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Banking for Americans?

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American here, just arrived Wednesday, trying to attend to the relocation basics, like a bank account. 


I was turned away at the CERN UBS branch this morning, after being informed that increased tax scrutiny has persuaded UBS in particular, and most Swiss banks in general, to simply stop accepting new American customers. 


So what do Americans do here for banking? All I want is a simple deposit account, and maybe a low-limit credit card.


Cheers, Alexander

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Hello - 


American here, just arrived Wednesday, trying to attend to the relocation basics, like a bank account. 


I was turned away at the CERN UBS branch this morning, after being informed that increased tax scrutiny has persuaded UBS in particular, and most Swiss banks in general, to simply stop accepting new American customers. 


So what do Americans do here for banking? All I want is a simple deposit account, and maybe a low-limit credit card.


Cheers, Alexander


Alexander LJun 21, 2013 @ 22:20
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As far as I know, UBS is still accepting Americans as clients.  You need to visit a certain branch to open an account.  I had to go to Lausanne.


Call them at +41 44 234 1111.


 

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As far as I know, UBS is still accepting Americans as clients.  You need to visit a certain branch to open an account.  I had to go to Lausanne.


Call them at +41 44 234 1111.


 


richardm, Jun 21, 2013 @ 22:53
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Otherwise try Postfinance. I'm American and have an account there after initially opening up a UBS account. Postfinance better and less expensive anyway for basic banking.

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Otherwise try Postfinance. I'm American and have an account there after initially opening up a UBS account. Postfinance better and less expensive anyway for basic banking.


eveyansas, Jun 22, 2013 @ 19:08
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I hear the postfinance is ok you just cant get the credit thing until after a year. But you can get the prepaid credit card.

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I hear the postfinance is ok you just cant get the credit thing until after a year. But you can get the prepaid credit card.


Marcy S, Jun 23, 2013 @ 19:42
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Second on Postfinance. I opened an account there during my first week here. I didn't have my official residence permit yet (the card), but a letter from the immigration office that the visa was approved was enough to get the account opened. You can get a letter like this (mine was CHF25) when you go to the city hall to bring your paperwork in.


I also got a low-limit credit card with the account, but they didn't send it to me until I sent them a copy of the official residence permit.

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Second on Postfinance. I opened an account there during my first week here. I didn't have my official residence permit yet (the card), but a letter from the immigration office that the visa was approved was enough to get the account opened. You can get a letter like this (mine was CHF25) when you go to the city hall to bring your paperwork in.


I also got a low-limit credit card with the account, but they didn't send it to me until I sent them a copy of the official residence permit.


Daniel C, Jun 23, 2013 @ 23:43
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I just asked about this at Credit Suisse in Geneva last week. The bank rep told me as long as you have a residence permit you can open an account. No residence permit, no account. 

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I just asked about this at Credit Suisse in Geneva last week. The bank rep told me as long as you have a residence permit you can open an account. No residence permit, no account. 


Carl M, Jun 24, 2013 @ 00:28
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Carl, Credit Suisse is one of the banks that was booting out American clients a while back.  Did they reverse their position?  Did the person giving the information understand the context?

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Carl, Credit Suisse is one of the banks that was booting out American clients a while back.  Did they reverse their position?  Did the person giving the information understand the context?


richardm, Jun 24, 2013 @ 13:39
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UBS has a special unit for US citizens and green card holders.


Banque Cantonale de Geneve seems less "complicated"...(at least I was told)

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UBS has a special unit for US citizens and green card holders.


Banque Cantonale de Geneve seems less "complicated"...(at least I was told)


Jessyca V, Jun 24, 2013 @ 15:58
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I'd also suggest to go for PostFinance. After UBS turned me away (I am not even American, just had to pay US taxes on my US income), I went there and opened an account without any problem. I am quite satisfied, never had to pay any fee so far and the PostFinance card is as good as a credit card as long as you are in Switzerland - and abroad I still have my other cards.


The only drawback is that PostFinance doesn't offer the security deposit account that you need for renting an apartment in Geneva. I eventually got it from BanqueMigros, but they did ask for my citizenship (luckily they stopped bugging me after I told them I am not American).

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I'd also suggest to go for PostFinance. After UBS turned me away (I am not even American, just had to pay US taxes on my US income), I went there and opened an account without any problem. I am quite satisfied, never had to pay any fee so far and the PostFinance card is as good as a credit card as long as you are in Switzerland - and abroad I still have my other cards.


The only drawback is that PostFinance doesn't offer the security deposit account that you need for renting an apartment in Geneva. I eventually got it from BanqueMigros, but they did ask for my citizenship (luckily they stopped bugging me after I told them I am not American).


Monika B, Jun 25, 2013 @ 14:17
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As far as im aware all americans with permanant work contract 'indeterminie' then the banks must open an account for any resident in Switzerland. But they dont have to if you live in France or on a short term contract.


If you have any question or need help see with American Citizens Abroad and they could advise or check out there website.


http://americansabroad.org/


http://americansabroad.org/issues/banking/banking-and-the-patriot-act-update/


 


 


 

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As far as im aware all americans with permanant work contract 'indeterminie' then the banks must open an account for any resident in Switzerland. But they dont have to if you live in France or on a short term contract.


If you have any question or need help see with American Citizens Abroad and they could advise or check out there website.


http://americansabroad.org/


http://americansabroad.org/issues/banking/banking-and-the-patriot-act-update/


 


 


 


Dave G, Jun 25, 2013 @ 20:27
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i will just point out im refering to retail banks and not private banking accounts, ok.

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i will just point out im refering to retail banks and not private banking accounts, ok.


Dave G, Jun 25, 2013 @ 20:34
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I have accounts at La Poste, Credit Suisse, BCGE, UBS, and SwissQuote


Its is easy to open an account if you have a B or C permit

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I have accounts at La Poste, Credit Suisse, BCGE, UBS, and SwissQuote


Its is easy to open an account if you have a B or C permit


Dave G, Jun 25, 2013 @ 20:34
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Wow, thanks to everybody for all of the advice! 


Postfinance is likely to be where I try to turn first. Can a PostFinance account receive international interbank transfers? This is the only banking "feature" I'll nead beyond a simple deposit/withdrawal account.


Cheers, Alexander

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Wow, thanks to everybody for all of the advice! 


Postfinance is likely to be where I try to turn first. Can a PostFinance account receive international interbank transfers? This is the only banking "feature" I'll nead beyond a simple deposit/withdrawal account.


Cheers, Alexander


Alexander L, Jun 25, 2013 @ 23:50
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@Alexander: Yes, you can receive international interbank transfers. Accounts at Postfinance are not really any different from any other bank account, just the license of Postfinance is not the same as any other bank.

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@Alexander: Yes, you can receive international interbank transfers. Accounts at Postfinance are not really any different from any other bank account, just the license of Postfinance is not the same as any other bank.


Alan S, Jun 26, 2013 @ 07:39
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Hello, again - 


I've been reading more on PostFinance accounts. Do i understand correctly that you can make interbank transfers to PostFinance accounts, without being charged a percentage? i.e., you get to transfer foreign currency into a CHF account with PostFinance, at the going interbank rate? Can anybody confirm this or else set me straight?


~ Alexander

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Hello, again - 


I've been reading more on PostFinance accounts. Do i understand correctly that you can make interbank transfers to PostFinance accounts, without being charged a percentage? i.e., you get to transfer foreign currency into a CHF account with PostFinance, at the going interbank rate? Can anybody confirm this or else set me straight?


~ Alexander


Alexander L, Jul 12, 2013 @ 14:14
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https://www.postfinance.ch/en/priv/prod/pay/abroad/inbound.html


Here is the info you're looking for.

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https://www.postfinance.ch/en/priv/prod/pay/abroad/inbound.html


Here is the info you're looking for.


Monika B, Jul 12, 2013 @ 14:23
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Thanks, Monica - 


This was the page I was looking at. What I don't quite understand is the phrase "current forex rate". Is this equivalent to the interbank rate, or is it the interbank rate, plus some percentage chosen by PostFinance? 


Alexander

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Thanks, Monica - 


This was the page I was looking at. What I don't quite understand is the phrase "current forex rate". Is this equivalent to the interbank rate, or is it the interbank rate, plus some percentage chosen by PostFinance? 


Alexander


Alexander L, Jul 12, 2013 @ 14:31
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The foreign exchange market (forex, FX, or currency market) is a global decentralized market for the trading of currencies. The main participants in this market are the larger international banks. from wikipedia


so normal interbank rate

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The foreign exchange market (forex, FX, or currency market) is a global decentralized market for the trading of currencies. The main participants in this market are the larger international banks. from wikipedia


so normal interbank rate


Alan S, Jul 12, 2013 @ 14:42
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