Hi Papagena,

I did the same, first getting a swisscom prepaid(After I saw how expensive the swisscom prepaid card is, I never used it again...), then searching for a combined offer.

First, to compare the contracts, go to http://www.comparis.ch/telecom/adsl/adsl.aspx?id=TC_PG_ADSLstandard

Here you can see, that it is nearly the same with every provider.

For internet, you need a basic landline, so this will be ~75CHF per month for landline and 3500 ADSL.

For my mobile phone I decided to take www.yallo.ch. This is a cheap and reliable prepaid provider, especially if you call people abroad quite often. You can order online and refill your prepaid account directly from your mobile phone.

So no mobile contract for me. 

Option: I have seen, that Sunrise offers a package with landline, mobile contract and "free" internet. Check this offer here:

https://www.sunrise.ch/privatkunden/angebote/internet-festnetz/free-internet.htm

Hope this helps :)
yannik, Aug 20, 2008 @ 19:15

Hi Yannik,

Thank you very much for your time and advice. Will explore the links... yes Swisscom is really expensive, it claims though that you can call any fix line or Swisscom mobile for an hour with 0.80 F, but I have yet to make full use of this possibility...

Thanks again.
Papagena, Aug 21, 2008 @ 18:01

I prefer Swisscom. When I  first came to Geneva I used Swisscom and later  switched to Sunrise. I  am now back with Swisscom ( for the past 5 years) for one reason-I find their customer care extremely good, which was not the case with Sunrise(according to my experience) and I do not have to worry about  not speaking French.
Molula_M, Aug 22, 2008 @ 16:31

http://www.tele2.ch/en/index.html



I reckon that's the best option.
Stef__Granny, Aug 22, 2008 @ 17:06

Tele 2 is cheap if you use it for long phonecalls and sms inside switzerland.

Just to compare the prepaid offers of Tele 2 and Yallo:

Tele 2 has a connection price of 0.09CHF per call and a minute price of 0.19CHF. For every call, they charge the first full 60seconds no matter if its 10 seconds or 20...

If you make a lot of short phonecalls, you will always pay 0.28CHF.

Yallo seems to be expensive with 0.35CHF per minute for a national call. But they don't have a connection price and they count in 10second steps.

So in the long run, this will be cheaper as I said, if you have many short calls below 60seconds (which I have).

Another point, Tele 2 is SO expensive, if you want to call abroad. E. g. a minute to Kosovo costs 1.99CHF while Yallo charges you with 0.25 CHF.

Another point, if you call another Yallo customers (like a lot of my friends here), you only pay 0.05CHF per minute in 10 second steps. Thats kind of cheap.

This is, why I recommended Yallo (and I am not on their payrole;) )

For ADSL I am fine with Swisscom, because their service is english or german speaking, fast and friendly.

Cheers, Yannik
yannik, Aug 22, 2008 @ 17:39

Dear All,

Thank you for all the inputs. Very helpful indeed. :). Maybe see you in one of the Glocals activities...

Cheers.
Papagena, Aug 25, 2008 @ 00:16

[quote]

For ADSL I have chosen Interway, which is a small company with it's benefits and shortcomings. The customer service has been extremely responsive and friendly, and in English. They follow Swisscom pricing (including the timing of speed increases), so I guess they rent some of their infra from Swisscom.[/quote]



With the exception of Cablecom, every DSL-provider in Switzerland is just a Swisscom reseller (well, you can have unbundled local loop now, but it's not really a mass-business until now).

So, unless you choose Cablecom, whatever else you choose: the backend-provider of your DSL-provider is Swisscom. Swisscom owns all the DSLAMs.

Also, IIRC, Swisscom offers a "naked DSL" scheme, where you can have DSL-only (and use whatever VOIP-provider you want to - no fixed phone service, even emergency calls possible) - but you MUST have a Swisscom-mobile subscription (not pre-pay).

http://www.swisscom.ch/res/kombi-angebote/dsl-natel/index.htm (in German).

It all depends on how you use the various services. I suggest going over your current phone bills and doing a projection for every company and subscription/pre-pay scheme you are evaluating.





Rainer
rainer_d, Aug 25, 2008 @ 02:43

[quote]So basically... whether you take a landline or mobile phone (min 25CHF abonnement), with ADSL... one pays at least 79CHF for internet per month?



That's so expensive...but thanks for the Q&A.



It's helped me, as I'm also looking for a bundle package!

:)[/quote]



You could go for VDSL naked and share a line with your neighbor(s) via WIFI.

You just need a router that does QoS for the VOIP stuff (and probably also a VOIP-PABX) and probably a WIFI access-point with a very high output-power to overcome the walls...

;-)

Of course, you can't share the mobile...







Rainer
rainer_d, Aug 25, 2008 @ 13:34