Well to be 100% sure you can go to any Indian restaurant. this is the only gurantee of getting really cooked , hot  vegetarian food. Other restaurants will just serve you SALADS in form of vegetarian dishes :-) or some boiled vegetables :-)
Chap, Nov 2, 2008 @ 00:08

Here is a list from the Swiss vegetarian association. HTH

Aux deux portes, 11, rue Schaub, 1202 Genève, Tel: +41 22 734 11 22 , Fax: +41 41 733 70 09
Vous trouvez: un repas végétaliens à emporter. - grande variété de salades, petits plats, sandwiches... - desserts sans sucre, sans gluten - gâteaux d`anniversaires, apéritifs et banquets sur commande et tout cela, sans produit laitier, oeuf ou produit raffiné, confectionné de facon artisanale avec des produits issus de l`agriculture biologique, et non transgéniques! en plus: - grand choix de céréales, pâtes, légumineuses, produits à base de soja, seitan, tempeh, algues, etc. - fruits et légumes frais de l`agriculture biologique - pain du "Foumil de la Ferme" mais encore: - l`occasion de s`attabler pour déguster nos préparations sur place. - possibilité de feuilleter divers livres et périodiques en dégustant une tasse de thé de 3 ans... - approche de la macrobiotique en suivant nos ateliers de cuisine. Vous proposez aussi und cuisine végétalienne, une alimtentation biologique et des ateliers de cuisine. Estimer!
Restaurant: lundi au vendredi 9.30-14.30 / 16.30-19.30; Marchés de Genève: jeudi 16-20 / samedi 8-13.
C'est super bon, surtout la crème au Yannoh (dessert) et le boursin de tofu! Mais il y a plein d'autres choses très intéressantes, faites maison ce qui est rare, ainsi qu'un très bon choix d'autres produits végétaliens. Vraiment à recommander. [5] De: Lorenzita / 2008-02-27

Selam, Rue du Prieuré 22, 1202 Genève, Tel: 022/731 7870
Cuisine éthiopienne et érythréenne avec spécialités végétariennes. Estimer!
Lu-Di 11- 12pm.

Gazelle d'Or, Rue de Lyon 55, 1203 Genève, Tel: 022/ 340 3398
Cuisine éthiopienne et érythréenne avec plats végétariens et végétaliens. Estimer!
Lu-Di 11 am -2 am.
Cadre vraiment très très typique, toute la famille est aux fournaux ou au service! On mange en commun, avec les doigts et autour d'une table-plateau tressé. [8] De: Michel / 2003-01-22
Ce restaurant est très acceuillant avec un service chaleureux, ils ont plusiers bons choix végé et un menu végétarien. Les plats sont servis d'après le style traditionel dans un plat commun, si vous êtes très strict, il faut préciser en avance. [8] De: Nisha / 2002-09-09

Jardin de Villars, Rue Liotard 75, 1203 Genève, Tel: 022/ 340 7412
Plats végétariens et menu végétarien. Estimer!
Lu-Sa for midday (closed in the evening).
La cuisine est simple mais très bonne, servit très généreureusement, un repas suffit pour la journée en entier. Le cadre fait un peu cantine. Le personnel es très sympa. Le repas est bon marché [6] De: Pierre / 2006-08-19

Brasserie/Restaurant "Lipp", rue de la Confédération 8, 1204 Genève, Tel: 022 / 311 10 11 , Fax: 022 / 312 01 04, www.brasserie-lipp.com
Confédération Centre (2ème étage), avec jolie terrasse couverte. Plats à la carte Fr. 20/25,–. Cuisine jusqu'à minuit trente. 7 jours/7, y compris Estimer!

Café/Restaurant "Le Kid", blvd Carl-Vogt 99, 1205 Genève, Tel: 022 / 320 44 96
Cuisine végétarienne réputée. Rapport qualité-prix exceptionnel. Plat du jour Fr. 13,– Menu du jour Fr 15,–. A la carte, grand choix de mets végétariens avec indication de leurs catégories, intéressant surtout les végétaliens! Jolie terrasse en été. Fermé samedi midi et dimanche. Estimer!
Menus sympatiques et pas trop lourds [7] De: Karen Steinbach / 2005-01-17
sehr schöne terrasse, freundliche bedienung, leider sehr lange wartezeiten. für veganer wie ich gibt es drei menüs zur auswahl. es ist nicht rein vegetarisch und deshalb muss man sich mit dem fleischgeruch vom nachbarstisch anfreunden. [7] De: claudia / 2003-09-01
Super sympatische bewirtung [10] De: jean-marc / 2001-06-26

Café-restaurant Les Recyclables, Frederik Sjollema, 53, rue de Carouge, 1205 Genève, Tel: 022 328 23 73 , Fax: 022 328 23 75, [email protected], www.recyclables.ch
Au moins un plat végétarien tous les jours: une assiette végétarienne variant selon les plaisirs et les saisons. Délicieuses pâtisseries qui, elles aussi, se réinventent au fil des jours. Une terrasse à l’ombre ou au soleil durant les beaux jours. Estimer!
Lu-Sa 9.00-23.00.
Cadre sympa comme tout ( librairie ), équipe chaleureuse autant qu'efficace, très bonne cuisine " comme à la maison ", avec trois menus à choix, prix exceptionnels pour la qualité, et puis NON FUMEURS, ce qui en fait un de mes points de rencontre favoris [8] De: volkoff-peschon / 2006-02-27

Sunset, Rue St-Léger 3, 1205 Genève, Tel: 022/ 320 1513
Assiette végétarienne, plats végétariens et salades copieuses. Estimer!
Lu- Ve 7.30-18.00.

Café/Restaurant "Le Darshana", rue Adrien-Lachenal 5, 1207 Genève, Tel: 022 / 736 36 48 , http://www.assiettegenevoise.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=152:le-darshana&catid=
Restaurant indien. Grande variété de délicieux mets indiens, y compris des soupes et des desserts végétariens et végétaliens. Buffet à midi et plats à la carte le soir entre Fr. 8 et Fr. 30. Ouvert le soir à partir de 19h. Fermé le dimanche. Estimer!

L'éveil, 80 route de chêne, 1224 Chêne-Bougeries, Tel: 022 700 05 30 , [email protected], www.leveil.ch
Café Bio. Estimer!
Lundi au vendredi: 8 à 19h, samedi: 8 à 17h.

Grain de Vie - centre macrobiotique, François et Sosoa Gisel, Chemin Sur-Rang 9, Pinchat, 1234 Vessy-Genève, Tel: 022/ 343 5490 , Fax: 022/ 300 3279
Table d'hôte le mercredi midi et vendredi. Généralement végétalien, mais préciser lors dela réservation. Magasin bio ouvert lu-sa (jusqu'à midi). Estimer!
we at midday and Ve evening.
Cuisine macrobiotique tres soignee, prix corrects, differents plats chaque fois, réservation nécessaire [8] De: Tony Scherrer / 2002-09-04

Auberge de Choully, Route du Crêt-de-Choully 19, 1242 Choully/Satigny, Tel: 022 / 753 12 03
Plat du jour végétarien (Fr 16,50) et à la carte (+/- Fr 25,-). Terrasse et jardin ombragés dans région des vignes du Mandement. Ouvert toute l'année 7 jours/7. Estimer!

Auberge de Floris, Claude Legras, Rte d'Hermance 287, 1247 Anières, Tel: 022/751 2020 , Fax: 022/751 2250
Restaurant gastronomique proposant un excellent menu végétarien. Estimer!
Ma-Sa midday and evening.
Menu végétarien excellent autant pour les yeux que pour les papilles. [10] De: Schultheiss Nicole / 2007-01-05

Paxxie, Nov 4, 2008 @ 16:53

WOW.. thanks very much Paxxie!!! I didn't even know there was a Swiss vegetarian association!!! I am definitely going to try them out.



There are any veggies out there, I'd be happy to go veggie restaurant hopping together.



:)
Raistlyn, Nov 4, 2008 @ 21:03

I'm a vegetarian and would love to connect with others. Did you know that this month is Vegan month of food. I'm not quite a vegan - still like a bit of dairy now and again - but I'm up for organising a dinner to celebrate this if anyone is interested.
lentil, Nov 5, 2008 @ 00:03

Me, too! I'd love to participate in a veggies' night out! If you happen to go to Basel, there is a place called Tidbits which is an all veg. cafe with a cool modern vibe. I walked in and was THRILLED when I realized everything was veg.
Brooklyn, Nov 7, 2008 @ 19:12

Yes yes yes!

I will join you!

But untill now I was almost always disappointed with veggie dishes in Geneva!

And you can't always have cheese fondue ;-)
Katja, Nov 7, 2008 @ 19:36

[quote][b]

Katja (07/11/2008)[/b]



But untill now I was almost always disappointed with veggie dishes in Geneva!

And you can't always have cheese fondue ;-)[/quote]



Katja, was it you that we were having this conversation with a few weeks ago (IRL)? How there were disappointingly few vegetarian places in Geneva? I was trying to remember that when I saw this thread in the beginning.



The problem is that you can't always have cheese fondue -- you can have it once. And leave clutching your stomach in agony going that's the last time I ever have cheese fondue. And 6 months later you have cheese fondue again. GOTO 10. Or, if you don't eat mammalian rennet, you can't even get that far.



Anyway, yeah -- some vegetarian event would likely get 10 Hayes approval points.
hayes, Nov 7, 2008 @ 20:00

Hey, I'm thinking the whole day about having cheese fondue tomorrow or not!
Katja, Nov 7, 2008 @ 20:14

I'm not a vegetarian but I came across an amazing restaurant in Zurich which is strictly vegetarian.  Absolutely delicious cuisine and well presented for a reasonable price.  They also sell cookbooks of what they serve in their resto.  Their white curry is to die for! 

Haus Hiltl
http://www.hiltl.ch/en/index.php

Best of luck!  :)
magenta, Nov 7, 2008 @ 23:01

Hey, since there is some interest, shall we all choose a place and do a veggie nights out?? We can go try out all the different places and the perhaps along the way we will discover new places we never knew had great veggie options :)



Any suggestions for our first outing? We can do it next Tuesday or Friday.



I am going to try a Chinese restaurant tomorrow night called Hangzhou. Its supposed to have a full vegetarian menu so I am crossing my fingers will be good :) Will update everyone how it goes!
Raistlyn, Nov 7, 2008 @ 23:46

I would like to join but I don't have time untill the 18.11.



So maybe I will join you next time and would prefer to try one in Geneva 1202 or 1203 because I don't know them.



Brief review about the one I've tried:



Brasserie Lipp

Kind of traditionnal french style brasserie. It's ok but not really a vegetarian place even if they have one or two v-dishes which is already a lot for Geneva.



Le Kid

Nice and cosy, maybe a bit expansive.

You can order traditionnal meat dishes and they replace the meat with soya or cereals. For exemple Lasagne Bolognese it with saitan...



Recyclable

Very nice cafe and restaurant place with bio products. Unhappily not open late (till 20.30h) and not open on sundays. Good selected library with second hand books in french, english and german nest to it.



Sunset

Unhappily only open untill 18h during the week so I only had breakfast there.

Katja, Nov 8, 2008 @ 10:40

I went on a vegetarian gourmet excursion to the Hiltl in Zurich a couple of years ago. It is very good, so much choice, a rare thing to experience in a restaurant when you're a vegetarian. It would be great to see something similar in Geneva ...

Am free next Friday so would be happy to meet for a vegetarian meal.

I picked up a copy of "Le renard sur la lune", a guide to Geneva mentioned on another thread. It lists a few restaurants that offer vegetarian food (in the evening) including a few I hadn't thought of before. So we'll have plenty of choice for our 1st meal.

Any preferences? Swiss, French, Indian, Asian, other
lentil, Nov 8, 2008 @ 16:59

Let's try something other than Indian (I do like Indian food, but it is the default choice for veggies, and I'd like to try something new). For me Tuesdays are ok, but only after 8:30 as I have a class until 8.

:)

Brooklyn, Nov 8, 2008 @ 19:39

I just got back from a veggie meal at Hangzhou which is a chinese restaurant with a very small veggie section.. My verdict? Its not too bad but perhaps because I have had really amazing chinese veggie food back home in Singapore that I was not blown away by what they could muster up... I tried the seasonable veggies which were alright. I was expecting leafy greens but I guess maybe i was hoping for too much. The Tofu a la thailandaise was also ok, as were the dumplings.



But the service was excellent :) The owners were personable and very warm and even gave us a free dish of "mock chicken" made of tofu skin :)



I am good to meet either Tuesdays or Fridays, but would actually prefer Friday... I have heard good things about La Caravanne Passe which is a Lebanese restaurant at Rue Docteur Alfred Vincent 11. Anyone tried it? If not, shall we go try that?





Raistlyn, Nov 8, 2008 @ 23:52

Veggie nights out sounds like a great idea! I'd love to join as well if that's ok.



charlotta, Nov 9, 2008 @ 12:09

Veggie night out sounds good!

I am not a strict vegetarian since I eat fish (which are vegetables in Calcutta :)) However, in Geneva, or even in most western countries that translates to vegetarian, since I really have a hard time paying ~15 CHF for a little piece of fish!

Anyway, It would be nice to form a group of people who can coincide in their version of vegetarian food choices (e.g vegan, lacto-ovo, and semi-vegetarians), and find and visit restaurants (prefer non-Indian) with vegetarian food. Possibly, this will encourage european restaurants to serve more than salad and boiled carrots as vegetarian 'dishes'.

Or does this group already exist and I just need to find out and join?
rpravahan, Nov 9, 2008 @ 12:46

[quote]Veggie night out sounds good!

I am not a strict vegetarian since I eat fish (which are vegetables in Calcutta :)) [/quote]





??? So following this definition there aren't any animals in the sea???



Katja, Nov 9, 2008 @ 13:02

"??? So following this definition there aren't any animals in the sea???"



Phew, relieved to hear this, since it must mean that I don't have to feel bad about eating fish anymore. I always had a feeling that fishes were a bit vegetable-like.

But what about sea food though? Are they also vegetables (please say yes)?
charlotta, Nov 9, 2008 @ 13:09

Here's the definition of vegetarianism from Wikipedia

"Vegetarianism is the practice of a diet that excludes meat (including game and slaughter by-products), fish (including shellfish and other sea animals) and poultry. There are several variants of the diet, some of which also exclude eggs and/or some products produced from animal labour such as dairy products and honey."



I don't have a problem with meeting up and people eating fish or seafood but then I wouldn't define the dinner as a vegetarian dinner. There is already enough confusion about what being vegetarian involves without our adding to it by having an activity that has "vegetarian" in the title but involves eating fish or seafood.

lentil, Nov 9, 2008 @ 13:28

Katja... no, there are animals in the sea, rivers, ponds and aquariums :)

I do not have anything against eating animals myself or others eating them. People are vegetarians because of many different reasons depending on culture, religion and personal convictions, rational or not. I do not eat meat, poultry etc. because it is a personal preference. Not because of religion or not eating 'animals'. As far as animals are concerned we are all here to be eaten one day by other organisms. And as far as 'life' is concerned even plants have life.

So, I eat fish because I was told, mostly as a child in Bengal, that people who eat fish are smarter ;) You see this cultural bias makes me eat fish and other seafood ( Yes, to Charlotta!) but does not apply to meat! You can say I have become smart enough to quit meat but not fish yet!

I think we can certainly find people who do the same thing, say eat vegetarian, to just eat vegetarian without really agreeing on why.

I agree to go out and eat vegan and be perfectly happy as long as the food is tasty!
rpravahan, Nov 9, 2008 @ 13:39

I just had a discussion with my sister about which animals people eat and which they don't ...

Some people only eat white meat and no red meat etc.

She's not a vegetarian but never really liked meat and we figured out that we don't like to eat from the one you can play with: dogs, cats, pigs (she used to play with pigs), horses etc.

I think you don't play with fish neither, don't you?

(By the way: Are there trained and performing fishes?)
Katja, Nov 9, 2008 @ 13:39

I agree that vegetarianism excludes the eating of seafood/fish. People who eat fish/seafood still are usually referred to as pescatarian. Fishes are definitely definitely NOT vegetables!!! However, I know that there is a common misconception that vegetarians also eat some fish and seafood.



I am an ovo-lacto vegetarian - meaning i still eat some eggs and dairy products, but no meat and no seafood. Some veggies dont eat eggs or dairy or one of the other. Others are even stricter and take no animal products whatsoever - vegans. To each his own :)



No matter, I am happy to for anyone to join us as long as our meal is vegetarian. :)



Is Friday ok for everyone?
Raistlyn, Nov 9, 2008 @ 13:44

I'm also happy to meet up this coming Friday for a vegetarian meal. I'm lacto vegetarian.

If the conversation on this thread is anything to go by we should be a lively group :)

So where shall we go? I've understood that there's a preference for non-Indian. There was a suggestion of "La caravane passe", which I've been to and know serves vegetarian food - and is non-smoking until 10pm :) . Any other suggestions?
lentil, Nov 9, 2008 @ 13:53

I have not heard of fish playing, or being trained, but they do wag their tail a lot...



I think I am a vegetarian in the following sense,



The Vegetarian Society, founded in 1847, claims to have "created the word vegetarian from the Latin 'vegetus' meaning 'lively' (which is how these early vegetarians claimed their diet made them feel) ..."



And this is the reference used by the same wikipedia article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian#cite_note-0 ) to 'define' vegetarianism.



Why does it have to have a definition? I guess so one may exclude people who actually eat, non-vegetarian items to be considered vegetarians by definition?

What if we include some fish eaters, and meat eaters (have I gone too far?) in the 'vegan' dinner and show then the goodness of tofu eating.

I think one needs to be inclusive and not exclusive in social behaviour and set examples, not definitions. And lastly, certainly not have government set these rules and definitions (http://www.vegsoc.org/political/index.html).

rpravahan, Nov 9, 2008 @ 14:20

I am in :) I do prefer a non-smoking place ;p but can tolerate it after dinner.
rpravahan, Nov 9, 2008 @ 14:24

which definition of 'smoking' are we adopting here?
hayes, Nov 9, 2008 @ 14:40

I eat fish and seafood, and don't actually call myself a vegetarian. I usually just say that I "don't eat meat". I don't really feel that it's important to me to find a definition for it - to me the reasons behind my decision to eat certain things and avoid others is enough.



I guess that Katja's argument about not eating animals that you can play with pretty much applies to me. I've never thought about it in just those words, but it's very true! I usually think of it as the difference between animals that I can imagine killing and those that I can't imagine killing myself (in other words those that I feel that I can have some form of more or less intelligent interaction with and those that I feel indifferent to - I've been a bit dubious about fish in the past, but never felt any form of moral responsibility towards prawns or mussels). So I guess in my case the most important factor to me is to be morally responsible and act according to my "beliefs".



I have to add though that I don't eat fish or seafood very often, and try to avoid fishes that are extinct. And on a "vegetarian night out" I would of course only eat vegetables.... :)
charlotta, Nov 9, 2008 @ 14:45

hayes, defining 'smoking' will open up nasty can of worms. I shall refrain, or begin another forum :)



I have to concur personally with Charlotta:

on a "vegetarian night out" I would of course only eat vegetables.... :)



Lentil, would it be possible for you to make reservations for La Caravane Passe, for friday? Should we decide on a number of people to sign up or anyone who reads this forum? How does it work?

rpravahan, Nov 9, 2008 @ 15:13

Ok. Am happy to do the reservation but we should know how many people want to come along so we can tell the restaurant, esp. if we're going to be a largish group. Will post an activity so that anyone who's interested in joining us can let me know.

I'll book the table for 7pm (they are quieter earlier on) unless anyone has any objections.
lentil, Nov 9, 2008 @ 16:01

Sounds great! Looking forward to it.
charlotta, Nov 9, 2008 @ 16:26

I just joined glocals and just read these posts about a veggie dinner, and would love to join if there's still room!  I've lived in Geneva previously and have always found it hard to find good veg restaurants, and even meet people who were interested in vegetarian cuisine, so sounds like a great evening.  There would be two of us coming, if there's space...
klauhnjensen, Nov 9, 2008 @ 16:29

Hi Lentil,



You know I am in for sure! Thanks for making the reservation. Im so glad I started this thread!! Didnt expect to get such a good response :)



If you need any help, let me know, I'd be happy to make this a regular thingy depending on how our first outing goes :)



Will email you privately to give you my number.



Bisous,

Karen

Raistlyn, Nov 9, 2008 @ 17:08

Thanks a lot for starting this thread, Karen. That makes already 6 people interested in the dinner. I'm really looking forward to it.

I thought of making it a max. of 10 people so that we can have a chance to communicate. What do you think?







lentil, Nov 9, 2008 @ 17:20

Yeah thats a good idea! I was going to say 20 but come to think of it, 10 might be better and cosier :)



Do you know how big the restaurant is?



I am really looking forward to it too :)
Raistlyn, Nov 9, 2008 @ 19:06

I'm just amazed there are even 20 people interested in a veggie dinner in Geneva!  Maybe one day they're be a resto that caters for our vastly growing numbers:)  Meanwhile, hope if it is limited to 10 people that I make the cut, as am already hungry for yummy caravanne passe food!
klauhnjensen, Nov 9, 2008 @ 19:39

Ahhh, what a shame I´m not in Geneva on friday - happily I know already The Caravan Passe - its ok.

But I wonder if we couldn´t even ask if the chief / the restaurant to prepare something really nice and special for vegetarians? If it´s for around 10 or even more people it might work...

Katja, Nov 9, 2008 @ 22:10

Since we are so many (almost 20 ! ) and I figured it will be good to keep up with each others' vegetarian experiences and strategies of survival. Since, searching on the web did not reveal a whole lot of resources, I thought it would be nice to organize as vegetarians of Geneva. To that end I started a Blog at, http://vegeneva.wordpress.com/. If any of you are interested you can leave comments and I can add you as a user. Feel free to use/abuse ;) Can't wait till friday!

The place is a nicely decorated fairly large place in Paquis, and the food is good.

Lentil, thanks for taking care of the reservations!

Cheers.
rpravahan, Nov 9, 2008 @ 23:11

Are we almost 20? I didn't realise that there was so much interest.

Great minds think alike. I've just set up a Facebook group "Vegetarian in Geneva". Maybe we should discuss on Friday the pros and cons having both a blog and a Facebook group.

Just checked out your blog - looks great

We are clearly already an active bunch (must be all those veggies) :) ... and we haven't even met yet! :)
lentil, Nov 9, 2008 @ 23:19

Oh Great, how do I access the facebook group or add it?

Yeah lets talk on friday about how we can organize better.

May be inform and invite our carnivorous friends to begin eating vegetarian at least for some meals, through facebook and wordpress!

Spread the word.

rpravahan, Nov 9, 2008 @ 23:49

When I lived in Vancouver there was a local enviro NGO that organized what they called "dine-outs" every 2 weeks or so.  Different people took turns organizing, and basically they aproached different restaurants to set up a special vegan menu (including at least 2, sometimes up to 4 courses) for the group.  the resto size (and sometimes how many places they wanted to set aside), dictated the number of places that could be offered, which of course varied all the time.  If the resto/chef was interested in participating, they presented a menu which we reviewed and made changes to or not, and they advised what the fixed price would be, per person, including all taxes and tip, so no debate about who pays what at the end.

There are lots of veggie, and veg-friendly restos in Vancouver of course, but we also worked with restos that were less so.  Dine-out patrons benefited by being able to explore new restos, and the restos could guarantee that they would be able to fill the resto (often these were held mid-week, on quieter nights, but in restos were we had had success, they were happy to have us anytime).  Also, in less veg-friendly places, sometimes it was a great introduction to the resto and the chef about (in our case) vegan cooking, and how yummy it can be! So maybe gave them some new repertoire to include in their regular menu.

So, something to think about for here?!  I brought many non-vegetarian friends to these and it was always great to hear how they loved they food, and gave them veggie options beyond steamed veggies and brown rice. 
klauhnjensen, Nov 10, 2008 @ 00:25

Hi All

I am a strict vegetarian myself and was reading all the posts here.

I would like to add that Vegetarianism is not about taste or eating this or that. It is first about recognizing the fact that eating meat involves killing life, esp life of an animal which resemble in many wasy to Humans. Once someone is aware of this fact, then concept of vegetariansim arises in his/her. To be vegetarian is not a choice but a constant action upon yourself to be vegetarian.

Once one is aware of this definition, one becomes very clear what involves vegetarian food and what not. So it automatically excludes meat, poultry, fish and even eggs.

My argument has one flaw, which is that in being vegetarianism, you also kill life, which is plant. This is true and I do not deny. That's why, some hardcore vegetarians just eat fruits. Only solace, is at least you do not kill an animal, some one that moves and feels like us, except that they may not think and act as advance as we.

And once you become vegetarian by being aware, you can not eat non vegetarian food ever in life.

Second Last thing, I do not want to start an argument of what is right and what is wrong. Nothing is wrong in this world. I only have given what I think Vegetarianism is all about.

And last thing, if anyone is in Zurich, and would love to try vegetarian food here, I am all ready :-)
merajesh, Nov 17, 2008 @ 23:09

[quote]

My argument has one flaw, which is that in being vegetarianism, you also kill life, which is plant. This is true and I do not deny. That's why, some hardcore vegetarians just eat fruits. Only solace, is at least you do not kill an animal, some one that moves and feels like us, except that they may not think and act as advance as we.



[/quote]



I saw a documentary once about some crazy Swedish woman who called herself an ”airanian” (”lufterian”in Swedish”) and who claimed that she only lived on air and didn’t feel the need to eat at all, and that human beings don’t actually need to eat to survive. It’s all just a mental state according to her (she looked really dried up btw and her mouth made clicking sounds when she talked). After a while it came out that she did eat sometimes, but only because the food was presented to her; she never actually felt the need to eat…. Apparently, there are about 4 airanians in Sweden, so it’s not exactly a big movement, but I guess this is the most extreme case I’ve ever seen of someone cutting out food groups from their diet.

When I googled this movement I also came across websites for ”fall-fruitarians” (only eat fruit that has fallen to the ground – don’t ask me what they eat in the winter…) and the less hardcore ”fruitarians” (also eat fruit that has been removed from the tree). I may have found some others as well that I’ve forgotten about.



I am full of admiration for people who are prepared to restrict their lives so extensively out of respect for everything that’s living. But I also think that there might be a point that’s been missed by people who don’t eat vegetables because they are ”living things”....



It is true that we are the only living creatures on this earth that are capable of making concious choices concerning our behaviour towards others, and this brings a moral responsibility. But I think that it’s important to remember that no matter how much we want to respect the life of everything living, being a human being also means that we are part of a food chain, and we don’t only have a moral responsiblity towards others but also towards ourselves. Everything that’s alive feeds from something, and denying yourself to eat even vegetables is clearly a huge sacrifice and affects both your daily life and your physical health (your body needs nutrition in the form of other life in order to survive). Denying yourself the right to nutrition through plants would in other words mean that you regard the plants’ lives as more important and high standing than your own. You have to place yourself somewhere in the food chain, and where that should be depends on how much you can sacrifice without it taking over your life.



So, Merajesh, I don't think that your argument "has a flaw" - you've just decided to respect your own life as much as the life of other living things. :)

charlotta, Nov 18, 2008 @ 01:00

Hello.



So, how was the vegetarian dinner for those who joined? Couldn't find any review...

Is anyone interested in doing it again?

I could imagine to have one for max. 10 persons and would like to ask the cook / chief in advance to prepare a special veggie dish, buffet etc.



Looking forward to hear some news, Katja

Katja, Nov 24, 2008 @ 14:26

Sorry I haven't posted before but have been really busy and am now catching up.

The meal went well and there was a lot of enthusiasm to continue meeting up.

There's a review by one of the participants here http://vegeneva.wordpress.com/

There's another dinner being planned for this week.
lentil, Nov 24, 2008 @ 15:38