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Mortgage broker suggestion - buying rental property in France

Hi,


I am about to buy flat in France for renting out, keep living in Geneva. In any case I'll be taking CHF mortgage, not so sure about French vs Swiss banks. Does anybody have an experience with this? Ideally recommend somebody reliable who recommends the best mortgage for me from current offers on market (I do get he will be after his fee primarily, but in all professions, there are better and worse candidates).


If you have any kind of info for this situation, thank you in advance for sharing it.


Cheers

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Hi,


I am about to buy flat in France for renting out, keep living in Geneva. In any case I'll be taking CHF mortgage, not so sure about French vs Swiss banks. Does anybody have an experience with this? Ideally recommend somebody reliable who recommends the best mortgage for me from current offers on market (I do get he will be after his fee primarily, but in all professions, there are better and worse candidates).


If you have any kind of info for this situation, thank you in advance for sharing it.


Cheers


Martin FSep 15, 2015 @ 16:53
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bearded09, Sep 18, 2015 @ 22:10
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Hi Martin


A good friend, Jean-Marie, is a mortgage broker in Geneva for Credit Agricole. He was previously based in Haute Savoie so knows the cross border issues well. He is French but fluent English speaker from education in the US.


PM me if you want his contact details.


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Woodhouse Carpentry & Custom Furniture


www.wood-house.ch

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Hi Martin


A good friend, Jean-Marie, is a mortgage broker in Geneva for Credit Agricole. He was previously based in Haute Savoie so knows the cross border issues well. He is French but fluent English speaker from education in the US.


PM me if you want his contact details.


Regards


Sam


 


 


Woodhouse Carpentry & Custom Furniture


www.wood-house.ch


SamW, Sep 20, 2015 @ 17:48
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Speak with Aymeric from Allianz Insurance (he's dedicated to glocals members). He's not a broker, but he was able to provide the lowest rate for several people I know. 


Aymeric Brossard <[email protected]>

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Speak with Aymeric from Allianz Insurance (he's dedicated to glocals members). He's not a broker, but he was able to provide the lowest rate for several people I know. 


Aymeric Brossard <[email protected]>


Nir Ofek, Sep 20, 2015 @ 20:28
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hi, why not?


I earn in CHF, and taking EUR would mean exposing myself to potential future rise of euro (ie to previous levels) and hence steep hike in my monthly payments.


Or you mean take a french bank instead of a Swiss one?


 


(I am not an expert, those are honest questions :))


thank you

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hi, why not?


I earn in CHF, and taking EUR would mean exposing myself to potential future rise of euro (ie to previous levels) and hence steep hike in my monthly payments.


Or you mean take a french bank instead of a Swiss one?


 


(I am not an expert, those are honest questions :))


thank you


Martin F, Sep 22, 2015 @ 19:57
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Hi,


sorry for late reply. What you mention are valid concerns, but there is other view on them.


Why I want CHF mortgage - I "lock" my situation, monthly payments will be predictable, no nasty, nor great surprises. Stability. With current exchange rate, which is still ridiculously low compared to... basically anytime.


EURO mortgage - swings up & down, nervosity. How much does a peace of mind costs? Mine quite a bit... I am not a nervous person, and do not enjoy being one. Locking a currency forward for 1 year has llittle meaning for somebody talking about 25-year mortgage.


If CHF will get stronger than EURO, long term, that is not a catastrophe for me, but a blessing (job security ignored for simplicity, since there is no real job security anyway). It means all my other earnings, which are much more than just some holiday apartment mortgage downpayments, are appreciating on global scale. And my fiancee's earnings are doing the same (we don't live in Bern or Zurich, euro strength has real effect on how much one can buy).


On the other hand, if CHF will get weaker, it's at least not such a massive clusterf**k for my finances, since this apartment will be a +-stable cash flow, and this one will become a really good investment (maybe :))


So that's my simplistic view. Maybe flawed one, but to me it makes sense. If you see a big hole in my logic, I am more than happy to learn it :)


Thank you all for feedback!

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Hi,


sorry for late reply. What you mention are valid concerns, but there is other view on them.


Why I want CHF mortgage - I "lock" my situation, monthly payments will be predictable, no nasty, nor great surprises. Stability. With current exchange rate, which is still ridiculously low compared to... basically anytime.


EURO mortgage - swings up & down, nervosity. How much does a peace of mind costs? Mine quite a bit... I am not a nervous person, and do not enjoy being one. Locking a currency forward for 1 year has llittle meaning for somebody talking about 25-year mortgage.


If CHF will get stronger than EURO, long term, that is not a catastrophe for me, but a blessing (job security ignored for simplicity, since there is no real job security anyway). It means all my other earnings, which are much more than just some holiday apartment mortgage downpayments, are appreciating on global scale. And my fiancee's earnings are doing the same (we don't live in Bern or Zurich, euro strength has real effect on how much one can buy).


On the other hand, if CHF will get weaker, it's at least not such a massive clusterf**k for my finances, since this apartment will be a +-stable cash flow, and this one will become a really good investment (maybe :))


So that's my simplistic view. Maybe flawed one, but to me it makes sense. If you see a big hole in my logic, I am more than happy to learn it :)


Thank you all for feedback!


Martin F, Sep 28, 2015 @ 22:07
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