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I am curious as to why new people who coming to work in Geneva want to find a apartment in Geneva. I live in Gland which is only 20 minutes by train to Geneva but 20% cheaper then Geneva rent wise. Its really nice in the canton of Vaud, whether it be Coppet, Nyon, Gland, Rolle or Morge, so why do people insist on living in the centre and pay extorniate prices???

Plus there are advantages to living in the canton of Vaud then Geneva les taxes for starters

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I am curious as to why new people who coming to work in Geneva want to find a apartment in Geneva. I live in Gland which is only 20 minutes by train to Geneva but 20% cheaper then Geneva rent wise. Its really nice in the canton of Vaud, whether it be Coppet, Nyon, Gland, Rolle or Morge, so why do people insist on living in the centre and pay extorniate prices???

Plus there are advantages to living in the canton of Vaud then Geneva les taxes for starters
brummyladOct 24, 2008 @ 11:46

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good question...my theory is:

a) the price of convenience for living in the center

b) no car required if you don't live out in the burbs

c) it's closer to work. you can roll out of bed :)

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good question...my theory is:

a) the price of convenience for living in the center

b) no car required if you don't live out in the burbs

c) it's closer to work. you can roll out of bed :)
YouMeCo, Oct 24, 2008 @ 12:08

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Hiya which is fair enough but then i ask, depending on how much you earning be much cheaper to live on the outskirts and get a train pass, which allows you to go anywhere ins witzerland like the one i have, at least then you get the chance to visit other areas

But i see your point

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Hiya which is fair enough but then i ask, depending on how much you earning be much cheaper to live on the outskirts and get a train pass, which allows you to go anywhere ins witzerland like the one i have, at least then you get the chance to visit other areas

But i see your point
brummylad, Oct 24, 2008 @ 12:22

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Some of the reasons that come to mind (and the reason why I still live in Geneva) – bear in mind that I love Nyon and work there …

-          Because most expats don’t have many friends when they move here, so living in a quiet but not central and not very lively little village might not be the preferred choice to re-create ones social circle from scratch

-          Because not everyone has a car or likes to drive after going out in the evening and public transportation is amazing within the city (and for emergency cases taxis are almost affordable)

-          Because Geneva is so small that unlike some other cities you can get the international environment without the 30-40mints or 1h commute in morning traffic to work. And people gets spoiled. So while commuting for 45mints might be perfectly normal in Paris, once you realize how nice and close everything is in Geneva, you might want to live somewhere not more then 20mits from work (yes I know, spoilt expat !!!) L

-          Because when you don’t speak the local language is nice to live somewhere where there’s plenty of expats and people in the shop are used to speak English (I know that in Nyon the situation is the same, but nevertheless, it’s a small town and I think most expats will assume that living there without speaking 1 word of French might not be the easiest)

-          Did I say already because of not wanting to drive? If I’d have to get the car everytime I want to go for a impromptu drink after work with my friends … I doubt I’ll go out very often (I already don’t go out as much as before since I started working in Nyon and commute back with the train ….)

On the other end I think that once you speak French, know the local culture a bit more, and have enough money to pay a taxi back to Rolle on Saturday evenings if you happen to not be able to drive … or have enough friends in Geneva where you can crash … moving out of town is really the best option J

 

Hope this answer at least part of your curiosity

Vale

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Some of the reasons that come to mind (and the reason why I still live in Geneva) – bear in mind that I love Nyon and work there …

-          Because most expats don’t have many friends when they move here, so living in a quiet but not central and not very lively little village might not be the preferred choice to re-create ones social circle from scratch

-          Because not everyone has a car or likes to drive after going out in the evening and public transportation is amazing within the city (and for emergency cases taxis are almost affordable)

-          Because Geneva is so small that unlike some other cities you can get the international environment without the 30-40mints or 1h commute in morning traffic to work. And people gets spoiled. So while commuting for 45mints might be perfectly normal in Paris, once you realize how nice and close everything is in Geneva, you might want to live somewhere not more then 20mits from work (yes I know, spoilt expat !!!) L

-          Because when you don’t speak the local language is nice to live somewhere where there’s plenty of expats and people in the shop are used to speak English (I know that in Nyon the situation is the same, but nevertheless, it’s a small town and I think most expats will assume that living there without speaking 1 word of French might not be the easiest)

-          Did I say already because of not wanting to drive? If I’d have to get the car everytime I want to go for a impromptu drink after work with my friends … I doubt I’ll go out very often (I already don’t go out as much as before since I started working in Nyon and commute back with the train ….)

On the other end I think that once you speak French, know the local culture a bit more, and have enough money to pay a taxi back to Rolle on Saturday evenings if you happen to not be able to drive … or have enough friends in Geneva where you can crash … moving out of town is really the best option J

 

Hope this answer at least part of your curiosity

Vale
Hoiling, Oct 24, 2008 @ 12:31

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I thought on a B permit, we are only allowed to live in Canton of Geneva, if you work in Geneva!!! Is that true?
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I thought on a B permit, we are only allowed to live in Canton of Geneva, if you work in Geneva!!! Is that true?
Tony_datone, Oct 24, 2008 @ 12:55
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not that I am aware of, thou it might depend on your country of origin? In theory you should reside in the canton where you work when you have a permit B, to avoid people working in Geneva claiming to live in Bern or Zug for tax reasons, BUT if it's a neighbouring canton and it's considered a reasonable commute (or you have family reasons to want to live say in bern while living in Geneva) .. then you can get your permit from wherever canton (at least if you are an EU national).

Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Vale

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not that I am aware of, thou it might depend on your country of origin? In theory you should reside in the canton where you work when you have a permit B, to avoid people working in Geneva claiming to live in Bern or Zug for tax reasons, BUT if it's a neighbouring canton and it's considered a reasonable commute (or you have family reasons to want to live say in bern while living in Geneva) .. then you can get your permit from wherever canton (at least if you are an EU national).

Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Vale
Hoiling, Oct 24, 2008 @ 13:07

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With a B permit you can live anywhere in Switzerland, that is my understanding, unless it says on there that you can only work for the company you are with at the moment, i live in Gland and have a B permit which allows me to work for any company in Switzerland, so you dont need to live exclusively within Geneva

Hope this helps

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With a B permit you can live anywhere in Switzerland, that is my understanding, unless it says on there that you can only work for the company you are with at the moment, i live in Gland and have a B permit which allows me to work for any company in Switzerland, so you dont need to live exclusively within Geneva

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brummylad, Oct 24, 2008 @ 13:14

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True, on the other hand if you choose to live (have your residence) let's say in Zug - for tax reasone while working in Geneva and subrent or stay in hotels or something ... you might have some problems with the cantonal office, so that's why they may ask where is your job based before issuing the B permit in a certain canton.

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True, on the other hand if you choose to live (have your residence) let's say in Zug - for tax reasone while working in Geneva and subrent or stay in hotels or something ... you might have some problems with the cantonal office, so that's why they may ask where is your job based before issuing the B permit in a certain canton.

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Hoiling, Oct 24, 2008 @ 13:27

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Come on, dude, you know what VD stands for right? It ain't something you get voluntarily!
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Come on, dude, you know what VD stands for right? It ain't something you get voluntarily!
hayes, Oct 24, 2008 @ 14:57
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Hi,

Agree with all the reasons stated as to why i wouldn't live outside Geneva...but to answer the question on the permit....

You can live anywhere in Geneva/vaud when you arrive here, but as far as I can remember, if you arrive in CH and settle in one canton, ie. VD, and 2 years later, you decide to move to the canton of GE...the accumulated years on your B ermit towards your C permit get scrapped and you start all over (this is so for any living address switch for any cantons in CH).

having said this, it is ...(any switch of cantons is like this...whether it's from ZH to GE, from what I understood).... so it is wisest to first establish where you want to live (regardless of where you work) so that the accumulated years one needs to get a B permit transferred to a C permit are taken into account. 

Hope this helps,

cheers

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Hi,

Agree with all the reasons stated as to why i wouldn't live outside Geneva...but to answer the question on the permit....

You can live anywhere in Geneva/vaud when you arrive here, but as far as I can remember, if you arrive in CH and settle in one canton, ie. VD, and 2 years later, you decide to move to the canton of GE...the accumulated years on your B ermit towards your C permit get scrapped and you start all over (this is so for any living address switch for any cantons in CH).

having said this, it is ...(any switch of cantons is like this...whether it's from ZH to GE, from what I understood).... so it is wisest to first establish where you want to live (regardless of where you work) so that the accumulated years one needs to get a B permit transferred to a C permit are taken into account. 

Hope this helps,

cheers
divagirl, Oct 24, 2008 @ 16:25

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[one of the reasons I want to live in Geneva is because I dont have a car etc and so wonder how to get home at night after a night out when it is late etc etc.....  I am looking for somewhere to live now, and am tempted to look into living outside of geneva but am apprehensive at it taking so long to travel in and out to see people and get to work.....

What's it like?  ;)

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[one of the reasons I want to live in Geneva is because I dont have a car etc and so wonder how to get home at night after a night out when it is late etc etc.....  I am looking for somewhere to live now, and am tempted to look into living outside of geneva but am apprehensive at it taking so long to travel in and out to see people and get to work.....

What's it like?  ;)
SiobhanC, Oct 24, 2008 @ 18:36

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CDN Sarah, Thank you,s oemone who can back me up, with regards to your train pass i pay 285chf for mine but it allows me to use any form of public transport anywhere in switzerland, so if you didnt want to drive to say Zurich or basle, its a much better pass to get as i dont drive its well worth it

For me door to door i can get from home to office near the airport in 40 mins which is nothing compared to what i had to do when i was in the UK

I admit for ladies its safety first but places like Gland are perfectly safe

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CDN Sarah, Thank you,s oemone who can back me up, with regards to your train pass i pay 285chf for mine but it allows me to use any form of public transport anywhere in switzerland, so if you didnt want to drive to say Zurich or basle, its a much better pass to get as i dont drive its well worth it

For me door to door i can get from home to office near the airport in 40 mins which is nothing compared to what i had to do when i was in the UK

I admit for ladies its safety first but places like Gland are perfectly safe
brummylad, Oct 25, 2008 @ 15:45

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