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101 Introduction to Creepology  


Ah, nice. It’s that time of the year in Geneva, my friends. Sunny weekend, almost spring. Families are walking around. The lake is vivid blue. Sky is clear. White mountains. Goofy dogs running around. Happy wide-eyed babies learning to walk head your way and examine you. Couples. People jogging. Perfect Sunday afternoon. It is also the time of another species blooming and reemerging. Creepos. Yes, they are back again, ladies and gents. Creepos take the stage and occupy the lake promenade. So here goes a quick word about creepo deterrence theory and the creep deterrence coefficient.


First of all, let me say that while creepos might be also female, the majority of lake promenade creepos happens to be male – different perspectives welcome. Any lady can become an object of creeping. You may be tall or short, blonde or dark, dressed in a big black jacket reaching you knees with a big hood on, or in a mini-skirt – creepos will creep you out anyways. I guess, what we have to remember is that it is not personal. This being said, however, there are a few factors, which can help us figure out how and under what circumstances creepo behavior is more likely to be deterred. Here is the creep deterrent coefficient, a product of year long studies and research by leading experts in the field.


First, a few quick definitions.


Creepology: the science and study of creepo behavior.


Creepo (latin academic term. Creepo – for male; creepess – for female): The list includes but is not limited to the following behavior. A creepo is anyone who: cat whistles, wishes you ‘bon appétit’ if you’re drinking or eating something (yes, even if you’re just chewing gum), wants to sell you something, as a stranger says hello and asks if you want to have dinner or coffee with him, stops his car and invites you to get in, as a taxi driver asks if he can come upstairs with you after he drops you off and you pay him, starts following you on the street, continues following you even after you tell him to go away, meets you again on the other side of the lake and asks you again hoping you changed your mind, asks you to go to a party with him when he approaches you on the street, as a stranger asks to see your phone just for a second - while you are talking on it, invites you to play the street game with the ball and the three boxes otherwise also known as vegetation counting: ‘One, Two Tree’, follows you by hiding behind buildings and then quickly catches up with the distance until the next building, comes to talk to you while you are stretching at the lake promenade, tries to steal your bag while you are sunbathing at perle du lac, asks for directions but then decides to stay, sits next to you when you are sitting alone on a bench, stops you on the street to ask for directions followed by the sentence: ‘Uhh, can you help me. I am looking for your bedroom’.


That last one - true story. Okay, so here are the factors that make creepos more or less likely to creep.


Creepo deterrence coefficient: number of people around  x  day light x number of other unknown creepo competitors  x  5 times the presence of known male friend  x 2time the number of present known males (divided by:) 2 times number of known creepo colleagues  x  absence of traffick and people  x darkness  x 5 times lack of male presence


The stronger the first line of the equation, the stronger the deterrent effect. Deterrence is lessened by the denominator – in other words, the denominator is what encourages creeping. Note that some factors have a multiplier effect.


The higher the number of non-creepos around and the more day light, the less likely creepo is to approach. There are two exceptions to the number of people around serving as a deterrent  – a crowded public transport vehicle or a crowded club, both of which might have an opposite non-deterrent effect.


When one creepo approaches you at the exact same time as another non-colleage creepo, studies show that the two creepos cancel each other out and both walk away. The reason for this is that they avoid facing humiliation in front of another unknown creepo colleague. However, this holds true if, and only if the creepos are strangers to each other. If they know each other, that fact is a multiplier in the opposite direction ie. you become an object of concerted creepo attack from two sides whereby two creepos wish you bon appétit almost like a duet.


The strongest deterrence factor is the presence of a male accompanying the potential creeping object. Brothers, friends, boyfriends, husbands, fathers and uncles are more than welcome. Their number also increases the deterrence coefficient twofold.


Thanks for the attention, ladies and gents. The study now opens the consultation process, whereby the results and the theory are open to review and criticism.


 


Written by I.C., Chairwoman of the Institute for the Study of Creepology at Lac Leman, Visiting Scholar at Creepo Observatory Bain du Paquis, and Vice President for Policy at ‘Together we can stop creeping’, progressive non-profit organization based in Geneva.

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Creep Deterrence Theory


101 Introduction to Creepology  


Ah, nice. It’s that time of the year in Geneva, my friends. Sunny weekend, almost spring. Families are walking around. The lake is vivid blue. Sky is clear. White mountains. Goofy dogs running around. Happy wide-eyed babies learning to walk head your way and examine you. Couples. People jogging. Perfect Sunday afternoon. It is also the time of another species blooming and reemerging. Creepos. Yes, they are back again, ladies and gents. Creepos take the stage and occupy the lake promenade. So here goes a quick word about creepo deterrence theory and the creep deterrence coefficient.


First of all, let me say that while creepos might be also female, the majority of lake promenade creepos happens to be male – different perspectives welcome. Any lady can become an object of creeping. You may be tall or short, blonde or dark, dressed in a big black jacket reaching you knees with a big hood on, or in a mini-skirt – creepos will creep you out anyways. I guess, what we have to remember is that it is not personal. This being said, however, there are a few factors, which can help us figure out how and under what circumstances creepo behavior is more likely to be deterred. Here is the creep deterrent coefficient, a product of year long studies and research by leading experts in the field.


First, a few quick definitions.


Creepology: the science and study of creepo behavior.


Creepo (latin academic term. Creepo – for male; creepess – for female): The list includes but is not limited to the following behavior. A creepo is anyone who: cat whistles, wishes you ‘bon appétit’ if you’re drinking or eating something (yes, even if you’re just chewing gum), wants to sell you something, as a stranger says hello and asks if you want to have dinner or coffee with him, stops his car and invites you to get in, as a taxi driver asks if he can come upstairs with you after he drops you off and you pay him, starts following you on the street, continues following you even after you tell him to go away, meets you again on the other side of the lake and asks you again hoping you changed your mind, asks you to go to a party with him when he approaches you on the street, as a stranger asks to see your phone just for a second - while you are talking on it, invites you to play the street game with the ball and the three boxes otherwise also known as vegetation counting: ‘One, Two Tree’, follows you by hiding behind buildings and then quickly catches up with the distance until the next building, comes to talk to you while you are stretching at the lake promenade, tries to steal your bag while you are sunbathing at perle du lac, asks for directions but then decides to stay, sits next to you when you are sitting alone on a bench, stops you on the street to ask for directions followed by the sentence: ‘Uhh, can you help me. I am looking for your bedroom’.


That last one - true story. Okay, so here are the factors that make creepos more or less likely to creep.


Creepo deterrence coefficient: number of people around  x  day light x number of other unknown creepo competitors  x  5 times the presence of known male friend  x 2time the number of present known males (divided by:) 2 times number of known creepo colleagues  x  absence of traffick and people  x darkness  x 5 times lack of male presence


The stronger the first line of the equation, the stronger the deterrent effect. Deterrence is lessened by the denominator – in other words, the denominator is what encourages creeping. Note that some factors have a multiplier effect.


The higher the number of non-creepos around and the more day light, the less likely creepo is to approach. There are two exceptions to the number of people around serving as a deterrent  – a crowded public transport vehicle or a crowded club, both of which might have an opposite non-deterrent effect.


When one creepo approaches you at the exact same time as another non-colleage creepo, studies show that the two creepos cancel each other out and both walk away. The reason for this is that they avoid facing humiliation in front of another unknown creepo colleague. However, this holds true if, and only if the creepos are strangers to each other. If they know each other, that fact is a multiplier in the opposite direction ie. you become an object of concerted creepo attack from two sides whereby two creepos wish you bon appétit almost like a duet.


The strongest deterrence factor is the presence of a male accompanying the potential creeping object. Brothers, friends, boyfriends, husbands, fathers and uncles are more than welcome. Their number also increases the deterrence coefficient twofold.


Thanks for the attention, ladies and gents. The study now opens the consultation process, whereby the results and the theory are open to review and criticism.


 


Written by I.C., Chairwoman of the Institute for the Study of Creepology at Lac Leman, Visiting Scholar at Creepo Observatory Bain du Paquis, and Vice President for Policy at ‘Together we can stop creeping’, progressive non-profit organization based in Geneva.


IvetFeb 6, 2011 @ 22:17
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Definitely some writing talent.  I enjoyed reading you.

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Definitely some writing talent.  I enjoyed reading you.


didier r, Feb 7, 2011 @ 13:25
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...and in the Zurich forum, Ludmilla observes that "single women are pointing out that a lot of guys do not have the balls any more to approach them."


Ludmilla, I found an answer.  It's not a lack of balls, it's Ivet's 16-point checklist.  By the time the men are finished with their behavioral self-analysis, the women have left the building.

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...and in the Zurich forum, Ludmilla observes that "single women are pointing out that a lot of guys do not have the balls any more to approach them."


Ludmilla, I found an answer.  It's not a lack of balls, it's Ivet's 16-point checklist.  By the time the men are finished with their behavioral self-analysis, the women have left the building.


richardm, Feb 7, 2011 @ 13:58
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Mmmm.. just a thought if we separated the creepos from the; thieves, con-men/women and prospective muggers/vultures then the number of creepos would decrease.


There are several deterring factors for the non-creepos and that is try not to look too dumb and do not stop or even look interested in any; street game, ring found on floor, ball juggling or ice-cream on clothes. Avoid empty streets or at least keep your mobile in your hand with the finger on call incase you need to use it right away or look like you are using it. Last one true story.


Creepos are a bit different since they play on that blurry line of one trying to be polite and them not having done anything that would warrant you to call the police.  So, you just need a plan for when politeness is not working anymore. :) My 2 cents.


 

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Mmmm.. just a thought if we separated the creepos from the; thieves, con-men/women and prospective muggers/vultures then the number of creepos would decrease.


There are several deterring factors for the non-creepos and that is try not to look too dumb and do not stop or even look interested in any; street game, ring found on floor, ball juggling or ice-cream on clothes. Avoid empty streets or at least keep your mobile in your hand with the finger on call incase you need to use it right away or look like you are using it. Last one true story.


Creepos are a bit different since they play on that blurry line of one trying to be polite and them not having done anything that would warrant you to call the police.  So, you just need a plan for when politeness is not working anymore. :) My 2 cents.


 


Susie, Feb 7, 2011 @ 14:23
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hahahahaha.  brilliant.

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hahahahaha.  brilliant.


Magie Hall, Feb 7, 2011 @ 14:38
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I guess you have way too much time on your hands.

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I guess you have way too much time on your hands.


Andrew I, Feb 7, 2011 @ 15:55
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Jan 1, 70 01:00

Robi, just by the sound of it, it seems like you're pretty much a Creepo-Magnet yourself!! And you've mastered the tactful way of brushing off. You gotta teach me how to do it.


Although some guys may be indeed just friendly and chatty, and mean no harm (you can usually tell) even if they are strangers, on the other hand creepos can certainly go way beyond the friendly and become aggressive. Let me just say: if you're a stranger on the street, I don't owe you anything, so you can't get aggressive or curse me if I am just minding my business.


Just a few examples. If a creepo screams your way 'bon appetit' and you don't say anything, sometimes he gets agressive: 'No merci, really no merci??' followed by a curse. Another time if you say you're not interested a creepo tries to spit on you. The thing landed close to my shoe. Another time two creepos called me a racist because I didn't want to chat with two strangers. May be I am just in my mind reciting my presentation for the next day or I am just unwinding from everything. Another time I was sunbathing, and reading a book. A creepo approached and wanted to sit next to me, I said that I'm reading a book, he got pissed and tried to steal my bag. That's the thing though - you can't get pissed off - no one is oblidged to give you attention and you're not entitled to anything from a stranger. Just because a woman is on her own doesn't make her free game.

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Robi, just by the sound of it, it seems like you're pretty much a Creepo-Magnet yourself!! And you've mastered the tactful way of brushing off. You gotta teach me how to do it.


Although some guys may be indeed just friendly and chatty, and mean no harm (you can usually tell) even if they are strangers, on the other hand creepos can certainly go way beyond the friendly and become aggressive. Let me just say: if you're a stranger on the street, I don't owe you anything, so you can't get aggressive or curse me if I am just minding my business.


Just a few examples. If a creepo screams your way 'bon appetit' and you don't say anything, sometimes he gets agressive: 'No merci, really no merci??' followed by a curse. Another time if you say you're not interested a creepo tries to spit on you. The thing landed close to my shoe. Another time two creepos called me a racist because I didn't want to chat with two strangers. May be I am just in my mind reciting my presentation for the next day or I am just unwinding from everything. Another time I was sunbathing, and reading a book. A creepo approached and wanted to sit next to me, I said that I'm reading a book, he got pissed and tried to steal my bag. That's the thing though - you can't get pissed off - no one is oblidged to give you attention and you're not entitled to anything from a stranger. Just because a woman is on her own doesn't make her free game.


Ivet, Feb 7, 2011 @ 15:45
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Ivet: A genuine question for you.  Have you ever lived in a native English-speaking country?

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Ivet: A genuine question for you.  Have you ever lived in a native English-speaking country?


richardm, Feb 7, 2011 @ 16:06
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Actually, that's why it was proposed to admins some time ago (in another forum) to add "Block" option so one couldn't be disturbed that particular member any further.....

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Actually, that's why it was proposed to admins some time ago (in another forum) to add "Block" option so one couldn't be disturbed that particular member any further.....


hyeomer, Feb 7, 2011 @ 16:21
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...and in the Zurich forum, Ludmilla observes that "single women are pointing out that a lot of guys do not have the balls any more to approach them."

Ludmilla, I found an answer.  It's not a lack of balls, it's Ivet's 16-point checklist.  By the time the men are finished with their behavioral self-analysis, the women have left the building.


Feb 7, 11 13:58

Richard, it's funny you mention that because usually it's the kind guys who worry if they would come across as a creepo or not. Creepo, on the other hand, has no such thoughts; creepo moves on to the next stranger on the street. I am pretty sure that anyone who goes through behavioral self-analysis, probably hasn't done any of those 16 things to a stranger. I mean, those things are just scary and creepy. A woman wants to be approached by a fun kind guy who is not a creepo. By all means, if you guys have been eyeing each other across the room at a friends' party, go for it, don't waste time. Chat her up, get her number, ask her out. Don't waste time with stupid tricks a la The Game and self-analysis. But we're talking about something different here. I have the feeling that the women in the debate get the difference. A cool guy wouldn't start following you hiding behind buildings.


Let's consider:


You meet at a friends' dinner and you ask her out = Good Times vs. woman walks in a dark alley, creepo jumps out to ask her out = Creepo Time


You crack a funny joke about sandwitches with a smile while both of you are waiting for your sandwitches at the counter = Good Times vs. you sit across her in a concentrated stare, while she is eating her sandwitch = Creepo Time


Please, more of Good Times and less of Creepo Time.


 

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Richard, it's funny you mention that because usually it's the kind guys who worry if they would come across as a creepo or not. Creepo, on the other hand, has no such thoughts; creepo moves on to the next stranger on the street. I am pretty sure that anyone who goes through behavioral self-analysis, probably hasn't done any of those 16 things to a stranger. I mean, those things are just scary and creepy. A woman wants to be approached by a fun kind guy who is not a creepo. By all means, if you guys have been eyeing each other across the room at a friends' party, go for it, don't waste time. Chat her up, get her number, ask her out. Don't waste time with stupid tricks a la The Game and self-analysis. But we're talking about something different here. I have the feeling that the women in the debate get the difference. A cool guy wouldn't start following you hiding behind buildings.


Let's consider:


You meet at a friends' dinner and you ask her out = Good Times vs. woman walks in a dark alley, creepo jumps out to ask her out = Creepo Time


You crack a funny joke about sandwitches with a smile while both of you are waiting for your sandwitches at the counter = Good Times vs. you sit across her in a concentrated stare, while she is eating her sandwitch = Creepo Time


Please, more of Good Times and less of Creepo Time.


 


Ivet, Feb 7, 2011 @ 16:04
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hahahahaha.  brilliant.


Feb 7, 11 14:38

Thanks! I was walking around yesterday and got the idea - I just had to write this!

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Thanks! I was walking around yesterday and got the idea - I just had to write this!


Ivet, Feb 7, 2011 @ 16:30
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Mmmm.. just a thought if we separated the creepos from the; thieves, con-men/women and prospective muggers/vultures then the number of creepos would decrease.

There are several deterring factors for the non-creepos and that is try not to look too dumb and do not stop or even look interested in any; street game, ring found on floor, ball juggling or ice-cream on clothes. Avoid empty streets or at least keep your mobile in your hand with the finger on call incase you need to use it right away or look like you are using it. Last one true story.

Creepos are a bit different since they play on that blurry line of one trying to be polite and them not having done anything that would warrant you to call the police.  So, you just need a plan for when politeness is not working anymore. :) My 2 cents.

 


Feb 7, 11 14:23

Hehe - true - I guess we have to fine tune our academic categories: thieves, con artisits and creepos. However, sometimes I find there is an amazing overlap. Creepo turns thief, theif becomes creepo while he is robbing you, etc. I guess you're right: stay out of dark alleys and keep your finger on the phone

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Hehe - true - I guess we have to fine tune our academic categories: thieves, con artisits and creepos. However, sometimes I find there is an amazing overlap. Creepo turns thief, theif becomes creepo while he is robbing you, etc. I guess you're right: stay out of dark alleys and keep your finger on the phone


Ivet, Feb 7, 2011 @ 16:31
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And there are not only in Geneva streets....

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And there are not only in Geneva streets....


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I guess you have way too much time on your hands.


Feb 7, 11 15:55

Yes Andrew, I do and it's great! I love it. I'm gonna go for a walk in a bit after I sleept until very late today.

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Yes Andrew, I do and it's great! I love it. I'm gonna go for a walk in a bit after I sleept until very late today.


Ivet, Feb 7, 2011 @ 16:36
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I guess you have way too much time on your hands.


Feb 7, 11 15:55

I think Ivet is so brave and smart to touch the topic.


The creeps, (also the amateur criminals and unsuccessful but agressive flirters) steal a lot of enjoyable mornings, walks under soleil potentially quiet minutes, reading/working time outside the building for some people, mostly women.


It is usually 1.not funny, 2.unsafe, 3. terrorising, 4. unfair


The tactics, - how about all the people who notices do not ignore, and sort of react, for starters?


(like at least stare in surprise, not necessarily talk to creeps)

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I think Ivet is so brave and smart to touch the topic.


The creeps, (also the amateur criminals and unsuccessful but agressive flirters) steal a lot of enjoyable mornings, walks under soleil potentially quiet minutes, reading/working time outside the building for some people, mostly women.


It is usually 1.not funny, 2.unsafe, 3. terrorising, 4. unfair


The tactics, - how about all the people who notices do not ignore, and sort of react, for starters?


(like at least stare in surprise, not necessarily talk to creeps)


HelenaTravel, Feb 7, 2011 @ 16:28
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Ivet: A genuine question for you.  Have you ever lived in a native English-speaking country?


Feb 7, 11 16:06

Yup: California, DC and NY. I gotta say I really miss the US in that respect (pun intended!). Guys didn't seem to have a problem with asking a woman out, yet no one whistles on the street.

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Yup: California, DC and NY. I gotta say I really miss the US in that respect (pun intended!). Guys didn't seem to have a problem with asking a woman out, yet no one whistles on the street.


Ivet, Feb 7, 2011 @ 16:40
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Creeps act like creeps because women are too creeptic for them to decipher.

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Creeps act like creeps because women are too creeptic for them to decipher.


Casuistik, Feb 7, 2011 @ 17:16
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bah quand tu seras vieille et moche, tu te rappelleras avec une grande nostalgie de tous les harcèlements dont tu parles ;)

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bah quand tu seras vieille et moche, tu te rappelleras avec une grande nostalgie de tous les harcèlements dont tu parles ;)


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I honestly don't think a woman is 'moche' because she ages. She can still be desireable - but that's a different topic.


And I surely won't miss being harassed.. Again - to make the difference - it is not the creep interactions that make me feel good and flatter me. On the contrary.

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I honestly don't think a woman is 'moche' because she ages. She can still be desireable - but that's a different topic.


And I surely won't miss being harassed.. Again - to make the difference - it is not the creep interactions that make me feel good and flatter me. On the contrary.


Ivet, Feb 7, 2011 @ 18:11
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bah quand tu seras vieille et moche, tu te rappelleras avec une grande nostalgie de tous les harcèlements dont tu parles ;)


Feb 7, 11 18:02

Sympa d'avoir traduit une partie de l'intervention de Robi. Et tout ça, presque sans faute.

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Sympa d'avoir traduit une partie de l'intervention de Robi. Et tout ça, presque sans faute.


Casuistik, Feb 7, 2011 @ 18:13
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Creeps are just guys who are either too ugly or not rich enough to be considered potential partner material. Laughing

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Creeps are just guys who are either too ugly or not rich enough to be considered potential partner material. Laughing


David G, Feb 7, 2011 @ 18:23
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bah quand tu seras vieille et moche, tu te rappelleras avec une grande nostalgie de tous les harcèlements dont tu parles ;)


Feb 7, 11 18:02

Special Google Translation service:


"bah when you grow old and ugly, you will remember with great nostalgia for all the harassment of which you speak;)"

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"bah when you grow old and ugly, you will remember with great nostalgia for all the harassment of which you speak;)"


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@casuistik,


oui désolé il fallait lire "tu te rappeleras"


si je peux contribuer à ne pas induire en erreur tous les expats de bonne volonté, qui apprennent le français bien orthographié, il faut que je fasse att..ation:)


C'est vrai que j'ai résumé un peu la pensée de Robi dans un style un peu plus direct.


@ivet " je ne suis pas daccord avec vous mais je me battrai pour que vous puissiez le dire"


c'est bon là Casuistik pour l'orthographe?:)

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@casuistik,


oui désolé il fallait lire "tu te rappeleras"


si je peux contribuer à ne pas induire en erreur tous les expats de bonne volonté, qui apprennent le français bien orthographié, il faut que je fasse att..ation:)


C'est vrai que j'ai résumé un peu la pensée de Robi dans un style un peu plus direct.


@ivet " je ne suis pas daccord avec vous mais je me battrai pour que vous puissiez le dire"


c'est bon là Casuistik pour l'orthographe?:)


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Yup: California, DC and NY. I gotta say I really miss the US in that respect (pun intended!). Guys didn't seem to have a problem with asking a woman out, yet no one whistles on the street.


Feb 7, 11 16:40

Um, no, they may not whistle; some of them yell, hoot, holler, shout, ad nauseum...


I mean, US men are generally great -- I have lots of brothers and men friends -- but let's be real...

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Um, no, they may not whistle; some of them yell, hoot, holler, shout, ad nauseum...


I mean, US men are generally great -- I have lots of brothers and men friends -- but let's be real...


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@casuistik,

oui désolé il fallait lire "tu te rappeleras"

si je peux contribuer à ne pas induire en erreur tous les expats de bonne volonté, qui apprennent le français bien orthographié, il faut que je fasse att..ation:)

C'est vrai que j'ai résumé un peu la pensée de Robi dans un style un peu plus direct.

@ivet " je ne suis pas daccord avec vous mais je me battrai pour que vous puissiez le dire"

c'est bon là Casuistik pour l'orthographe?:)


Feb 7, 11 19:05

Non, non: rappelleras était correct.


Je pensais à la majuscule initiale manquante (une marotte qui apparemment t'est chère), à la ponctuation anarchique et à la faute de grammaire (très courante) qui consiste à construire se rappeler avec un COI (on se souvient DE quelque chose, mais on se rappelle quelque chose).


daccord: faute de frappe, j'imagine... (à moins que Voltaire...)


bien orthographié: est un pléonasme.


Désolé d'être aussi pointilleux; déformation professionnelle de pion, je suppose...


Les étrangers qui apprennent le français ont toute mon admiration.


En outre, un bouton edit serait vraiment le bienvenu! ODED!!!!

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Non, non: rappelleras était correct.


Je pensais à la majuscule initiale manquante (une marotte qui apparemment t'est chère), à la ponctuation anarchique et à la faute de grammaire (très courante) qui consiste à construire se rappeler avec un COI (on se souvient DE quelque chose, mais on se rappelle quelque chose).


daccord: faute de frappe, j'imagine... (à moins que Voltaire...)


bien orthographié: est un pléonasme.


Désolé d'être aussi pointilleux; déformation professionnelle de pion, je suppose...


Les étrangers qui apprennent le français ont toute mon admiration.


En outre, un bouton edit serait vraiment le bienvenu! ODED!!!!


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C'est un bouton de rédaction?

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C'est un bouton de rédaction?


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C'est un bouton de rédaction?


Feb 7, 11 20:01

C'est un bouton noir... Raus!

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C'est un bouton noir... Raus!


Feb 7, 11 20:09

Jawohl, mein herr...

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Jawohl, mein herr...


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Hakuna matata.  Bakia vizuri, rafiki...

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Hakuna matata.  Bakia vizuri, rafiki...


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Creeps are just guys who are either too ugly or not rich enough to be considered potential partner material. Laughing


Feb 7, 11 18:23

This!

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This!


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Creeps are just guys who are either too ugly or not rich enough to be considered potential partner material. Laughing


Feb 7, 11 18:23

You mean: a poor creep guy is a creep, but a rich creep guy is a rich?  Not always true.

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You mean: a poor creep guy is a creep, but a rich creep guy is a rich?  Not always true.


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Waaaaaay tooooo much time on your hands if you ask me!

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You mean: a poor creep guy is a creep, but a rich creep guy is a rich?  Not always true.


Feb 7, 11 21:38

Well there is always Huw Hefner.

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Well there is always Huw Hefner.


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Well there is always Huw Hefner.


Feb 10, 11 17:44

Creepo is about how you act - not who you are. I don't think you would see H. following young women on the lake promenade.  But if he did that, he surely would be a creepo - money or not.

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Creepo is about how you act - not who you are. I don't think you would see H. following young women on the lake promenade.  But if he did that, he surely would be a creepo - money or not.


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You seem to be under the false assumption that there are women down there that are worth following. Maybe I am missing something but I haven't seen it yet...

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You seem to be under the false assumption that there are women down there that are worth following. Maybe I am missing something but I haven't seen it yet...


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Creepo is about how you act - not who you are. I don't think you would see H. following young women on the lake promenade.  But if he did that, he surely would be a creepo - money or not.


Feb 10, 11 19:58

Did you see he's just got engaged !


H. has been around Geneva at times, if I ever had time to get down to Geneva Plage I would be sure to watch out for him, just in case he is hassling other young ladies.

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Did you see he's just got engaged !


H. has been around Geneva at times, if I ever had time to get down to Geneva Plage I would be sure to watch out for him, just in case he is hassling other young ladies.


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Alright now we're talkin'

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This!


Feb 7, 11 21:24

how are you supposed to know how rich they are?

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how are you supposed to know how rich they are?


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Creeps are just guys who are either too ugly or not rich enough to be considered potential partner material. Laughing


Feb 7, 11 18:23

how are you supposed to know how rich they are? or other details in such interaction?

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how are you supposed to know how rich they are? or other details in such interaction?


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how are you supposed to know how rich they are?


Apr 4, 11 11:51

Nice Swiss watch, Hugo Boss jacket, 1000CHF notes tucked into top hat etc.

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Nice Swiss watch, Hugo Boss jacket, 1000CHF notes tucked into top hat etc.


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Thanks for the post Ivet which was really entertaining...and TRUE. Made me laugh. But I hear you- I have had cars slow down and drive by while I walk home, have been followed so I had to take a different route, criss cross the street etc, plus some of the other more light creepy harrassment which is easier to handle. It doesn't happen all the time. Often it is just guys trying their luck, but they aren't aggressive. I just say 'non merci' politely to invitations, offers to join me and that's it- they just wish me and walk away which is fine. You can almost always tell a creepy guy (he is not really interested in YOU but will try anyway with one or two girls on their own) compared with a guy that actually seems genuine (i.e your 'good times' vs 'creepy times' encounter).  But other times (i.e. like cars slowing down, being grabbed by the arm while walking by), it can be quite scary.  Actually, it makes me so furious that I want to do that 'Cock punch' as Brett W suggests. It makes me want to be a Ninja and just put them on the ground with flying legkicks and karate chops...!!!!


As for the guy who says that when we're old and ugly we'll miss it--- what a completely idiotic comment. Nuff said!


Good luck with your endeavours!

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Thanks for the post Ivet which was really entertaining...and TRUE. Made me laugh. But I hear you- I have had cars slow down and drive by while I walk home, have been followed so I had to take a different route, criss cross the street etc, plus some of the other more light creepy harrassment which is easier to handle. It doesn't happen all the time. Often it is just guys trying their luck, but they aren't aggressive. I just say 'non merci' politely to invitations, offers to join me and that's it- they just wish me and walk away which is fine. You can almost always tell a creepy guy (he is not really interested in YOU but will try anyway with one or two girls on their own) compared with a guy that actually seems genuine (i.e your 'good times' vs 'creepy times' encounter).  But other times (i.e. like cars slowing down, being grabbed by the arm while walking by), it can be quite scary.  Actually, it makes me so furious that I want to do that 'Cock punch' as Brett W suggests. It makes me want to be a Ninja and just put them on the ground with flying legkicks and karate chops...!!!!


As for the guy who says that when we're old and ugly we'll miss it--- what a completely idiotic comment. Nuff said!


Good luck with your endeavours!


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Agent Betty - be careful everybody! hahaha


So I decided to give some of the advice here a try. Didn't work I am afraid. Saying hello politely was the worst thing I could have done!! Don't try this stint at home! My weekend update:


Senario 1: A bunch of guys at the lake side. One says hello. Me thinking to myself: Ok be nice, just a nod and hello. So I do. And immediately afterwards I remember why I don't do this anymore. I walk away and a minute afterwards I realize creepo is walking after me. Starts talking. Me polite again: Thank you and have a good day. No, creepo stays. No good bye. I slow down, creepo slows down. I change direction, creepo changes direction too. I stop, creepo stops. It doesn't matter how many times you say thank you and good bye. And don't smile. Creep sees it as an opening. It doesn't work! As I said, don't try at home.


Senario 2: Me walking alongside lake, eating sandwich. Guy approaches from behind to say hello, you're beautiful bla bla... Not a creepo - he is friendly. Again me talking to myself: "Come on, be nice, he will go away". So I say hello, he asks where I am from, I say Bulgaria, and then have a good day. He goes: you dont want to talk. I say no, i prefer walking on my own. I smile. No problem, he smiles. He walks away wishing me all good, I do the same, smile and wave.All good.


I know what you're thinking: Aha! Gotcha! See, it works. Yeah right. Two days later (i.e. last night) walking alongisde the lake. It's dark and as I pass by a group someone intently heads towards me. "Hey the Bulgarian girl! I remember you!" Me thinking: "Oh great." walks away. Creepo: "I will see you again next time, don't worry. We are here all the time. Have a good night. I will show you." Show me what? Yes I do worry. Great. Now whole creepo group chillin regularly at the lake side knows I'm the Bulgarian girl. I will get this everytime ... See, no good deed goes unpunished. Dont establish any contact if you really dont want conitnuation of interaction. Otherwise, creepo remembers you and he will show you.


Senario 3: Ah nice. Day at the gym. Then walking. Stretching in the park. And now I am really further away from Geneva, close to the Yachtclub/Cologny. You know this path, right? Divine. So here I am - body and mind in sync, feeding off the endorphines release from the stretching, Singing along with the ducks: pa pa pa. minding my own business. Mobile creepo on a bike. Says somethin. Me ignores. 20 minutes later comes back further down the path. At this point I am stretching: you know the drill, butt up, leaning forward. Creepo nears. I say no thanks, I'm busy. Cuz he really irritated me - I finally found the quiet place. I am in my thoughts, positive, energizing. Who are you to interrupt me, stand so close in such an arrogant way and think I actually owe you anything? Of course I only say: no thanks, im busy while stretching further. Creepo flips: You're a racist! You're a racist! No. You just bother me. Fuming creepo leaves on his bike. 10 meters down he tries to chat up a black girl who also blows him off - now isn't that funny. I guess she is a racist too. 10 minutes later creepo comes back again, third time, screaming I am a racist. Mobile creepo, listen, why don't you take a dive into the lake together with your bike.


Senario 4: Different creepo with a pizza on a different bike appraoches from behind. I ignore. And I am a racist again. Creepo, really, why dont you go eat your pizza. Cuz you'll drop it like this. Or give it to me.


Theory is empirically confirmed over the past weekend. Don't be nice! I am begging you.

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Agent Betty - be careful everybody! hahaha


So I decided to give some of the advice here a try. Didn't work I am afraid. Saying hello politely was the worst thing I could have done!! Don't try this stint at home! My weekend update:


Senario 1: A bunch of guys at the lake side. One says hello. Me thinking to myself: Ok be nice, just a nod and hello. So I do. And immediately afterwards I remember why I don't do this anymore. I walk away and a minute afterwards I realize creepo is walking after me. Starts talking. Me polite again: Thank you and have a good day. No, creepo stays. No good bye. I slow down, creepo slows down. I change direction, creepo changes direction too. I stop, creepo stops. It doesn't matter how many times you say thank you and good bye. And don't smile. Creep sees it as an opening. It doesn't work! As I said, don't try at home.


Senario 2: Me walking alongside lake, eating sandwich. Guy approaches from behind to say hello, you're beautiful bla bla... Not a creepo - he is friendly. Again me talking to myself: "Come on, be nice, he will go away". So I say hello, he asks where I am from, I say Bulgaria, and then have a good day. He goes: you dont want to talk. I say no, i prefer walking on my own. I smile. No problem, he smiles. He walks away wishing me all good, I do the same, smile and wave.All good.


I know what you're thinking: Aha! Gotcha! See, it works. Yeah right. Two days later (i.e. last night) walking alongisde the lake. It's dark and as I pass by a group someone intently heads towards me. "Hey the Bulgarian girl! I remember you!" Me thinking: "Oh great." walks away. Creepo: "I will see you again next time, don't worry. We are here all the time. Have a good night. I will show you." Show me what? Yes I do worry. Great. Now whole creepo group chillin regularly at the lake side knows I'm the Bulgarian girl. I will get this everytime ... See, no good deed goes unpunished. Dont establish any contact if you really dont want conitnuation of interaction. Otherwise, creepo remembers you and he will show you.


Senario 3: Ah nice. Day at the gym. Then walking. Stretching in the park. And now I am really further away from Geneva, close to the Yachtclub/Cologny. You know this path, right? Divine. So here I am - body and mind in sync, feeding off the endorphines release from the stretching, Singing along with the ducks: pa pa pa. minding my own business. Mobile creepo on a bike. Says somethin. Me ignores. 20 minutes later comes back further down the path. At this point I am stretching: you know the drill, butt up, leaning forward. Creepo nears. I say no thanks, I'm busy. Cuz he really irritated me - I finally found the quiet place. I am in my thoughts, positive, energizing. Who are you to interrupt me, stand so close in such an arrogant way and think I actually owe you anything? Of course I only say: no thanks, im busy while stretching further. Creepo flips: You're a racist! You're a racist! No. You just bother me. Fuming creepo leaves on his bike. 10 meters down he tries to chat up a black girl who also blows him off - now isn't that funny. I guess she is a racist too. 10 minutes later creepo comes back again, third time, screaming I am a racist. Mobile creepo, listen, why don't you take a dive into the lake together with your bike.


Senario 4: Different creepo with a pizza on a different bike appraoches from behind. I ignore. And I am a racist again. Creepo, really, why dont you go eat your pizza. Cuz you'll drop it like this. Or give it to me.


Theory is empirically confirmed over the past weekend. Don't be nice! I am begging you.


Ivet, Apr 4, 2011 @ 15:55
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Creeps act like creeps because women are too creeptic for them to decipher.


Feb 7, 11 17:16

creepo allert with picture above

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Hej Ivet,


Brilliant writting skills and such a great topic, my wife comes home with the same stories of weirdo's and creepo's.


I will forward her this chain, very helpful and amusing..in a distrubing way.

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Hej Ivet,


Brilliant writting skills and such a great topic, my wife comes home with the same stories of weirdo's and creepo's.


I will forward her this chain, very helpful and amusing..in a distrubing way.


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if nothing else works...

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Bedankt bedankt, Sando with the cool dog and the hot wife

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theres a bit of "creep" in every guy...and in equal parts there is a bit of "gold digging sex avoiding control freakish bunny boiler" in ever girl!


sigh...

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I love how the guys are really divided here. The ones who might have been branded or fear might be branded as a creep tread carefully and play the whole relativist card: its just a guy trying his luck, everbody has been there, etc. etc. too much pressure on men nowadays, etc.and why are you complaining anyway? etc.etc.


While for the guys which are truly annoyed by the said creepos and/or worry about the women around them (sister, wife, girlfriend) it's very simple: don't even think! kick him in the groin! That's what my brother would say for example. No existential analysis. It's simple.


And Charlie - sorry its so funny to see such an assymetry. Sure - let every guy be 'a bit' of a creep, but lets make every girl 'a bit' of the whole line: "gold digging sex avoiding control freakish bunny boiler"

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I love how the guys are really divided here. The ones who might have been branded or fear might be branded as a creep tread carefully and play the whole relativist card: its just a guy trying his luck, everbody has been there, etc. etc. too much pressure on men nowadays, etc.and why are you complaining anyway? etc.etc.


While for the guys which are truly annoyed by the said creepos and/or worry about the women around them (sister, wife, girlfriend) it's very simple: don't even think! kick him in the groin! That's what my brother would say for example. No existential analysis. It's simple.


And Charlie - sorry its so funny to see such an assymetry. Sure - let every guy be 'a bit' of a creep, but lets make every girl 'a bit' of the whole line: "gold digging sex avoiding control freakish bunny boiler"


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I love how the guys are really divided here. The ones who might have been branded or fear might be branded as a creep tread carefully and play the whole relativist card: its just a guy trying his luck, everbody has been there, etc. etc. too much pressure on men nowadays, etc.and why are you complaining anyway? etc.etc.

While for the guys which are truly annoyed by the said creepos and/or worry about the women around them (sister, wife, girlfriend) it's very simple: don't even think! kick him in the groin! That's what my brother would say for example. No existential analysis. It's simple.

And Charlie - sorry its so funny to see such an assymetry. Sure - let every guy be 'a bit' of a creep, but lets make every girl 'a bit' of the whole line: "gold digging sex avoiding control freakish bunny boiler"


Apr 4, 11 17:22

Ivet, ok maybe it was a little bit lop sided... but I was just realistically stating that no one is perfect (M or F)..... one girls creep is another girls perfection... thank God we are not all the same, or have the same taste...


Equally, some men actually "like" being controlled (or need it)... many (esp older ) rich guys put up with "pretty gold diggers" (arm/eye candy boosts their ego)...and bunny boilers...well every woman is a bit of a bunny boiler "once a month" in my experience...


Personally I dont advocate violence, so wouldnt suggest "knocking a creep on the cock"... it may inflame the situation...and in my experience women have some great "put down" lines that can send any guy scampering off...


 

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Ivet, ok maybe it was a little bit lop sided... but I was just realistically stating that no one is perfect (M or F)..... one girls creep is another girls perfection... thank God we are not all the same, or have the same taste...


Equally, some men actually "like" being controlled (or need it)... many (esp older ) rich guys put up with "pretty gold diggers" (arm/eye candy boosts their ego)...and bunny boilers...well every woman is a bit of a bunny boiler "once a month" in my experience...


Personally I dont advocate violence, so wouldnt suggest "knocking a creep on the cock"... it may inflame the situation...and in my experience women have some great "put down" lines that can send any guy scampering off...


 


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