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Just spotted this and thought of all the UN assignments.  Are they paid positions?

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Just spotted this and thought of all the UN assignments.  Are they paid positions?


richardmSep 9, 2013 @ 18:45
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Doubt it....even have a look at the jobs listing on here...a couple which to me are positions where they just don't want to pay you - all under the guise of 'internship'.

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Doubt it....even have a look at the jobs listing on here...a couple which to me are positions where they just don't want to pay you - all under the guise of 'internship'.


Jeffery S, Sep 10, 2013 @ 09:57
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Some students are supported by their institutes and some programmes provide a stipend for living expenses, neither of these cover the full cost of stay. Some of the larger UN organizations do try to help the student interns find additional funding ... It's a tough gig but worth it in the end

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Some students are supported by their institutes and some programmes provide a stipend for living expenses, neither of these cover the full cost of stay. Some of the larger UN organizations do try to help the student interns find additional funding ... It's a tough gig but worth it in the end


Dhamari N, Sep 10, 2013 @ 10:21
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in the real world, your value and worth is based on what you are paid! too many companies/organisations are getting man/womanpower for free under the guise of "internships" with no real professional outcome for the "intern". if you acceopt an internship with 0 pay, that is exactly how your worth and value will be judged by others. sad but true. poeple are paid what they are esteemed to be worth, and if you accpt to be "paid" nothing, that's what you appear to be worth. UN and NGO organisations live in a "bubble" and often have no real conception of what goes on in the commercial "rat race". ooooh this is gonna raise some eyebrowse, but, i've always been controversial.

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in the real world, your value and worth is based on what you are paid! too many companies/organisations are getting man/womanpower for free under the guise of "internships" with no real professional outcome for the "intern". if you acceopt an internship with 0 pay, that is exactly how your worth and value will be judged by others. sad but true. poeple are paid what they are esteemed to be worth, and if you accpt to be "paid" nothing, that's what you appear to be worth. UN and NGO organisations live in a "bubble" and often have no real conception of what goes on in the commercial "rat race". ooooh this is gonna raise some eyebrowse, but, i've always been controversial.


epicure, Sep 10, 2013 @ 10:39
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If you learn a transferable skill from an internship it can be of great value, you're getting educated for free. This goes above and beyond volunteering your time.


If you're just pushing papers and filing, you're doing a 'job' for free. Some people like the idea of just being associated with the 'brand'. Whether this translates well on a resume or not I don't know.


I do know students who have interned at the WHO with zero help for food, accommodation or transportation. Considering the WHO's mission statement and employee's exorbent salaries, I think that's disgusting.

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If you learn a transferable skill from an internship it can be of great value, you're getting educated for free. This goes above and beyond volunteering your time.


If you're just pushing papers and filing, you're doing a 'job' for free. Some people like the idea of just being associated with the 'brand'. Whether this translates well on a resume or not I don't know.


I do know students who have interned at the WHO with zero help for food, accommodation or transportation. Considering the WHO's mission statement and employee's exorbent salaries, I think that's disgusting.


no.38, Sep 10, 2013 @ 12:43
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Speaking from experience, no UN body pays their interns at all except the ILO.

If you receive a stipend then you are probably in their system as a consultant rather than an intern.


It can be worth it for the networking, and depending on the job for the experience too, but since the UN can't "make" a position for you like the private sector can, it's really worth it more to have the UN on your resume rather than a shot at employment after the internship.

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Speaking from experience, no UN body pays their interns at all except the ILO.

If you receive a stipend then you are probably in their system as a consultant rather than an intern.


It can be worth it for the networking, and depending on the job for the experience too, but since the UN can't "make" a position for you like the private sector can, it's really worth it more to have the UN on your resume rather than a shot at employment after the internship.


Marissa M, Sep 12, 2013 @ 11:14
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I have noticed that more and more companies are just taking advantage of the job market by saying that they will 'train you' and give you work experience. In other words why quibble about the fact that you are not receiving a salary, just be grateful to be working. There is a word for this - slavery. 

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I have noticed that more and more companies are just taking advantage of the job market by saying that they will 'train you' and give you work experience. In other words why quibble about the fact that you are not receiving a salary, just be grateful to be working. There is a word for this - slavery. 


delseta9_, Sep 12, 2013 @ 15:39
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I have noticed that more and more companies are just taking advantage of the job market by saying that they will 'train you' and give you work experience. In other words why quibble about the fact that you are not receiving a salary, just be grateful to be working. There is a word for this - slavery. 


Sep 12, 13 15:39

 


This practice was much in vogue in CH in the mini “depression” of the 1950’s.  A similar dodge was to hire young secretarial staff on a “trial” basis of 2-3 months.  Asked to tackle routine admin. jobs such as, say, a mountain of invoicing or similar work, the youngster would beaver away, never be late, keep the head down, etc.,  to make a good impression in the hope of getting a permanent job – only to be told at the end of the “trial” that he/she was “unsuitable” after all.


 So, much disappointment for the young person while the employer could sit back knowing the backlog had been cleared at minimal cost and continue to operate with minimal staff until the next time extra help was needed and yet another job-seeker would be hired on “trial”.


Plus ça change …

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This practice was much in vogue in CH in the mini “depression” of the 1950’s.  A similar dodge was to hire young secretarial staff on a “trial” basis of 2-3 months.  Asked to tackle routine admin. jobs such as, say, a mountain of invoicing or similar work, the youngster would beaver away, never be late, keep the head down, etc.,  to make a good impression in the hope of getting a permanent job – only to be told at the end of the “trial” that he/she was “unsuitable” after all.


 So, much disappointment for the young person while the employer could sit back knowing the backlog had been cleared at minimal cost and continue to operate with minimal staff until the next time extra help was needed and yet another job-seeker would be hired on “trial”.


Plus ça change …


Ritchie, Sep 12, 2013 @ 17:02
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I have also noticed similar ads in the Glocals Job section, shame on the guilty parties!

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I have also noticed similar ads in the Glocals Job section, shame on the guilty parties!


delseta9_, Sep 12, 2013 @ 17:05
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