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Secondment negotiation tips - Zurich
Hi guys,

I've been poached by HQ for a 5+ month secondment in Zurich and am about to start negotiations..

Have never been on secondment, and have no idea how different life/cost of living etc.. is from OZ or the UK.. any tips from anyone who's gone through similar? So far I know they will provide accommodation, but not sure on what else to demand(!).. as I dont know how long I will be in Zurich I need to make sure I'm coving all my basis.

Cheers,

Billie 

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Hi guys,

I've been poached by HQ for a 5+ month secondment in Zurich and am about to start negotiations..

Have never been on secondment, and have no idea how different life/cost of living etc.. is from OZ or the UK.. any tips from anyone who's gone through similar? So far I know they will provide accommodation, but not sure on what else to demand(!).. as I dont know how long I will be in Zurich I need to make sure I'm coving all my basis.

Cheers,

Billie 
SparklesAug 19, 2008 @ 12:48

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Hi Billie

Can you please explain what a 'secondment in Zurich' means?

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Oded 

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Can you please explain what a 'secondment in Zurich' means?

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Oded 
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Hi Billie,



There are bunch of defined tax breaks in Zurich for workers considered to be 'temporary foreign specialists'.



The question is whether you will get an equivalent gross salary, in which case its worth making sure that those tax breaks are applied, as its you that will be better off, or whether your company will ensure you get the same net salary in which case lower taxes (for example) will be to their benefit rather than yours.



social charges should remain payable in your home country.



A daily subsistence allowance is what most people ask for ..



Good Luck !

Phillip









[quote]Hi guys,



I've been poached by HQfor a 5+ month secondment in Zurich and am about to start negotiations..



Have never been on secondment, and have no idea how different life/cost of living etc..is from OZ or the UK.. any tips from anyone who's gone through similar? So farI knowthey will provide accommodation, but not sure on what else todemand(!).. as I dont knowhow longI will be in ZurichI need to make sure I'm coving all my basis.



Cheers,



Billie[/quote]
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Hi Billie,



There are bunch of defined tax breaks in Zurich for workers considered to be 'temporary foreign specialists'.



The question is whether you will get an equivalent gross salary, in which case its worth making sure that those tax breaks are applied, as its you that will be better off, or whether your company will ensure you get the same net salary in which case lower taxes (for example) will be to their benefit rather than yours.



social charges should remain payable in your home country.



A daily subsistence allowance is what most people ask for ..



Good Luck !

Phillip









[quote]Hi guys,



I've been poached by HQfor a 5+ month secondment in Zurich and am about to start negotiations..



Have never been on secondment, and have no idea how different life/cost of living etc..is from OZ or the UK.. any tips from anyone who's gone through similar? So farI knowthey will provide accommodation, but not sure on what else todemand(!).. as I dont knowhow longI will be in ZurichI need to make sure I'm coving all my basis.



Cheers,



Billie[/quote]
wilycoyote, Aug 19, 2008 @ 13:44
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Hi Oded,

Well, for the first 5 or so months I will be considered as being on an extensed business trip, so will continue to get my salary in the UK and just have accomodation paid for.. if its ends up longer than 6 months then I will need to start worrying about tax in Zurich. Its maternity cover, but no-ones sure how long exactly my colleague will take off; she's not sure either, wants to see how she feels after the baby is born..

cheers,

B

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Hi Oded,

Well, for the first 5 or so months I will be considered as being on an extensed business trip, so will continue to get my salary in the UK and just have accomodation paid for.. if its ends up longer than 6 months then I will need to start worrying about tax in Zurich. Its maternity cover, but no-ones sure how long exactly my colleague will take off; she's not sure either, wants to see how she feels after the baby is born..

cheers,

B
Sparkles, Aug 19, 2008 @ 14:11

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Hi Phillip,

As its seen as a long business trip, I will just get my regular UK salary, not sure if it will be paid in London or in Zurich - relatively though, my UK salary is just over a 1/3 of that of the person I am covering (helps that she's a friend!) although its pretty much the same job, so a generous allowance would be nice! Have no idea what amount would be considered acceptable though.. dont want to cut myself short - and have huge mortgage back home, so would be nice to get a little extra.. might not be possible though :o(

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Hi Phillip,

As its seen as a long business trip, I will just get my regular UK salary, not sure if it will be paid in London or in Zurich - relatively though, my UK salary is just over a 1/3 of that of the person I am covering (helps that she's a friend!) although its pretty much the same job, so a generous allowance would be nice! Have no idea what amount would be considered acceptable though.. dont want to cut myself short - and have huge mortgage back home, so would be nice to get a little extra.. might not be possible though :o(

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Sparkles, Aug 19, 2008 @ 14:17

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Well if you try asking for a decent % of your friends salary youll find that translates very nicely into sterling at the moment :-)

And a daily subsistance allowance doesnt sound like much, but when its tax free and you multiply it by 21 working days ..

By the way an employer has the responsibility to pay withholding tax in CH for anyone here for more than 30 days ..

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Well if you try asking for a decent % of your friends salary youll find that translates very nicely into sterling at the moment :-)

And a daily subsistance allowance doesnt sound like much, but when its tax free and you multiply it by 21 working days ..

By the way an employer has the responsibility to pay withholding tax in CH for anyone here for more than 30 days ..

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wilycoyote, Aug 19, 2008 @ 16:55

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Hi Sparkles



I have lived in both, Zurich and GEneva and as far I can tell, the taxes are quite cheaper there. It should not be a problem to transfer you permit to Zurich. It is very quickly done at every "Kreisbüro". They will take you witha kiss, as you are a net tax payer.

The other option is to declare your new place as a weekly stay and continue to get taxed in GVA. You can then do some tax reductino applying trip and flat rent expenses. Ask a tax specialist.



Otherwise the costs of living are pretty much the same, you will get more for you money for a flat though.



If you need tips for the evening, oet me know.



Andrej
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Hi Sparkles



I have lived in both, Zurich and GEneva and as far I can tell, the taxes are quite cheaper there. It should not be a problem to transfer you permit to Zurich. It is very quickly done at every "Kreisbüro". They will take you witha kiss, as you are a net tax payer.

The other option is to declare your new place as a weekly stay and continue to get taxed in GVA. You can then do some tax reductino applying trip and flat rent expenses. Ask a tax specialist.



Otherwise the costs of living are pretty much the same, you will get more for you money for a flat though.



If you need tips for the evening, oet me know.



Andrej
and70, Aug 26, 2008 @ 23:53
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