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Is anyone familiar with an alternative to paying a 3 month deposit by opening a bank account and putting 3 months rent as a guarantee?


I head you could purchase some kind of insurance for 100-150 CHF per year that would be equivalent to doing this.


If you have a link or name of the company that does this could you please forward it to me?


Thank you.

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Is anyone familiar with an alternative to paying a 3 month deposit by opening a bank account and putting 3 months rent as a guarantee?


I head you could purchase some kind of insurance for 100-150 CHF per year that would be equivalent to doing this.


If you have a link or name of the company that does this could you please forward it to me?


Thank you.


mjlotharAug 25, 2010 @ 16:26
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Never heard of this but why not ask the régie or your bank.  If it is true then one or the other should tell you.  

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Never heard of this but why not ask the régie or your bank.  If it is true then one or the other should tell you.  


Paul E, Aug 25, 2010 @ 16:35
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This is probably what you mean:
http://www.swisscaution.ch/en/home


Not all "régies" accept it, but most do.

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This is probably what you mean:
http://www.swisscaution.ch/en/home


Not all "régies" accept it, but most do.


Andrei, Aug 25, 2010 @ 16:37
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Thanks Andrei, thats exactly what I was looking for.


Julie

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Thanks Andrei, thats exactly what I was looking for.


Julie


mjlothar, Aug 25, 2010 @ 16:59
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Julie,


As far as I remember, they have English-speaking staff also.


Good luck!


Andrei

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Julie,


As far as I remember, they have English-speaking staff also.


Good luck!


Andrei


Andrei, Aug 25, 2010 @ 17:31
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I used Swiss Caution when I first moved to Geneva.  It works and it's fairly easy to do just by filling in a form and paying your money.  And their office was conveniently located right next to the regie!  But to state the obvious, you are paying out an insurance premium which is obviously non-refundable, and I think mine was more than the 100-150CHF you mentioned. When I moved flat - 6 months after the renewal date of the "Caution"- I never figured out (too many other things to do when moving) whether I was eligible for a part refund for the unused part of the year, so ended up having paid the 12 month premium for a 6 month period.


I then put down 3 months deposit on my next flat - equally easy to set up at my bank.

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I used Swiss Caution when I first moved to Geneva.  It works and it's fairly easy to do just by filling in a form and paying your money.  And their office was conveniently located right next to the regie!  But to state the obvious, you are paying out an insurance premium which is obviously non-refundable, and I think mine was more than the 100-150CHF you mentioned. When I moved flat - 6 months after the renewal date of the "Caution"- I never figured out (too many other things to do when moving) whether I was eligible for a part refund for the unused part of the year, so ended up having paid the 12 month premium for a 6 month period.


I then put down 3 months deposit on my next flat - equally easy to set up at my bank.


S99_Geneva, Aug 26, 2010 @ 10:32
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Agree it is a mathematical decision. If you go on to their website there is a ready calculator.  If you key in CHF 6000 (3 x monthly rent of 2000)  this gives you a registration premium of CHF 231 plus a yearly premium of CHF 336.  So 587 if you stay only a year. Alternatively if you use them all your stay in Switzerland and you stay 20 years you will pay CHF 6951 in premiums.   Remember it does not protect you from any claims the lanlord may have on you it is just a premium inlieu of a bank guarantee.  

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Agree it is a mathematical decision. If you go on to their website there is a ready calculator.  If you key in CHF 6000 (3 x monthly rent of 2000)  this gives you a registration premium of CHF 231 plus a yearly premium of CHF 336.  So 587 if you stay only a year. Alternatively if you use them all your stay in Switzerland and you stay 20 years you will pay CHF 6951 in premiums.   Remember it does not protect you from any claims the lanlord may have on you it is just a premium inlieu of a bank guarantee.  


Paul E, Aug 26, 2010 @ 10:45
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Just to be clear: If when you move out there are damages to pay for they are not covered by Swiss Caution.  You still have to pay for any damages out of your own pocket.  To quote from the Swiss Caution website:


If your lessor has claims against you and if you agree, SwissCaution will directly pay claims.  You must then reimburse SwissCaution the amount paid to your lessor.


 

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Just to be clear: If when you move out there are damages to pay for they are not covered by Swiss Caution.  You still have to pay for any damages out of your own pocket.  To quote from the Swiss Caution website:


If your lessor has claims against you and if you agree, SwissCaution will directly pay claims.  You must then reimburse SwissCaution the amount paid to your lessor.


 


fiorinic, Aug 26, 2010 @ 16:27
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Yes, but every tenant is supposed to have renter's insurance aka résponsabilité civilé (RC).  That generally covers any damage.  It's best to join ASLOCA, the tenants' rights association, for chf 50 francs for year.

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Yes, but every tenant is supposed to have renter's insurance aka résponsabilité civilé (RC).  That generally covers any damage.  It's best to join ASLOCA, the tenants' rights association, for chf 50 francs for year.


Translator, Aug 27, 2010 @ 19:32
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I've also had this caution system proposed to me and I believe it's a complete rip-off (unless you don't have the money for the 3-month deposit, in which case you hardly qualify for renting a flat anyway).  A deposit sits in a separate account on your bank and continues to accumulate interests -- you just can't touch it until the end of the lease, when you get it back plus all the interests.  A caution instead may cost you 700 CHF/year and it's all wasted money.  

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I've also had this caution system proposed to me and I believe it's a complete rip-off (unless you don't have the money for the 3-month deposit, in which case you hardly qualify for renting a flat anyway).  A deposit sits in a separate account on your bank and continues to accumulate interests -- you just can't touch it until the end of the lease, when you get it back plus all the interests.  A caution instead may cost you 700 CHF/year and it's all wasted money.  


TheOmegaMan, Aug 27, 2010 @ 21:01
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Hello !


 


I am working at UBS Bank, so I might can help you... Swiss Cauton is effectively a solution if you do not have the three month deposit but it will cost you more than if you have the money. 


The etablishement of a surety for lease account cost betweek 20 - 50CHF depending of the amount of the surety. And it is very easy to do(just take an appointment at the bank and come with the "bail à loyer".


The advanage is first : you do no have any more fees after the price of the etablishement and secondly : you get an interest on the money you put on the saving surety for lease account...


You have to see what would be the best and most interesting for you. 


Let me know if I can help you :-)


 

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Hello !


 


I am working at UBS Bank, so I might can help you... Swiss Cauton is effectively a solution if you do not have the three month deposit but it will cost you more than if you have the money. 


The etablishement of a surety for lease account cost betweek 20 - 50CHF depending of the amount of the surety. And it is very easy to do(just take an appointment at the bank and come with the "bail à loyer".


The advanage is first : you do no have any more fees after the price of the etablishement and secondly : you get an interest on the money you put on the saving surety for lease account...


You have to see what would be the best and most interesting for you. 


Let me know if I can help you :-)


 


Stéphanie K, Sep 1, 2010 @ 19:56
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