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Hi there, 


My partner and I have recently moved to Geneva from Scotland where we have had a very active mountaineering life. 


We are very capable mountaineers, have both climbed in the alps during past summers - and are looking for a club to join to make friends, go on trips, become part of a climbing/mountaineering community. 


We will climb at the local walls ...but I would like to know if there are mountaineering groups that are ok to join for non-french speaker. We both intend to work very hard to learn french but currently we only know basics. 


I have looked into Amis-montagnards which looks like a great community - but I am concious of our lack of local language and whether they would be a good group to join?


I looked into the CERN climbing 'mailing list' but this seems to have been removed now. 


Any advice I would greatly appreciate - we would love to get away at the weekends with like-minded folk (this weekend even!)


Thank you in advance for any help


Becky

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Hi there, 


My partner and I have recently moved to Geneva from Scotland where we have had a very active mountaineering life. 


We are very capable mountaineers, have both climbed in the alps during past summers - and are looking for a club to join to make friends, go on trips, become part of a climbing/mountaineering community. 


We will climb at the local walls ...but I would like to know if there are mountaineering groups that are ok to join for non-french speaker. We both intend to work very hard to learn french but currently we only know basics. 


I have looked into Amis-montagnards which looks like a great community - but I am concious of our lack of local language and whether they would be a good group to join?


I looked into the CERN climbing 'mailing list' but this seems to have been removed now. 


Any advice I would greatly appreciate - we would love to get away at the weekends with like-minded folk (this weekend even!)


Thank you in advance for any help


Becky


Rebeca SMar 12, 2015 @ 12:21
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Rebecca - have you checked the Groups on this site ? I see there are at least 4 under 'climbing'

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Rebecca - have you checked the Groups on this site ? I see there are at least 4 under 'climbing'


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It sounds to me as if you are serious


 to see which suits you best.


Amis montagnards are good and my understanding is that they are younger the the Club Alpin Suisse


Having said that there are two sections of the CAS in Geneva canton - one in Carouge and one in Geneva and you need to check the programmes of both


The websites are www.cas-geneve.ch and I think www.cas-gag.ch or www.gag.ch It stands for groupe alpinisme genevois or something like and became a section of the Swiss alpine Club despite fierce opposition from the Geneva section


The advantage of joining a proper club is that you arem led by mountain leaders (not guides  but some are almost as good) and it forces you to learn French.  many participasnts speak English but the language is French.


I would not recommend the glocals groups as ^little is offered in the way of alpinism (there areexceptions but you can jusdge the competence of the person offering by the way the walk is subscribed.


I rartely announce my outings on glocals as they are usually oversubscribed by club members or to difficult for me to risk taking somebody I do not know.  Here I am talkingPD alpinsim


However if you are talkin levels harder that PD peu difficile there are very few outings offered by clubs which go into the the AD and D categories - the simploe reason bieng a lack of competent leaders and the fact that you have to limit the number of people to maybe 4 at the most which is not very conducive to club conviiality. 


I am too old to offer anything serious and anyway am only certified up to PD which is more high mountain / glacier wandering which one or two slightly difficult section but no more than grade III


Hope that helps


I cam here with schoolboy French (albeit up to A level but had not spoken the langiage for 30 years except to order beer and coffe in transit and it is tanks to CAS and other clubs in Geneva that I can more or less hold my own in French.


Non French (minimal French) speakers are usually welcomed but ones who make no effort to learn are eventually ignored


Hope taht helps 

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It sounds to me as if you are serious


 to see which suits you best.


Amis montagnards are good and my understanding is that they are younger the the Club Alpin Suisse


Having said that there are two sections of the CAS in Geneva canton - one in Carouge and one in Geneva and you need to check the programmes of both


The websites are www.cas-geneve.ch and I think www.cas-gag.ch or www.gag.ch It stands for groupe alpinisme genevois or something like and became a section of the Swiss alpine Club despite fierce opposition from the Geneva section


The advantage of joining a proper club is that you arem led by mountain leaders (not guides  but some are almost as good) and it forces you to learn French.  many participasnts speak English but the language is French.


I would not recommend the glocals groups as ^little is offered in the way of alpinism (there areexceptions but you can jusdge the competence of the person offering by the way the walk is subscribed.


I rartely announce my outings on glocals as they are usually oversubscribed by club members or to difficult for me to risk taking somebody I do not know.  Here I am talkingPD alpinsim


However if you are talkin levels harder that PD peu difficile there are very few outings offered by clubs which go into the the AD and D categories - the simploe reason bieng a lack of competent leaders and the fact that you have to limit the number of people to maybe 4 at the most which is not very conducive to club conviiality. 


I am too old to offer anything serious and anyway am only certified up to PD which is more high mountain / glacier wandering which one or two slightly difficult section but no more than grade III


Hope that helps


I cam here with schoolboy French (albeit up to A level but had not spoken the langiage for 30 years except to order beer and coffe in transit and it is tanks to CAS and other clubs in Geneva that I can more or less hold my own in French.


Non French (minimal French) speakers are usually welcomed but ones who make no effort to learn are eventually ignored


Hope taht helps 


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And I have even taken the Swiss Alpine Club members to Scotland on 4 or 5 occasions but to walk not doing anyxthing more difficult that the Aonoch Eagach ridge in horizontal rane and the Ben Nevis horseshoe in 60-80mph gusts

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And I have even taken the Swiss Alpine Club members to Scotland on 4 or 5 occasions but to walk not doing anyxthing more difficult that the Aonoch Eagach ridge in horizontal rane and the Ben Nevis horseshoe in 60-80mph gusts


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It sounds to me as if you are serious

 to see which suits you best.

Amis montagnards are good and my understanding is that they are younger the the Club Alpin Suisse

Having said that there are two sections of the CAS in Geneva canton - one in Carouge and one in Geneva and you need to check the programmes of both

The websites are www.cas-geneve.ch and I think www.cas-gag.ch or www.gag.ch It stands for groupe alpinisme genevois or something like and became a section of the Swiss alpine Club despite fierce opposition from the Geneva section

The advantage of joining a proper club is that you arem led by mountain leaders (not guides  but some are almost as good) and it forces you to learn French.  many participasnts speak English but the language is French.

I would not recommend the glocals groups as ^little is offered in the way of alpinism (there areexceptions but you can jusdge the competence of the person offering by the way the walk is subscribed.

I rartely announce my outings on glocals as they are usually oversubscribed by club members or to difficult for me to risk taking somebody I do not know.  Here I am talkingPD alpinsim

However if you are talkin levels harder that PD peu difficile there are very few outings offered by clubs which go into the the AD and D categories - the simploe reason bieng a lack of competent leaders and the fact that you have to limit the number of people to maybe 4 at the most which is not very conducive to club conviiality. 

I am too old to offer anything serious and anyway am only certified up to PD which is more high mountain / glacier wandering which one or two slightly difficult section but no more than grade III

Hope that helps

I cam here with schoolboy French (albeit up to A level but had not spoken the langiage for 30 years except to order beer and coffe in transit and it is tanks to CAS and other clubs in Geneva that I can more or less hold my own in French.

Non French (minimal French) speakers are usually welcomed but ones who make no effort to learn are eventually ignored

Hope taht helps 


Mar 12, 15 14:22

Thank you for your reply!


'sound serious' ....hmmm, :-). I didnt intend to. We have both climbed in alps to TD+ but generally far prefer doing less serious stuff off the beaten track and having an enjoyable time in the hills with like-minded folk. In Scotland, we would go away with a large group of people for the weekend and split into groups for different grade climbs/walks - this is what I was hoping to find here.


I will head along to the amis montagnarde group meet on Tuesday next week and keep an eye open for similar meets to introduce ourselves with the CAS...I will look into them further. 


As for the french - I will sure try my hardest. 


Thank you again for your response!

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Thank you for your reply!


'sound serious' ....hmmm, :-). I didnt intend to. We have both climbed in alps to TD+ but generally far prefer doing less serious stuff off the beaten track and having an enjoyable time in the hills with like-minded folk. In Scotland, we would go away with a large group of people for the weekend and split into groups for different grade climbs/walks - this is what I was hoping to find here.


I will head along to the amis montagnarde group meet on Tuesday next week and keep an eye open for similar meets to introduce ourselves with the CAS...I will look into them further. 


As for the french - I will sure try my hardest. 


Thank you again for your response!


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