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Bohemian Rhapsody

Am not really a fan of Queen but thought the film might be interesting,given the extravagant lifestyle of the lead singer.


I wonder if Freddie would have recognised himself? I doubt it. This came across as an old- fashioned Hollywood biopic: hilarious scene of Freddie with first lover shows him on top of her with lower body covered ,and her with blanket wrapped around most of her naked body ( Doris Day would have been proud) ; the homosexuality and excesses of his famous partying are presented as if to say,as the Guardian so wittily put it " he got in with the wrong crowd".


I guess they were aiming to make this a family friendly film......but what would a parent say to the child who asks " Why did Freddie and that man look at eachother in such a strange way as the man was going into the men's toilet?" - a fair question since the film steers clear of any explanation!


Disappointingly santised story.


 

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Am not really a fan of Queen but thought the film might be interesting,given the extravagant lifestyle of the lead singer.


I wonder if Freddie would have recognised himself? I doubt it. This came across as an old- fashioned Hollywood biopic: hilarious scene of Freddie with first lover shows him on top of her with lower body covered ,and her with blanket wrapped around most of her naked body ( Doris Day would have been proud) ; the homosexuality and excesses of his famous partying are presented as if to say,as the Guardian so wittily put it " he got in with the wrong crowd".


I guess they were aiming to make this a family friendly film......but what would a parent say to the child who asks " Why did Freddie and that man look at eachother in such a strange way as the man was going into the men's toilet?" - a fair question since the film steers clear of any explanation!


Disappointingly santised story.


 


buzzcocksNov 4, 2018 @ 21:04
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The music is nice....

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The music is nice....


buzzcocks, Nov 4, 2018 @ 21:08
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Am not really a fan of Queen but thought the film might be interesting,given the extravagant lifestyle of the lead singer.

I wonder if Freddie would have recognised himself? I doubt it. This came across as an old- fashioned Hollywood biopic: hilarious scene of Freddie with first lover shows him on top of her with lower body covered ,and her with blanket wrapped around most of her naked body ( Doris Day would have been proud) ; the homosexuality and excesses of his famous partying are presented as if to say,as the Guardian so wittily put it " he got in with the wrong crowd".

I guess they were aiming to make this a family friendly film......but what would a parent say to the child who asks " Why did Freddie and that man look at eachother in such a strange way as the man was going into the men's toilet?" - a fair question since the film steers clear of any explanation!

Disappointingly santised story.

 


Nov 4, 18 21:04

I would agree. However friendly you try making the movie there will be some innuendos that cannot be explained to a kid. I liked how they have stuck to his life and showed how he really was. And yes, the music was really good! Great job Rami Malek for this acting

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I would agree. However friendly you try making the movie there will be some innuendos that cannot be explained to a kid. I liked how they have stuck to his life and showed how he really was. And yes, the music was really good! Great job Rami Malek for this acting


Bryan McMullan, Mar 29, 2019 @ 07:57
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But the point is, they didn’t « stick to his life » in fact,since they made it all cosy and family -film -visit friendly,which strikes me as a cop out.One might say they stuck to a version of his life that fitted the needs of the filmmakers to make a product that would be easy to sell to a wide public - and the true story got pushed to the side, since it would not fit well with the «  brand image »

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But the point is, they didn’t « stick to his life » in fact,since they made it all cosy and family -film -visit friendly,which strikes me as a cop out.One might say they stuck to a version of his life that fitted the needs of the filmmakers to make a product that would be easy to sell to a wide public - and the true story got pushed to the side, since it would not fit well with the «  brand image »


buzzcocks, Mar 29, 2019 @ 12:22
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But the point is, they didn’t « stick to his life » in fact,since they made it all cosy and family -film -visit friendly,which strikes me as a cop out.One might say they stuck to a version of his life that fitted the needs of the filmmakers to make a product that would be easy to sell to a wide public - and the true story got pushed to the side, since it would not fit well with the «  brand image »


Mar 29, 19 12:22

Totally agree - to date there have been about 15 counts of total inaccuracy, but then Brian and Roger were on the production team and they knew him better than anyone, so I suppose they're allowed a little artistic license.  


I'd prefer to have seen it played by Sacha Baron Cohen (personally) who was the first choice of Freddie - he'd have made it far more "real".  


Rami Malek annoyed me instensely!!  


Hope they don't do the same with Rocketman..... :-) 

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Totally agree - to date there have been about 15 counts of total inaccuracy, but then Brian and Roger were on the production team and they knew him better than anyone, so I suppose they're allowed a little artistic license.  


I'd prefer to have seen it played by Sacha Baron Cohen (personally) who was the first choice of Freddie - he'd have made it far more "real".  


Rami Malek annoyed me instensely!!  


Hope they don't do the same with Rocketman..... :-) 


Carolyn C, Mar 29, 2019 @ 13:00
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So while I would agree there were a lot of inaccuracies, basically you two are banging on about wanting to see a gay porn film with him noshing off as many groupies as he could handle to make it "real"?


I think the issue was Bryan Singer being sacked as Director and replaced and Dexter Fletcher trying to complete this which added to a lot of editing. However, you must admit the Live Aid section was incredibly well done.

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So while I would agree there were a lot of inaccuracies, basically you two are banging on about wanting to see a gay porn film with him noshing off as many groupies as he could handle to make it "real"?


I think the issue was Bryan Singer being sacked as Director and replaced and Dexter Fletcher trying to complete this which added to a lot of editing. However, you must admit the Live Aid section was incredibly well done.


Rich, Mar 29, 2019 @ 21:29
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Ha ha, I can’t speak for Carolyn, but personally I had no desire to observe the tantalising image you have now dangled before us Rich.Just would have liked something more honest and less coy ( as I said, even  the girlfriend and boyfriend on the sofa scene  was laughably unrealistic) It’s rather sad that in the 21st century, we are almost going back to a 1950’s way of presenting ( ie denying) sexuality ,gay or straight.


A biography is  meant to be a biography, not just a pretext for playing old hits to a cozy, feel good story.

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Ha ha, I can’t speak for Carolyn, but personally I had no desire to observe the tantalising image you have now dangled before us Rich.Just would have liked something more honest and less coy ( as I said, even  the girlfriend and boyfriend on the sofa scene  was laughably unrealistic) It’s rather sad that in the 21st century, we are almost going back to a 1950’s way of presenting ( ie denying) sexuality ,gay or straight.


A biography is  meant to be a biography, not just a pretext for playing old hits to a cozy, feel good story.


buzzcocks, Mar 29, 2019 @ 21:55
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Rich, it would be like a future biopic of Morrissey, presenting him as a man who simply liked animals too much to eat them.....and frequently expressed sadness that other people did not follow his example. Likewise, he sometimes said things that a few people suspected were, very slightly, a little bit racist.

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Rich, it would be like a future biopic of Morrissey, presenting him as a man who simply liked animals too much to eat them.....and frequently expressed sadness that other people did not follow his example. Likewise, he sometimes said things that a few people suspected were, very slightly, a little bit racist.
buzzcocks, Mar 29, 2019 @ 22:03

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Ha ha, I can’t speak for Carolyn, but personally I had no desire to observe the tantalising image you have now dangled before us Rich.Just would have liked something more honest and less coy ( as I said, even  the girlfriend and boyfriend on the sofa scene  was laughably unrealistic) It’s rather sad that in the 21st century, we are almost going back to a 1950’s way of presenting ( ie denying) sexuality ,gay or straight.

A biography is  meant to be a biography, not just a pretext for playing old hits to a cozy, feel good story.


Mar 29, 19 21:55

Fair enough! Sealed



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Fair enough! Sealed


Rich, Mar 29, 2019 @ 22:04
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I had a great time watching this film thanks to the music numbers and despite the soppyness of this pseudo bio. IMO the film has 'mass entertainment' written all over it so I wasn't disappointed, as that was what I expected. Even though I was never a Queen fan I really enjoyed itfor what it is, a celebration of Freddy  Mercury and Queen. If you want a better insight into Freddy Mercury's life and career I think there's a documentary which came out years ago and it's probably available on youtube.

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I had a great time watching this film thanks to the music numbers and despite the soppyness of this pseudo bio. IMO the film has 'mass entertainment' written all over it so I wasn't disappointed, as that was what I expected. Even though I was never a Queen fan I really enjoyed itfor what it is, a celebration of Freddy  Mercury and Queen. If you want a better insight into Freddy Mercury's life and career I think there's a documentary which came out years ago and it's probably available on youtube.


robi, Mar 30, 2019 @ 10:50
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Ha ha, I can’t speak for Carolyn, but personally I had no desire to observe the tantalising image you have now dangled before us Rich.Just would have liked something more honest and less coy ( as I said, even  the girlfriend and boyfriend on the sofa scene  was laughably unrealistic) It’s rather sad that in the 21st century, we are almost going back to a 1950’s way of presenting ( ie denying) sexuality ,gay or straight.

A biography is  meant to be a biography, not just a pretext for playing old hits to a cozy, feel good story.


Mar 29, 19 21:55

Well, that is the problem, Buzzcocks, just what made you think or expect it to be a biography? It is not even claimed in the marketing campaign. Furthermore, the film is consistent with Queen's approach:


"For decades now, Queen have implicitly deployed tried-and-true marketing techniques to do what experiential brands are supposed to do—generate consumer affinity and loyalty beyond reason. Bohemian Rhapsody is merely the latest coup from a band that has been market-oriented and brand-focused nearly from the jump."


Read this review to understand. You already know that it's "rife with fallacies, falsehoods, and profound omissions about Queen and their rise to international stardom." But the filmmakers had the support of surviving band members, who know the facts. 


But, "the members of Queen have behaved like what we now call “brand managers” since the mid ’70s." They supported the project, as it is, because it benefited the brand and brought them great financial benefits, with skyrocketing sales of their music and paraphernelia.


"No other biopic in recent memory has had as many corporate tie-ins—Bohemian Rhapsody enjoyed lucrative partnership deals with brands like John Lewis, Waitrose, Guitar Center, Hard Rock Café, Hot Topic, Lucky Brand, T-Mobile, and Vilebrequin."


"While Bohemian Rhapsody may be entertaining for some, it’s ultimately an entertaining fraud. It does what marketing is supposed to do, drawing consumers in by way of emotional storytelling."

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Well, that is the problem, Buzzcocks, just what made you think or expect it to be a biography? It is not even claimed in the marketing campaign. Furthermore, the film is consistent with Queen's approach:


"For decades now, Queen have implicitly deployed tried-and-true marketing techniques to do what experiential brands are supposed to do—generate consumer affinity and loyalty beyond reason. Bohemian Rhapsody is merely the latest coup from a band that has been market-oriented and brand-focused nearly from the jump."


Read this review to understand. You already know that it's "rife with fallacies, falsehoods, and profound omissions about Queen and their rise to international stardom." But the filmmakers had the support of surviving band members, who know the facts. 


But, "the members of Queen have behaved like what we now call “brand managers” since the mid ’70s." They supported the project, as it is, because it benefited the brand and brought them great financial benefits, with skyrocketing sales of their music and paraphernelia.


"No other biopic in recent memory has had as many corporate tie-ins—Bohemian Rhapsody enjoyed lucrative partnership deals with brands like John Lewis, Waitrose, Guitar Center, Hard Rock Café, Hot Topic, Lucky Brand, T-Mobile, and Vilebrequin."


"While Bohemian Rhapsody may be entertaining for some, it’s ultimately an entertaining fraud. It does what marketing is supposed to do, drawing consumers in by way of emotional storytelling."


JR M, Mar 30, 2019 @ 15:14
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Fascinating - thanks very much. May I have the source of what you quoted? It makes everything suddenly crystal clear!

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Fascinating - thanks very much. May I have the source of what you quoted? It makes everything suddenly crystal clear!


buzzcocks, Mar 30, 2019 @ 15:18
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Am not really a fan of Queen but thought the film might be interesting,given the extravagant lifestyle of the lead singer.

I wonder if Freddie would have recognised himself? I doubt it. This came across as an old- fashioned Hollywood biopic: hilarious scene of Freddie with first lover shows him on top of her with lower body covered ,and her with blanket wrapped around most of her naked body ( Doris Day would have been proud) ; the homosexuality and excesses of his famous partying are presented as if to say,as the Guardian so wittily put it " he got in with the wrong crowd".

I guess they were aiming to make this a family friendly film......but what would a parent say to the child who asks " Why did Freddie and that man look at eachother in such a strange way as the man was going into the men's toilet?" - a fair question since the film steers clear of any explanation!

Disappointingly santised story.

 


Nov 4, 18 21:04

Kids could get the impression that ambiguous approaches in toilet premises are a socially acceptable standard. And beware, it seems to be contagious as well…

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Kids could get the impression that ambiguous approaches in toilet premises are a socially acceptable standard. And beware, it seems to be contagious as well…


Elisabeth L, Mar 30, 2019 @ 16:45
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Fascinating - thanks very much. May I have the source of what you quoted? It makes everything suddenly crystal clear!


Mar 30, 19 15:18

It is a review by Jason King in "Pitchfork". I placed a link in "Read this review to understand." Here it is again:


https://pitchfork.com/features/article/queens-bohemian-rhapsody-is-now-the-biggest-music-biopic-ever-its-also-total-bullshit/

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It is a review by Jason King in "Pitchfork". I placed a link in "Read this review to understand." Here it is again:


https://pitchfork.com/features/article/queens-bohemian-rhapsody-is-now-the-biggest-music-biopic-ever-its-also-total-bullshit/


JR M, Mar 30, 2019 @ 19:16
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Kids could get the impression that ambiguous approaches in toilet premises are a socially acceptable standard. And beware, it seems to be contagious as well…


Mar 30, 19 16:45

You had me at "confused".....Laughing

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You had me at "confused".....Laughing


Carolyn C, Mar 30, 2019 @ 19:48
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