Arcobaleno_2Feb 23, 2009 @ 17:20
1) Minimize calories intake that is eat better and less
2) Maximize calories outtake, that is exercise
A combination of both as well as common sense (balanced diet and reasonable exercise) is better. All the rest is marketing...
Now, if the program you are referring to is that expansive, it must be damned good; it sure will work :)
1) Minimize calories intake that is eat better and less
2) Maximize calories outtake, that is exercise
A combination of both as well as common sense (balanced diet and reasonable exercise) is better. All the rest is marketing...
Now, if the program you are referring to is that expansive, it must be damned good; it sure will work :)
Free, Feb 24, 2009 @ 01:04
1) Minimize calories intake that is eat better and less
2) Maximize calories outtake, that is exercise
A combination of both as well as common sense (balanced diet and reasonable exercise) is better. All the rest is marketing...
Now, if the program you are referring to is that expansive, it must be damned good; it sure will work :)</quote>
Tequila,
I used Therafom, and can warmly recommend them. I lost 15kg in the past year, based on principles and habit I learned there.
The 'secret' indeed, as Free said, is not a big secret: burn more calories than you take in. But Theraform help.
They were so good that we're about to launch a promo campaign to all glocals members for them, and I wrote this testmonial about Therafom for them.
Good luck!
Nir
1) Minimize calories intake that is eat better and less
2) Maximize calories outtake, that is exercise
A combination of both as well as common sense (balanced diet and reasonable exercise) is better. All the rest is marketing...
Now, if the program you are referring to is that expansive, it must be damned good; it sure will work :)</quote>
Tequila,
I used Therafom, and can warmly recommend them. I lost 15kg in the past year, based on principles and habit I learned there.
The 'secret' indeed, as Free said, is not a big secret: burn more calories than you take in. But Theraform help.
They were so good that we're about to launch a promo campaign to all glocals members for them, and I wrote this testmonial about Therafom for them.
Good luck!
Nir
Nir Ofek, Feb 24, 2009 @ 16:38
I think I am going to go to the info session and then see...
I think I am going to go to the info session and then see...
Arcobaleno_2, Feb 24, 2009 @ 16:51
Free, Feb 24, 2009 @ 17:11
I fully agree with you. The fact I paid a lot of money for the program was a real incentive for me to stick to it, especially in the hard weeks of the beginning (before better eating becomes a habit).
I remember thinking 'damn, I paid CHF 1000, so I need to lose weight, so I will NOT eat this chocolat bar!'
Nir
I fully agree with you. The fact I paid a lot of money for the program was a real incentive for me to stick to it, especially in the hard weeks of the beginning (before better eating becomes a habit).
I remember thinking 'damn, I paid CHF 1000, so I need to lose weight, so I will NOT eat this chocolat bar!'
Nir
Nir Ofek, Feb 24, 2009 @ 17:32
(by the way no comment on theraform in particular, i've never heard of it, but the weight loss industry is not top of my list of favourites...)
Today's Guardian:
Our disordered approach to eating
Obesity and anorexia are on the rise. When we're bombarded with such mixed messages about food, it's not surprising
* Rowenna Davis
*
o Rowenna Davis
o guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 24 February 2009 14.30 GMT
o Article history
How can a society that is so overweight simultaneously be experiencing rising rates of anorexia? It sounds paradoxical, but it's true. Yesterday we were told that the "country's expanding waistline" was primarily responsible for a 74% rise in diabetes in 10 years; today we heard that the number of girls who have been hospitalised with anorexia had increased by 80% in the same time.
Obesity and anorexia might be startlingly different to look at, but they are likely to be symptoms of the same problem – a culture that has a disordered approach to eating.
The paradoxical rise in the numbers of under and overweight people is hardly surprising when you look at the barrage of confused and contradictory messages we are bombarded with: "eat more weigh less" (Weight Watchers has just brought out a new chocolate brownie as part of their good dieting plan); "eat less graze more" (the new 2009 Lunch Box diet). Meanwhile, food companies (estimated to spend some £300m/year on information packs for schools) are reportedly telling students that crisps make a healthier snack than apples because they contain "essential fats".
Once sick, our response to eating disorders may be compounding the problems at hand. Media stories, consumer industries and government campaigns make us worry about what we put in our mouths; "obesegenic society" is a best selling moral panic and anorexic photos have great shock value. In the middle of such a frenzy, it's hard to listen to your gut instinct and just eat when you're hungry. A consultant psychiatrist on this morning's Today programme said that our country's obsession with obesity may well be fuelling a rise in anorexia. After all, one in four young people might be overweight, but two out of three girls think they're fat.
Our society is vulnerable to such mixed messages. Psychiatrists and researchers frequently say that whether you suffer from anorexia or obesity, eating disorders are often expressions of – and a means of coping with - deeper problems. It is no surprise that the UK, which has disproportionately high numbers of young obese and anorexic children, also reports an incredibly unhappy younger population, growing up in more stressful environments.
Alexandra Fawcett has questioned the recently published figures, but the consensus is that eating disorders are widely prevalent and growing fast. What's more, these figures are changing too quickly to be explained by genetic factors alone. We are dealing with a problem that is deeply rooted in our society and culture. Action is needed to address the similar underlying causes of these illnesses, and to assess our reaction to the disorders themselves. Maybe then society can get back into balance.
(by the way no comment on theraform in particular, i've never heard of it, but the weight loss industry is not top of my list of favourites...)
Today's Guardian:
Our disordered approach to eating
Obesity and anorexia are on the rise. When we're bombarded with such mixed messages about food, it's not surprising
* Rowenna Davis
*
o Rowenna Davis
o guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 24 February 2009 14.30 GMT
o Article history
How can a society that is so overweight simultaneously be experiencing rising rates of anorexia? It sounds paradoxical, but it's true. Yesterday we were told that the "country's expanding waistline" was primarily responsible for a 74% rise in diabetes in 10 years; today we heard that the number of girls who have been hospitalised with anorexia had increased by 80% in the same time.
Obesity and anorexia might be startlingly different to look at, but they are likely to be symptoms of the same problem – a culture that has a disordered approach to eating.
The paradoxical rise in the numbers of under and overweight people is hardly surprising when you look at the barrage of confused and contradictory messages we are bombarded with: "eat more weigh less" (Weight Watchers has just brought out a new chocolate brownie as part of their good dieting plan); "eat less graze more" (the new 2009 Lunch Box diet). Meanwhile, food companies (estimated to spend some £300m/year on information packs for schools) are reportedly telling students that crisps make a healthier snack than apples because they contain "essential fats".
Once sick, our response to eating disorders may be compounding the problems at hand. Media stories, consumer industries and government campaigns make us worry about what we put in our mouths; "obesegenic society" is a best selling moral panic and anorexic photos have great shock value. In the middle of such a frenzy, it's hard to listen to your gut instinct and just eat when you're hungry. A consultant psychiatrist on this morning's Today programme said that our country's obsession with obesity may well be fuelling a rise in anorexia. After all, one in four young people might be overweight, but two out of three girls think they're fat.
Our society is vulnerable to such mixed messages. Psychiatrists and researchers frequently say that whether you suffer from anorexia or obesity, eating disorders are often expressions of – and a means of coping with - deeper problems. It is no surprise that the UK, which has disproportionately high numbers of young obese and anorexic children, also reports an incredibly unhappy younger population, growing up in more stressful environments.
Alexandra Fawcett has questioned the recently published figures, but the consensus is that eating disorders are widely prevalent and growing fast. What's more, these figures are changing too quickly to be explained by genetic factors alone. We are dealing with a problem that is deeply rooted in our society and culture. Action is needed to address the similar underlying causes of these illnesses, and to assess our reaction to the disorders themselves. Maybe then society can get back into balance.
hucklewoo, Feb 24, 2009 @ 18:02
- a good dietetician
- private sport coach or fitness
- special treatment in a spa when you have lost 3kg
good luck:)
- a good dietetician
- private sport coach or fitness
- special treatment in a spa when you have lost 3kg
good luck:)
happy4u, Feb 24, 2009 @ 19:13
I did 3 Theraform sessions in the last week, through BuyClub/glocals offer (mentioned by Nir above.)
I started at 95kg on Tuesday. I am at 91kg 6 days later.
(Background info: I was at 113kg in August, when I started exercising. I was at 103.5kg in mid-Feb, when I started a healthy balanced diet. So I was already 'on my way' to losing weight anyway.)
Here is my evaluation:
The two women who work at Theraform are very nice. One is a bit eccentric, but very interesting and lovely. Without being mean, I do find it a bit odd that neither of the two women is in great shape - if Theraform was so fantastic, why aren't the results more evident for them personally?
The dietary information they give you is pretty simplistic. I am sure that it works - but I also think you can probably get better, more trustworthy dietary information from doctors who specialize as dieticians. I also think that the Dieticians who work at Holmes Place (also a previous offer on Buyclub) have better, more personalized plans. But don't get me wrong - their ideas on how to eat healthily and diet will surely produce results, and its always good to get more info from different sources.
The 'massages' are not really massages - its like being poked in various places for 30-45 minutes. I described it to a friend who remarked that it sounded like 'acupuncture without the needles', and I think that description is right. Its impossible for sceptics to be sure about whether this process is useful or not - I am quite sceptical, but I know for a fact that acupuncture works, and I know for a fact that I lost 4kg in 1 week (with exercise, of course), so I'm not sure what to make of it.
My conclusion:
Theraform seems to work. There might be cheaper or more cost-effective ways of losing weight, especially if you like to play sports or go to the gym (exercise+calorie management = weight loss, no matter what), but Theraform helped me lose 4kg in 1 week and I'm down at 91.5kg, which is lower than I've ever been before, and quite close to my goal (87kg).
PS: Theraform recommends at least 6 treatments in 2 weeks, followed by several weeks of 1x treatment per week. I did only 3 treatments in 1 week. They were concerned about this - I'm not, because I now have a good diet and exercise 6-9 times per week. But its worth knowing this before you take too much notice of my own experience!
I did 3 Theraform sessions in the last week, through BuyClub/glocals offer (mentioned by Nir above.)
I started at 95kg on Tuesday. I am at 91kg 6 days later.
(Background info: I was at 113kg in August, when I started exercising. I was at 103.5kg in mid-Feb, when I started a healthy balanced diet. So I was already 'on my way' to losing weight anyway.)
Here is my evaluation:
The two women who work at Theraform are very nice. One is a bit eccentric, but very interesting and lovely. Without being mean, I do find it a bit odd that neither of the two women is in great shape - if Theraform was so fantastic, why aren't the results more evident for them personally?
The dietary information they give you is pretty simplistic. I am sure that it works - but I also think you can probably get better, more trustworthy dietary information from doctors who specialize as dieticians. I also think that the Dieticians who work at Holmes Place (also a previous offer on Buyclub) have better, more personalized plans. But don't get me wrong - their ideas on how to eat healthily and diet will surely produce results, and its always good to get more info from different sources.
The 'massages' are not really massages - its like being poked in various places for 30-45 minutes. I described it to a friend who remarked that it sounded like 'acupuncture without the needles', and I think that description is right. Its impossible for sceptics to be sure about whether this process is useful or not - I am quite sceptical, but I know for a fact that acupuncture works, and I know for a fact that I lost 4kg in 1 week (with exercise, of course), so I'm not sure what to make of it.
My conclusion:
Theraform seems to work. There might be cheaper or more cost-effective ways of losing weight, especially if you like to play sports or go to the gym (exercise+calorie management = weight loss, no matter what), but Theraform helped me lose 4kg in 1 week and I'm down at 91.5kg, which is lower than I've ever been before, and quite close to my goal (87kg).
PS: Theraform recommends at least 6 treatments in 2 weeks, followed by several weeks of 1x treatment per week. I did only 3 treatments in 1 week. They were concerned about this - I'm not, because I now have a good diet and exercise 6-9 times per week. But its worth knowing this before you take too much notice of my own experience!
Oliver D, Apr 8, 2013 @ 15:02
hucklewoo:
I think you make a fair point, but I think a lot of people have 'unhealthy relationships' with food anyway, without dieting or watching calories.
Most of my diet previously consisted of croissants, sandwiches, pizzas, pastas and red meat, plus an average of 1.5-2.0 litres of beer per night.
You can say "wow, well, you were clearly an idiot when it came to food" - but I was never alone in eating this way, plenty of people do, including friends of mine who are as thin as sticks.
I would argue that some people need to draw a line in the sand and decide, "from now on, I will only eat [whatever] 1x per week, and the rest of the time I will eat a balanced diet mostly comprising of vegetables, with a small amount of fish/chicken and a small amount of carbs." I was one of those people.
I do now constantly worry about # of calories in everything I eat... I do restrict how much beer I drink due to calories... I wouldn't go to McDonalds or the like, in any circumstance... but does my focus on diet and calories really mean my relationship with food is 'unhealthy'? I don't think it does.
hucklewoo:
I think you make a fair point, but I think a lot of people have 'unhealthy relationships' with food anyway, without dieting or watching calories.
Most of my diet previously consisted of croissants, sandwiches, pizzas, pastas and red meat, plus an average of 1.5-2.0 litres of beer per night.
You can say "wow, well, you were clearly an idiot when it came to food" - but I was never alone in eating this way, plenty of people do, including friends of mine who are as thin as sticks.
I would argue that some people need to draw a line in the sand and decide, "from now on, I will only eat [whatever] 1x per week, and the rest of the time I will eat a balanced diet mostly comprising of vegetables, with a small amount of fish/chicken and a small amount of carbs." I was one of those people.
I do now constantly worry about # of calories in everything I eat... I do restrict how much beer I drink due to calories... I wouldn't go to McDonalds or the like, in any circumstance... but does my focus on diet and calories really mean my relationship with food is 'unhealthy'? I don't think it does.
Oliver D, Apr 8, 2013 @ 15:13
Interestingly, research shows that all diet and weight-loss programmes result in some measure of weight-loss, regardless of their legitimacy or otherwise. It is thought that this is because participants take the trouble to think about what they are eating, which most people typically don't do. A lot of people find that keeping a food-diary has the same effect for the same reasons.
Interestingly, research shows that all diet and weight-loss programmes result in some measure of weight-loss, regardless of their legitimacy or otherwise. It is thought that this is because participants take the trouble to think about what they are eating, which most people typically don't do. A lot of people find that keeping a food-diary has the same effect for the same reasons.
Andy C, Apr 8, 2013 @ 18:38
