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What do you do with your schoolkids on Wednesdays?

Our son is going to go to school in a year and a half and I'm trying to get ahead of the curve in terms of how my wife and I who both work at 100% will best handle the Wednesday issue. Does anyone here have any solutions that don't just involve a nanny and won't bankrupt our family?

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Our son is going to go to school in a year and a half and I'm trying to get ahead of the curve in terms of how my wife and I who both work at 100% will best handle the Wednesday issue. Does anyone here have any solutions that don't just involve a nanny and won't bankrupt our family?


Andy HDec 21, 2017 @ 21:39
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Check the Maison de Quatier around you, if you are in Geneva, who usually have good program to help 100% working parents, take good care of children during working hours, or long school holidays while parents are working.

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Check the Maison de Quatier around you, if you are in Geneva, who usually have good program to help 100% working parents, take good care of children during working hours, or long school holidays while parents are working.


Jessica G, Dec 22, 2017 @ 10:03
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Thanks for the response Jess! I'll do that in the next months. We live in Servette so we have the Maison du Quartier pretty much across the street, I just wouldn't even have imagined they can handle a kid for a full workday (which with travel does equate to 10 hours).


Any other ideas?

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Thanks for the response Jess! I'll do that in the next months. We live in Servette so we have the Maison du Quartier pretty much across the street, I just wouldn't even have imagined they can handle a kid for a full workday (which with travel does equate to 10 hours).


Any other ideas?


Andy H, Dec 22, 2017 @ 10:56
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I see what you mean, I have great experience with the Maison de Quartier around my place, they have a good programme of getting kids for Wednesdays, holidays, summer holidays and the cost are very reasonable - according to parents' income. I think they support you the maximum of hours they can, which is the idea of them to support working parents.


Good luck. Smile

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I see what you mean, I have great experience with the Maison de Quartier around my place, they have a good programme of getting kids for Wednesdays, holidays, summer holidays and the cost are very reasonable - according to parents' income. I think they support you the maximum of hours they can, which is the idea of them to support working parents.


Good luck. Smile


Jessica G, Dec 22, 2017 @ 11:04
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I'm in a similar boat. My daughter starts school in September and we live in Servette also.


The Maison de Quartier only takes children from 5 years on Wednesdays. I'm probably going to put my daughter in English classes on Wednesday mornings (we speak English at home) and then that still leaves the rest of the day...


Finding childcare (other than a nanny) for school age children for more than 3 hours on a Wednesday seems to be near impossible. If I could work 80% or 50% I would jump at the chance.


Bell offers English classes on Wednesday mornings OR afternoons and Gymboree has a preschool that allows children to attend on Wednesday mornings only.


Other than that I have no more ideas. so please keep us updated if you find anything!


 

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I'm in a similar boat. My daughter starts school in September and we live in Servette also.


The Maison de Quartier only takes children from 5 years on Wednesdays. I'm probably going to put my daughter in English classes on Wednesday mornings (we speak English at home) and then that still leaves the rest of the day...


Finding childcare (other than a nanny) for school age children for more than 3 hours on a Wednesday seems to be near impossible. If I could work 80% or 50% I would jump at the chance.


Bell offers English classes on Wednesday mornings OR afternoons and Gymboree has a preschool that allows children to attend on Wednesday mornings only.


Other than that I have no more ideas. so please keep us updated if you find anything!


 


Marcia L, Jan 17, 2018 @ 12:56
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Hi,


 


A list of activities here:


 


http://ge.ch/enfance-jeunesse/loisirs-activites-camps/activites-pendant-conges-hebdomadaires/activites-extrascolaires-4-16-ans


 


 

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Hi,


 


A list of activities here:


 


http://ge.ch/enfance-jeunesse/loisirs-activites-camps/activites-pendant-conges-hebdomadaires/activites-extrascolaires-4-16-ans


 


 


Giselle C, Jan 18, 2018 @ 15:59
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Most schools in Geneva have after school activities. We were in the same position, our kids just did Italian and Manderin as additional languages.

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Most schools in Geneva have after school activities. We were in the same position, our kids just did Italian and Manderin as additional languages.


Brett W, Jan 18, 2018 @ 16:34
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Hi, I just found this thread. Did you find anything for your son? Our daughter was on a waitlist to get into the Maison de quartier or a year. We had no choice (as far as we could find) than to hire a nanny and it was a very expensive year. She finally got in. But now my youngest will be going to school and we’re back in the same position again.


Would be great to know if there were any full-day programs for kids with working parents!!


 

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Hi, I just found this thread. Did you find anything for your son? Our daughter was on a waitlist to get into the Maison de quartier or a year. We had no choice (as far as we could find) than to hire a nanny and it was a very expensive year. She finally got in. But now my youngest will be going to school and we’re back in the same position again.


Would be great to know if there were any full-day programs for kids with working parents!!


 


Kathryn C, Jun 5, 2018 @ 22:53
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I only see programs for 1-2 hours here - are there full day programs too? Maybe I’ve missed it.

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I only see programs for 1-2 hours here - are there full day programs too? Maybe I’ve missed it.


Kathryn C, Jun 5, 2018 @ 22:54
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Hi,


We will be relocating to Geneva soon and I found out only recently about the wednesday school closure. 


I honestly was a bit shocked and I don't really understand how families deal with this. My understanding is that the reason behind this 'habit' is to leave time for extracurriculum activities and 'family time', although I find it crazy to send kids to school only 4 days a week with a quite disruptive break in the midlle of the week, 'just' for that. I strongly believe children should stay in school, first of all for themselves. Not all families might have time/resources/capacity to fill up one full days with sports and theatre for kids.


Aren't weekends, after-school hours and the holidays enough?


Even with a school full-time schedule picking up a child at 3.30/4pm means to work part time for one parent. If you add one extra day off, I'm not sure how people do it.


Please help me understand how this works, and if there are pre-schools or primary schools (private) that stick to a 5 days schedule.


Many thanks!


 


Brenda

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Hi,


We will be relocating to Geneva soon and I found out only recently about the wednesday school closure. 


I honestly was a bit shocked and I don't really understand how families deal with this. My understanding is that the reason behind this 'habit' is to leave time for extracurriculum activities and 'family time', although I find it crazy to send kids to school only 4 days a week with a quite disruptive break in the midlle of the week, 'just' for that. I strongly believe children should stay in school, first of all for themselves. Not all families might have time/resources/capacity to fill up one full days with sports and theatre for kids.


Aren't weekends, after-school hours and the holidays enough?


Even with a school full-time schedule picking up a child at 3.30/4pm means to work part time for one parent. If you add one extra day off, I'm not sure how people do it.


Please help me understand how this works, and if there are pre-schools or primary schools (private) that stick to a 5 days schedule.


Many thanks!


 


Brenda


brenda f, Apr 11, 2019 @ 07:58
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Hi,

We will be relocating to Geneva soon and I found out only recently about the wednesday school closure. 

I honestly was a bit shocked and I don't really understand how families deal with this. My understanding is that the reason behind this 'habit' is to leave time for extracurriculum activities and 'family time', although I find it crazy to send kids to school only 4 days a week with a quite disruptive break in the midlle of the week, 'just' for that. I strongly believe children should stay in school, first of all for themselves. Not all families might have time/resources/capacity to fill up one full days with sports and theatre for kids.

Aren't weekends, after-school hours and the holidays enough?

Even with a school full-time schedule picking up a child at 3.30/4pm means to work part time for one parent. If you add one extra day off, I'm not sure how people do it.

Please help me understand how this works, and if there are pre-schools or primary schools (private) that stick to a 5 days schedule.

Many thanks!

 

Brenda


Apr 11, 19 07:58

Dear Brenda,


I am raising a 9 year old daughter by myself, so imagine the difficulties the 4-day school week present for me, as a single caretaker with just one salary. But you may have gotten more helpful hints on ways of adapting, if you had skipped your very strong negative characterizations.


First of all, it is not a "habit", but a public policy, and it is not "crazy", just because you find it inconvenient.


The reasons behind the policy are that:


1) it improves children's performance in academic subjects, specially in math, (the "break" is not "quite disruptive," but it aids assimilation). This is not a personal opinion, but the results of studies by school districts in the US which have shifted to 4 day weeks.


2) it enhances teacher's performance, as it gives them an extra day to prepare classes (which they otherwise have to do on weekends or at night).


3) it leads to a greater broader education, with greater development of non-school curriculum educational activities for those children whose parents take advantage of the extra time and prioritize their children's future, so they make whatever investment of time and resources they need to.


You "don't really understand how families deal with this"? Really?


With 1, 267, 458 school age children in Switzerland, that is a hell of a lot of families having to deal with this. The results are, of course, a disaster: Switzerland ranks only second world-wide for GDP per capita. Their GDP is $709,118 billion, ranking 20th in gross terms (2nd per capita), in spite of being one of the largest countries in the world, with a huge population of 8.4 million and area of 15,940 mi².


The mean household income is only 120,624. Ok, ok, after health insurance, pension contributions and all taxes, the mean take home income is only CHF 85,560. That is CHF 7,130 per month in household income and they somehow manage. How much do your spouse and you make?


And, of course, education is not only about reading, writing and arithmetic, so Switzerland must have a very high crime rate.


If only they would stop their "crazy" "disruptive" "habit" and keep their children in school all week.


But hey, this is Switzerland, so why don't you organize a referendum and become the most popular person in the country. 


 


 


 




 
 



 

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Dear Brenda,


I am raising a 9 year old daughter by myself, so imagine the difficulties the 4-day school week present for me, as a single caretaker with just one salary. But you may have gotten more helpful hints on ways of adapting, if you had skipped your very strong negative characterizations.


First of all, it is not a "habit", but a public policy, and it is not "crazy", just because you find it inconvenient.


The reasons behind the policy are that:


1) it improves children's performance in academic subjects, specially in math, (the "break" is not "quite disruptive," but it aids assimilation). This is not a personal opinion, but the results of studies by school districts in the US which have shifted to 4 day weeks.


2) it enhances teacher's performance, as it gives them an extra day to prepare classes (which they otherwise have to do on weekends or at night).


3) it leads to a greater broader education, with greater development of non-school curriculum educational activities for those children whose parents take advantage of the extra time and prioritize their children's future, so they make whatever investment of time and resources they need to.


You "don't really understand how families deal with this"? Really?


With 1, 267, 458 school age children in Switzerland, that is a hell of a lot of families having to deal with this. The results are, of course, a disaster: Switzerland ranks only second world-wide for GDP per capita. Their GDP is $709,118 billion, ranking 20th in gross terms (2nd per capita), in spite of being one of the largest countries in the world, with a huge population of 8.4 million and area of 15,940 mi².


The mean household income is only 120,624. Ok, ok, after health insurance, pension contributions and all taxes, the mean take home income is only CHF 85,560. That is CHF 7,130 per month in household income and they somehow manage. How much do your spouse and you make?


And, of course, education is not only about reading, writing and arithmetic, so Switzerland must have a very high crime rate.


If only they would stop their "crazy" "disruptive" "habit" and keep their children in school all week.


But hey, this is Switzerland, so why don't you organize a referendum and become the most popular person in the country. 


 


 


 




 
 



 


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Dear Brenda,

I am raising a 9 year old daughter by myself, so imagine the difficulties the 4-day school week present for me, as a single caretaker with just one salary. But you may have gotten more helpful hints on ways of adapting, if you had skipped your very strong negative characterizations.

First of all, it is not a "habit", but a public policy, and it is not "crazy", just because you find it inconvenient.

The reasons behind the policy are that:

1) it improves children's performance in academic subjects, specially in math, (the "break" is not "quite disruptive," but it aids assimilation). This is not a personal opinion, but the results of studies by school districts in the US which have shifted to 4 day weeks.

2) it enhances teacher's performance, as it gives them an extra day to prepare classes (which they otherwise have to do on weekends or at night).

3) it leads to a greater broader education, with greater development of non-school curriculum educational activities for those children whose parents take advantage of the extra time and prioritize their children's future, so they make whatever investment of time and resources they need to.

You "don't really understand how families deal with this"? Really?

With 1, 267, 458 school age children in Switzerland, that is a hell of a lot of families having to deal with this. The results are, of course, a disaster: Switzerland ranks only second world-wide for GDP per capita. Their GDP is $709,118 billion, ranking 20th in gross terms (2nd per capita), in spite of being one of the largest countries in the world, with a huge population of 8.4 million and area of 15,940 mi².

The mean household income is only 120,624. Ok, ok, after health insurance, pension contributions and all taxes, the mean take home income is only CHF 85,560. That is CHF 7,130 per month in household income and they somehow manage. How much do your spouse and you make?

And, of course, education is not only about reading, writing and arithmetic, so Switzerland must have a very high crime rate.

If only they would stop their "crazy" "disruptive" "habit" and keep their children in school all week.

But hey, this is Switzerland, so why don't you organize a referendum and become the most popular person in the country. 

 

 

 

   

 


Apr 12, 19 11:30

Hi,


point 1,2,3 make sense in traditional education and mai stream schools. My kids are in Montessori full time and i can assure that neither them nor the teachers are stressed out. There are no ‘lessons’ to prepare. Children benefit from being in school every morning, much more than they would do making a pottery workshop once a week. 


As i said extra-curriculum activities are also present in other countries but they are indeed ‘extra’, which means that they are not taking time from school hours.


It’s not clear to me how your point about incomes in Switzerland is related to this matter. 


I am a stay at home mum at the moment, i assure you that i do prioritise my children’s wellbeing. That’s why i’d rather have them in school with their friends, working and playing.


Afternoons, weekends, holidays are enough to spend quality time together and do arts&crafts.


And yes, i will go back to work full time at some point, this doesn’t mean i love my kids less. I don’t really see how i can do it if i need to pick the kids up at 3pm and also keep them with me on wednesdays.


Since you are a single parent you maybe can tell me how you do this? 


I need practical answers because believe it or not i didn’t mean to criticise, i just come from another country and completely different mindset. I don’t need unwelcoming statistics about how cool, rich and advanced switzerland is.


 


 


Thanks.

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Hi,


point 1,2,3 make sense in traditional education and mai stream schools. My kids are in Montessori full time and i can assure that neither them nor the teachers are stressed out. There are no ‘lessons’ to prepare. Children benefit from being in school every morning, much more than they would do making a pottery workshop once a week. 


As i said extra-curriculum activities are also present in other countries but they are indeed ‘extra’, which means that they are not taking time from school hours.


It’s not clear to me how your point about incomes in Switzerland is related to this matter. 


I am a stay at home mum at the moment, i assure you that i do prioritise my children’s wellbeing. That’s why i’d rather have them in school with their friends, working and playing.


Afternoons, weekends, holidays are enough to spend quality time together and do arts&crafts.


And yes, i will go back to work full time at some point, this doesn’t mean i love my kids less. I don’t really see how i can do it if i need to pick the kids up at 3pm and also keep them with me on wednesdays.


Since you are a single parent you maybe can tell me how you do this? 


I need practical answers because believe it or not i didn’t mean to criticise, i just come from another country and completely different mindset. I don’t need unwelcoming statistics about how cool, rich and advanced switzerland is.


 


 


Thanks.


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I find this reply completely off point and unhelpful. 

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I find this reply completely off point and unhelpful. 


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Hi,

We will be relocating to Geneva soon and I found out only recently about the wednesday school closure. 

I honestly was a bit shocked and I don't really understand how families deal with this. My understanding is that the reason behind this 'habit' is to leave time for extracurriculum activities and 'family time', although I find it crazy to send kids to school only 4 days a week with a quite disruptive break in the midlle of the week, 'just' for that. I strongly believe children should stay in school, first of all for themselves. Not all families might have time/resources/capacity to fill up one full days with sports and theatre for kids.

Aren't weekends, after-school hours and the holidays enough?

Even with a school full-time schedule picking up a child at 3.30/4pm means to work part time for one parent. If you add one extra day off, I'm not sure how people do it.

Please help me understand how this works, and if there are pre-schools or primary schools (private) that stick to a 5 days schedule.

Many thanks!

 

Brenda


Apr 11, 19 07:58

Hey Brenda,


It took me until today to respond since busy at the moment. Long story short you have the following options:


For the time between the time school ends and when you get home from work there is two things you can essentially do:


1) Parascolaire: The kids are taken care of for a small extra fee of 7 CHF a day until 6 pm by educators. This means the ones that have this situation go on like little field trips and excursions in that time sometimes, other times they just play sports or have a huge session of recess.


2) There's tons of students that do this kind of "babysitting" to make a little cash, however, that will cost you a lot more as I'd budget about 160 CHF a week for the same if you did it for the 4 afternoons. You can of course also mix and match.


 


For Wednesdays there are multiple options:


1) Maison de Quartier (they are basically your local neighborhood association) have Wednesday programs


2) There's classes and soccer camps etc etc you can send kids to. Like for example my little guy goes to public school and then he spends 3 hours in private english school on Wednesdays, the rest of the time he has a nanny from....


3) ... Mary Poppins - from an organization called Pro Juventute. They send someone to your house and take care of kids up to 10h a day. They are partially state subsidized so they cost "only" about 10CHF an hour.


 


My wife and I work 100%, so what we have is a Mary Poppins two days a week that takes care of our daughter on those days and also takes care of our son after school the one day and the rest of the day on Wednesdays. Ther other days our son has parascolaire and our daughter has the creche.


Just reach out if you have more questions. There's no one size fits all approach, but when all is said and done there's "no child left behind" ;-)


 


Andy

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Hey Brenda,


It took me until today to respond since busy at the moment. Long story short you have the following options:


For the time between the time school ends and when you get home from work there is two things you can essentially do:


1) Parascolaire: The kids are taken care of for a small extra fee of 7 CHF a day until 6 pm by educators. This means the ones that have this situation go on like little field trips and excursions in that time sometimes, other times they just play sports or have a huge session of recess.


2) There's tons of students that do this kind of "babysitting" to make a little cash, however, that will cost you a lot more as I'd budget about 160 CHF a week for the same if you did it for the 4 afternoons. You can of course also mix and match.


 


For Wednesdays there are multiple options:


1) Maison de Quartier (they are basically your local neighborhood association) have Wednesday programs


2) There's classes and soccer camps etc etc you can send kids to. Like for example my little guy goes to public school and then he spends 3 hours in private english school on Wednesdays, the rest of the time he has a nanny from....


3) ... Mary Poppins - from an organization called Pro Juventute. They send someone to your house and take care of kids up to 10h a day. They are partially state subsidized so they cost "only" about 10CHF an hour.


 


My wife and I work 100%, so what we have is a Mary Poppins two days a week that takes care of our daughter on those days and also takes care of our son after school the one day and the rest of the day on Wednesdays. Ther other days our son has parascolaire and our daughter has the creche.


Just reach out if you have more questions. There's no one size fits all approach, but when all is said and done there's "no child left behind" ;-)


 


Andy


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Dear Brenda,

I am raising a 9 year old daughter by myself, so imagine the difficulties the 4-day school week present for me, as a single caretaker with just one salary. But you may have gotten more helpful hints on ways of adapting, if you had skipped your very strong negative characterizations.

First of all, it is not a "habit", but a public policy, and it is not "crazy", just because you find it inconvenient.

The reasons behind the policy are that:

1) it improves children's performance in academic subjects, specially in math, (the "break" is not "quite disruptive," but it aids assimilation). This is not a personal opinion, but the results of studies by school districts in the US which have shifted to 4 day weeks.

2) it enhances teacher's performance, as it gives them an extra day to prepare classes (which they otherwise have to do on weekends or at night).

3) it leads to a greater broader education, with greater development of non-school curriculum educational activities for those children whose parents take advantage of the extra time and prioritize their children's future, so they make whatever investment of time and resources they need to.

You "don't really understand how families deal with this"? Really?

With 1, 267, 458 school age children in Switzerland, that is a hell of a lot of families having to deal with this. The results are, of course, a disaster: Switzerland ranks only second world-wide for GDP per capita. Their GDP is $709,118 billion, ranking 20th in gross terms (2nd per capita), in spite of being one of the largest countries in the world, with a huge population of 8.4 million and area of 15,940 mi².

The mean household income is only 120,624. Ok, ok, after health insurance, pension contributions and all taxes, the mean take home income is only CHF 85,560. That is CHF 7,130 per month in household income and they somehow manage. How much do your spouse and you make?

And, of course, education is not only about reading, writing and arithmetic, so Switzerland must have a very high crime rate.

If only they would stop their "crazy" "disruptive" "habit" and keep their children in school all week.

But hey, this is Switzerland, so why don't you organize a referendum and become the most popular person in the country. 

 

 

 

   

 


Apr 12, 19 11:30

Seriously? Brenda's post was slightly clumsy in formulation sometimes, but in general the way things work here are quite frightening to people coming from other places. It's not like there's a lot of resources to help you navigate how that works organizationally until you are here, on the ground either.


Your post was just some random bashing of someone asking for help, without doing any helping whatsoever. If you have nothing constructive to say, instead of being a douchebag, just don't post anything.


Btw, the German speaking cantons don't have Wednesdays off. Since you're clearly in the business of patronizing people you should know the facts.

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Seriously? Brenda's post was slightly clumsy in formulation sometimes, but in general the way things work here are quite frightening to people coming from other places. It's not like there's a lot of resources to help you navigate how that works organizationally until you are here, on the ground either.


Your post was just some random bashing of someone asking for help, without doing any helping whatsoever. If you have nothing constructive to say, instead of being a douchebag, just don't post anything.


Btw, the German speaking cantons don't have Wednesdays off. Since you're clearly in the business of patronizing people you should know the facts.


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Dear JRM, why do you hand a book to someone asking for fish? 'Cos it seems like that's what you're doing here.


Yeah we get it. You got it all figured out. But there's no need to throw shade at someone asking for help because the find a new system overwhelming.


Be nice.

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Dear JRM, why do you hand a book to someone asking for fish? 'Cos it seems like that's what you're doing here.


Yeah we get it. You got it all figured out. But there's no need to throw shade at someone asking for help because the find a new system overwhelming.


Be nice.


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