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I've been reading various things about crossing the border with France in the Swiss news. As I understand it, we now need a clear "PCR test" less than 72 hours old to cross the border.


There seems to be conflicting information about if this test is free or not, does anyone know how we can get it for free or covered by health insurance, if there are no symptoms? 


There is a note here but no explanation:


"New from 28 January 2021:



 In certain situations people without symptoms are also to be tested. The goal of this strategy is to detect infections early and thus prevent large-scale outbreaks."



 https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/testen.html


 


 

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I've been reading various things about crossing the border with France in the Swiss news. As I understand it, we now need a clear "PCR test" less than 72 hours old to cross the border.


There seems to be conflicting information about if this test is free or not, does anyone know how we can get it for free or covered by health insurance, if there are no symptoms? 


There is a note here but no explanation:


"New from 28 January 2021:



 In certain situations people without symptoms are also to be tested. The goal of this strategy is to detect infections early and thus prevent large-scale outbreaks."



 https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/testen.html


 


 


Sean CFeb 1, 2021 @ 10:31
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And if we have to pay, how much does it cost and what is the turnaround time for a test?

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And if we have to pay, how much does it cost and what is the turnaround time for a test?


Sean C, Feb 1, 2021 @ 10:31
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OK this is clear, so the question is how much is it?


"The federal government will not cover the costs of the test if:



You need a negative test result for travel."
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OK this is clear, so the question is how much is it?


"The federal government will not cover the costs of the test if:



You need a negative test result for travel."

Sean C, Feb 1, 2021 @ 10:33
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https://www.rts.ch/info/monde/11935706-travailleurs-et-residents-frontaliers-pas-concernes-par-les-tests-pcr-a-la-frontiere-francaise.html

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https://www.rts.ch/info/monde/11935706-travailleurs-et-residents-frontaliers-pas-concernes-par-les-tests-pcr-a-la-frontiere-francaise.html


TogJay, Feb 1, 2021 @ 12:57
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https://www.ge.ch/covid-19-se-faire-tester/prise-charge-financiere-du-test

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TogJay, Feb 1, 2021 @ 13:05
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Thank you @TogJay


I see this - so I wonder what they cost.


5. Covering the costs of the screening test

Testing is free of charge and costs will be covered by the Confederation :



If you have symptoms compatible with COVID-19
On the fifth day of your quarantine
Following a notification from the SwissCovid app.
At the request of the cantonal doctor's office (SMC)
When returning from a country with a new, more contagious strain of the virus.

Tests undertaken in anticipation of a trip abroad or upon an employer's request are not funded by the Confederation.


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Thank you @TogJay


I see this - so I wonder what they cost.


5. Covering the costs of the screening test

Testing is free of charge and costs will be covered by the Confederation :



If you have symptoms compatible with COVID-19
On the fifth day of your quarantine
Following a notification from the SwissCovid app.
At the request of the cantonal doctor's office (SMC)
When returning from a country with a new, more contagious strain of the virus.

Tests undertaken in anticipation of a trip abroad or upon an employer's request are not funded by the Confederation.



Sean C, Feb 1, 2021 @ 13:49
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From the RTS article: 



https://www.rts.ch/info/monde/11935706-travailleurs-et-residents-frontaliers-pas-concernes-par-les-tests-pcr-a-la-frontiere-francaise.html



" et des résidents des bassins de vie frontaliers dans un rayon de 30 km autour de leur domicile." 


Does this mean anyone living 30km from the French border is exempt?

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From the RTS article: 



https://www.rts.ch/info/monde/11935706-travailleurs-et-residents-frontaliers-pas-concernes-par-les-tests-pcr-a-la-frontiere-francaise.html



" et des résidents des bassins de vie frontaliers dans un rayon de 30 km autour de leur domicile." 


Does this mean anyone living 30km from the French border is exempt?


Sean C, Feb 1, 2021 @ 13:52
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https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/le-ministere-et-son-reseau/actualites-du-ministere/informations-coronavirus-covid-19/article/voyages-internationaux-communique-du-ministere-de-l-europe-et-des-affaires

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Sean C, Feb 1, 2021 @ 13:57
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I think this sums it up:


"À partir de dimanche 31 janvier 2021, toute entrée en France et toute sortie de notre territoire à destination ou en provenance d’un pays hors de l’espace européen (Union européenne, Andorre, Islande, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norvège, Saint-Marin, Saint-Siège et Suisse) seront interdites, sauf : motif impérieux d’ordre personnel ou familial, motif de santé relevant de l’urgence ou motif professionnel ne pouvant être différé."


 


Oh well

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I think this sums it up:


"À partir de dimanche 31 janvier 2021, toute entrée en France et toute sortie de notre territoire à destination ou en provenance d’un pays hors de l’espace européen (Union européenne, Andorre, Islande, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norvège, Saint-Marin, Saint-Siège et Suisse) seront interdites, sauf : motif impérieux d’ordre personnel ou familial, motif de santé relevant de l’urgence ou motif professionnel ne pouvant être différé."


 


Oh well


Sean C, Feb 1, 2021 @ 13:58
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This is dated 20th September  and answers some of the original questions on the top post, can’t really find anything more recent right now. Maybe it will take a day or two to be all updated.


https://www.rts.ch/info/suisse/11620831-depistage-du-coronavirus-quand-ou-et-comment.htmlt


Although there are more testing centres  in geneva now than they state then


https://www.hug.ch/coronavirus/centres-prelevements 


When I called my local pharmacy for an unrelated matter last week there was a pre-selection on the phone to talk to someone if you wanted to have a test done, so maybe it is possible at some pharmacies as well..?


For the cost  there  is a pdf down toward the end of the 2nd rts article  above,  ‘critères de l’OFSP.  with all sorts of details about cost (which looks a bit complicated to me on a  quick read, the large text doesn’t help easy reading for me personally ). 


I don’t know anyone thats had a test done so I'd be tempted to call one of the depistage centres, or my medical assurance for more details about the cost etc. I beieve it is refunded if asked for by a doctor and `I presume if you have the right symptoms or meet the  requirements In the testing centres.


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This is dated 20th September  and answers some of the original questions on the top post, can’t really find anything more recent right now. Maybe it will take a day or two to be all updated.


https://www.rts.ch/info/suisse/11620831-depistage-du-coronavirus-quand-ou-et-comment.htmlt


Although there are more testing centres  in geneva now than they state then


https://www.hug.ch/coronavirus/centres-prelevements 


When I called my local pharmacy for an unrelated matter last week there was a pre-selection on the phone to talk to someone if you wanted to have a test done, so maybe it is possible at some pharmacies as well..?


For the cost  there  is a pdf down toward the end of the 2nd rts article  above,  ‘critères de l’OFSP.  with all sorts of details about cost (which looks a bit complicated to me on a  quick read, the large text doesn’t help easy reading for me personally ). 


I don’t know anyone thats had a test done so I'd be tempted to call one of the depistage centres, or my medical assurance for more details about the cost etc. I beieve it is refunded if asked for by a doctor and `I presume if you have the right symptoms or meet the  requirements In the testing centres.



TogJay, Feb 1, 2021 @ 15:43
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From the RTS article: 

https://www.rts.ch/info/monde/11935706-travailleurs-et-residents-frontaliers-pas-concernes-par-les-tests-pcr-a-la-frontiere-francaise.html

" et des résidents des bassins de vie frontaliers dans un rayon de 30 km autour de leur domicile." 

Does this mean anyone living 30km from the French border is exempt?


Feb 1, 21 13:52
It seems so..
 

There was a first announcement on Friday by the French Prime Minister  that I think you cite above, that was not clear regarding Switzerland and further clarification was  discussed, then published and  given Sunday, which is explained In the first RTS link I posted

Here it is again. 

https://www.rts.ch/info/monde/11935706-travailleurs-et-residents-frontaliers-pas-concernes-par-les-tests-pcr-a-la-frontiere-francaise.html  The video at the top of the article explains it well. 

 

 I presume in Geneva we now have to fill In the ‘attestation de déplacement et de voyage’ (in that article or at https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actualites/L-actu-du-Ministere/Attestation-de-deplacement-et-de-voyage ), as proof of our proximity to the border ,as it seems  the previous ‘derogations de déplacement’ that the French and we had to use are no longer considered necessary for the French.

Maybe also mportant to note that there is also another attestation regarding the curfew (which is 18-6h), if need be, which is also on the French ministry link, above.
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It seems so..
 

There was a first announcement on Friday by the French Prime Minister  that I think you cite above, that was not clear regarding Switzerland and further clarification was  discussed, then published and  given Sunday, which is explained In the first RTS link I posted

Here it is again. 

https://www.rts.ch/info/monde/11935706-travailleurs-et-residents-frontaliers-pas-concernes-par-les-tests-pcr-a-la-frontiere-francaise.html  The video at the top of the article explains it well. 

 

 I presume in Geneva we now have to fill In the ‘attestation de déplacement et de voyage’ (in that article or at https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actualites/L-actu-du-Ministere/Attestation-de-deplacement-et-de-voyage ), as proof of our proximity to the border ,as it seems  the previous ‘derogations de déplacement’ that the French and we had to use are no longer considered necessary for the French.

Maybe also mportant to note that there is also another attestation regarding the curfew (which is 18-6h), if need be, which is also on the French ministry link, above.

TogJay, Feb 1, 2021 @ 16:13
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For some reason the text above has come out  smaller and different sizes in text, than I wrote.. not sure why.. must be a bug on the site..

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For some reason the text above has come out  smaller and different sizes in text, than I wrote.. not sure why.. must be a bug on the site..


TogJay, Feb 1, 2021 @ 16:16
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If you live in the region, you don't need to be tested : https://www.tdg.ch/les-bassins-de-vie-transfrontaliers-sont-exemptes-de-test-459769356759

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If you live in the region, you don't need to be tested : https://www.tdg.ch/les-bassins-de-vie-transfrontaliers-sont-exemptes-de-test-459769356759


Philippe D, Feb 1, 2021 @ 23:02
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Philippe D is right. If you cross the border within 30km distance from your home, no need to make a test. It's advised to bring a proof of the address of residence.

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Philippe D is right. If you cross the border within 30km distance from your home, no need to make a test. It's advised to bring a proof of the address of residence.


Alexandre P, Feb 1, 2021 @ 23:08
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Thank yoi Philippe and Alexandre. I thought this applied to people living in France who crossed into Suisse, not the reverse. Undecided

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Thank yoi Philippe and Alexandre. I thought this applied to people living in France who crossed into Suisse, not the reverse. Undecided


Sean C, Feb 1, 2021 @ 23:21
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Sean's quote at 13h58 is the correct one.  However it also states that any visit is stongly discouraged and it depends on who stops you.  British passport holders are not even mentioned - probably because they don't like us -. I put it down to Agincourt but if you are in a Swiss registered car AND have a British passport you might get stopped by a jobsworthy who wnat s refvenge for something.  30 km is not very far. If it counts from the border you can go to col de la Faucille but not la Vattay; les Gets but not Morzine and even if you are within the 30km limit, shopping, hiking orm just driving around is not an important motif.   There are plenty of places to go in Switzerland - or simply stay at home


En ce qui concerne l’espace européen (Union européenne, Andorre, Islande, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norvège, Saint-Marin, Saint-Siège et Suisse), tout déplacement international - depuis l’étranger vers la France et de France vers l’étranger - reste totalement et strictement déconseillé jusqu’à nouvel ordre.

Lorsqu’un déplacement pour motif impérieux est malgré tout nécessaire, il convient de respecter les mesures contraignantes mises en place à l’entrée sur le territoire français dans l’objectif de limiter la propagation du virus.

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Sean's quote at 13h58 is the correct one.  However it also states that any visit is stongly discouraged and it depends on who stops you.  British passport holders are not even mentioned - probably because they don't like us -. I put it down to Agincourt but if you are in a Swiss registered car AND have a British passport you might get stopped by a jobsworthy who wnat s refvenge for something.  30 km is not very far. If it counts from the border you can go to col de la Faucille but not la Vattay; les Gets but not Morzine and even if you are within the 30km limit, shopping, hiking orm just driving around is not an important motif.   There are plenty of places to go in Switzerland - or simply stay at home


En ce qui concerne l’espace européen (Union européenne, Andorre, Islande, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norvège, Saint-Marin, Saint-Siège et Suisse), tout déplacement international - depuis l’étranger vers la France et de France vers l’étranger - reste totalement et strictement déconseillé jusqu’à nouvel ordre.

Lorsqu’un déplacement pour motif impérieux est malgré tout nécessaire, il convient de respecter les mesures contraignantes mises en place à l’entrée sur le territoire français dans l’objectif de limiter la propagation du virus.


Paul E, Feb 1, 2021 @ 23:35
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I'll try crossing in the next few days and see how it goes.

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I'll try crossing in the next few days and see how it goes.


Sean C, Feb 2, 2021 @ 08:01
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Apparently there are no checks.


 


https://lenews.ch/2021/02/01/covid-no-systematic-checks-at-swiss-french-borders/

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Apparently there are no checks.


 


https://lenews.ch/2021/02/01/covid-no-systematic-checks-at-swiss-french-borders/


Sean C, Feb 2, 2021 @ 10:47
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The drama continues ... https://www.tdg.ch/gare-a-lamende-aux-douanes-les-gabelous-veillent-300155343377

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The drama continues ... https://www.tdg.ch/gare-a-lamende-aux-douanes-les-gabelous-veillent-300155343377


Sean C, Feb 3, 2021 @ 15:11
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Unfortunately I can't access the artivcle so cannot comment..


Did the people concerned not have proof of their address within the 30km limit, or an attestation with them?

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Unfortunately I can't access the artivcle so cannot comment..


Did the people concerned not have proof of their address within the 30km limit, or an attestation with them?


TogJay, Feb 3, 2021 @ 15:46
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Well I cross the border at Ferney today - no police from either country.

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Well I cross the border at Ferney today - no police from either country.


Sean C, Feb 6, 2021 @ 23:24
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Has anyone crossed the border to Divonne lately,  Were there any checks


at the border?  How did you verify your address?


 


thank you in advance

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Has anyone crossed the border to Divonne lately,  Were there any checks


at the border?  How did you verify your address?


 


thank you in advance


david017, Mar 18, 2021 @ 10:32
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I've crossed both the Ferney and Annemasse borders many times. Sometimes there are guards, but I have never been stopped.


I think there is a 15km perminter rule, which would include all of Geneva, but I'm not sure what the latest rules are.


 

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I've crossed both the Ferney and Annemasse borders many times. Sometimes there are guards, but I have never been stopped.


I think there is a 15km perminter rule, which would include all of Geneva, but I'm not sure what the latest rules are.


 


Sean C, Mar 18, 2021 @ 12:47
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The rule is pretty simple: 30km radius from your place of residence.


For example, this means that if you live in Lausanne you can't enter France without a PCR test.


If you live in Geneva you can enter France, but you should stay within the 30kn radius.


 

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The rule is pretty simple: 30km radius from your place of residence.


For example, this means that if you live in Lausanne you can't enter France without a PCR test.


If you live in Geneva you can enter France, but you should stay within the 30kn radius.


 


nmcp, Mar 21, 2021 @ 17:10
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Here's a useful tool for calculating the radius.

https://www.calcmaps.com/fr/map-radius/


There's also a max. 24h limit. 


Small correction: some parts of Haut-Savoie *are* within the 30km radius of Lausanne.

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Here's a useful tool for calculating the radius.

https://www.calcmaps.com/fr/map-radius/


There's also a max. 24h limit. 


Small correction: some parts of Haut-Savoie *are* within the 30km radius of Lausanne.


nmcp, Mar 21, 2021 @ 17:16
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Not completely.


You can go 30km from your home, as the crow flies.


So  if you live in Geneva, you can go to e.g. Bellegarde.


But if you live in Morges, you can only go to Divonne. (Or you can swim accross to Evian)

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Not completely.


You can go 30km from your home, as the crow flies.


So  if you live in Geneva, you can go to e.g. Bellegarde.


But if you live in Morges, you can only go to Divonne. (Or you can swim accross to Evian)


tawb, Mar 23, 2021 @ 19:00
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Sorry, I wasn't replying to a recent message, please ignore.

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Sorry, I wasn't replying to a recent message, please ignore.


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I live in Nyon and went to Divonne.  I had ID and proof of residence and the


form to fill in for the French police.  I was not stopped. 


thanks for all the helpful info, people in Glocals are great!

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I live in Nyon and went to Divonne.  I had ID and proof of residence and the


form to fill in for the French police.  I was not stopped. 


thanks for all the helpful info, people in Glocals are great!


david017, Mar 24, 2021 @ 07:50
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Can someone confirm that the form mentioned in the david017's post above is still necfessary? I thought it was only necessary to have passport and proof of adresss and provided you live within 30km of your destination that is sufficient.


  The 30km rule was introduced to enable Swiss residents to travel over the border for shoppoing and boot the econopmy in greater Geneva . Simila<r system to what existed between USA and Mexico in the 70's, maybe still does

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Can someone confirm that the form mentioned in the david017's post above is still necfessary? I thought it was only necessary to have passport and proof of adresss and provided you live within 30km of your destination that is sufficient.


  The 30km rule was introduced to enable Swiss residents to travel over the border for shoppoing and boot the econopmy in greater Geneva . Simila<r system to what existed between USA and Mexico in the 70's, maybe still does


Paul E, Mar 24, 2021 @ 08:54
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Do you know if I go from Switzerland to Poland via Germany, do I need any test to cross Germany? I would like to highlight I am not stopping at Germany at any moment, I will be just crossing this country on my way to Poland?

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Do you know if I go from Switzerland to Poland via Germany, do I need any test to cross Germany? I would like to highlight I am not stopping at Germany at any moment, I will be just crossing this country on my way to Poland?


Kris R, Mar 25, 2021 @ 19:24
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As was passing the border post at Moillesulaz (followeing the foron river and stayin in Switzerland, I decided to ask a French gendarme what was possible.  He told me


1. You need a passport and proof of address eg a recent letter


2. You are allowed to travel 10 km as the crow flies from your adress in Switzerland and they have an app which can check this easily. So If you live in Bernex you can go to val Thoiry but you cannot go to Etrembières


3. Groups for hiking have to be 6 max but you can always split into two groups - however it is not clear by how much you are separated.  This means you can go up the Saleve depending on where you live in Geneva. Between the city centre and Veyrier no problem; Hermance - no; Bernex - touch and go; airport no.  https://fr.mappy.com/covid/calcul-zone


But then to confuse matters there is thiswhich I dare not comment on


https://www.leparisien.fr/sports/confinement-la-regle-des-10-km-passe-a-30-pour-le-sport-amateur-09-04-2021-UHAJI53NNJCDTPU5MO3KNFQIZA.php


 

The text you are quoting:

As was passing the border post at Moillesulaz (followeing the foron river and stayin in Switzerland, I decided to ask a French gendarme what was possible.  He told me


1. You need a passport and proof of address eg a recent letter


2. You are allowed to travel 10 km as the crow flies from your adress in Switzerland and they have an app which can check this easily. So If you live in Bernex you can go to val Thoiry but you cannot go to Etrembières


3. Groups for hiking have to be 6 max but you can always split into two groups - however it is not clear by how much you are separated.  This means you can go up the Saleve depending on where you live in Geneva. Between the city centre and Veyrier no problem; Hermance - no; Bernex - touch and go; airport no.  https://fr.mappy.com/covid/calcul-zone


But then to confuse matters there is thiswhich I dare not comment on


https://www.leparisien.fr/sports/confinement-la-regle-des-10-km-passe-a-30-pour-le-sport-amateur-09-04-2021-UHAJI53NNJCDTPU5MO3KNFQIZA.php


 


Paul E, Apr 11, 2021 @ 17:46
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