Second) Are you Muslim?

Third) Are you going to start to educate others who might have negative opinion or ideas you don’t agree with?

Fourth) will you be replying/answering others? are you ‘enlightened’ to defend your position, because you are superior in you have the gift of truth & ‘true beliefs’

Fifth ) What qualifies you to then answer such discussions, are you educated in world religions, so you can provide an informed, educated & ‘objective discussion’.  

Sixth) Where do you expect to go with this? You start a one liner and don’t give your opinion. Looking for nasty discussions seems your post is too open ended and you’re looking for 'Heated debate', as you have done several times.

Really I can make a much longer list, but your one liner is insulting.

Still hiding behind a unidentifiable photo is see.

Alex,

Opps

First) Why do you start this discussion?

Well 'one's' problem in current day versus the long history of some religions?

Unfortunately we are all creatures of our current environment. Manipulated, influences by MASS media and internet. Further by politics, nationalism, propaganda, religious zealots, religious power hungry, and countries needs of natural resources, people and money, Easy way is Media, politics, religion. As such history is written and re-written by others to suit their ambitions.

You will know them by their fruits.

Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. (Matthew 7.16-29, Bible)

Same applies for me as a Christian. I will be judged by my behaviour and it's normal to judge a religion by its followers.

Why should I join if the club doesn't look promising?

well not really

i have friends from all religions and i study bible as well quran and tawrat

i did not find anything wrong in these book but i dont know all the followers of these religion are not doing what exactly is in these book, 

but i found really nice persons in Hinduism, Christians, Jews and Islam who are really follow their religion 

we mostly see the religion from a different prospect without even knowing it

You really want ot know? That's totally stupid, unprodcutive and useless statement

i just wanted to know that what is wrong in human being that judge other fellow by its religion

as its very very clear from my name that i am not a muslim

howver i try to respect all but follow non

i am trying to be only a good human being 

than you tell me nice statment 

good idea, 

but do christian woman too can give birth to a babe from the mouth, if yes than we can judge a religion by its followers 

Free, i totally agree, this is a real top of the list 'Trolling' dissussion' by Alex.

The problem is on both sides. The religious ones who are not letting any opportunity of belittling their own religion and the ones who judge the whole community because of the idiots who  claim to represent the religion. They are both at fault and the fruits of this is reaped by media, politicians, people with vested interests etc etc as Dave mentioned. 

Rena, you represent the typical mind! I do not agree with you, I will not judge my lovely christian friends by the priests who rape kids, and they dont judge me by the suicide bombers who kill innocent lives. Every human is an individual and religion makes just a part of their lives, it is absolutely possible to be great friends with people without ever finding about their religious beliefs.

wow, alot of people in glocal have pseudo name or nick names. so how would we know if your christian or Muslim or other, never assume.

But your photo explains alot, no face photo and a 'middle finger' to anyone to see.

yes as you cant judge my religion by name the same way i dont know why ppl judge religion by its followers

i love this dicussion to go on

this common issue and lets know what others feel about

also for certain other posts of mine, some ppl reported my picture i tried many time times to put the same picture but all in vain, 

also this picture is for those who report me to Glocals administration

if it hurt you plz pardon me 

Mona, what's your point?

Muslim is a person who follows Islam. Now its a different story that there are people who claim to be muslim and do bad stuff in the name of Islam. So your statement should have been "please dont judge muslims by the acts of some mentally retarded ba*****ds which are found everywhere regardless of religion"

Sorry I tapped post by mistake :) 

I am Muslim but if I could I would punch this guy (A muslim cleric) in his testicles which probably get more powerful with driving 

Free: Why do you ask Mona what her point is??? I would say that she made her point clearly: That there are dickheads in every religion.

but my question is why Islam to be judge by statment of this man

As far as i know Saudi in order to bring peace in their country send all the stupid extremist to other counrty for Jihad

in this way they save their kingdoom by sending their opposition to other countries 

Since all religions are created by man, isn't it logical to judge a religion by whoever promotes it?

nice pictures but i think you did not read it well

Why we judge a religion by its followers, 

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I do not judge 'a religion' because it's an abstract concept. At best it is a set of beliefs or a moral code. 

However, I (try to) judge every person by their actions, irrespective of their beliefs. I do not care which religion or belief system they follow when I judge them. If they do something that I find wrong, I judge them accordingly, and do not accept the 'it is part of my religion' excuse. 

Dear Edward B

you are one in million 

tawb,

oh your such an infidel and need a choice ,

Die by pujapuja , pujapuja to death. 

ahha, so what is pujapuja

yeah, on in a million nutz

First this guy had problem with discrimination in UN, French and Russian people were the worst enemy of him/his friends to get a job in UN. Now he is after Islam, Maybe later Christians. I am not in favor or against Muslims(i don't follow any) but every religion go through dark ages. How can we forget Ottoman Empire? Meanwhile Europe/Christianity was going though it's worse days. Meanwhile you start this silly discussion on religions. 3000 children die everyday in india from hunger :)

So if i say, never judge Indians from their poverty, What friends say about this?

not only friends but i also appreciate your comment 

however what you do for that starve children

if i write something about religion or dicrimination, what pinch you more

both of these topics i selected is real problem in present time,

hope you learn to write with diginity 

Dave thanks for PUJA PUJA

remember your president went to that puja puja country and was beging in order to create job in USA,

may be you see your president latest visit to India and see the newspaper comments

what an exaggeration,

if 3000 children die everyday than it means that in one 1095000 

there will be no new generation in India lolol 

Why should i do something for those children at first place? Yes if i German/Swiss baby dies from hunger it concerns me the most. You are the Indian, those children are Indians. You should be the one to be worried the most :). Why don't you go back and help those kids :) 

indian population can't stop because indians have baby poping out machines.Because in indian 46,000 babies born every day,  Please help this planet earth, we have limited resources. 

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/16/10424930-indias-hunger-shame-3000-children-die-every-day-despite-economic-growth?lite

Well I was not refering to Indians, south americans, Asians, or ohter etc.

Die by pujapuja , pujapuja to death (Pojapuja is SEX)

Die by SEX, SEX to Death

Depends if your in the jungle, arabian jungle, or prison, how you might decide?

I beleive it's never stupid to have a debate on relegions as we all need to Co-exist (all beleivers and non beleivers)

If one has lived and was educated in school from a young age among Christians, Jews and muslims to live side by side in peace and most importantly thought to accept one another for our common values !!
 (It stays like that in your mindset)

If you would have wanted to start a genuine discussion you should have called it "Never judge religion by it's followers". 

Than it would have been interesting. Now it's singling out a single religion and just looking for an other silly discussion which is bound to hurt peoples feelings, since there are idiots who cannot discuss without name calling - insulting others and so on. 

Since you single out a single religion here I'm not going to say anything, since I don't want to be called a xenophobe again.... 

And since it Friday:

George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and Christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd.

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one

This says it all

And in Germany the population is estimated to decrease to 65 million inhabitants by 2060?
https://www.destatis.de/EN/Publications/Specialized/Population/GermanyPopulation2060.pdf?__blob=publicationFile

You call this the free world?

 

" Never Judge Islam by the behavior of Muslims"

what is there islam or any religion without its followers?

remove "there". 

 Never Judge a religion by the behavior of its followers

Should you judge a religion by its followers ? The problem is that the followers are very diverse and, depending on which ones I focus on, the result will be entirely different.

If I think beforehand that Christianity is bad, I will tend to focus on mad fundamentalist or paedophile priests.

If I think beforehand that Christianity is good, I will tend to focus on people doing a wonderful social job in the slums.

So I pretend to judge a religion by its followers but actually I don’t; I just confirm my own prejudices by picking the followers that suit them. Psychologists call that confirmation bias.

It seems that intolerance was born with monoteism. The first example was Akhenaten in 18th dynasty's ancient Egypt who decided to worship Aten and banish all other gods. This resulted in chaos but didn't last long as the clergy of Amun brought back some order.

The Romans were the most tolerant people and only destroyed cults when they threatened their power. They even imported many deities like Ishtar, Isis, Astarte, etc. 

Let's go back to Pagan times and there will be no more religious conflicts. 

Some might object that there were some human sacrifices but they are definitely outweighed by the victims of Inquisition, crusades, charya and many charming inventions of monotheistic churches.

At least the truth of a religion or an other belief can not be judged solely on the behavior of the believers.

Also with no religion having a unified belief and practice, it is difficult to even know, which Muslims are true Muslims and therefore are the standard to judge Islam. This is of course true for every religion.

Even basing the religions on their founders is difficult. Who is the founder of Judaism? Moses probably never existed. Neither did Abraham. Is Jesus the founder of Christianity or Paul? Even if we manage to agree that either Jesus or Paul created Christianity, there is little we know of both of them as a historical fact. Mohammed is not a much better source than Jesus and Paul despite what Muslims claim today.

Where it becomes easier, is when Alex M states, he did not find anything wrong in these books. I guess he means morally, as there are a lot of false claims in all books of the Abrahamic religions. And of course there is a lot of immorality in those books too. I can't see, how a modern human being can read those old texts and not be disgusted by the morals of those people and the supposed god.

Plus how can you judge a follower to be someone "who are really follow their religion"? Such a claim demands, that Alex M is able to do what no religious person has ever been able to do: Manage to decide or rather know, binding for all, what god has put as a standard what the believers of his religion should believe.

What also irks me, is that Alex M wants us to respect all religions. Respect, has to be earned. I am not saying, that one should disrespect every believer, but neither do I feel obliged to respect every belief. If you want my respect, you gotta earn it.

Then Salem T comes with some claims of common values in the Abrahamic religions. I doubt, he is able to find a lot of common values as even in Christianity, Christians can't make up their mind about core beliefs, for example, how does one go to heaven or is it OK to kill or is it bad to lie, when you are hiding Jews and Nazis are knocking on your door and asking for them.

Then he posts some PDF about about population in Germany going down and claims that this is not a free world? What? Who is hindering Germans to have more babies against their will? I won't event go into brad h post and his baby popping out machines. Not sure, which world he is living in...

But at least we got some Carlin.

Really really nice piece of you on this topic 

I thank you for sharing your thoughts 

wonderful dear

Yes I did now