my sister recently moved into a lovely new appartment in geneva. one problem though. you could punch a hole in her front door it's so flimsy. she asked her regie how much it would cost to get a new one and they brushed her off telling her its too expensive even to think about. i'd say they're afraid if she gets a new door the entire building will want one too. but i don't care about that, does anybody know how much it costs to get a secure front door fitted to an appartment. my sister will be living alone in this appartment and she needs to be secure and safe. any information will be very much appreciated. thank you.
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Dec 2, 2012 @ 12:35
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my sister recently moved into a lovely new appartment in geneva. one problem though. you could punch a hole in her front door it's so flimsy. she asked her regie how much it would cost to get a new one and they brushed her off telling her its too expensive even to think about. i'd say they're afraid if she gets a new door the entire building will want one too. but i don't care about that, does anybody know how much it costs to get a secure front door fitted to an appartment. my sister will be living alone in this appartment and she needs to be secure and safe. any information will be very much appreciated. thank you.
manics1984Dec 2, 2012 @ 12:35
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Dec 2, 2012 @ 14:22
I don't know how much it costs, but I would try asking at Jean Musina S.A. at the Rue de Bale in Paquis (tel. 022-7154090)
They specialize in security and staff is always very helpful.
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I don't know how much it costs, but I would try asking at Jean Musina S.A. at the Rue de Bale in Paquis (tel. 022-7154090)
They specialize in security and staff is always very helpful.
Edward B, Dec 2, 2012 @ 14:22
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Dec 2, 2012 @ 14:35
Perhaps it could simply be reinforced from the inside...
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Dec 2, 2012 @ 15:50
Perhaps it could simply be reinforced from the inside...
Dec 2, 12 14:35
Musina can also help you with that.
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Dec 2, 2012 @ 17:46
thank you Edward for this information
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Dec 2, 2012 @ 18:05
Depending on what the door looks like on the inside (photos would be nice), you could attach (screw) a metal plate to the inside of the door (painted white of course ;-) ). Then you can have installed one of the cross door bars that you anchor into the frame on either side. It is activated by an additional key that goes through the middle of the door.
The idea in any of these cases is to make sure the robbers see that your sister's door is not the normal flimsy one that they can open with just a screw driver or a small hammer. Then they will look else where.
Whatever you do, make sure you have the Regie's approval.
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Depending on what the door looks like on the inside (photos would be nice), you could attach (screw) a metal plate to the inside of the door (painted white of course ;-) ). Then you can have installed one of the cross door bars that you anchor into the frame on either side. It is activated by an additional key that goes through the middle of the door.
The idea in any of these cases is to make sure the robbers see that your sister's door is not the normal flimsy one that they can open with just a screw driver or a small hammer. Then they will look else where.
Whatever you do, make sure you have the Regie's approval.
Verbier, Dec 2, 2012 @ 18:05
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Dec 4, 2012 @ 12:26
Further to Verbier's message it is important you and your sister understand when you decide to modify or replace the existing front door by a new (or refurbished solid ) door, the final renovation will belong to the flat for free unless Regie confirms in writing some lumpsum can be granted by the owner of the flat/building to the tenant.
You/your sister will not be allowed to remove it (security bar or reinforced door) on final day of departure, unless you re-install like it was originally at your own expense. By doing so you renounce to any refund.
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Further to Verbier's message it is important you and your sister understand when you decide to modify or replace the existing front door by a new (or refurbished solid ) door, the final renovation will belong to the flat for free unless Regie confirms in writing some lumpsum can be granted by the owner of the flat/building to the tenant.
You/your sister will not be allowed to remove it (security bar or reinforced door) on final day of departure, unless you re-install like it was originally at your own expense. By doing so you renounce to any refund.
Milord, Dec 4, 2012 @ 12:26
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Dec 4, 2012 @ 12:56
Where to buy a new door ? Check with Hornbach in Etoy, Vaud or in France with Lapeyre Store near SIgny (by Ferney Voltaire) or Annemasse (across the small airport)
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Where to buy a new door ? Check with Hornbach in Etoy, Vaud or in France with Lapeyre Store near SIgny (by Ferney Voltaire) or Annemasse (across the small airport)
Milord, Dec 4, 2012 @ 12:56
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Dec 4, 2012 @ 14:11
@manics, just a few leads for thinking, from experience:
For a "reinforced" front door prepare anywere from 3500 and up (yep this is Switzerland), if you have it done professionally.
Any door you can buy and install yourself is not reinforced (despite manufacturer's claim). Only slightly sturdier than the flimsy cardboard compound. It can be kicked in or through with ease.
Installing an armor behind the original is ineffective. The hinges are still anchored in cardboard..
Installing a reinforced door on a flimsy frame is ineffective too. The entire frame+door can be easily dismantled if it's not solidly anchored to concrete or steel.
Installing safety bars behind the door can be quite deterrent (massive locks are visible from outside).
Mind Verbier and Milord's comments about the regie.
Bottom line: you can do as you wish if you're ready to foot the bill
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@manics, just a few leads for thinking, from experience:
For a "reinforced" front door prepare anywere from 3500 and up (yep this is Switzerland), if you have it done professionally.
Any door you can buy and install yourself is not reinforced (despite manufacturer's claim). Only slightly sturdier than the flimsy cardboard compound. It can be kicked in or through with ease.
Installing an armor behind the original is ineffective. The hinges are still anchored in cardboard..
Installing a reinforced door on a flimsy frame is ineffective too. The entire frame+door can be easily dismantled if it's not solidly anchored to concrete or steel.
Installing safety bars behind the door can be quite deterrent (massive locks are visible from outside).
Mind Verbier and Milord's comments about the regie.
Bottom line: you can do as you wish if you're ready to foot the bill
swisskiss, Dec 4, 2012 @ 14:11
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Dec 4, 2012 @ 15:09
or.....you can buy a "barking dog box" that starts to bark as someone approaches the door. it gets louder and more vicious as the peson gets closer. this can be adjusted on the box. it would most likely disuade any intruders, and does not require feeding.
or walking.
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or.....you can buy a "barking dog box" that starts to bark as someone approaches the door. it gets louder and more vicious as the peson gets closer. this can be adjusted on the box. it would most likely disuade any intruders, and does not require feeding. or walking.
epicure, Dec 4, 2012 @ 15:09
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Dec 4, 2012 @ 15:37
@manics : some of us feel much concerned because they went through bad experience. Consequently, it is wise to see how bad are hinges and door frame quality since most of the times what thieves are looking for is breaking-in fast, within 2-3 minutes max( police says.)as to not let neighbours know a robbery is in progress... .
A good locksmith can install a five-point security lock system and re-enforce beyond the normal frame for the lock housings. Estimating a cost is not reasonable if one does not evaluate the faulty door at first.
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@manics : some of us feel much concerned because they went through bad experience. Consequently, it is wise to see how bad are hinges and door frame quality since most of the times what thieves are looking for is breaking-in fast, within 2-3 minutes max( police says.)as to not let neighbours know a robbery is in progress... .
A good locksmith can install a five-point security lock system and re-enforce beyond the normal frame for the lock housings. Estimating a cost is not reasonable if one does not evaluate the faulty door at first.
Milord, Dec 4, 2012 @ 15:37
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Dec 4, 2012 @ 17:38
Door cross bars (lockable from inside and out) cost around CHF800...
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