I am a non-national planning on moving to Switzerland this week, hopefully to have my eu national partner join me later, how do I go about getting a permit and looking for work. I speak english, french and spanish, experienced in travel, shipping logistics, airport work etc. How do I start out settling there? Thanks Luvshared |
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Nov 11, 2008 @ 12:42
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I am a non-national planning on moving to Switzerland this week, hopefully to have my eu national partner join me later, how do I go about getting a permit and looking for work. I speak english, french and spanish, experienced in travel, shipping logistics, airport work etc. How do I start out settling there? Thanks Luvshared |
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Nov 13, 2008 @ 15:49
well, if you're not an EU citizen and haven't already been promised work, good luck to you! as everyone knows, finding a job in GVA is like a long quest filled with many dangers and traps, unless you work in the financial field - and then again, maybe not the best time (although amazingly, I saw in the paper yesterday that HSBC was looking for people)!
the easiest would probably be to officially 'settle' in nearby France, which would make you eligible for a G permit - the one that people who cross the border to work everyday, have.
hope this helps
the easiest would probably be to officially 'settle' in nearby France, which would make you eligible for a G permit - the one that people who cross the border to work everyday, have.
hope this helps
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well, if you're not an EU citizen and haven't already been promised work, good luck to you! as everyone knows, finding a job in GVA is like a long quest filled with many dangers and traps, unless you work in the financial field - and then again, maybe not the best time (although amazingly, I saw in the paper yesterday that HSBC was looking for people)!
the easiest would probably be to officially 'settle' in nearby France, which would make you eligible for a G permit - the one that people who cross the border to work everyday, have.
hope this helps
Minda, Nov 13, 2008 @ 15:49
the easiest would probably be to officially 'settle' in nearby France, which would make you eligible for a G permit - the one that people who cross the border to work everyday, have.
hope this helps
Minda, Nov 13, 2008 @ 15:49
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Nov 13, 2008 @ 16:15
I must say I hadn't forseen any dangers or traps, thought this was a fairly decent and peaceful place, don't get me wrong, no place is totally safe. What are the possible traps? I speak english, french and spanish, so thought this would be a great place to settle without the many restrictions. I'm travelling with my british fiance, does that make a difference?
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I must say I hadn't forseen any dangers or traps, thought this was a fairly decent and peaceful place, don't get me wrong, no place is totally safe. What are the possible traps? I speak english, french and spanish, so thought this would be a great place to settle without the many restrictions. I'm travelling with my british fiance, does that make a difference?
luvshared, Nov 13, 2008 @ 16:15
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Nov 13, 2008 @ 16:45
:D sarah is right Luvshared, don't mean to discourage you, but it is indeed VERY difficult to find a job here without work-permit for Non-EU.. Good luck anyways..
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:D sarah is right Luvshared, don't mean to discourage you, but it is indeed VERY difficult to find a job here without work-permit for Non-EU.. Good luck anyways..
Rasputin, Nov 13, 2008 @ 16:45
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Nov 13, 2008 @ 16:46
there should have been a quote of queen of england before that smile Emoticon. Don't know why i can never get these quotes show up...
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there should have been a quote of queen of england before that smile Emoticon. Don't know why i can never get these quotes show up...
Rasputin, Nov 13, 2008 @ 16:46
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Nov 13, 2008 @ 22:04
[quote]I must say Ihadn't forseen any dangers or traps, thought this was a fairly decent and peaceful place, don't get me wrong, no place is totally safe. What are the possible traps? I speak english, french and spanish, so thought this would be a great place to settle without the many restrictions. I'm travelling with my british fiance, does that make a difference?
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sorry, that was a figure of speech relating to the quest. got a bit carried away, i guess... :hehe: i didn't mean there'd be any dangers.
speaking lots of languages is great - welcome to a city where half the population speaks more than 3... your fiance will probably get a permit without too much trouble...
good luck!
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sorry, that was a figure of speech relating to the quest. got a bit carried away, i guess... :hehe: i didn't mean there'd be any dangers.
speaking lots of languages is great - welcome to a city where half the population speaks more than 3... your fiance will probably get a permit without too much trouble...
good luck!
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[quote]I must say Ihadn't forseen any dangers or traps, thought this was a fairly decent and peaceful place, don't get me wrong, no place is totally safe. What are the possible traps? I speak english, french and spanish, so thought this would be a great place to settle without the many restrictions. I'm travelling with my british fiance, does that make a difference?
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sorry, that was a figure of speech relating to the quest. got a bit carried away, i guess... :hehe: i didn't mean there'd be any dangers.
speaking lots of languages is great - welcome to a city where half the population speaks more than 3... your fiance will probably get a permit without too much trouble...
good luck!
Minda, Nov 13, 2008 @ 22:04
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sorry, that was a figure of speech relating to the quest. got a bit carried away, i guess... :hehe: i didn't mean there'd be any dangers.
speaking lots of languages is great - welcome to a city where half the population speaks more than 3... your fiance will probably get a permit without too much trouble...
good luck!
Minda, Nov 13, 2008 @ 22:04
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Nov 14, 2008 @ 12:10
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Nov 17, 2008 @ 07:18
hi minda,
first of all thanks for the useful tips-appreciate ur contributions in ths forum ! ...even i from India,have been planning to get in switz but dont have the hint as to how to get the permits for residence along wth a work. U say France wld be another option in priliminaries 4 getting in b4 swiss, but i still am left in the same dark space-how do i get jobs in france/swiss ? ....can anybody help me out with sme more tips/sites/references ? ...i'm having a working expertise in sales.
arpan
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hi minda,
first of all thanks for the useful tips-appreciate ur contributions in ths forum ! ...even i from India,have been planning to get in switz but dont have the hint as to how to get the permits for residence along wth a work. U say France wld be another option in priliminaries 4 getting in b4 swiss, but i still am left in the same dark space-how do i get jobs in france/swiss ? ....can anybody help me out with sme more tips/sites/references ? ...i'm having a working expertise in sales.
arpan
arpan, Nov 17, 2008 @ 07:18
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Nov 19, 2008 @ 14:39
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hi minda,
first of all thanks for the useful tips-appreciate ur contributions in ths forum! ...even i from India,have been planning to get in switz but dont have the hint as to how to get the permits for residence along wth a work. U say France wld be another option in priliminaries 4 getting in b4 swiss, but i still am left in the same dark space-how do i get jobs in france/swiss ? ....can anybody help me out with sme more tips/sites/references? ...i'mhaving a working expertise in sales.
arpan[/quote]
Hi Arpan,
I think this has all been answered before, if you search the forum. But here goes :
some job sites : jobup.ch, jobpilot.ch, monster.ch
The bottom line for a non swiss and non-EU national is that their prospective (swiss) employer has to sponsor a work permit. So you not only have to be a 'good hire' but also someone with skills, qualifications or experience which the employer can PROVE are not available on the local job market.
So the bad news for you, is that there are lots of people in Europe that can sell. The possible good news is that the economic emergence of India might mean that your language or cultural skills could be valuable, for businesses with Indian connections. If I were you I would start with the Indian Swiss Chamber of Commerce (or rather, their members).
As far as having a partner who is an EU national is concerned, logically you have to be married or at least be in a civil union, to benefit from the same rights as them.
Hope it helps
Phillip
hi minda,
first of all thanks for the useful tips-appreciate ur contributions in ths forum! ...even i from India,have been planning to get in switz but dont have the hint as to how to get the permits for residence along wth a work. U say France wld be another option in priliminaries 4 getting in b4 swiss, but i still am left in the same dark space-how do i get jobs in france/swiss ? ....can anybody help me out with sme more tips/sites/references? ...i'mhaving a working expertise in sales.
arpan[/quote]
Hi Arpan,
I think this has all been answered before, if you search the forum. But here goes :
some job sites : jobup.ch, jobpilot.ch, monster.ch
The bottom line for a non swiss and non-EU national is that their prospective (swiss) employer has to sponsor a work permit. So you not only have to be a 'good hire' but also someone with skills, qualifications or experience which the employer can PROVE are not available on the local job market.
So the bad news for you, is that there are lots of people in Europe that can sell. The possible good news is that the economic emergence of India might mean that your language or cultural skills could be valuable, for businesses with Indian connections. If I were you I would start with the Indian Swiss Chamber of Commerce (or rather, their members).
As far as having a partner who is an EU national is concerned, logically you have to be married or at least be in a civil union, to benefit from the same rights as them.
Hope it helps
Phillip
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hi minda,
first of all thanks for the useful tips-appreciate ur contributions in ths forum! ...even i from India,have been planning to get in switz but dont have the hint as to how to get the permits for residence along wth a work. U say France wld be another option in priliminaries 4 getting in b4 swiss, but i still am left in the same dark space-how do i get jobs in france/swiss ? ....can anybody help me out with sme more tips/sites/references? ...i'mhaving a working expertise in sales.
arpan[/quote]
Hi Arpan,
I think this has all been answered before, if you search the forum. But here goes :
some job sites : jobup.ch, jobpilot.ch, monster.ch
The bottom line for a non swiss and non-EU national is that their prospective (swiss) employer has to sponsor a work permit. So you not only have to be a 'good hire' but also someone with skills, qualifications or experience which the employer can PROVE are not available on the local job market.
So the bad news for you, is that there are lots of people in Europe that can sell. The possible good news is that the economic emergence of India might mean that your language or cultural skills could be valuable, for businesses with Indian connections. If I were you I would start with the Indian Swiss Chamber of Commerce (or rather, their members).
As far as having a partner who is an EU national is concerned, logically you have to be married or at least be in a civil union, to benefit from the same rights as them.
Hope it helps
Phillip
wilycoyote, Nov 19, 2008 @ 14:39
hi minda,
first of all thanks for the useful tips-appreciate ur contributions in ths forum! ...even i from India,have been planning to get in switz but dont have the hint as to how to get the permits for residence along wth a work. U say France wld be another option in priliminaries 4 getting in b4 swiss, but i still am left in the same dark space-how do i get jobs in france/swiss ? ....can anybody help me out with sme more tips/sites/references? ...i'mhaving a working expertise in sales.
arpan[/quote]
Hi Arpan,
I think this has all been answered before, if you search the forum. But here goes :
some job sites : jobup.ch, jobpilot.ch, monster.ch
The bottom line for a non swiss and non-EU national is that their prospective (swiss) employer has to sponsor a work permit. So you not only have to be a 'good hire' but also someone with skills, qualifications or experience which the employer can PROVE are not available on the local job market.
So the bad news for you, is that there are lots of people in Europe that can sell. The possible good news is that the economic emergence of India might mean that your language or cultural skills could be valuable, for businesses with Indian connections. If I were you I would start with the Indian Swiss Chamber of Commerce (or rather, their members).
As far as having a partner who is an EU national is concerned, logically you have to be married or at least be in a civil union, to benefit from the same rights as them.
Hope it helps
Phillip
wilycoyote, Nov 19, 2008 @ 14:39
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Nov 20, 2008 @ 09:23
Not sure if this info will help, but I'm an EU National, been living in Switzerland for 18 months now, I have a Masters Degree in Human Resource Managment and still can't get a job. Fair enough, my French leaves a bit to be desired but it is very, very frustrating.
However, the fact that I'm here with my partner and he had a job to come to made the permit side of things quite simple and we can manage relatively ok.
So, my advice would be to think very carefully about arriving without at least the prospect of a job - as we all know, Switzerland is not exactly the cheapest place in the world to live, albeit one of the most beautiful! :) Search the jobsites and at least set some interviews up if you can before arriving.
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Not sure if this info will help, but I'm an EU National, been living in Switzerland for 18 months now, I have a Masters Degree in Human Resource Managment and still can't get a job. Fair enough, my French leaves a bit to be desired but it is very, very frustrating.
However, the fact that I'm here with my partner and he had a job to come to made the permit side of things quite simple and we can manage relatively ok.
So, my advice would be to think very carefully about arriving without at least the prospect of a job - as we all know, Switzerland is not exactly the cheapest place in the world to live, albeit one of the most beautiful! :) Search the jobsites and at least set some interviews up if you can before arriving.
Debbs, Nov 20, 2008 @ 09:23
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