  It could be as simple as worrying you will not wake up in time (solution - 2 alarm clocks)


I read or do a crossword - does not matter what but it make you feel yo are doing something vaguely useful and that in itself is relaxing.  You should not read something work related or which you have to read 

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I agree that it is connected with anxiety or excitement. There is something you cannot stop thinking about.  It could be as simple as worrying you will not wake up in time (solution - 2 alarm clocks)


I read or do a crossword - does not matter what but it make you feel yo are doing something vaguely useful and that in itself is relaxing.  You should not read something work related or which you have to read 


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One word. "sex".


Enuff said.

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One word. "sex".


Enuff said.


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One word. "sex".

Enuff said.


Oct 29, 12 13:34

That works much better for guys, Charlie! Your prefrontal cortex slows down after an orgasm, then serotonin and oxytocin combine to produce a "one-two punch" effect that knocks you out within a few minutes. Women, on the other hand, are usually wide awake after sex, even though we feel like we're floating in the air (assuming everything went well before you passed out)...

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That works much better for guys, Charlie! Your prefrontal cortex slows down after an orgasm, then serotonin and oxytocin combine to produce a "one-two punch" effect that knocks you out within a few minutes. Women, on the other hand, are usually wide awake after sex, even though we feel like we're floating in the air (assuming everything went well before you passed out)...


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Squarts & push-ups till your heart pounds like hell(if suggestion #1 does not work Innocent )

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This:

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Squarts & push-ups till your heart pounds like hell(if suggestion #1 does not work Innocent )


Oct 29, 12 14:30

whats a squart?


 


(Does it require having a spicey curry first?)

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whats a squart?


 


(Does it require having a spicey curry first?)


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That works much better for guys, Charlie! Your prefrontal cortex slows down after an orgasm, then serotonin and oxytocin combine to produce a "one-two punch" effect that knocks you out within a few minutes. Women, on the other hand, are usually wide awake after sex, even though we feel like we're floating in the air (assuming everything went well before you passed out)...


Oct 29, 12 14:38

too long didnt read....

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too long didnt read....


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whats a squart?

 

(Does it require having a spicey curry first?)


Oct 29, 12 14:57

Oopss... The squat is a very artistic squat

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Oopss... The squat is a very artistic squat


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In the "do not try this at home" series -- A doctor ignites dried moxa (mugwort herb) during a traditional Chinese acupuncture treatment to cure headache and insomnia at a hospital in Suining, China



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In the "do not try this at home" series -- A doctor ignites dried moxa (mugwort herb) during a traditional Chinese acupuncture treatment to cure headache and insomnia at a hospital in Suining, China


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Excessive use of LED backlit devices can lead to insomnia. Avoid using smartphones, tablets or computers at least an hour before going to bed. 


http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/249402.php


http://mashable.com/2012/08/30/sleeping-tablets-smartphones/

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Excessive use of LED backlit devices can lead to insomnia. Avoid using smartphones, tablets or computers at least an hour before going to bed. 


http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/249402.php


http://mashable.com/2012/08/30/sleeping-tablets-smartphones/


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How do you sleep with that holy glow around you...must be infuriating

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How do you sleep with that holy glow around you...must be infuriating


Oct 29, 12 16:43

I count...ahem...cows. Tongue out

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I count...ahem...cows. Tongue out


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Warm bath with lavender essential oils to wind down then a good book with poor lighting so your eyes get tired fast...


Put some rich cream on your face for a relaxing moment, drink lemongrass tea with a little sugar, cuddle up to a pet, watch a boring tv program, chat with other insomniacs, have a stiff drink, go for a walk in the cold - the warmth numbs you then...


If all else fails, buy BENOCTEN - a sleep inducing pill you can get in any pharmacy that you don't need a perscription for.


Best of luck!!! Sophie aka Wisdom

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Warm bath with lavender essential oils to wind down then a good book with poor lighting so your eyes get tired fast...


Put some rich cream on your face for a relaxing moment, drink lemongrass tea with a little sugar, cuddle up to a pet, watch a boring tv program, chat with other insomniacs, have a stiff drink, go for a walk in the cold - the warmth numbs you then...


If all else fails, buy BENOCTEN - a sleep inducing pill you can get in any pharmacy that you don't need a perscription for.


Best of luck!!! Sophie aka Wisdom


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Oct 29, 12 15:38

OH my neighbour is like that!! The CREEP only likes to do it between midnight and six a.m., it seems to last HOURS, window wide open! Once I screamed shut up but it happened again.


Also he has different women each time that seem to compete for the best howler in town - the voice changes, neither the rhythm or the level of screaming. THIS GUY IS EITHER ON A MAJOR EGO TRIP or he pays his partners well - I'm really not interested to know...


So the other day I took justice in my own hands and RANG HIS BELL WHILE THEY WERE AT IT...  I THINK I SPOILED THE MOMENTUM, hehehe... Seems they got the message!


AND BEFORE ANYONE DARES TO COMMENT: NO I AM NOT JEALOUS in any way, my husband and I are simply respectful and discreet. AS THE FRENCH SAYING GOES - IT'S THOSE THAT TALK THE MOST THAT DO IT THE LEAST and if this guy wants us to know he's getting some ONCE a week, well I answer: POOR YOU!!!

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OH my neighbour is like that!! The CREEP only likes to do it between midnight and six a.m., it seems to last HOURS, window wide open! Once I screamed shut up but it happened again.


Also he has different women each time that seem to compete for the best howler in town - the voice changes, neither the rhythm or the level of screaming. THIS GUY IS EITHER ON A MAJOR EGO TRIP or he pays his partners well - I'm really not interested to know...


So the other day I took justice in my own hands and RANG HIS BELL WHILE THEY WERE AT IT...  I THINK I SPOILED THE MOMENTUM, hehehe... Seems they got the message!


AND BEFORE ANYONE DARES TO COMMENT: NO I AM NOT JEALOUS in any way, my husband and I are simply respectful and discreet. AS THE FRENCH SAYING GOES - IT'S THOSE THAT TALK THE MOST THAT DO IT THE LEAST and if this guy wants us to know he's getting some ONCE a week, well I answer: POOR YOU!!!


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Excessive use of LED backlit devices can lead to insomnia. Avoid using smartphones, tablets or computers at least an hour before going to bed. 

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/249402.php

http://mashable.com/2012/08/30/sleeping-tablets-smartphones/


Oct 29, 12 16:32

I doubt it. ;-) People have been falling asleep in front of televisions for decades now. Others have fallen asleep on beaches during the day. 

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I doubt it. ;-) People have been falling asleep in front of televisions for decades now. Others have fallen asleep on beaches during the day. 


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I doubt it. ;-) People have been falling asleep in front of televisions for decades now. Others have fallen asleep on beaches during the day. 


Oct 29, 12 17:54

Falling asleep in front of the TV is a national past time in some countries...


 


The trick is to have a iron grasp hold on the remote control whilst one sleeps....


 

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Falling asleep in front of the TV is a national past time in some countries...


 


The trick is to have a iron grasp hold on the remote control whilst one sleeps....


 


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Falling asleep in front of the TV is a national past time in some countries...

 

The trick is to have a iron grasp hold on the remote control whilst one sleeps....

 


Oct 29, 12 18:30

They invented adverts to wake up viewers... they found that was the only way to keep people attentive... 

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They invented adverts to wake up viewers... they found that was the only way to keep people attentive... 


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They invented adverts to wake up viewers... they found that was the only way to keep people attentive... 


Oct 29, 12 18:34

Absolutely. I've often stay up late to watch adverts. But they spoil it by playing movies in between.

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Absolutely. I've often stay up late to watch adverts. But they spoil it by playing movies in between.


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The reason is, you often think too hard to get sleep and that becomes a barrier. The brain has to be calm to get sleep. When you don't het sleep and if you have to get up early, you get worried, you keep thinking that you are losing your sleeping time.


One possible remedy is stop worrying that you are not able to sleep. Feel relaxed that you are awake. Try it. It might help to feel relaxed and then sleep eventually.

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The reason is, you often think too hard to get sleep and that becomes a barrier. The brain has to be calm to get sleep. When you don't het sleep and if you have to get up early, you get worried, you keep thinking that you are losing your sleeping time.


One possible remedy is stop worrying that you are not able to sleep. Feel relaxed that you are awake. Try it. It might help to feel relaxed and then sleep eventually.


Sudhanshu Shekhar Singh, Oct 29, 2012 @ 20:46
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Absolutely. I've often stay up late to watch adverts. But they spoil it by playing movies in between.


Oct 29, 12 18:36

LOOOL !!!!

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LOOOL !!!!


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i ll take shower :)

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i ll take shower :)


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Like Cecile and Wisdom, I recommend lavender.


We used lavender oil (by Johnson’s & Johnson’s I think…) when our baby couldnt sleep and it proved surprisingly effective.

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Like Cecile and Wisdom, I recommend lavender.


We used lavender oil (by Johnson’s & Johnson’s I think…) when our baby couldnt sleep and it proved surprisingly effective.


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Depends. If I am tired but something is on my mind I take a piece of paper or open a mindmapping program to get whatever I'm thinking about out of my head. I make sure everything I cover every angle of the subject, and then I normally sleep fine.


If I am not tired, then I normally just get up and do something (read, watch a video) for an hour. If there's a reason for me to get up early the next morning, then I may start doing things for the next morning so I save some time later. And I may take a beer/wine/whisky to get sleepy. 

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Depends. If I am tired but something is on my mind I take a piece of paper or open a mindmapping program to get whatever I'm thinking about out of my head. I make sure everything I cover every angle of the subject, and then I normally sleep fine.


If I am not tired, then I normally just get up and do something (read, watch a video) for an hour. If there's a reason for me to get up early the next morning, then I may start doing things for the next morning so I save some time later. And I may take a beer/wine/whisky to get sleepy. 


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