Yay, me and thank you, Canton of Geneva for extending me a Permis C. But what exactly does this mean? I know my tax status changes from impot a la source to having to sort my own, but what else does it mean?
Does anyone know of an English Language primer (or would like to write one?) for what a C permit means? (Yeah, I get by with my French but certain things like doctors and money, I prefer to deal with en Anglais).
Many, many thanks!
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I just got my C permit, now what?!
Sep 21, 2008 @ 23:24
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Yay, me and thank you, Canton of Geneva for extending me a Permis C. But what exactly does this mean? I know my tax status changes from impot a la source to having to sort my own, but what else does it mean?
Does anyone know of an English Language primer (or would like to write one?) for what a C permit means? (Yeah, I get by with my French but certain things like doctors and money, I prefer to deal with en Anglais).
Many, many thanks!
misskateSep 21, 2008 @ 23:24
Does anyone know of an English Language primer (or would like to write one?) for what a C permit means? (Yeah, I get by with my French but certain things like doctors and money, I prefer to deal with en Anglais).
Many, many thanks!
misskateSep 21, 2008 @ 23:24
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Sep 22, 2008 @ 01:24
some changes yes, like you only have to renew every 3 yrs ( europeans every 5...really not fair to us folks)
you can vote in communal elections (whoppie!!) and even hold local office.
taxes will be withheld at source from 2009 for everyone, so back to "square 1"
when applying for a job, you can tick the permit C box and realise that we're still a foreigner.
you still haven't the right to work in switz. and live in france.
congratulations and welcome to C permit living :-)
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some changes yes, like you only have to renew every 3 yrs ( europeans every 5...really not fair to us folks)
you can vote in communal elections (whoppie!!) and even hold local office.
taxes will be withheld at source from 2009 for everyone, so back to "square 1"
when applying for a job, you can tick the permit C box and realise that we're still a foreigner.
you still haven't the right to work in switz. and live in france.
congratulations and welcome to C permit living :-)
epicure, Sep 22, 2008 @ 01:24
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Sep 22, 2008 @ 01:27
oh and also, you can get back your 500 sfr. deposit from swisscom. maybe they don't do that anymore, but they used to require non permit C holders to pay a deposit.
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oh and also, you can get back your 500 sfr. deposit from swisscom. maybe they don't do that anymore, but they used to require non permit C holders to pay a deposit.
epicure, Sep 22, 2008 @ 01:27
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Sep 22, 2008 @ 13:47
biggest difference with a B is, if I remember properly, the fact you are not obliged to inform the authorities of your every move. Changing job or moving (change in accommodation) within switzerland is much more simple, especially across cantons.
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biggest difference with a B is, if I remember properly, the fact you are not obliged to inform the authorities of your every move. Changing job or moving (change in accommodation) within switzerland is much more simple, especially across cantons.
munkypint, Sep 22, 2008 @ 13:47
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Sep 22, 2008 @ 15:34
Speaking about permit, does anyone know how long it takes for the OCP to send us the permit? I sent mine about a month ago (for prolongation) and haven't got the reply. So I'm wondering...Btw, it's permit B. Thanks for the info.
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Speaking about permit, does anyone know how long it takes for the OCP to send us the permit? I sent mine about a month ago (for prolongation) and haven't got the reply. So I'm wondering...Btw, it's permit B. Thanks for the info.
Goddess_V, Sep 22, 2008 @ 15:34
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Sep 22, 2008 @ 18:01
Thanks for the congrats! I am very excited.
Actually, my C permit came with a 5year life, so I'm good until 2013. Must just be you as a special case! ;)
Taxes for everyone will be w/held at the source in 2009? Argh, this is the first I'd heard of it.
But for me, for now, what do I do? Do I just put the money aside? Or do I try to send it in each month to the Canton? And somebody told me that I was going to have to give money to a Federal tax to the tune of quite a few thousand a year, too!
The effect on my life seems fairly minimal, maybe not enough to justify my excitement, but I was pretty pleased when it arrived. So, I will pretend that this is a huge honor bestowed upon me. Thanks for playing along! :)
[quote]some changes yes, like you only have to renew every 3 yrs ( europeans every 5...really not fair to us folks)
you can vote in communal elections (whoppie!!) and even hold local office.
taxes will be withheld at source from 2009 for everyone, so back to "square 1"
when applying for a job, you can tick the permit C box and realise that we're still a foreigner.
you still haven't the right to work in switz. and live in france.
congratulations and welcome to C permit living :-)[/quote]
Actually, my C permit came with a 5year life, so I'm good until 2013. Must just be you as a special case! ;)
Taxes for everyone will be w/held at the source in 2009? Argh, this is the first I'd heard of it.
But for me, for now, what do I do? Do I just put the money aside? Or do I try to send it in each month to the Canton? And somebody told me that I was going to have to give money to a Federal tax to the tune of quite a few thousand a year, too!
The effect on my life seems fairly minimal, maybe not enough to justify my excitement, but I was pretty pleased when it arrived. So, I will pretend that this is a huge honor bestowed upon me. Thanks for playing along! :)
[quote]some changes yes, like you only have to renew every 3 yrs ( europeans every 5...really not fair to us folks)
you can vote in communal elections (whoppie!!) and even hold local office.
taxes will be withheld at source from 2009 for everyone, so back to "square 1"
when applying for a job, you can tick the permit C box and realise that we're still a foreigner.
you still haven't the right to work in switz. and live in france.
congratulations and welcome to C permit living :-)[/quote]
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Thanks for the congrats! I am very excited.
Actually, my C permit came with a 5year life, so I'm good until 2013. Must just be you as a special case! ;)
Taxes for everyone will be w/held at the source in 2009? Argh, this is the first I'd heard of it.
But for me, for now, what do I do? Do I just put the money aside? Or do I try to send it in each month to the Canton? And somebody told me that I was going to have to give money to a Federal tax to the tune of quite a few thousand a year, too!
The effect on my life seems fairly minimal, maybe not enough to justify my excitement, but I was pretty pleased when it arrived. So, I will pretend that this is a huge honor bestowed upon me. Thanks for playing along! :)
[quote]some changes yes, like you only have to renew every 3 yrs ( europeans every 5...really not fair to us folks)
you can vote in communal elections (whoppie!!) and even hold local office.
taxes will be withheld at source from 2009 for everyone, so back to "square 1"
when applying for a job, you can tick the permit C box and realise that we're still a foreigner.
you still haven't the right to work in switz. and live in france.
congratulations and welcome to C permit living :-)[/quote]
misskate, Sep 22, 2008 @ 18:01
Actually, my C permit came with a 5year life, so I'm good until 2013. Must just be you as a special case! ;)
Taxes for everyone will be w/held at the source in 2009? Argh, this is the first I'd heard of it.
But for me, for now, what do I do? Do I just put the money aside? Or do I try to send it in each month to the Canton? And somebody told me that I was going to have to give money to a Federal tax to the tune of quite a few thousand a year, too!
The effect on my life seems fairly minimal, maybe not enough to justify my excitement, but I was pretty pleased when it arrived. So, I will pretend that this is a huge honor bestowed upon me. Thanks for playing along! :)
[quote]some changes yes, like you only have to renew every 3 yrs ( europeans every 5...really not fair to us folks)
you can vote in communal elections (whoppie!!) and even hold local office.
taxes will be withheld at source from 2009 for everyone, so back to "square 1"
when applying for a job, you can tick the permit C box and realise that we're still a foreigner.
you still haven't the right to work in switz. and live in france.
congratulations and welcome to C permit living :-)[/quote]
misskate, Sep 22, 2008 @ 18:01
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Sep 24, 2008 @ 02:59
Well of course, but only if you are free! :)
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Sep 24, 2008 @ 09:22
"after a certain number of years you are automatically entitled to Swiss Citizenship"
that's totally untrue......you have to apply ( after 12 yrs and living in the same commune) it takes about one year, and it is not automatic, you can be refused! as far as asking the US embassy, they are not about to give you info on how to change your citizenship. As a US citizen, you are liable for a tax declaration anywhere you live or work. It's the only country requiring tax declarations based on citizenship and not residence. but the declaration is rather easy and you get an $83'000 deductable.
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"after a certain number of years you are automatically entitled to Swiss Citizenship"
that's totally untrue......you have to apply ( after 12 yrs and living in the same commune) it takes about one year, and it is not automatic, you can be refused! as far as asking the US embassy, they are not about to give you info on how to change your citizenship. As a US citizen, you are liable for a tax declaration anywhere you live or work. It's the only country requiring tax declarations based on citizenship and not residence. but the declaration is rather easy and you get an $83'000 deductable.
epicure, Sep 24, 2008 @ 09:22
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Sep 24, 2008 @ 12:44
[quote]"after a certain number of years you are automatically entitled to Swiss Citizenship"
that's totally untrue......you have to apply ( after 12 yrs and living in the same commune) it takes about one year, and it is not automatic, you can be refused! as far as asking the US embassy, they are not about to give you info on how to change your citizenship. As a US citizen, you are liable for a tax declaration anywhere you live or work. It's the only country requiring tax declarations based on citizenship and not residence. but the declaration is rather easy and you get an $83'000 deductable.[/quote]
I have yet to actually come accross either an Erritrean or Phillipino client .. but apparently their countries' tax reporting is also based on citizenship not residence. Don't say you haven't been warned :D
that's totally untrue......you have to apply ( after 12 yrs and living in the same commune) it takes about one year, and it is not automatic, you can be refused! as far as asking the US embassy, they are not about to give you info on how to change your citizenship. As a US citizen, you are liable for a tax declaration anywhere you live or work. It's the only country requiring tax declarations based on citizenship and not residence. but the declaration is rather easy and you get an $83'000 deductable.[/quote]
I have yet to actually come accross either an Erritrean or Phillipino client .. but apparently their countries' tax reporting is also based on citizenship not residence. Don't say you haven't been warned :D
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[quote]"after a certain number of years you are automatically entitled to Swiss Citizenship"
that's totally untrue......you have to apply ( after 12 yrs and living in the same commune) it takes about one year, and it is not automatic, you can be refused! as far as asking the US embassy, they are not about to give you info on how to change your citizenship. As a US citizen, you are liable for a tax declaration anywhere you live or work. It's the only country requiring tax declarations based on citizenship and not residence. but the declaration is rather easy and you get an $83'000 deductable.[/quote]
I have yet to actually come accross either an Erritrean or Phillipino client .. but apparently their countries' tax reporting is also based on citizenship not residence. Don't say you haven't been warned :D
wilycoyote, Sep 24, 2008 @ 12:44
that's totally untrue......you have to apply ( after 12 yrs and living in the same commune) it takes about one year, and it is not automatic, you can be refused! as far as asking the US embassy, they are not about to give you info on how to change your citizenship. As a US citizen, you are liable for a tax declaration anywhere you live or work. It's the only country requiring tax declarations based on citizenship and not residence. but the declaration is rather easy and you get an $83'000 deductable.[/quote]
I have yet to actually come accross either an Erritrean or Phillipino client .. but apparently their countries' tax reporting is also based on citizenship not residence. Don't say you haven't been warned :D
wilycoyote, Sep 24, 2008 @ 12:44
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Sep 25, 2008 @ 16:14
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If you are on a budget, which I doubt, Organisations like HEKS, may be willing to give you some tips on immigration. Check out also for friends/contacts within your networks, perhaps there is an expert on immigration matters.
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I appreciate your light touch with this topic so far. For the most part, reading your posts have been an amusing diversion, but the section above touched a nerve. I don't know who your intended audience for this message is, but I would suggest you not make assumptions. Not everyone on Glocals comes accessorized with an expat benefits package.
If you are on a budget, which I doubt, Organisations like HEKS, may be willing to give you some tips on immigration. Check out also for friends/contacts within your networks, perhaps there is an expert on immigration matters.
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I appreciate your light touch with this topic so far. For the most part, reading your posts have been an amusing diversion, but the section above touched a nerve. I don't know who your intended audience for this message is, but I would suggest you not make assumptions. Not everyone on Glocals comes accessorized with an expat benefits package.
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If you are on a budget, which I doubt, Organisations like HEKS, may be willing to give you some tips on immigration. Check out also for friends/contacts within your networks, perhaps there is an expert on immigration matters.
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I appreciate your light touch with this topic so far. For the most part, reading your posts have been an amusing diversion, but the section above touched a nerve. I don't know who your intended audience for this message is, but I would suggest you not make assumptions. Not everyone on Glocals comes accessorized with an expat benefits package.
misskate, Sep 25, 2008 @ 16:14
If you are on a budget, which I doubt, Organisations like HEKS, may be willing to give you some tips on immigration. Check out also for friends/contacts within your networks, perhaps there is an expert on immigration matters.
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I appreciate your light touch with this topic so far. For the most part, reading your posts have been an amusing diversion, but the section above touched a nerve. I don't know who your intended audience for this message is, but I would suggest you not make assumptions. Not everyone on Glocals comes accessorized with an expat benefits package.
misskate, Sep 25, 2008 @ 16:14
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