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Tree of Death (by Pretentious boredom?) or did I just not get it???

So I went to see the Tree of Life last week and found myself just falling asleep in the middle of it, waking up, watching a couple of minutes and then blissfully nodding off again.


I'm completely open to the fact that maybe I just didn't get it, or maybe I was not in the right mood for it, or maybe I really was tired.


But I can't help also wondering, Cannes prize winner or not, maybe it's just...pretentious crap?


I'd love to hear some other opinions


Thanks,


Josh


 

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So I went to see the Tree of Life last week and found myself just falling asleep in the middle of it, waking up, watching a couple of minutes and then blissfully nodding off again.


I'm completely open to the fact that maybe I just didn't get it, or maybe I was not in the right mood for it, or maybe I really was tired.


But I can't help also wondering, Cannes prize winner or not, maybe it's just...pretentious crap?


I'd love to hear some other opinions


Thanks,


Josh


 


josh.hMay 23, 11 14:24
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Has any decent film been Cannes nominated ever...?

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Has any decent film been Cannes nominated ever...?


leo tincrowdor, May 23, 11 19:40
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Maybe the pretension was on purpose?!  I'd like to see it because of this review:


"Tree of Life:" Beautiful, Strange and Shallow


The Maddening Return of Terrence Malick


By WAJAHAT ALI


The Tree of Life is maddening, exhilarating, gorgeous, ponderous, insightful, pretentious, epic, shallow, beautiful, and strange -- essentially the apotheosis of Terrence Malick's entire career. It will divide audiences like few films have in recent years.


The movie, which exists as a metaphysical meditation and a lyrical poem, focuses - at a microcosmic level - on the story of Jack, a jaded, middle aged man (played by Sean Penn) scarred by the memories of his stern upbringing by his father (Brad Pitt), as well as the untimely death of his younger brother.


Like all Malick movies, however, the plot is simply window dressing for the grand philosophical questions the director has been chasing for nearly four decades: the struggle between nature and grace, the duality of man, the meaning of life, and a sense of understanding and reconciliation amidst the chaos and suffering of it all.


While the film makes several missteps and is saddled with an inelegant conclusion, the sheer audacity and vision of a director willing to tackle these weighty metaphysical questions in such an unconventional, non-mainstream manner must be applauded.


http://www.counterpunch.org/waj05172011.html


What do you think of the review?  Accurate or not?

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Maybe the pretension was on purpose?!  I'd like to see it because of this review:


"Tree of Life:" Beautiful, Strange and Shallow


The Maddening Return of Terrence Malick


By WAJAHAT ALI


The Tree of Life is maddening, exhilarating, gorgeous, ponderous, insightful, pretentious, epic, shallow, beautiful, and strange -- essentially the apotheosis of Terrence Malick's entire career. It will divide audiences like few films have in recent years.


The movie, which exists as a metaphysical meditation and a lyrical poem, focuses - at a microcosmic level - on the story of Jack, a jaded, middle aged man (played by Sean Penn) scarred by the memories of his stern upbringing by his father (Brad Pitt), as well as the untimely death of his younger brother.


Like all Malick movies, however, the plot is simply window dressing for the grand philosophical questions the director has been chasing for nearly four decades: the struggle between nature and grace, the duality of man, the meaning of life, and a sense of understanding and reconciliation amidst the chaos and suffering of it all.


While the film makes several missteps and is saddled with an inelegant conclusion, the sheer audacity and vision of a director willing to tackle these weighty metaphysical questions in such an unconventional, non-mainstream manner must be applauded.


http://www.counterpunch.org/waj05172011.html


What do you think of the review?  Accurate or not?


Marksist, May 25, 11 17:14
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We went with the cinema group to see it at the Astor Lounge and I just felt it was too much! I mean I don't know, how do you depict metaphysical questions in a film for heaven's sake? Endless sequences of volcanos erupting, waves battling, embryos growing. No linear storytelling (which is not by itself a problem) but the stream of consciousness just confused me. I wasn't sure what to make of the film. I guess all I concluded was that initially the mother and Jack are angry with God for having taken their son/brother away and can't come to terms with it. Somehow, along the way they find meaning in his death (this is the part I couldn't get) and accept it. At least that's what I took from the end...

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We went with the cinema group to see it at the Astor Lounge and I just felt it was too much! I mean I don't know, how do you depict metaphysical questions in a film for heaven's sake? Endless sequences of volcanos erupting, waves battling, embryos growing. No linear storytelling (which is not by itself a problem) but the stream of consciousness just confused me. I wasn't sure what to make of the film. I guess all I concluded was that initially the mother and Jack are angry with God for having taken their son/brother away and can't come to terms with it. Somehow, along the way they find meaning in his death (this is the part I couldn't get) and accept it. At least that's what I took from the end...


amna a, May 25, 11 18:21
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By the way I loved his earlier film The New World. That was beautiful.

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By the way I loved his earlier film The New World. That was beautiful.


amna a, May 25, 11 18:27
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I left as soon as I had finished my popcorn......Brad and Sean.....what on earth were you thiniking?

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I left as soon as I had finished my popcorn......Brad and Sean.....what on earth were you thiniking?


clare m, May 26, 11 10:53
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Hi all,


i agree film was awfull indeed!!!


Quick question. 


How do I post a new forum?? I just cant figure it out????


Thanks in advance.


Dave

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Hi all,


i agree film was awfull indeed!!!


Quick question. 


How do I post a new forum?? I just cant figure it out????


Thanks in advance.


Dave


David Smith, May 26, 11 11:18
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Do you mean you want to start a new forum or a new thread? I think you would have to clear a new forum with the admins first. As for posting new threads there is already a thread about this: go to 'News from the Site Admin> Can't Post in the Forums?'

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Do you mean you want to start a new forum or a new thread? I think you would have to clear a new forum with the admins first. As for posting new threads there is already a thread about this: go to 'News from the Site Admin> Can't Post in the Forums?'


amna a, May 26, 11 11:22
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Hi all,

i agree film was awfull indeed!!!

Quick question. 

How do I post a new forum?? I just cant figure it out????

Thanks in advance.

Dave


May 26, 11 11:18

1) Click on Forums.
2)
Click on the particular forum (like Geneva, General..et al) that your topic belongs.
3) Click on Post New Thread (green button)
4) Fill up the form that appears and say - Voila.


Now that everyone truly hates this film, I've made up my mind to watch it. Foot in mouth

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1) Click on Forums.
2)
Click on the particular forum (like Geneva, General..et al) that your topic belongs.
3) Click on Post New Thread (green button)
4) Fill up the form that appears and say - Voila.


Now that everyone truly hates this film, I've made up my mind to watch it. Foot in mouth


Arun K V, May 26, 11 11:24
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Beautifully boring...way too self indulgent - Malick at his best. The jury was clearly smoking something.


 


 

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Beautifully boring...way too self indulgent - Malick at his best. The jury was clearly smoking something.


 


 


Ravi P, May 30, 11 16:07
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Has any decent film been Cannes nominated ever...?


May 23, 11 19:40

Yes, they have, I can recall a couple of them.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1149362/


The white ribbon, A very disturbing movie that tries to explain the rise of nazism through daily life in a village of norther Germany prior to WWI.  Absolutely briliant in my opinion!!


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1032846/


4 months, three weeks and 2 days.  A Romanian movie made with a very small budget about illegal abortion.  Probably the best movie ever made around this tragic subject

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Yes, they have, I can recall a couple of them.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1149362/


The white ribbon, A very disturbing movie that tries to explain the rise of nazism through daily life in a village of norther Germany prior to WWI.  Absolutely briliant in my opinion!!


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1032846/


4 months, three weeks and 2 days.  A Romanian movie made with a very small budget about illegal abortion.  Probably the best movie ever made around this tragic subject


Nefertiti, May 30, 11 16:44
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Maybe the pretension was on purpose?!  I'd like to see it because of this review:

"Tree of Life:" Beautiful, Strange and Shallow

The Maddening Return of Terrence Malick

By WAJAHAT ALI

The Tree of Life is maddening, exhilarating, gorgeous, ponderous, insightful, pretentious, epic, shallow, beautiful, and strange -- essentially the apotheosis of Terrence Malick's entire career. It will divide audiences like few films have in recent years.

The movie, which exists as a metaphysical meditation and a lyrical poem, focuses - at a microcosmic level - on the story of Jack, a jaded, middle aged man (played by Sean Penn) scarred by the memories of his stern upbringing by his father (Brad Pitt), as well as the untimely death of his younger brother.

Like all Malick movies, however, the plot is simply window dressing for the grand philosophical questions the director has been chasing for nearly four decades: the struggle between nature and grace, the duality of man, the meaning of life, and a sense of understanding and reconciliation amidst the chaos and suffering of it all.

While the film makes several missteps and is saddled with an inelegant conclusion, the sheer audacity and vision of a director willing to tackle these weighty metaphysical questions in such an unconventional, non-mainstream manner must be applauded.

http://www.counterpunch.org/waj05172011.html

What do you think of the review?  Accurate or not?


May 25, 11 17:14

Well Markshis, I have not seen the movie yet but certainly this review from counterpunch.org has certainly arousen my curiosity!!

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Well Markshis, I have not seen the movie yet but certainly this review from counterpunch.org has certainly arousen my curiosity!!


Nefertiti, May 30, 11 16:52
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1) Click on Forums.
2)
Click on the particular forum (like Geneva, General..et al) that your topic belongs.
3) Click on Post New Thread (green button)
4) Fill up the form that appears and say - Voila.

Now that everyone truly hates this film, I've made up my mind to watch it. Foot in mouth


May 26, 11 11:24

Let me know if you want company when you go see it. I'm curious about it as well. 

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Let me know if you want company when you go see it. I'm curious about it as well. 


Ariel R, May 30, 11 17:05
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